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{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}
 
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}
 
<!-- ''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.'' -->
 
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The incredibly light armor present on the Pbv 302 BILL can be considered almost non-existant and is incredibly vulnerable to basically anything on the battlefield except for 7.62mm machine guns. However, due to the almost empty rear section, in can survive shots to the rear, with some luck.
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The frontal hull armour of the tank is piked and has an additional plate on top of it, effectively giving some protection against bad 23 mm ammunition (like some of the SPAA and medium tanks still use) and 12.7 mm ammunition. Any random spray of such weapons that is not directed to the very top of the roof (where the plate ends) will do no real damage, as even LFP hits tend to get stuck in the transmission. The 30 mm will likely penetrate unless the tank is also angled up. When the tank is swimming, frontal plate swings out, allowing the 23 mm to penetrate the hull.
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The sides and the back of the hull are rather strange and have unexpected levels of protection across the board for no explainable reason. Overall, they are somewhat weak and will only stop 12.7 mm ammunition when angled, deflecting poor 23 mm ammunition as well.
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The turret overall has poor armour. It has a shield for the gunner on the very front, but the optics can be penetrated by 12.7 mm when looking directly at the enemy, so knowledgeable opponent can always do something to stop the Pbv302. Not only that, but the cupolas on the roof are even more vulnerable and allow to take out everyone but the loader with just the HMG if opponent knows about these weaknesses. The very back has some empty space, so sometimes shots directed there will do nothing, but it's not a good idea to count on it against anyone but Soviets, since the armour can detonate sensitive APHE and can be overpressured easily at the same time.
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The roof is overall very weak and should not be relied upon against any kind of airstrike. The launcher is also located very high and can be hit with chemical ammunition to overpressure the tank beneath it or hit with extremely powerful kinetic shells (like APFSDS) to detonate it.
  
 
'''Armour type:''' <!-- The types of armour present on the vehicle and their general locations -->
 
'''Armour type:''' <!-- The types of armour present on the vehicle and their general locations -->
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! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 
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|-
| Hull || 25 mm || 5 mm ''Top'' <br> 14 mm ''Bottom'' || 15 mm || 5-12 mm
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| Hull || 20 (44°) + 5 (43°) mm ''Front glacis'' <br> 20 mm (36-38°) ''Lower glacis'' || 5 mm ''Top'' <br> 10 + 4 mm ''Bottom'' || 15 mm (5°) || 5-12 mm
 
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| Turret || 15-25 mm ''Turret front'' <br> 20 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 15 mm || 15 mm || 12 mm
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| Turret || 15-25 mm (14-48°) ''Turret front'' <br> 20 mm (8-18°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 15 mm (5°) || 15 mm (5°) || 12 mm
 
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| Cupola || 12 mm || 12 mm || 12 mm || 12 mm
 
| Cupola || 12 mm || 12 mm || 12 mm || 12 mm
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'''Notes:''' <!-- Any additional notes which the user needs to be aware of -->
 
'''Notes:''' <!-- Any additional notes which the user needs to be aware of -->
 
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* Belly armour is 10 mm thick.
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
 
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}
 
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}
 
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{{tankMobility}}
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{{tankMobility|abMinHp=384|rbMinHp=239}}
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Pbv 302 is rather slow and clumsy for its rank and BR, being much slower than most medium tanks, but it sometimes compensates it with ability to swim.
  
 
=== Modifications and economy ===
 
=== Modifications and economy ===
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{{main|Akan m/47D (20 mm)}}
 
{{main|Akan m/47D (20 mm)}}
  
''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.''
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The regular gun installed in the turret is very weak and is below weakest SPAA of the BR in terms of efficiency. This is mostly because the ammunition used in the gun is extremely poor and even after research the tank can only use HVAP instead of APDS, which means that it's efficiency against angled armour is effectively 0. The gun also cannot aim to the right because of the cupolas, so tank must keep enemy light vehicles on its left to fight them.
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The gun is also not very good against aircraft due to a limited maximum elevation of 36°, but this can be compensated by standing on a hill, which is what Pbv 302 will often do to use its real primary weapon - the ATGM.
  
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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|-
 
|-
 
! ''Arcade''
 
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 540 (30) || rowspan="2" | 480 || rowspan="2" | -7°/+36° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__
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| rowspan="2" | 540 (30) || rowspan="2" | 480 || rowspan="2" | -7°/+36° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | - || 26.4 || 36.5 || 44.4 || 49.1 || 52.2 || rowspan="2" | 6.50 || rowspan="2" | 5.75 || rowspan="2" | 5.30 || rowspan="2" | 5.00
 
|-
 
|-
 
! ''Realistic''
 
! ''Realistic''
| __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
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| 17.9 || 21.0 || 25.5 || 28.2 || 30.0
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
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* '''slpprj m/68:''' {{Annotation|HVAP-T|High-velocity armour-piercing tracer}}
 
* '''slpprj m/68:''' {{Annotation|HVAP-T|High-velocity armour-piercing tracer}}
  
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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{{:Akan m/47D (20 mm)/Ammunition|HEFI-T, AP-T, HVAP-T}}
! colspan="7" | Penetration statistics
 
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Belt
 
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
 
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! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
 
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| Default || 37 || 35 || 26 || 18 || 13 || 9
 
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| slsgr m/71 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3
 
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| slpprj m/68 || 48 || 45 || 33 || 23 || 16 || 11
 
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|}
 
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
! colspan="10" | Belt details
 
|-
 
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Belt
 
! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
 
! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
 
! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>mass (kg)
 
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
 
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
 
! rowspan="2" | Explosive mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
 
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
 
|-
 
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
 
|-
 
| slsgr m/71 || HEFI-T || 855 || 0.12 || 0 || 0.1 || 39 || 79° || 80° || 81°
 
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| slpprj m/68 || HVAP-T || 885 || 0.13 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 66° || 70° || 72°
 
|-
 
|}
 
  
 
==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
 
==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
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{{main|Rbs 56}}
 
{{main|Rbs 56}}
  
''Some tanks are armed with several guns in one or more turrets. Evaluate the additional weaponry and give advice on its use. Describe the ammunition available for additional weaponry. Give advice on about how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage. If there is no additional weaponry remove this subsection.''
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The pole on the top of the turret is housing the ATGM and guiding mechanism for it. While it can guide the missiles by default in third person view, to properly use it player must press "Select special weapon or ATGM" hotkey or multi-function menu key. This will move the sniper scope to the ATGM, but also disable turret controls. The pole can turn 30 degrees to the sides of the turret. Since the turret cannot be moved in this aiming mode, sudden corrections would have to be made with the hull, which might affect the missile trajectory in bad ways. To regain controls of everything, use of "reset weapon selection" is recommended over any other option.
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[[File:Pbv 302 bill overhill shot example.jpg|thumb|right|The launcher can still guide missiles and hit targets even when not entirely exposed. This works in RB.]]
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The main reason to fear the PBV 302 are the RB 56 BILL II missiles. These missiles have top-down attack style, meaning they need to be guided above enemy tank. When operator aims crosshairs onto something, the missile will automatically offset itself by 5 degrees to move above theoretical enemy tank roof. The missile explodes downward almost immediately if it flies above anything "tank-like", even if it is a dead tank or allies. This means, that the missile can be aimed directly at the tank that is behind an obstacle or a hill as well, since the missile will fly above it. It is necessary to guide the missile as close towards theoretical enemy tank weak spots as possible as the explosion is rather precise.
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The BILL missiles have extremely high penetration when compared to TOW-2B of other nations, meaning that even in the case of a bad hit they often deal enough damage to make the target afraid, but they have virtually zero penetration power when hitting enemy head-on (in case they hit enemy turret the missile explodes into hull, but when it hits the hull it does nothing at all) and mostly deal no overpressure damage when hitting the bottom of enemy tanks.
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The actual damage of missiles is very dependent on the height of explosion and enemy ammo rack placement. The lower the missile explodes, the closer the explosion will be to the turret front, the higher the missile explodes, the higher the chance of hitting the mandatory back ammo racks directly and overpenetrating the entire tank all the way to the floor (overpressuring light tanks or hitting most of the turret crew and even more ammo racks in process). Ammo rack hits are nearly always fatal, but module damage can be easily sustained. When attacking most tanks from the front, the best case scenario is to detonate the missiles as high as possible before BILL outstanding penetration power starts to fail.
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Efficiency of the missiles against long tanks with the turret on the very back is questionable at best, so it is better to attack them from the side or when they angle up on a hill. ERA covered tanks take very light damage from BILL most of the time, but it is still possible to push HEAT jet into the turret and destroy them, although this might take up to 14 missiles from two Pbv 302 at once if they also have NERA. NERA tanks with inert ammo racks can also survive a hit into turret and attack should be aimed into middle of the tank, just past NERA screens (by intentionally lowering the missile)
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The reload for ATGM takes around 14 seconds as long as the loader is alive, but may take twice as long if he isn't. Rearm on a capture point takes about 6 seconds per missile, allowing to quickly grab more missiles and run. In AB mode, rearm upon emptying the entire ammo rack outside capture point takes 40 seconds, which is also very fast.
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The missile has some downsides. The missiles have a dead zone of 10 m, so they can't really be used at ramming range (which is still better than TOW-2B dead zone range), and will detonate above allies and dead tanks that aren't literally infront of the Pbv 302. The fuse also does not react to aircraft, unlike with other top-down missiles, and missile has a rather short maximum range, so BILL cannot be used as a makeshift SAM, unless enemy helicopter is being extremely stubborn and flies straight, so it can be hit directly.
  
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Rbs 56]] missile || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
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! colspan="4" | [[Rbs 56]] missile || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
 
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|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
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! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
 
 
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
 
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
 
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|-
! ''Arcade''
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| 7 || -12°/+30° || - || - || 13.00 || 11.50 || 10.60 || 10.00
| rowspan="2" | 7 || rowspan="2" | ±10° || rowspan="2" | ±120° || rowspan="2" | N/A || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__
 
|-
 
! ''Realistic''
 
| __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
  
 
==== Ammunition ====
 
==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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{{:Rbs 56/Ammunition|RB 56 BILL II}}
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
 
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 
! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
 
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
 
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! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
 
|-
 
| RB 56 BILL II || ATGM&nbsp;(OTA) || 510 || 510 || 510 || 510 || 510 || 510
 
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|}
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
! colspan="13" | Proximity-fused shell details
 
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 
! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
 
! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
 
! rowspan="2" | Range<br>(m)
 
! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>mass (kg)
 
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
 
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
 
! rowspan="2" | Arming distance<br>(m)
 
! rowspan="2" | Trigger radius<br>(m)
 
! rowspan="2" | Explosive mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
 
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
 
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! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
 
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| RB 56 BILL II || ATGM&nbsp;(OTA) || 250 || 2,200 || 10.9 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 10 || 3 || 2080(2720) || 80° || 82° || 90°
 
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|}
 
  
 
==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
 
==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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Despite its real-life role as an infantry fighting vehicle, the {{PAGENAME}} plays more like other ATGM carriers in the game. Its mobility isn't terrible but mostly inadequate for large flanking manoeuvres, and its autocannon and missile react too slowly for close encounters with other tanks. As such, the {{PAGENAME}} fares best in long-range sniper battles. Use its reasonable mobility to quickly get to a good hull-down position and make sure only the launcher is exposed, then switch to the "special weapon or ATGM" (using a keybind or the multi-function menu) which will allow guiding the missile from the launcher's point of view. Unfortunately, the post-penetration damage of the ATGM usually won't destroy the enemy in one shot, but light tanks and some medium tanks can be overpressured by hitting them on the roof with the missile. Don't forget to use the autocannon as well; it can be used to take out lightly armoured vehicles and helicopters in order to conserve precious missiles.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
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*Early access to top-down ATGM - can easily obliterate any camping tank with only the [[CM-25]] being the real competition
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*High compatability with wide variety of cover at any range
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*Can also guide ATGM with its launcher in third person view - something other IFV-like tanks cannot do at all
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*While not quite as unkillable as some other ATGM tanks at the rank, it can take some hits and is not open-topped
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*ECCM on ATGM (Cannot be jammed)
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*Can swim
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
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*Direct ATGM control can be quite awkward due to the turret no longer working when using it
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*The tank doesn't work like an IFV
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**Terrible ammo for autocannon, will not even make a dent in most light tanks armour, even SPAA might survive full belt
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**Disappointing mobility for rank VI
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**Extreme performance drop if hit in the hull
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*Difficult, but not impossible to destroy with kinetic shells when only exposing the launcher, as APFSDS can detonate it; Draws a lot of attention when attacks with ATGM
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*No thermal sight, some late tanks can spot it and move around it before it notices (irrelevant in AB)
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*Fights against tanks with ERA on the roof can be extremely difficult
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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== Media ==
 
== Media ==
 
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;Skins
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* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=sw_pbv_302_bill Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
  
 
== See also ==
 
== See also ==
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* ''topic on the official game forum;''
 
* ''topic on the official game forum;''
 
* ''other literature.'' -->
 
* ''other literature.'' -->
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
 
  
* ''topic on the official game forum;''
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* [[wt:en/news/7818-development-pbv-302-bill-scandinavian-frugality-en|[Devblog] Pbv 302 BILL: Scandinavian Frugality]]
* ''other literature.''
 
  
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{{TankManufacturer Hagglund}}
 
{{Sweden tank destroyers}}
 
{{Sweden tank destroyers}}

Latest revision as of 11:47, 14 March 2024

Pbv 302 (BILL)
sw_pbv_302_bill.png
GarageImage Pbv 302 (BILL).jpg
Pbv 302 (BILL)
Research:81 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:450 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png

Description

The Pansarbandvagn 302 BILL is a rank VI Swedish tank destroyer with a battle rating of 8.7 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Drone Age".

General info

Survivability and armour

Smoke grenades
Creation of a smoke screen in front of the vehicle
Armourfront / side / back
Hull25 / 10 / 5
Turret0 / 0 / 0
Crew4 people
Visibility112 %

The frontal hull armour of the tank is piked and has an additional plate on top of it, effectively giving some protection against bad 23 mm ammunition (like some of the SPAA and medium tanks still use) and 12.7 mm ammunition. Any random spray of such weapons that is not directed to the very top of the roof (where the plate ends) will do no real damage, as even LFP hits tend to get stuck in the transmission. The 30 mm will likely penetrate unless the tank is also angled up. When the tank is swimming, frontal plate swings out, allowing the 23 mm to penetrate the hull.

The sides and the back of the hull are rather strange and have unexpected levels of protection across the board for no explainable reason. Overall, they are somewhat weak and will only stop 12.7 mm ammunition when angled, deflecting poor 23 mm ammunition as well.

The turret overall has poor armour. It has a shield for the gunner on the very front, but the optics can be penetrated by 12.7 mm when looking directly at the enemy, so knowledgeable opponent can always do something to stop the Pbv302. Not only that, but the cupolas on the roof are even more vulnerable and allow to take out everyone but the loader with just the HMG if opponent knows about these weaknesses. The very back has some empty space, so sometimes shots directed there will do nothing, but it's not a good idea to count on it against anyone but Soviets, since the armour can detonate sensitive APHE and can be overpressured easily at the same time.

The roof is overall very weak and should not be relied upon against any kind of airstrike. The launcher is also located very high and can be hit with chemical ammunition to overpressure the tank beneath it or hit with extremely powerful kinetic shells (like APFSDS) to detonate it.

Armour type:

Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 20 (44°) + 5 (43°) mm Front glacis
20 mm (36-38°) Lower glacis
5 mm Top
10 + 4 mm Bottom
15 mm (5°) 5-12 mm
Turret 15-25 mm (14-48°) Turret front
20 mm (8-18°) Gun mantlet
15 mm (5°) 15 mm (5°) 12 mm
Cupola 12 mm 12 mm 12 mm 12 mm

Notes:

  • Belly armour is 10 mm thick.

Mobility

Amphibious
The design allows you to swim and control movement in the water
Speedforward / back
AB72 / 13 km/h
RB and SB66 / 12 km/h
Number of gears8 forward
2 back
Weight14.0 t
Engine power
AB515 hp
RB and SB270 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB36.8 hp/t
RB and SB19.3 hp/t
Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 72 13 14 384 515 27.43 36.79
Realistic 66 12 239 270 17.07 19.29

Pbv 302 is rather slow and clumsy for its rank and BR, being much slower than most medium tanks, but it sometimes compensates it with ability to swim.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB4 523 → 5 870 Sl icon.png
RB5 179 → 6 722 Sl icon.png
SB5 486 → 7 120 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications131 900 Rp icon.png
223 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 400 Ge icon.png
Crew training130 000 Sl icon.png
Experts450 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 000 Ge icon.png
Research Aces890 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
160 / 210 / 250 % Sl icon.png
214 / 214 / 214 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
Mods new tank traks.png
Tracks
Research:
7 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank suspension.png
Suspension
Research:
6 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
10 000 Sl icon.png
250 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank break.png
Brake System
Research:
6 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
10 000 Sl icon.png
250 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank filter.png
Filters
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
470 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank transmission.png
Transmission
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
24 000 Sl icon.png
590 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank engine.png
Engine
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
24 000 Sl icon.png
590 Ge icon.png
Mods tank tool kit.png
Improved Parts
Research:
2 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
Mods extinguisher.png
Improved FPE
Research:
1 900 Rp icon.png
Cost:
10 000 Sl icon.png
250 Ge icon.png
Mods tank reinforcement sw.png
Crew Replenishment
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
470 Ge icon.png
Mods smoke screen.png
Smoke grenade
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
24 000 Sl icon.png
590 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank horizontal aiming.png
Horizontal Drive
Research:
7 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
20mm_sw_kan_HE_ammo_pack
Research:
7 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
Mods tank cannon.png
Adjustment of Fire
Research:
6 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
10 000 Sl icon.png
250 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
20mm_sw_kan_AP_ammo_pack
Research:
6 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
10 000 Sl icon.png
250 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank vertical aiming.png
Elevation Mechanism
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
470 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Main armament

20 mm Akan m/47D cannon
Ammunition540 rounds
Belt capacity30 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
6.5 → 5.0 s
Fire rate480 shots/min
Vertical guidance-10° / 36°
Main article: Akan m/47D (20 mm)

The regular gun installed in the turret is very weak and is below weakest SPAA of the BR in terms of efficiency. This is mostly because the ammunition used in the gun is extremely poor and even after research the tank can only use HVAP instead of APDS, which means that it's efficiency against angled armour is effectively 0. The gun also cannot aim to the right because of the cupolas, so tank must keep enemy light vehicles on its left to fight them.

The gun is also not very good against aircraft due to a limited maximum elevation of 36°, but this can be compensated by standing on a hill, which is what Pbv 302 will often do to use its real primary weapon - the ATGM.

20 mm Akan m/47D Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 540 (30) 480 -7°/+36° ±180° - 26.4 36.5 44.4 49.1 52.2 6.50 5.75 5.30 5.00
Realistic 17.9 21.0 25.5 28.2 30.0

Ammunition

  • Default: AP-T · HEFI-T · HEFI-T
  • slsgr m/71: HEFI-T
  • slpprj m/68: HVAP-T

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
HEFI-T 4 4 3 3 3 3
AP-T 37 35 26 18 13 9
HVAP-T 48 45 33 23 16 11
Shell details
Ammunition Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
HEFI-T 855 0.12 0.1 0.1 39 79° 80° 81°
AP-T 830 0.14 - - - 47° 60° 65°
HVAP-T 885 0.13 - - - 66° 70° 72°

Ammo racks

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Additional armament

Rbs 56 ATGM
Ammunition7 rounds
Belt capacity1 rounds
Fire rate7 shots/min
Vertical guidance-12° / 30°
Horizontal guidance-30° / 30°
Fire on the moveup to 5 km/h
Main article: Rbs 56

The pole on the top of the turret is housing the ATGM and guiding mechanism for it. While it can guide the missiles by default in third person view, to properly use it player must press "Select special weapon or ATGM" hotkey or multi-function menu key. This will move the sniper scope to the ATGM, but also disable turret controls. The pole can turn 30 degrees to the sides of the turret. Since the turret cannot be moved in this aiming mode, sudden corrections would have to be made with the hull, which might affect the missile trajectory in bad ways. To regain controls of everything, use of "reset weapon selection" is recommended over any other option.

The launcher can still guide missiles and hit targets even when not entirely exposed. This works in RB.

The main reason to fear the PBV 302 are the RB 56 BILL II missiles. These missiles have top-down attack style, meaning they need to be guided above enemy tank. When operator aims crosshairs onto something, the missile will automatically offset itself by 5 degrees to move above theoretical enemy tank roof. The missile explodes downward almost immediately if it flies above anything "tank-like", even if it is a dead tank or allies. This means, that the missile can be aimed directly at the tank that is behind an obstacle or a hill as well, since the missile will fly above it. It is necessary to guide the missile as close towards theoretical enemy tank weak spots as possible as the explosion is rather precise.

The BILL missiles have extremely high penetration when compared to TOW-2B of other nations, meaning that even in the case of a bad hit they often deal enough damage to make the target afraid, but they have virtually zero penetration power when hitting enemy head-on (in case they hit enemy turret the missile explodes into hull, but when it hits the hull it does nothing at all) and mostly deal no overpressure damage when hitting the bottom of enemy tanks.

The actual damage of missiles is very dependent on the height of explosion and enemy ammo rack placement. The lower the missile explodes, the closer the explosion will be to the turret front, the higher the missile explodes, the higher the chance of hitting the mandatory back ammo racks directly and overpenetrating the entire tank all the way to the floor (overpressuring light tanks or hitting most of the turret crew and even more ammo racks in process). Ammo rack hits are nearly always fatal, but module damage can be easily sustained. When attacking most tanks from the front, the best case scenario is to detonate the missiles as high as possible before BILL outstanding penetration power starts to fail.

Efficiency of the missiles against long tanks with the turret on the very back is questionable at best, so it is better to attack them from the side or when they angle up on a hill. ERA covered tanks take very light damage from BILL most of the time, but it is still possible to push HEAT jet into the turret and destroy them, although this might take up to 14 missiles from two Pbv 302 at once if they also have NERA. NERA tanks with inert ammo racks can also survive a hit into turret and attack should be aimed into middle of the tank, just past NERA screens (by intentionally lowering the missile)

The reload for ATGM takes around 14 seconds as long as the loader is alive, but may take twice as long if he isn't. Rearm on a capture point takes about 6 seconds per missile, allowing to quickly grab more missiles and run. In AB mode, rearm upon emptying the entire ammo rack outside capture point takes 40 seconds, which is also very fast.

The missile has some downsides. The missiles have a dead zone of 10 m, so they can't really be used at ramming range (which is still better than TOW-2B dead zone range), and will detonate above allies and dead tanks that aren't literally infront of the Pbv 302. The fuse also does not react to aircraft, unlike with other top-down missiles, and missile has a rather short maximum range, so BILL cannot be used as a makeshift SAM, unless enemy helicopter is being extremely stubborn and flies straight, so it can be hit directly.

Rbs 56 missile Reloading rate (seconds)
Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Full Expert Aced
7 -12°/+30° - - 13.00 11.50 10.60 10.00

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
RB 56 BILL II ATGM (OTA) 510 510 510 510 510 510
Missile details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Range
(m)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Arming
distance (m)
Trigger
radius (m)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (kg)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
RB 56 BILL II ATGM (OTA) 250 2,200 10.9 0.05 0.1 10 3 2.72 80° 82° 90°

Ammo racks

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Usage in battles

Despite its real-life role as an infantry fighting vehicle, the Pbv 302 (BILL) plays more like other ATGM carriers in the game. Its mobility isn't terrible but mostly inadequate for large flanking manoeuvres, and its autocannon and missile react too slowly for close encounters with other tanks. As such, the Pbv 302 (BILL) fares best in long-range sniper battles. Use its reasonable mobility to quickly get to a good hull-down position and make sure only the launcher is exposed, then switch to the "special weapon or ATGM" (using a keybind or the multi-function menu) which will allow guiding the missile from the launcher's point of view. Unfortunately, the post-penetration damage of the ATGM usually won't destroy the enemy in one shot, but light tanks and some medium tanks can be overpressured by hitting them on the roof with the missile. Don't forget to use the autocannon as well; it can be used to take out lightly armoured vehicles and helicopters in order to conserve precious missiles.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Early access to top-down ATGM - can easily obliterate any camping tank with only the CM-25 being the real competition
  • High compatability with wide variety of cover at any range
  • Can also guide ATGM with its launcher in third person view - something other IFV-like tanks cannot do at all
  • While not quite as unkillable as some other ATGM tanks at the rank, it can take some hits and is not open-topped
  • ECCM on ATGM (Cannot be jammed)
  • Can swim

Cons:

  • Direct ATGM control can be quite awkward due to the turret no longer working when using it
  • The tank doesn't work like an IFV
    • Terrible ammo for autocannon, will not even make a dent in most light tanks armour, even SPAA might survive full belt
    • Disappointing mobility for rank VI
    • Extreme performance drop if hit in the hull
  • Difficult, but not impossible to destroy with kinetic shells when only exposing the launcher, as APFSDS can detonate it; Draws a lot of attention when attacks with ATGM
  • No thermal sight, some late tanks can spot it and move around it before it notices (irrelevant in AB)
  • Fights against tanks with ERA on the roof can be extremely difficult

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Media

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See also

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Hägglund & Söner
Light Tanks 
Ikv 91  Ikv 91 · Ikv 91-105
Tank Destroyers 
ATGM Carriers  UDES 33 · Pvrbv 551 · Pbv 302 (BILL)
SPAA 
Strv m/41  Pbv 301
SAM  Lvrbv 701
See Also  BAE Systems AB

Sweden tank destroyers
Strv m/41 derivatives  Spj fm/43-44 · Sav m/43 (1944) · Sav m/43 (1946) · Pvkv II · Pvkv III
Ikv 72/103  Ikv 72 · Ikv 103
Pvkv m/43  Pvkv m/43 (1946) · Pvkv m/43 (1963)
ATGM  UDES 33 · Pbv 302 (BILL) · Pvrbv 551
Other  SAV 20.12.48 · Bkan 1C
Norway  VIDAR