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SMS Elbing is a well protected ship, having a turtleback armour scheme (40 mm thick, with 80 mm panels at the front and rear), like many other heavier German ships. Additionally, it has coal bunkers, which can provide a bit of extra protection at times. Main batteries are shielded by 50 mm of armour, which will protect them from most, if not all, HE shells that will come their way. Secondary cannons have no protection, but they aren't very useful anyway. The bridge is protected by 75 mm of armour on all sides. It is a well-protected ship for its BR.
  
 
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{{:150 mm/45 SK L/45 (150 mm)/Ammunition|150 mm Sprgr. L/4.1 Kz, 150 mm Sprgr. L/4.1 Bdz, 150 mm Psgr. L/3.7}}
  
 
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
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* Good torpedo launcher angles (only lacks coverage to the direct front/rear)
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* Good armour protection for its BR
  
 
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* has no AA ability
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* Minimal amount of secondary armament, ineffective against medium and long-range aircraft and smaller ships
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* Only 2 very slow torpedoes
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* Sluggish
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
 
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SMS Elbing was a light cruiser originally ordered by the Imperial Russian Navy with the name Admiral Nevelskoy. However, after the start of WW1 she was confiscated and launched in 1914 as SMS Elbing, being commissioned into the High Seas Fleet in September 1915.
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She only partook in 2 major operations, the first of which being the Bombardment of Yarmouth and Lowestoft, which were of some military importance with the main aim of the raid being to draw out defensive ships to be picked off by the German battlecruiser squadron or full High Seas Fleet if necessary. Elbing herself along with light cruiser Rostock attempted to draw the defensive force of cruisers and destroyers into the waiting guns of the German battlecruisers, but after seeing them, the British ships turned away. Light cruiser HMS Conquest and destroyer HMS Laertes still received heavy damage, as well as an unnamed light cruiser being slightly damaged. The result was inconclusive as the nearby British forces were too small to challenge the German ships and the attackers withdrew before significant forces like the British fast response battlecruiser squadron or Grand Fleet could arrive. Her second and final battle would be as part of the Battle of Jutland in May/June 1916, the only full scale battleship clash during the war and the last naval battle mainly fought by battleships. On 31st May Elbing was part of Scouting Group II - also containing her only sister ship SMS Pillau - where after first sighting the British 1st Light Cruiser Squadron after they opened fire on German torpedo boats, Elbing scored the first hit of the battle against light cruiser HMS Galatea at extreme range. After disengaging and a brief attempt to shoot down a British seaplane, Scouting Group II encountered and engaged HMS Chester, scoring several hits. British battlecruisers intervened, disabling a light cruiser but scoring no hits on Elbing despite a torpedo passing under her without detonating. Elbing was later hit by a single shot from the 2nd Light Cruiser Squadron, knocking out her wireless station, killing 4 and wounding 12. After midnight, the German fleet found the British rear destroyer screen, at which time Elbing was on the port side of the line and opened fire just after dreadnought [[SMS Westfalen]] began the engagement. The destroyers launched a torpedo attack, forcing the 3 cruisers to turn starboard, straight towards the German line.
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Elbing would not return from the Battle of Jutland, as during the turn to starboard she attempted to slot between battleships Nassau and Posen, but Posen's captain did not realise this until it was too late to avoid a collision. Posen turned hard to starboard, but still collided with Elbing's starboard quarter, holing it below the waterline and flooding the starboard engine first. She took on a list of 18 degrees allowing the water to spread to the port engine room, forcing all engines to be shut down, causing the ship to lose all electrical power. She was immobilised but not in danger of sinking, so after a torpedo boat took off most of her crew, her commander and a few officers rigged an improvised sail to bring her closer to shore. This was short-lived, however, as British destroyers were sighted nearby and the order to scuttle the ship was given. The remaining men set off in the ship's cutter, rescuing a surgeon from HMS Tipperary before being met by a Dutch trawler which took them to Holland.
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Over the Battle of Jutland, Elbing expended 230 rounds of 15 cm ammunition and 1 torpedo, with only 4 men killed and 12 wounded.
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
 
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== See also ==
 
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Latest revision as of 15:29, 4 March 2023

SMS Elbing
germ_cruiser_elbing.png
GarageImage SMS Elbing.jpg
SMS Elbing
AB RB SB
4.7 4.7 4.7
Research:26 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:76 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png
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Description

The Pillau-class, SMS Elbing, 1915 is a rank III German light cruiser with a battle rating of 4.7 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Drone Age".

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Citadel80 / 40 / 20 mm
Main fire tower50 / 50 / 0 mm
Hull25 mm (steel)
Superstructure8 mm (steel)
Number of section8
Displacement5 305 t
Crew442 people

SMS Elbing is a well protected ship, having a turtleback armour scheme (40 mm thick, with 80 mm panels at the front and rear), like many other heavier German ships. Additionally, it has coal bunkers, which can provide a bit of extra protection at times. Main batteries are shielded by 50 mm of armour, which will protect them from most, if not all, HE shells that will come their way. Secondary cannons have no protection, but they aren't very useful anyway. The bridge is protected by 75 mm of armour on all sides. It is a well-protected ship for its BR.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB59 / 25 km/h
RB51 / 22 km/h

Write about the ship's mobility. Evaluate its power and manoeuvrability, rudder rerouting speed, stopping speed at full tilt, with its maximum forward and reverse speed.

Mobility Characteristics
Game Mode Upgrade Status Maximum Speed (km/h) Turn Time (s) Turn Radius (m)
Forward Reverse
AB Stock ___ ___
Upgraded 59 25
RB/SB Stock ___ ___
Upgraded 51 22

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB4 310 → 5 495 Sl icon.png
RB5 472 → 6 976 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications26 700 Rp icon.png
50 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost1 100 Ge icon.png
Crew training22 000 Sl icon.png
Experts76 000 Sl icon.png
Aces500 Ge icon.png
Research Aces320 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
310 / 600 / 100 % Sl icon.png
142 / 142 / 142 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Seakeeping Unsinkability Firepower
Mods new ship hull.png
Dry-Docking
Research:
2 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 100 Sl icon.png
270 Ge icon.png
Mods new ship rudder.png
Rudder Replacement
Research:
1 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 200 Sl icon.png
120 Ge icon.png
Mods new ship screw.png
Propeller Replacement
Research:
1 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 100 Sl icon.png
110 Ge icon.png
Mods new ship engine.png
Engine Maintenance
Research:
2 900 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 400 Sl icon.png
290 Ge icon.png
Mods ship damage control crew.png
Damage Control Division
Research:
2 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 100 Sl icon.png
270 Ge icon.png
Mods ship fire control crew.png
Fire Division
Research:
1 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 200 Sl icon.png
120 Ge icon.png
Mods engine smoke screen system.png
Smokescreen
Research:
1 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 200 Sl icon.png
120 Ge icon.png
Mods ship anti fragmentation protection.png
Shrapnel Protection
Research:
1 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 100 Sl icon.png
110 Ge icon.png
Mods ship venting.png
Ventilation
Research:
1 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 100 Sl icon.png
110 Ge icon.png
Mods new ship pumps.png
New Pumps
Research:
2 900 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 400 Sl icon.png
290 Ge icon.png
Mods ship ammo wetting.png
Ammo Wetting
Research:
2 900 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 400 Sl icon.png
290 Ge icon.png
Mods new aux caliber turrets.png
Auxiliary Armament Targeting
Research:
1 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 200 Sl icon.png
120 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
150mm_ger_skl45_naval_sap_ammo_pack
Research:
1 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 200 Sl icon.png
120 Ge icon.png
Mods new main caliber turrets.png
Primary Armament Targeting
Research:
1 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 100 Sl icon.png
110 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
150mm_ger_skl45_l_3_7_naval_ap_ammo_pack
Research:
1 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 100 Sl icon.png
110 Ge icon.png
Mods ship rangefinder.png
Improved Rangefinder
Research:
1 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 100 Sl icon.png
110 Ge icon.png

Armament

Primary armament

8 х Turret150 mm/45 SK L/45 cannon
Ammunition150 rounds
Vertical guidance-7° / 20°

Provide information about the characteristics of the primary armament. Evaluate their efficacy in battle based on their reload speed, ballistics and the capacity of their shells. Add a link to the main article about the weapon: {{main|Weapon name (calibre)}}. Broadly describe the ammunition available for the primary armament, and provide recommendations on how to use it and which ammunition to choose.

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
1,000 m 2,500 m 5,000 m 7,500 m 10,000 m 15,000 m
Sprgr. L/4.1 Kz HE 21 21 21 21 21 21
Sprgr. L/4.1 Bdz SAPBC 95 80 61 47 37 28
Psgr. L/3.7 APCBC 238 201 153 117 93 71
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(s)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
Sprgr. L/4.1 Kz HE 835 45.3 0 0.1 1,600 79° 80° 81°
Sprgr. L/4.1 Bdz SAPBC 835 45.3 0.01 7 1,050 48° 63° 71°
Psgr. L/3.7 APCBC 835 45.3 0.015 7 990 48° 63° 71°

Secondary armament

4 х Turret52 mm/55 SK L/55 cannon
Ammunition500 rounds
Main article: SK L/55 (52 mm)

Some ships are fitted with weapons of various calibres. Secondary armaments are defined as weapons chosen with the control Select secondary weapon. Evaluate the secondary armaments and give advice on how to use them. Describe the ammunition available for the secondary armament. Provide recommendations on how to use them and which ammunition to choose. Remember that any anti-air armament, even heavy calibre weapons, belong in the next section. If there is no secondary armament, remove this section.

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
100 m 1,000 m 2,000 m 3,000 m 4,000 m 5,000 m
52-mm HE HE 4 4 4 4 4 4
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
52-mm HE HE 850 1.75 0 0.1 87 79° 80° 81°

Additional armament

Setup 12 x 500 mm G6c torpedo
Main article: G6c (500 mm)

Describe the available additional armaments of the ship: depth charges, mines, torpedoes. Talk about their positions, available ammunition and launch features such as dead zones of torpedoes. If there is no additional armament, remove this section.

Usage in battles

Describe the technique of using this ship, the characteristics of her use in a team and tips on strategy. Abstain from writing an entire guide – don't try to provide a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought. Talk about the most dangerous opponents for this vehicle and provide recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of playing with this vehicle in various modes (AB, RB, SB).

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Good torpedo launcher angles (only lacks coverage to the direct front/rear)
  • Good armour protection for its BR

Cons:

  • Minimal amount of secondary armament, ineffective against medium and long-range aircraft and smaller ships
  • Only 2 very slow torpedoes
  • Sluggish

History

SMS Elbing was a light cruiser originally ordered by the Imperial Russian Navy with the name Admiral Nevelskoy. However, after the start of WW1 she was confiscated and launched in 1914 as SMS Elbing, being commissioned into the High Seas Fleet in September 1915.

She only partook in 2 major operations, the first of which being the Bombardment of Yarmouth and Lowestoft, which were of some military importance with the main aim of the raid being to draw out defensive ships to be picked off by the German battlecruiser squadron or full High Seas Fleet if necessary. Elbing herself along with light cruiser Rostock attempted to draw the defensive force of cruisers and destroyers into the waiting guns of the German battlecruisers, but after seeing them, the British ships turned away. Light cruiser HMS Conquest and destroyer HMS Laertes still received heavy damage, as well as an unnamed light cruiser being slightly damaged. The result was inconclusive as the nearby British forces were too small to challenge the German ships and the attackers withdrew before significant forces like the British fast response battlecruiser squadron or Grand Fleet could arrive. Her second and final battle would be as part of the Battle of Jutland in May/June 1916, the only full scale battleship clash during the war and the last naval battle mainly fought by battleships. On 31st May Elbing was part of Scouting Group II - also containing her only sister ship SMS Pillau - where after first sighting the British 1st Light Cruiser Squadron after they opened fire on German torpedo boats, Elbing scored the first hit of the battle against light cruiser HMS Galatea at extreme range. After disengaging and a brief attempt to shoot down a British seaplane, Scouting Group II encountered and engaged HMS Chester, scoring several hits. British battlecruisers intervened, disabling a light cruiser but scoring no hits on Elbing despite a torpedo passing under her without detonating. Elbing was later hit by a single shot from the 2nd Light Cruiser Squadron, knocking out her wireless station, killing 4 and wounding 12. After midnight, the German fleet found the British rear destroyer screen, at which time Elbing was on the port side of the line and opened fire just after dreadnought SMS Westfalen began the engagement. The destroyers launched a torpedo attack, forcing the 3 cruisers to turn starboard, straight towards the German line.

Elbing would not return from the Battle of Jutland, as during the turn to starboard she attempted to slot between battleships Nassau and Posen, but Posen's captain did not realise this until it was too late to avoid a collision. Posen turned hard to starboard, but still collided with Elbing's starboard quarter, holing it below the waterline and flooding the starboard engine first. She took on a list of 18 degrees allowing the water to spread to the port engine room, forcing all engines to be shut down, causing the ship to lose all electrical power. She was immobilised but not in danger of sinking, so after a torpedo boat took off most of her crew, her commander and a few officers rigged an improvised sail to bring her closer to shore. This was short-lived, however, as British destroyers were sighted nearby and the order to scuttle the ship was given. The remaining men set off in the ship's cutter, rescuing a surgeon from HMS Tipperary before being met by a Dutch trawler which took them to Holland.

Over the Battle of Jutland, Elbing expended 230 rounds of 15 cm ammunition and 1 torpedo, with only 4 men killed and 12 wounded.

Media

Skins

See also

Links to articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the ship;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


F. Schichau GmbH
Minesweepers 
M-class Type 1943  M-802
Torpedo Boats 
Type 1939  T22 · T31
Light Cruisers 
Pillau-class  SMS Elbing
Battleships 
Bayern-class  SMS Baden

Germany light cruisers
Pillau-class  SMS Elbing
  Emden*
Königsberg-class  Karlsruhe · Köln
Leipzig-class  Leipzig · Nürnberg
  * Unique ship