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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian dive bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].
  
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The {{PAGENAME}} is a slow bomber when flying but decently fast in a dive. It is fairly durable for its battle rating, being able to take a decent amount of 7.7 mm and 12.7 mm fire before being fully disabled, but this doesn't mean you should fly in a straight line. The Stuka has a very low stall speed and is very manoeuvrable at lower speeds giving it an edge in a dive bomb run or a turn fight. The offensive and defensive armaments are a bit underwhelming, but can still heavily damage enemy aircraft in close proximity. In a dive attack, deploy the air brakes to control the acceleration so you don't gain to much speed and slam into the ground.
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The Italian version of the [[Ju 87 R-2]] is quite similar to the German version, with some minor differences in terms of speed and flight performance. Additionally, the Italian version has different payload options as it carries different types of bombs. So it cannot carry the 1,000 kg bomb but it can carry some 50 kg bombs underneath the wings. It has 2 x 7.92 mm offensive machine guns and a single 7.92 mm machine gun in a dorsal turret operated by the gunner. Although this seems unimpressive, this armament is on par with most fighters at its rank and the rear MG, even with its blind spots, its decent enough to shake off some fighters.
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Its armament consists of two MG 17s mounted in the wings, very good for killing soft ground targets like armoured cars and AA, and has a good bomb load for destroying hard targets like tanks, pillboxes, ships and bases. Its defensive turret consists of two fast-firing MG 81s but they are not lethal enough to shoot down planes reliably.
 
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}
 
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}
 
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The Ju 87 R-2 isn't very manoeuvrable with bombs attached, but it can dance with a fighter in an emergency if it has the energy and has dropped the bombs.
  
 
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 
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! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
 
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
 
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! Optimal altitude
 
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* 4 mm steel underneath engine
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* 8 mm steel behind pilot
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* 4 mm steel tub surrounding pilot and gunner
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* 5 mm steel between pilot and gunner
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* 4 mm steel around gunner turret
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* 4 mm steel in front of gunner
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This bomber has better durability than most fighters of its rank, but subpar compared to similar bombers. The engine can be quite weak to oil and water leaks, so be sure to return to the base as soon as possible if your oil or water systems are hit.
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* 8 mm steel pilot's seat
 
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* 8 mm steel pilot's headrest
 
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* 4 self-sealing fuel tanks, 2 in each wing (wing root and mid-wing)
 
  
 
=== Modifications and economy ===
 
=== Modifications and economy ===
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
  
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* 2 x 7.92 mm MG 17 machine guns, wing-mounted (1,000 rpg = 2,000 total)
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* 2 x 7.92 mm MG 17 machine guns, wing-mounted (500 rpg = 1,000 total)
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With 2 MG 17 installed at the wing roots, the gunner can destroy soft ground targets (artillery position, AA vehicle or armoured car) or damage overshooting enemy aircraft. However, you can't inflict heavy damage to other aircraft as your calibre is too small but you can cripple them badly enough to abort mission and return to base. Engage below 500 m distance to make sure you reliably damage the targets you're going after. For information on the available belts, visit the MG page (link above).
 
  
 
=== Suspended armament ===
 
=== Suspended armament ===
 
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 
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{{main|GP 50 (50 kg)|GP 100 (100 kg)|GP 250 (250 kg)|GP 500 (500 kg)}}
 
  
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
  
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{{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
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* 1 x 250 kg GP 250 bomb (250 kg total)
 
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* 1 x 250 kg GP 250 bomb + 4 x 100 kg GP 100 bombs (650 kg total)
 
 
* 1 x 500 kg GP 500 bomb (500 kg total)
 
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* 1 x 500 kg GP 500 bomb + 4 x 100 kg GP 100 bombs (900 kg total)
 
  
 
=== Defensive armament ===
 
=== Defensive armament ===
 
{{Specs-Avia-Defensive}}
 
{{Specs-Avia-Defensive}}
 
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{{main|MG 81 (7.92 mm)}}
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{{main|MG 15 (7.92 mm)}}
  
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is defended by:
 
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* 2 x 7.92 mm MG 81 machine guns, dorsal turret (1,000 rpg = 2,000 total)
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* 1 x 7.92 mm MG 15 machine gun, dorsal turret (900 rpg)
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With a traverse angle of ±60° and an elevation angle of -15°/+70°, the rear gunner can effectively cover the {{PAGENAME}} from opponents attacking from behind. The fast-firing MG 81 machine guns are quickly depleted and they overheat after a few seconds of continuous fire so use them sparsely (burst-firing). The tail of the Junkers is massive and will provide cover for enemy aircraft when they're directly behind you, change your heading by a few degrees to prevent that. Unlike the TBF-1c or the B6N bombers, your gunner can't reach pursuing aircraft flying well under your plane's level. Fly close to the ground to avoid this situation. For information on the available belts, visit the MG page (link above).
 
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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'''Dive-bomber'''
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In Arcade Battles, you should concentrate on destroying ground targets: use your bombs for tanks and pillboxes first and use your offensive machine guns for soft targets like armoured cars, artillery, howitzers and AA. In this mode, you won't need your air brakes since you can't break your wings and it's easy to pull up from a high-speed dive. It's also recommended that you maintain a high speed after dive-bombing so you can escape unscathed and keep a ditance between your plane and pursuing enemy aircraft.
 
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Because of its low speed, non-retractable landing gear and reasonable durability, the {{PAGENAME}} is quite good for capturing airfields in the Arcade "Domination" mode.
 
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==== Air Realistic Battles ====
 
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In Realistic Battles, you should keep your altitude, and look for tank columns to attack (ground targets as far from the battlefield or enemy airfield as possible are recommended, so that you are less likely to be intercepted). Once you are right over your intended target, set your throttle to 0% and point your nose at the tank you want to destroy (since you have no bombsight, there will not be a bomb-drop indicator like in Arcade, and you will have to guess where the bombs will land). Once you are nearing your target, you will have to deploy your air-brakes or you won't be able to pull up at high speeds. You can tell when you are reaching a high speed with the sounds that the air and wings make. Once you drop your bomb(s) point your nose up to pull up. At this point, you can use your offensive armament to destroy soft targets like AA, engage enemy fighters that are nearby (which is very likely), or head back to the airfield to rearm for another run.
 
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Dog-fighting in RB with the Ju 87 is a very difficult task if the enemy knows your advantages and disadvantages and uses them to his advantage. Head-on attacks are very much not recommended, as the Ju 87's relatively weak armament severely lowers its chances of succeeding or surviving. Instead, stay low and slow in a combat situation with enemy aircraft (because of the Ju 87's control stiffening at high speeds) and try to trick the enemy into a turn fight. If he falls for your turn fight, you should end up on his 6 o'clock in 3-5 turns on most enemies, depending on the turn rate of the enemy plane. If he doesn't fall for your turn fight, you are most likely going to go down... this plane is not a fighter plane.
 
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When returning to base, landing and takeoff is simple, and use of the air brakes will help if you come in too fast to land.
 
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Take a modular payload of 5 bombs of 1x 250 or 500kg plus 4x 100 kg into battle, forget about 50 kg bombs whose effect is too weak to secure the destruction of an enemy tank. Bombs loaded on the wings drop together by pair, the last one is under the fuselage, meaning that with accurate aiming, you can consistently destroy two to three enemy ground vehicles. It is recommended to set up a fuse of at least 1.5 seconds to have time to clear the blast zone. Do not use the 100 kg bombs against heavy tanks.
 
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Your goal is to evolve at an altitude between 1,500 and 2,000 m above the battlefield. Once you've identified a target, fly towards its position while keeping your altitude. Proceed then to dive and reach a speed of 450 km/h, extend the airbrake to control the acceleration (and set the throttle on zero if needed) so that you stay at that speed.  Zoom in on the target and when it is twice as big as the mouse cursor, place the target between the cursor and the cockpit, and release the bomb. Trajectories vary depending on the weight of the bomb: place the target closer to the cursor for the 100 kg bomb and for the 500 kg one, closer to the cockpit. You can shoot a burst with your offensive machine guns to estimate your attack angle. Release your bombs around 1,000 m and pull on the stick to fly away and regain altitude. Once all bombs are out, return to your airfield to rearm for another run or target lightly armoured vehicles with your machine guns (SPAA, armoured car, light tank, open-topped SPG, etc.). If you are attacked by an enemy plane from behind, use your defensive MG and put a stray of 7.92 mm bullets into it, but use the ''armoured targets'' belt to compensate for the small calibre.
 
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* [[He 112 B-0]]{{-}}[[He 112 B-1/U2]]{{-}}[[He 112 B-2/U2]]{{-}}[[Bf 109 E-3]]{{-}}[[MiG-3-34]]{{-}}[[IL-2 (1941)]]{{-}}[[Yak-2 KABB]]{{-}}[[I-29]]{{-}}[[IAR-81C]]
 
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* [[P-40 (Family)]]{{-}}[[A-36]]{{-}}[[F4U-1A]]{{-}}{{Specs-Link|corsair_fmk2}}{{-}}[[A-20G-25]]{{-}}[[Ki-61-I otsu]]{{-}}{{Specs-Link|ki_61_1a_otsu_china}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|ki_44_2_hei_china}}
 
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* [[Hurricane Mk I/L]]{{-}}[[Hurricane Mk.I/L FAA M]]{{-}}[[Hurricane Mk IIB/Trop]]{{-}}[[Sea Hurricane Mk IB]]{{-}}[[Spitfire Mk Ia]]{{-}}[[Spitfire Mk IIa]]{{-}}[[Typhoon Mk Ia]]
 
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:: With eight to twelve 0.303 machine guns, these fighters can turnfight the Junkers and thus can damage you if you stay exposed for too long to their saturating fire. Avoid dogfighting these planes in general.
 
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=== IGD (Intentional Gear Destruction) ===
 
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Due to the high parasite drag imposed by fixed landing gear spats, the planes top speed and performance are hindered. No Stuka's landing gear is retractable. For maximum performance of the plane, one can destroy the gear by touching them to a body of water (not rough, but flat and calm). To do this, swoop low, and reduce airspeed to around 210 km/h (160 mph). Next, slowly near the water at an angle of attack of 10 degrees or more. Once you hear a snap, or see the gear come off, pull up immediately to avoid breaking the engine.
 
  
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;Effects on performance due to IGD
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The main use of this aircraft is to attack ground targets. "soft" targets such AA emplacements, howitzers, artillery, trucks, and light armoured cars can be destroyed with the forward-firing 7.92 mm MGs, and you can destroy heavier ground targets with bombs such as pillboxes, and AI or player controlled tanks. It can carry a max of 1 x 500 kg bombs + 4 x 50 kg in 3 drops, two of the 50 kg bombs (that drop in pairs) and a single 500 kg drop. The two drops of the 50 kg bombs drop without delay, but the 500 kg bomb sits on a pair of arms that take the bomb outwards and then drops. This means that there is a little delay between the trigger and the bomb release, so keep in mind that you have to drop the bomb a bit earlier and keep going in the same trajectory.
  
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Effects have been tested numerous times, but may vary based on payload, fuel, aircraft damage, etc.
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'''Fighter'''
  
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* Airspeed: +50 km/h (30 mph) to max speed.
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The Ju-87 R-2 can be a decently manoeuvrable once the bombs have been dropped, and as it usually faces biplanes, the armament of two low-calibre guns is not really underwhelming. As soon as the match starts drop the bombs and climb at 220 km/h, because of the air-spawn you will be higher than most fighters, and then you can boom and zoom them. This tactic benefits greatly from flying with a squad.
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* Drag coefficient: -10-20% (numbers not exact)
 
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* Weight: Negligible
 
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* Turn Time: -2 sec
 
  
 
=== Manual Engine Control ===
 
=== Manual Engine Control ===
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| Not controllable || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Separate || Not controllable<br>1 gear || Not controllable
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
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* More powerful engine than the previous Ju 87 models
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* More diverse payload options than its German counterpart
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* Extremely helpful in ground forces battles
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* The rear MG can be useful
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* Easy landing and takeoff
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* Decently manoeuvrable without any bombs
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* Low-speed manoeuvrability
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* Decent amount of ammo for the MGs
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* Precision bombing accuracy, has air brakes
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* Good visibility on cockpit view for simulator
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* Good ammunition amount for the 7.92 mm machine guns
 
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* Decent defensive armament
 
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* Can perform both level and dive bombing equally
 
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* Well armoured
 
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* Dive siren removed, like the R-2 model
 
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* Lower profile cockpit and no more large radiator below the engine
 
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* Very high rate of fire for defensive armament
 
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
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* Very slow compared to what it will face
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* Maximum payload is less than the German [[Ju 87 R-2]]
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* Poor climb rate
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* Main bomb release mechanism takes time to release
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* No bomb-sight, but with enough flight hours, precision bombing can be easily mastered
 
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* Defensive armament is inadequate against well armoured and well-coordinated foes
 
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* SPAA will rip you apart if not careful
 
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* Poor stock performance
 
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* No suspended guns, unlike the D-5 model
 
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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{{main|Ju_87_D-3#History|l1=History of the Ju 87 D-3}}
 
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===Procurement===
 
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In early 1939, a commission of the Luftwaffe met the Regia Aeronautica in Italy to share technology and knowledge. The Luftwaffe tested Italian aircraft and the Italian Air Force tested the Junkers 87. The dive bombing technique was not commonly used by Italian bombers as they lacked capable planes like the Stuka. The Italian government ordered 100 Ju 87 B-2 following the visit of the Luftwaffe. Italian fighter pilots were sent in Austria to be trained as Stuka pilots and in the summer of 1940, the Regia Aeronautica had its first dive bombing group followed later by additional squadrons.
 
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The first 50 planes were Ju 87 B-2 while the 50 following were Ju 87 R-2, a version derived from the B-2 focused on the anti-ship role and with greater autonomy thanks to drop fuel tanks. They were later upgraded to the R-5 version. The initial Italian Stukas were mainly used against Malta and the allied ships convoys in the Mediterranean and in North Africa, where they took part in the siege of Tobruk in 1941. As the war continued in Europe, the Italian Air Force received additional Ju 87 B-2 and R-5 for a total of 159 aircraft in 1942. The Regia Aeronautica received the D-3 version in 1943. The D-3 variant was derived from the D-1 (which had a better engine and better armament than previous versions) and was specially uparmoured for the ground attack role.
 
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===Combat usage===
 
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The Italian Ju 87 D-3 saw combat during the Allied invasion of Sicily, where they suffered heavy losses against allied fighters. After the Italian armistice, most of the Italian Stukas served with the Italian Cobelligerent Air Force and did not see further combat. They were used as training aircraft by allied air forces, either to get familiar with the plane's capabilities or to simulate air combat against Stukas.
 
  
 
== Media ==
 
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* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=italy&vehicleType=aircraft&vehicleClass=bomber&vehicle=ju-87d-3_italy Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ju-87r-2_italy Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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* Skins and camouflages for the German [[Ju 87 D-3]] can be used for the {{PAGENAME}}.
 
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{{Youtube-gallery|DmyKvn2-4GQ|'''Italian Ju 87s review. Stick with the German ones!''' - ''Joseph 2000'' (Review for the {{PAGENAME}} starts at 1:57)}}
 
  
 
== See also ==
 
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This page is about the dive bomber Ju 87 R-2 (Italy). For the German version, see Ju 87 R-2. For other versions, see Ju 87 (Family).
▄Ju 87 R-2
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▄Ju 87 R-2

Description

The ▄Ju 87 R-2 is a rank Italian bomber with a battle rating of (AB), (RB), and (SB). It was introduced in Update 1.85 "Supersonic".

The Italian version of the Ju 87 R-2 is quite similar to the German version, with some minor differences in terms of speed and flight performance. Additionally, the Italian version has different payload options as it carries different types of bombs. So it cannot carry the 1,000 kg bomb but it can carry some 50 kg bombs underneath the wings. It has 2 x 7.92 mm offensive machine guns and a single 7.92 mm machine gun in a dorsal turret operated by the gunner. Although this seems unimpressive, this armament is on par with most fighters at its rank and the rear MG, even with its blind spots, its decent enough to shake off some fighters.

General info

Flight performance

The Ju 87 R-2 isn't very manoeuvrable with bombs attached, but it can dance with a fighter in an emergency if it has the energy and has dropped the bombs.

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 4,100 m) 		Max altitude
(metres) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(metres/second) 		Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 366 357 28.1 29.1 6.5 6.5 434
Upgraded 402 383 25.9 27.0 14.0 9.6

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
X ✓ ✓ ✓ X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
N/A 469 320 ~18 ~7
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 250 < 350 < 350 > 280

Survivability and armour

  • 8 mm steel behind pilot
  • 5 mm steel between pilot and gunner

This bomber has better durability than most fighters of its rank, but subpar compared to similar bombers. The engine can be quite weak to oil and water leaks, so be sure to return to the base as soon as possible if your oil or water systems are hit.

Modifications and economy

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: MG 17 (7.92 mm)

The Ju 87 R-2 (Italy) is armed with:

  • 2 x 7.92 mm MG 17 machine guns, wing-mounted (500 rpg = 1,000 total)

Suspended armament

The Ju 87 R-2 (Italy) can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

1 2 3
Hardpoints Ju 87 B-2.png
50 kg GP 50 bombs 2 2
250 kg GP 250 bombs 1
500 kg GP 500 bombs 1
Default weapon presets
  • 1 x 250 kg GP 250 bomb (250 kg total)
  • 4 x 50 kg GP 50 bombs (200 kg total)
  • 1 x 500 kg GP 500 bomb (500 kg total)

Defensive armament

Main article: MG 15 (7.92 mm)

The Ju 87 R-2 (Italy) is defended by:

  • 1 x 7.92 mm MG 15 machine gun, dorsal turret (900 rpg)

Usage in battles

Dive-bomber

The main use of this aircraft is to attack ground targets. "soft" targets such AA emplacements, howitzers, artillery, trucks, and light armoured cars can be destroyed with the forward-firing 7.92 mm MGs, and you can destroy heavier ground targets with bombs such as pillboxes, and AI or player controlled tanks. It can carry a max of 1 x 500 kg bombs + 4 x 50 kg in 3 drops, two of the 50 kg bombs (that drop in pairs) and a single 500 kg drop. The two drops of the 50 kg bombs drop without delay, but the 500 kg bomb sits on a pair of arms that take the bomb outwards and then drops. This means that there is a little delay between the trigger and the bomb release, so keep in mind that you have to drop the bomb a bit earlier and keep going in the same trajectory.

Fighter

The Ju-87 R-2 can be a decently manoeuvrable once the bombs have been dropped, and as it usually faces biplanes, the armament of two low-calibre guns is not really underwhelming. As soon as the match starts drop the bombs and climb at 220 km/h, because of the air-spawn you will be higher than most fighters, and then you can boom and zoom them. This tactic benefits greatly from flying with a squad.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Not controllable Controllable
Not auto controlled 		Controllable
Not auto controlled 		Controllable
Not auto controlled 		Separate Not controllable
1 gear 		Not controllable

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • More diverse payload options than its German counterpart
  • The rear MG can be useful
  • Decently manoeuvrable without any bombs
  • Decent amount of ammo for the MGs
  • Good visibility on cockpit view for simulator

Cons:

  • Maximum payload is less than the German Ju 87 R-2
  • Main bomb release mechanism takes time to release
  • Although manoeuvrable, not enough to outmanoeuvre most fighters

History

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Media

Skins

See also

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  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


Junkers Aircraft and Motor Works (Junkers Flugzeug- und Motorenwerke Aktiengesellschaft)
Fighters  Ju 88 C-6 · Ju 388 J
Strike Aircraft 
Ju 87  Ju 87 G-1 · Ju 87 G-2
Bombers  Ju 88 A-1 · Ju 88 A-4 · Ju 188 A-2 · Ju 288 C
Ju 87  Ju 87 B-2 · Ju 87 D-3 · Ju 87 D-5 · Ju 87 R-2 · Ju 87 R-2 Libya
Export  ▄Ju 87 D-3 · ▄Ju 87 R-2 · ▄Ju 88 A-4

Italy bombers
Fiat  B.R.20DR · B.R.20M M1
Savoia-Marchetti  S.81 · S.M.79 serie 1 · S.M.79 B · S.M.79 serie 8 · S.M.79 AS · S.M.79 bis/T.M
CANT  Z.1007 bis serie 3 · Z.1007 bis serie 5
Piaggio  P.108B serie 1 · P.108B serie 2
  Foreign:
Germany  ▄Ju 87 R-2 · ▄Ju 87 D-3
Hungary  ◔Tu-2S-59

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