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== Description == | == Description == | ||
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− | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' | + | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (Бравый; Brave, hull number 650) was one of the Project 56 Kotlin Class Destroyers while Bravy being the 56K variant with enhanced air-defense capabilities; the ship was built in Mykolaiv/Nikolayev Shipyard in 1952 and joined Soviet Navy in January 1956 as one of the ships in the VMF's Black Sea Fleet. The ship was famous for having an accidental collision with the Royal Navy's Ark Royal in November 1970 with casualties onboard Bravy. The ship was later stored in Sevastopol as "mothball fleet" (reserve fleet) and eventually broken up for recycle in 1987. |
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+ | Introduced in [[Update "La Royale"]] as the first Soviet ship to receive SAM for air-defense, although the installation of SA-N-1 Goa (V-600 or 4K90 in GRAU) costed a turret at the aft | ||
== General info == | == General info == | ||
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{{Specs-Fleet-Armour}} | {{Specs-Fleet-Armour}} | ||
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− | + | Although still being one of the family of Project 56 Destroyers and sharing mostly identical protection, Bravy has some distinctive features to other ships of its class. The most noticeable difference is the rear superstructure housing the Volna-M (Wave-M) SAM systems and its carousel autoloader, giving it the suffix K in its project number. Due to the system occupies where the aft turret once was, Bravy now only has one SM-2-1 twin 130 mm turret at the bow; the rearranged superstructure also removed the aft quad 45 mm autocannon and now only has 3 turrets of such onboard, minus yet another quintuple torpedo tubes. At such, Bravy has overall inferior firepower to other ships of its class. Be extra careful to evade oncoming shots, due to the cramped spaces at the bow with abundance of ammunitions and the missile carousel is mostly over the waterline, any direct hits could trigger fatal detonation to the ammunitions onboard and sending her straight to Davy Jone's Chest. | |
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+ | Like other Project 56s, the turrets, bridge and funnel are covered by anti-shrapnel armour ranging from 6-10 mm thickness; it is nowhere sufficient to stop direct shots from enemy ships, but at least it will give Bravy some chance to survive shrapnel from enemy HE shells. | ||
=== Mobility === | === Mobility === | ||
{{Specs-Fleet-Mobility}} | {{Specs-Fleet-Mobility}} | ||
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− | + | Same as other Project 56s, the ship is propelled by 4 GTZA TV-8 steam turbine engines; but due to the new systems and extra superstructure onboard, it has the slowest speed among all the other ships of its class maxed out at only 65 km/h. | |
{{NavalMobility}} | {{NavalMobility}} | ||
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{{main|130 mm/58 SM-2-1 (130 mm)}} | {{main|130 mm/58 SM-2-1 (130 mm)}} | ||
− | + | All Project 56 destroyers has identical main weapon: the 130mm SM-2-1 twin mount turret and Bravy is no exception; but a problem is that the addition of Volna-M launch occupied the aft turret, thus Bravy only has one bow turret. The overall firepower is still sufficient to take down light vessels in single salvo, alternatively using main cannon for air defense is viable with VT shells; do remember to keep the turret operational at all cost as the remaining autocannon or SAM is not viable to take on other destroyers. | |
{{:130 mm/58 SM-2-1 (130 mm)/Ammunition|130 mm OF-42 HE, 130 mm PB-42 SAP, 130 mm ZS-42R HE-VT}} | {{:130 mm/58 SM-2-1 (130 mm)/Ammunition|130 mm OF-42 HE, 130 mm PB-42 SAP, 130 mm ZS-42R HE-VT}} | ||
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{{main|45 mm/89 SM-20-ZIF (45 mm)}} | {{main|45 mm/89 SM-20-ZIF (45 mm)}} | ||
− | + | The Project 56K design also brings revisions the placement of AA autocannons, Bravy now only has 3 instead of 4 SM-20-ZIF quad mount 45 mm autocannon, the caliber and rate of fire can certainly strike fears to enemy aircrafts or smaller vessels with minimal protection. | |
=== Additional armament === | === Additional armament === | ||
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{{main|53-65 (533 mm)|RBU-2500}} | {{main|53-65 (533 mm)|RBU-2500}} | ||
− | + | The revised superstructure also removed a set of quintuple 533 mm torpedo tubes and the ship now only has 5 torpedo to spare; depending on the designated targets' size and draft, adjust the depth of torpedoes accordingly for maximum damage. | |
== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
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=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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− | + | * Access to SA-N-1 SAMs for extensive air-defense | |
+ | * Fast-firing 130 mm turret with varieties of ammunitions | ||
+ | * Sufficiently fast for a destroyer | ||
+ | * Search radar for both surface and aerial targets | ||
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'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
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+ | * Huge missile carousel at the rear over the waterline, huge risk of being detonated | ||
+ | * Lesser overall firepower over other ships of its class | ||
+ | * Only has 5 torpedoes at disposal | ||
+ | * Slow main cannon traverse speed | ||
+ | * Somewhat slower than other ships of its class | ||
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Revision as of 08:22, 26 June 2023
Contents
Description
The Pr.56-K, Bravy, 1967 (Бравый; Brave, hull number 650) was one of the Project 56 Kotlin Class Destroyers while Bravy being the 56K variant with enhanced air-defense capabilities; the ship was built in Mykolaiv/Nikolayev Shipyard in 1952 and joined Soviet Navy in January 1956 as one of the ships in the VMF's Black Sea Fleet. The ship was famous for having an accidental collision with the Royal Navy's Ark Royal in November 1970 with casualties onboard Bravy. The ship was later stored in Sevastopol as "mothball fleet" (reserve fleet) and eventually broken up for recycle in 1987.
Introduced in Update "La Royale" as the first Soviet ship to receive SAM for air-defense, although the installation of SA-N-1 Goa (V-600 or 4K90 in GRAU) costed a turret at the aft
General info
Survivability and armour
Although still being one of the family of Project 56 Destroyers and sharing mostly identical protection, Bravy has some distinctive features to other ships of its class. The most noticeable difference is the rear superstructure housing the Volna-M (Wave-M) SAM systems and its carousel autoloader, giving it the suffix K in its project number. Due to the system occupies where the aft turret once was, Bravy now only has one SM-2-1 twin 130 mm turret at the bow; the rearranged superstructure also removed the aft quad 45 mm autocannon and now only has 3 turrets of such onboard, minus yet another quintuple torpedo tubes. At such, Bravy has overall inferior firepower to other ships of its class. Be extra careful to evade oncoming shots, due to the cramped spaces at the bow with abundance of ammunitions and the missile carousel is mostly over the waterline, any direct hits could trigger fatal detonation to the ammunitions onboard and sending her straight to Davy Jone's Chest.
Like other Project 56s, the turrets, bridge and funnel are covered by anti-shrapnel armour ranging from 6-10 mm thickness; it is nowhere sufficient to stop direct shots from enemy ships, but at least it will give Bravy some chance to survive shrapnel from enemy HE shells.
Mobility
Same as other Project 56s, the ship is propelled by 4 GTZA TV-8 steam turbine engines; but due to the new systems and extra superstructure onboard, it has the slowest speed among all the other ships of its class maxed out at only 65 km/h.
Mobility Characteristics | |||
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Game Mode | Upgrade Status | Maximum Speed (km/h) | |
Forward | Reverse | ||
AB | |||
Upgraded | 81 | 40 | |
RB/SB | |||
Upgraded | 66 | 32 |
Modifications and economy
Armament
Primary armament
All Project 56 destroyers has identical main weapon: the 130mm SM-2-1 twin mount turret and Bravy is no exception; but a problem is that the addition of Volna-M launch occupied the aft turret, thus Bravy only has one bow turret. The overall firepower is still sufficient to take down light vessels in single salvo, alternatively using main cannon for air defense is viable with VT shells; do remember to keep the turret operational at all cost as the remaining autocannon or SAM is not viable to take on other destroyers.
Penetration statistics | |||||||
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Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
1,000 m | 2,500 m | 5,000 m | 7,500 m | 10,000 m | 15,000 m | ||
OF-42 HE | HE | 37 | 37 | 37 | 37 | 37 | 37 |
PB-42 SAP | SAPCBC | 204 | 174 | 134 | 104 | 82 | 57 |
ZS-42R HE-VT | HE-VT | 35 | 35 | 35 | 35 | 35 | 35 |
Shell details | ||||||||||||
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Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (s) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (kg) |
Ricochet | |||||
0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||||
OF-42 HE | HE | 950 | 33.4 | 0 | 0.1 | 3.83 | 79° | 80° | 81° | |||
PB-42 SAP | SAPCBC | 950 | 33.4 | 0.04 | 5 | 2.21 | 48° | 63° | 71° |
Proximity-fused shell details | ||||||||||||
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Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (m) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Arming distance (m) |
Trigger radius (m) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (kg) |
Ricochet | |||
0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||||
ZS-42R HE-VT | HE-VT | 955 | 33.08 | 0 | 0.1 | 240 | 16 | 3 | 79° | 80° | 81° |
Secondary armament
The Volna-M missile launcher is the main feature of this ship and places the vehicle in the rare category of a missile-armed warship, of which there are only two other ships in the game, both coastal vessels.
The launcher carries two 379 mm V-600P anti-air missiles at a time, with the total number of missiles on the craft at 18. Though designed for anti-air work, the missiles can be used against surface targets with mixed results.
A very important thing to note about the V-600P is that the missiles can be triggered by any munition that passes through its trigger radius. If any stray shells, bombs, rockets or anything of the sort get too close to the missile in flight, it will trigger the warhead and prematurely detonate the missile. It can even be triggered by flying over a torpedo. This has a significant reduction in the reliability of the missile as they can often be seen exploding seemingly at random before hitting the target. Although, this is only really an issue when aiming at surface targets, given the density of fire flying just above the waves. Against air targets, well above the shells being spewed by each team, this occurrence is rare enough not to really worry about.
One of the most noticeable things about the missiles is that they tend to twirl and curve through the air quite substantially rather than flying straight, especially just after launch. The missile attempts to home towards the direction that the player is aiming, however the player's viewpoint is placed in the bridge of the vessel when looking through the binoculars, near the front of the ship, while the launcher is towards the back of the vessel, so the missile darts sideways toward the player's centre of vision right after launch before stabilising itself. Although not too much of a problem most of the time, it can sometimes result in the missile splashing into the water after trying to swing into the centre of vision, as well as making aiming at closer ranger targets more finicky. This effect can be reduced by angling the ship and reducing the horizontal distance between the launcher and the player's viewpoint, which can limit the amount the missile swings off to the side and enables the missile to stabilise faster.
As for the missile curving and twisting through the air midway toward the target, this is because the missile is rather sensitive to the targets movement and is constantly correcting itself, occasionally overdoing it and causing the missile to spiral. This hardly happens against surface targets as ships move slowly and on a flat plane, however firing at aircraft will almost certainly result in some spirals. However, despite careening through the sky almost wildly, the missile is still fairly accurate against aircraft and will almost certainly end up scoring a hit against a target that doesn't evade out of the way.
Against air targets, the missiles have two targeting modes. The default mode is 'chase', where the missile just flies directly toward where the player is aiming. With aircraft typically flying at a relatively high speed, this often results in the missile detonating more towards the rear end of the plane which, due to the large trigger radius of 40 metres, and means that the aircraft may get away with only splinter damage, though the chase mode can still work well when aimed at an aircraft flying straight toward the player. With a warhead of over 40 kg worth of TNT, the missile is essentially the equivalent of a guided proximity-fused battleship-calibre HE shell, however the 40m radius is very large, even for the heavy warhead. If the missile triggers anywhere in the rear hemisphere of an aircraft, the plane will likely not be destroyed in one hit. Though usually inferior at dealing lethal damage to aircraft, an important aspect of chase mode is that it is completely immune to chaff and does not require the radar to even be turned on, only requiring that the player has a line of sight with the opposing plane.
The second mode is 'intercept', which the missile automatically sets to when a radar lock is achieved on the aircraft. In this mode, the missile does not fly directly where the player is pointing, but compensates for the speed of the aircraft by flying ahead of it on an intercept course, which will result in the missile detonating right in front of the plane, which will fly right through the spray of shrapnel and should result in the destruction of even the heaviest of bombers. Although better at dealing damage to an aircraft than chase mode, should the ship lose the radar lock on the plane for whatever reason, such as the radar being knocked out, the missile will switch from intercept to chase mode and this can result in it missing the target. There's also the radar lock dead-zone toward the rear of the vessel where the tracking radar cannot follow, marked by the dark area on the radar map. If a locked aircraft flies into that zone, the radar lock will be lost and a new one cannot be established until the plane moves out of the zone.
The missile moves at a very high speed and is relatively agile, enabling the player to rapidly and precisely strike targets, though it is highly sensitive to player aiming and target movement adjustments, which can throw the V-600P out of place as it barrels towards its new heading and overshoots, requiring it to swing back and possibly then back once more.
Penetration statistics | |||||||
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Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
1,000 m | 2,500 m | 5,000 m | 7,500 m | 10,000 m | 15,000 m | ||
V-600P | SAM | 70 | 70 | 70 | 70 | 70 | 70 |
Shell details | ||||||||||||
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Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Range (m) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (m) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Arming distance (m) |
Trigger radius (m) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (kg) |
Ricochet | ||
0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||||
V-600P | SAM | __ | 16,000 | 912 | 3 | 0.1 | 300 | 40 | 42.24 | 79° | 80° | 81° |
Anti-aircraft armament
The Project 56K design also brings revisions the placement of AA autocannons, Bravy now only has 3 instead of 4 SM-20-ZIF quad mount 45 mm autocannon, the caliber and rate of fire can certainly strike fears to enemy aircrafts or smaller vessels with minimal protection.
Additional armament
The revised superstructure also removed a set of quintuple 533 mm torpedo tubes and the ship now only has 5 torpedo to spare; depending on the designated targets' size and draft, adjust the depth of torpedoes accordingly for maximum damage.
Usage in battles
Describe the technique of using this ship, the characteristics of her use in a team and tips on strategy. Abstain from writing an entire guide – don't try to provide a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought. Talk about the most dangerous opponents for this vehicle and provide recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of playing with this vehicle in various modes (AB, RB, SB).
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Access to SA-N-1 SAMs for extensive air-defense
- Fast-firing 130 mm turret with varieties of ammunitions
- Sufficiently fast for a destroyer
- Search radar for both surface and aerial targets
Cons:
- Huge missile carousel at the rear over the waterline, huge risk of being detonated
- Lesser overall firepower over other ships of its class
- Only has 5 torpedoes at disposal
- Slow main cannon traverse speed
- Somewhat slower than other ships of its class
History
Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ship in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the ship and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Ship-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main
template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>
, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />
. This section may also include the ship's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===
, also if applicable).
Media
Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.
See also
- Related development
External links
USSR destroyers | |
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Imperial Russia | |
Derzky-class | Frunze |
Fidonisy-class | Kerch |
Soviet Union | |
Pr. 1 | Leningrad · Moskva |
Pr. 45 | Opytny |
Pr. 7 | Besposhchadny · Ryany |
Pr. 7U | Soobrazitelny · Stroyny |
Pr. 20 | Tashkent |
Pr. 30 | Ognevoy |
Pr. 30-bis | Smelyi · Bezuprechny |
Pr. 41 | Neustrashimy |
Pr. 56 | Spokoinyy · Blagorodnyy · Bravy |
Trophies | Romania |
Regele Ferdinand-class | Letuchiy |