Difference between revisions of "Ju 87 R-2 (Italy)"

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This page is about the dive bomber Ju 87 R-2 (Italy). For the German version, see Ju 87 R-2. For other versions, see Ju 87 (Family).

▄Ju 87 R-2

Ba.65 (K.14) L

▄Ju 87 R-2

AB	RB	SB
1.3	1.3	1.3

Class:

Bomber

Dive bomber

Research:2 000

Purchase:2 100

Description

The ▄Ju 87 R-2 is a rank I Italian bomber with a battle rating of 1.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.85 "Supersonic".

The Italian version of the Ju 87 R-2 is quite similar to the German version, with some minor differences in terms of speed and flight performance. Additionally, the Italian version has different payload options as it carries different types of bombs. So it cannot carry the 1,000 kg bomb but it can carry some 50 kg bombs underneath the wings. It has 2 x 7.92 mm offensive machine guns and a single 7.92 mm machine gun in a dorsal turret operated by the gunner. Although this seems unimpressive, this armament is on par with most fighters at its rank and the rear MG, even with its blind spots, its decent enough to shake off some fighters.

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes

Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps

Max speed

at 4 100 m383 km/h

Turn time27 s

Max altitude7 000 m

EngineJunkers Jumo 211D

TypeInline

Cooling systemWater

Take-off weight4 t

The Ju 87 R-2 isn't very manoeuvrable with bombs attached, but it can dance with a fighter in an emergency if it has the energy and has dropped the bombs.

Characteristics	Max Speed (km/h at 4,100 m)		Max altitude (metres)	Turn time (seconds)		Rate of climb (metres/second)		Take-off run (metres)
Characteristics	AB	RB	Max altitude (metres)	AB	RB	AB	RB	Take-off run (metres)
Stock	366	357	7000	28.1	29.1	6.5	6.5	434
Upgraded	402	383	7000	25.9	27.0	14.0	9.6	434

Details

Features
Combat flaps	Take-off flaps	Landing flaps	Air brakes	Arrestor gear
X	✓	✓	✓	X

Limits
Wings (km/h)	Gear (km/h)	Flaps (km/h)			Max Static G
Wings (km/h)	Gear (km/h)	Combat	Take-off	Landing	+	-
680	680	N/A	469	320	~18	~7

Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons	Rudder	Elevators	Radiator
< 250	< 350	< 350	> 280

Survivability and armour

Crew2 people

Speed of destruction

Structural680 km/h

Gear680 km/h

8 mm steel behind pilot
5 mm steel between pilot and gunner

This bomber has better durability than most fighters of its rank, but subpar compared to similar bombers. The engine can be quite weak to oil and water leaks, so be sure to return to the base as soon as possible if your oil or water systems are hit.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference

AB226 → 284

RB319 → 402

SB429 → 540

Total cost of modifications4 430

2 690

Talisman cost300

Crew training600

Experts2 100

Aces45

Research Aces110 000

Reward for battleAB / RB / SB

20 / 40 / 80 %

100 / 100 / 100 %

Modifications

Flight performance

Survivability

Weaponry

Fuselage repair Research: 220 Cost: 135 45	Radiator Research: 220 Cost: 135 45
Airframe Research: 330 Cost: 200 70	Compressor Research: 330 Cost: 200 70
Wings repair Research: 280 Cost: 170 60	Engine Research: 280 Cost: 170 60
Cover Research: 480 Cost: 290 100	Engine injection Research: 480 Cost: 290 100

mg_belt_pack Research: 220 Cost: 135 45		GP50 Research: 220 Cost: 135 45
	mg_turret_belt_pack Research: 330 Cost: 200 70
mg17_new_gun Research: 280 Cost: 170 60		GP500 Research: 280 Cost: 170 60
	mg15_turret_new_gun Research: 480 Cost: 290 100

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: MG 17 (7.92 mm)

The Ju 87 R-2 (Italy) is armed with:

2 x 7.92 mm MG 17 machine guns, wing-mounted (500 rpg = 1,000 total)

Suspended armament

The Ju 87 R-2 (Italy) can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

	1	2	3
50 kg GP 50 bombs	2		2
250 kg GP 250 bombs		1
500 kg GP 500 bombs		1

Default weapon presets
1 x 250 kg GP 250 bomb (250 kg total) 4 x 50 kg GP 50 bombs (200 kg total) 1 x 500 kg GP 500 bomb (500 kg total)

Defensive armament

Main article: MG 15 (7.92 mm)

The Ju 87 R-2 (Italy) is defended by:

1 x 7.92 mm MG 15 machine gun, dorsal turret (900 rpg)

Usage in battles

Dive-bomber

The main use of this aircraft is to attack ground targets. "soft" targets such AA emplacements, howitzers, artillery, trucks, and light armoured cars can be destroyed with the forward-firing 7.92 mm MGs, and you can destroy heavier ground targets with bombs such as pillboxes, and AI or player controlled tanks. It can carry a max of 1 x 500 kg bombs + 4 x 50 kg in 3 drops, two of the 50 kg bombs (that drop in pairs) and a single 500 kg drop. The two drops of the 50 kg bombs drop without delay, but the 500 kg bomb sits on a pair of arms that take the bomb outwards and then drops. This means that there is a little delay between the trigger and the bomb release, so keep in mind that you have to drop the bomb a bit earlier and keep going in the same trajectory.

Fighter

The Ju-87 R-2 can be a decently manoeuvrable once the bombs have been dropped, and as it usually faces biplanes, the armament of two low-calibre guns is not really underwhelming. As soon as the match starts drop the bombs and climb at 220 km/h, because of the air-spawn you will be higher than most fighters, and then you can boom and zoom them. This tactic benefits greatly from flying with a squad.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer	Pitch	Radiator			Supercharger	Turbocharger
Mixer	Pitch	Oil	Water	Type	Supercharger	Turbocharger
Not controllable	Controllable Not auto controlled	Controllable Not auto controlled	Controllable Not auto controlled	Separate	Not controllable 1 gear	Not controllable

Pros and cons

Pros:

More diverse payload options than its German counterpart
The rear MG can be useful
Decently manoeuvrable without any bombs
Decent amount of ammo for the MGs
Good visibility on cockpit view for simulator

Cons:

Maximum payload is less than the German Ju 87 R-2
Main bomb release mechanism takes time to release
Although manoeuvrable, not enough to outmanoeuvre most fighters

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===, also if applicable).

Media

Skins

Skins and camouflages for the Ju 87 R-2 (Italy) from live.warthunder.com.

External links

Official data sheet - more details about the performance

*Junkers Aircraft and Motor Works (Junkers Flugzeug- und Motorenwerke Aktiengesellschaft)*
Fighters	Ju 88 C-6 · Ju 388 J
Strike Aircraft
Ju 87	Ju 87 G-1 · Ju 87 G-2
Bombers	Ju 88 A-1 · Ju 88 A-4 · Ju 188 A-2 · Ju 288 C
Ju 87	Ju 87 B-2 · Ju 87 D-3 · Ju 87 D-5 · Ju 87 R-2 · Ju 87 R-2 Libya
Export	▄Ju 87 D-3 · ▄Ju 87 R-2 · ▄Ju 88 A-4

Italy bombers
Fiat	B.R.20DR · B.R.20M M1
Savoia-Marchetti	S.81 · S.M.79 serie 1 · S.M.79 B · S.M.79 serie 8 · S.M.79 AS · S.M.79 bis/T.M
CANT	Z.1007 bis serie 3 · Z.1007 bis serie 5
Piaggio	P.108B serie 1 · P.108B serie 2
	Foreign:
Germany	▄Ju 87 R-2 · ▄Ju 87 D-3
Hungary	◔Tu-2S-59

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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].
-The Italian version of the [[Ju 87 R-2]] is quite similar to the German version, with some minor differences in terms of speed and flight performance. Additionally, the Italian version has different payload options as it carries different types of bombs. so it cannot carry the 1000kg bomb but it can carry some 50kg bombs underneath the wings. it has 2x7.92mm Machine guns and a single 7.92mm machine gun on the  turret operated by the gunner. although this seems unimpressive, this armament is on par with most fighters at its tier and the rear Mg, even with its blind spots, its decent enough to shake off some fighters
+The Italian version of the [[Ju 87 R-2]] is quite similar to the German version, with some minor differences in terms of speed and flight performance. Additionally, the Italian version has different payload options as it carries different types of bombs. So it cannot carry the 1,000 kg bomb but it can carry some 50 kg bombs underneath the wings. It has 2 x 7.92 mm offensive machine guns and a single 7.92 mm machine gun in a dorsal turret operated by the gunner. Although this seems unimpressive, this armament is on par with most fighters at its rank and the rear MG, even with its blind spots, its decent enough to shake off some fighters.
 == General info ==
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 <!-- ''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.'' -->
-The Ju 87 R-2 isn't very manoeuvrable with bombs attached, but it can dance with a fighter f it has the energy and has dropped the bombs
+The Ju 87 R-2 isn't very manoeuvrable with bombs attached, but it can dance with a fighter in an emergency if it has the energy and has dropped the bombs.
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-| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || 520 || 320 || ~15 || ~6
+| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || 469 || 320 || ~18 || ~7
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 * 5 mm steel between pilot and gunner
-this bomber has subpar durability compared to fighters, but subpar compared to bombers of the same tier. The engine can be quite weak to oil and water leaks, so be sure to return to the base as soon as possible if your oil or water systems are hit
+This bomber has better durability than most fighters of its rank, but subpar compared to similar bombers. The engine can be quite weak to oil and water leaks, so be sure to return to the base as soon as possible if your oil or water systems are hit.
 === Modifications and economy ===
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 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-{{main|GP 50 (50 kg)|GP 250 (250 kg)|GP 500 (500 kg)}}
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
+{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+|-
+! !! width="15%" | 1 !! width="15%" | 2 !! width="15%" | 3
+| rowspan="4" width="30%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_Ju_87_B-2.png]]</div>
+|-
+! [[GP 50 (50 kg)|50 kg GP 50]] bombs
+| 2 || || 2
+|-
+! [[GP 250 (250 kg)|250 kg GP 250]] bombs
+| || 1 ||
+|-
+! [[GP 500 (500 kg)|500 kg GP 500]] bombs
+| || 1 ||
+|-
+|}
+{{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
+{{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}}
 * 1 x 250 kg GP 250 bomb (250 kg total)
-* 1 x 250 kg GP 250 bomb + 4 x 50 kg GP 50 bombs (450 kg total)
+* 4 x 50 kg GP 50 bombs (200 kg total)
 * 1 x 500 kg GP 500 bomb (500 kg total)
-* 1 x 500 kg GP 500 bomb + 4 x 50 kg GP 50 bombs (700 kg total)
+{{Navigation-End}}
 === Defensive armament ===
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 '''Dive-bomber'''
-The main use of this aircraft is to attack ground targets. "soft" targets such AI AAA guns, Howitzers, Artillery, Trucks and light armored cars can be destroyed with the forward-firing 7.92mm MG's, and you can destroy heavier ground targets with bombs such as Pillboxes, AI or player controlled tanks. It can carry a max of 1 x 500 Kg Bombs + 4 x 50kg. you get 3 drops, two of the 50kg bombs (that drop in pairs) and a single 500kg drop. the two drops of the 50kg's drop without delay (this means that as soon as you  press the space-bar the bombs drop without delay) but the 500kg bomb drops differently. the bomb sit on a pair of arms that take the bomb outwards and then it drops, this means that there is a little delay between you press the space-bar and the bomb fall. so keep in mind that you have to drop the bomb a bit earlier and keep going in the same trajectory.
+The main use of this aircraft is to attack ground targets. "soft" targets such AA emplacements, howitzers, artillery, trucks, and light armoured cars can be destroyed with the forward-firing 7.92 mm MGs, and you can destroy heavier ground targets with bombs such as pillboxes, and AI or player controlled tanks. It can carry a max of 1 x 500 kg bombs + 4 x 50 kg in 3 drops, two of the 50 kg bombs (that drop in pairs) and a single 500 kg drop. The two drops of the 50 kg bombs drop without delay, but the 500 kg bomb sits on a pair of arms that take the bomb outwards and then drops. This means that there is a little delay between the trigger and the bomb release, so keep in mind that you have to drop the bomb a bit earlier and keep going in the same trajectory.
 '''Fighter'''
-the Ju-87 R-2 can be a decently maneuverable without any bombs, and as it usually faces biplanes, the armament of two low-caliber guns is not really underwhelming. so as soon as the match starts drop the bombs and climb at 220kph, (i suggest taking only the 250kg as the extra pods for carrying the wing bombs can create extra drag, although if you forget is not a catastrophic mistake). because of the air-spawn you will be higher than most fighters, and then you can boom and zoom them. this tactic benefits greatly from flying with a squad
+The Ju-87 R-2 can be a decently manoeuvrable once the bombs have been dropped, and as it usually faces biplanes, the armament of two low-calibre guns is not really underwhelming. As soon as the match starts drop the bombs and climb at 220 km/h, because of the air-spawn you will be higher than most fighters, and then you can boom and zoom them. This tactic benefits greatly from flying with a squad.
-'''Manual Engine Control'''
+=== Manual Engine Control ===
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 * More diverse payload options than its German counterpart
-* the rear Mg can be useful
+* The rear MG can be useful
-* decently maneuverable without any bombs.
+* Decently manoeuvrable without any bombs
-* decent amount of ammo for the MG's
+* Decent amount of ammo for the MGs
 * Good visibility on cockpit view for simulator
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 * Maximum payload is less than the German [[Ju 87 R-2]]
 * Main bomb release mechanism takes time to release
-* although maneuverable, not enough to out maneuver most fighters
+* Although manoeuvrable, not enough to outmanoeuvre most fighters
 == History ==
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 == Media ==
-''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
+<!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
+;Skins
+* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ju-87r-2_italy Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 == See also ==
 ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
 == External links ==
-''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
+<!--''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
+* ''topic on the official game forum;''
+* ''other literature.''-->
-* ''topic on the official game forum;''
+* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/161909-junkers-ju-87-b-2-and-r-2/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]
-* ''encyclopedia page on the aircraft;''
-* ''other literature.''
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 {{Italy bombers}}

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Difference between revisions of "Ju 87 R-2 (Italy)"

Latest revision as of 21:13, 13 October 2023

Contents

Description

General info

Flight performance

Details

Survivability and armour

Modifications and economy

Armaments

Offensive armament

Suspended armament

Defensive armament

Usage in battles

Manual Engine Control

Pros and cons

History

Media

See also

External links