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''When work on the incomplete cruiser [[Krasny Kavkaz]] was restarted in 1927, it had been planned to fit her with eight 8" (20.3 cm) guns in four twin turrets. However, it was quickly determined to be impossible to mount this much armament on the small and lightly constructed hull of this ship. Instead, four guns of the smaller caliber of 180 mm (7.1") were installed. These were 8"/50 (20.3 cm) Pattern 1905 guns relined down to 18 cm/60 (7.1"). These guns were to have had a very high muzzle velocity of 3,281 fps (1,000 mps) but initial trials showed that this would have given them a liner life of less than 10 rounds. The guns were derated but even then their life was quite short.''
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When work on the incomplete cruiser [[Krasny Kavkaz|''Krasny Kavkaz'']] was restarted in 1927, it had been planned to fit her with eight 8" (20.3 cm) guns in four twin turrets. However, it was quickly determined to be impossible to mount this much armament on the small and lightly constructed hull of this ship. Instead, four guns of the smaller caliber of 180 mm (7.1") were installed. These were 8"/50 (20.3 cm) Pattern 1905 guns relined down to 18 cm/60 (7.1"). These guns were to have had a very high muzzle velocity of 3,281 fps (1,000 mps) but initial trials showed that this would have given them a liner life of less than 10 rounds. The guns were derated but even then their life was quite short.
  
''Early trials with these weapons showed numerous faults and so a new design was commissioned with a lower muzzle velocity and a shorter barrel length. This design was designated as the 180 mm/57 (7.1") B-1-P Pattern 1932. The early prototypes were of built-up construction, but in 1932 the technology of making loose liners for guns with bores from 3" to 8" (7.62 cm - 20.3 cm) was purchased from the Italian firm of Ansaldo. With this technology in hand, later versions of the 180 mm (7.1) guns were manufactured with loose liners. There were two differing liners used, one with deep grooves and one with shallow grooves. These liners were not interchangeable and required different ammunition.''
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Early trials with these weapons showed numerous faults and so a new design was commissioned with a lower muzzle velocity and a shorter barrel length. This design was designated as the 180 mm/57 (7.1") B-1-P Pattern 1932. The early prototypes were of built-up construction, but in 1932 the technology of making loose liners for guns with bores from 3" to 8" (7.62 cm - 20.3 cm) was purchased from the Italian firm of Ansaldo. With this technology in hand, later versions of the 180 mm (7.1) guns were manufactured with loose liners. There were two differing liners used, one with deep grooves and one with shallow grooves. These liners were not interchangeable and required different ammunition.
  
''Three coast defense mounts using these guns were in service. The first one was MO-8-180 using 8"/50 (20.3 cm) guns relined to 180 mm/56 (7.1") with ballistics identical to those of the B-1-P gun. A total of 9 mounts were built in 1933-35 and all were installed in the Far East. The second coastal mount was another open mounting designated as MO-1-180 and designed in 1934. A total of 42 mounts were built by June 1941 and these were installed in 12 batteries located all around the Soviet coastline. Those batteries that survived the war remained in active service use until the 1960s-70s.''
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Three coast defense mounts using these guns were in service. The first one was MO-8-180 using 8"/50 (20.3 cm) guns relined to 180 mm/56 (7.1") with ballistics identical to those of the B-1-P gun. A total of 9 mounts were built in 1933-35 and all were installed in the Far East. The second coastal mount was another open mounting designated as MO-1-180 and designed in 1934. A total of 42 mounts were built by June 1941 and these were installed in 12 batteries located all around the Soviet coastline. Those batteries that survived the war remained in active service use until the 1960s-70s.
  
''The third coastal mount was the MB-2-180 twin turret designed in 1931-32. A total of eight turrets in 4 batteries were installed in the North in the 1930s-40s, six turrets in 3 batteries were installed along the Baltic coast by 1941, six turrets in 3 batteries were installed along the Pacific coast in the 1930s-40s and two turrets in 1 battery were installed along the Black Sea coast after the war. Surviving turrets were in use into 1990s.''<ref>http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNRussian_71-57_m1932.php</ref>
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The third coastal mount was the MB-2-180 twin turret designed in 1931-32. A total of eight turrets in 4 batteries were installed in the North in the 1930s-40s, six turrets in 3 batteries were installed along the Baltic coast by 1941, six turrets in 3 batteries were installed along the Pacific coast in the 1930s-40s and two turrets in 1 battery were installed along the Black Sea coast after the war. Surviving turrets were in use into 1990s.<ref>http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNRussian_71-57_m1932.php</ref>
  
 
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Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
1,000 m 2,500 m 5,000 m 7,500 m 10,000 m 15,000 m
180 mm OF-32 HE 60 60 60 60 60 60
180 mm B-32 APCBC 424 386 331 285 246 191
180 mm PB-32 SAPCBC 206 188 161 138 120 93
180 mm ZS-32 HE-TF 58 58 58 58 58 58
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Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
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Fuse sensitivity
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Explosive mass
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Ricochet
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180 mm OF-32 HE 920 97.5 0 0.1 7.9 79° 80° 81°
180 mm B-32 APCBC 920 97.5 0.01 9 2.49 48° 63° 71°
180 mm PB-32 SAPCBC 920 97.5 0.01 9 7 48° 63° 71°
180 mm ZS-32 HE-TF 920 97.5 0 0.1 7.52 79° 80° 81°

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History

When work on the incomplete cruiser Krasny Kavkaz was restarted in 1927, it had been planned to fit her with eight 8" (20.3 cm) guns in four twin turrets. However, it was quickly determined to be impossible to mount this much armament on the small and lightly constructed hull of this ship. Instead, four guns of the smaller caliber of 180 mm (7.1") were installed. These were 8"/50 (20.3 cm) Pattern 1905 guns relined down to 18 cm/60 (7.1"). These guns were to have had a very high muzzle velocity of 3,281 fps (1,000 mps) but initial trials showed that this would have given them a liner life of less than 10 rounds. The guns were derated but even then their life was quite short.

Early trials with these weapons showed numerous faults and so a new design was commissioned with a lower muzzle velocity and a shorter barrel length. This design was designated as the 180 mm/57 (7.1") B-1-P Pattern 1932. The early prototypes were of built-up construction, but in 1932 the technology of making loose liners for guns with bores from 3" to 8" (7.62 cm - 20.3 cm) was purchased from the Italian firm of Ansaldo. With this technology in hand, later versions of the 180 mm (7.1) guns were manufactured with loose liners. There were two differing liners used, one with deep grooves and one with shallow grooves. These liners were not interchangeable and required different ammunition.

Three coast defense mounts using these guns were in service. The first one was MO-8-180 using 8"/50 (20.3 cm) guns relined to 180 mm/56 (7.1") with ballistics identical to those of the B-1-P gun. A total of 9 mounts were built in 1933-35 and all were installed in the Far East. The second coastal mount was another open mounting designated as MO-1-180 and designed in 1934. A total of 42 mounts were built by June 1941 and these were installed in 12 batteries located all around the Soviet coastline. Those batteries that survived the war remained in active service use until the 1960s-70s.

The third coastal mount was the MB-2-180 twin turret designed in 1931-32. A total of eight turrets in 4 batteries were installed in the North in the 1930s-40s, six turrets in 3 batteries were installed along the Baltic coast by 1941, six turrets in 3 batteries were installed along the Pacific coast in the 1930s-40s and two turrets in 1 battery were installed along the Black Sea coast after the war. Surviving turrets were in use into 1990s.[1]

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USSR naval cannons
20 mm  ShVAK
25 mm  2M-3
30 mm  AK-230 · 30 mm/54 AK-630 · 30 mm/54 AK-630M · BP "Plamya"
37 mm  37 mm/67 70-K · V-11
45 mm  45 mm/46 21-K · 45 mm/68 21-KM · 45 mm/89 SM-20-ZIF · 45 mm/89 SM-21-ZIF
57 mm  AK-725
75 mm  75 mm/50 Canet patt.1892
76 mm  34-K · 39-K · 76 mm/60 AK-176M · AK-726 · D-56TS · F-34 · Lender AA gun, pattern 1914/15
85 mm  85 mm/52 92-K · 85 mm/54.6 ZIS-C-53 · 90-K
100 mm  100 mm/56 B-34 · 100 mm/70 SM-5-1 · Minizini
102 mm  Pattern 1911
120 mm  120 mm/50 pattern 1905
130 mm  130 mm/55 pattern 1913 · 130 mm/58 SM-2-1 · B-13
152 mm  152 mm/57 B-38
180 mm  180 mm/57 B-1-P · 180 mm/60 B-1-K
305 mm  12-inch/52 pattern 1907 · 305 mm/54 B-50
356 mm  14-inch/52 pattern 1913 (356 mm)
  Foreign:
40 mm  2pdr QF Mk.IIc (Britain) · Skoda (Czechoslovakia)
47 mm  3 pdr QF Hotchkiss (Britain)
76 mm  76 mm/40 Ansaldo mod.1917 (Italy)
88 mm  SK C/30 (Germany)
120 mm  120 mm/50 Mk.4 Bofors M1924 (Sweden) · 120 mm/50 O.T.O. Mod.1933 (Italy)
152 mm  152/53 mm O.T.O. Mod.1929 (Italy)
320 mm  320 mm/44 Ansaldo model 1934 (Italy)