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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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''The Hotchkill Mle 1929 & Mle 1930 was French built heavy machine-gun used for multi-purpose. more commonly used as close anti-air defence by the French Navy, it was also commonly used by the French Infantry during the 30s until WW2. the guns was also adapted as main armament for tanks, armoured cars and anti-aircraft vehicles. it was for France the equivalent of the [https://wiki.warthunder.com/M2HB_(12.7_mm) 12.7mm M2HB]''
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[[File:Hotchkiss Mle 1929.jpg|right|thumb|13.2mm Hotchkiss Mle 1929 in Naval quadmount]]
 
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The '''13.2 mm Hotchkiss Mle 1930''' is a French-built heavy machine gun for multi-purpose use. Starting as the Hotchkiss Mle 1929, the Mle 1930 is a ground-based anti-aircraft designation of the machine gun. It is commonly used as close anti-air defence by the French Navy and also by the Army during the '30s until WW2. The guns was also adapted as main armament for tanks, armoured cars and anti-aircraft vehicles. The Hotchkiss was for France the equivalent of the [[M2HB_(12.7_mm)|M2 Browning]] heavy machine gun.
 
  
 
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
 
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== General info ==
 
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''the 13.2mm Hotchkiss offer a good and balanced performence against aircraft and soft targets, but have dificulty against vehicles with more than 20mm of armour. feed by 30 rounds magazine, it would often show a limited capacity to substain a supressing fire. the gun have a fire-rate of 450 Rounds minutes but it practice, it would seldom reach 20 Rounds minutes due to the reload and recoil''
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The 13.2 mm Hotchkiss offers balanced performance against aircraft and soft targets, but has difficulty against vehicles with more than 20 mm of armour. It is fed by a 30-round magazine, which leads to the weapon's limited capacity to sustain suppressing fire. The gun has a fire-rate of 450 rounds per minute, but in practice it would seldom reach 200 rounds per minute due to the reload and recoil.
 
  
 
=== Available ammunition ===
 
=== Available ammunition ===
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''Many ammunition are available for those guns, but not all of them are currently in the game''
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Only one belt is currently available for the Hotchkiss in the game, the AP-T belt.
 
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* '''AP-T:''' {{Annotation|AP|M2 armour-piercing}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}
 
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=== Comparison with analogues ===
 
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* [[M2HB (12.7 mm)]] - Similar gun in performance, but a lot more successful. It replaced the Hotchkiss 13.2 mm after WW2 for standardization purpose.
 
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* [[Type 93 (13.2 mm)]] - Japanese licensed copy of the Hotchkiss
 
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* [[Breda Model 31 (13.2 mm)]] - Italian licensed copy of the Hotchkiss
 
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== Usage in battles ==
 
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This armament has a relatively small calibre which causes the post-penetration damage to be rather low. In many cases, even a direct hit to the crew might not be enough to knock them out. However, the 30-round magazine and fast fire-rate allow the user to place multiple hits in quick succession. Due to the low penetration, even reserve-level armoured vehicles might prove difficult targets. Anything with more than 20 mm of armour is better to avoid in combat. If you get close enough to a ground target, you might find this armament rather effective, but it is still strongly suggested to try to get your enemy from the side and rear where they are more vulnerable and pay less attention.
 
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If you have enough elevation and a traverse speed to follow an air target, this gun can prove pretty effective against aircraft. A couple of hits and the target is likely to be either set afire or lose some critical components.
 
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
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* Good fire-rate
 
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* Effective against soft targets
 
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* Effective against aircraft
 
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'''Cons:'''
 
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* Penetration a bit lacking
 
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* Magazine has only 30 rounds
 
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== History ==
 
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Developed by Hotchkiss & Cie in the mid 1920s, the Hotckiss Mle 1929 was a multi-purpose heavy machine gun. First used by the French Navy, it served as close anti-air defence for ships with a range of up to 2,500 metres. The Army also adopted the gun, but in the Mle 1930 variants. The difference was that the Mle 1930 wasn't equipped with the sight and mount that allow the machine gun to be used against aircraft, as the French Army worried that the bullets might fall back on civilian areas and potentially kill someone. The Army strictly used this armament as anti-tank and anti-infantry weapons in their service.
 
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In the 1930s, the French cavalry mounted the 13.2 mm machine gun onto AMR.35 ZT1 reconnaissance vehicles to add some anti-tank capability to defend themselves during missions. This was also attempted on armoured cars such as the Laffly 80AM. Some machine guns were also presented for export, arming anti-aircraft trucks, though the export attempt as anti-aircraft had no success. As an independent heavy machine gun however, this armament was very successful, been exported notably to Brazil, Poland, and Romania, but also licensed to Italy and Japan, nearly all of which used the 13.2 mm intensively during WW2.
 
  
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{| class="wikitable"
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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! colspan="8" |Penetration statistics
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! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
 
 
|-
 
|-
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! rowspan="2" |Ammunition
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! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
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! rowspan="2" |Type of
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! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
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warhead
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! colspan="6" |Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
 
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|-
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! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
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!10 m
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!100 m
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!500 m
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!1,000 m
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!1,500 m
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!2,000 m
 
|-
 
|-
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| '''Type O''' || AP || 24 || 23 || 14 || 10 || 7 || 4
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|'''Type O'''
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|AP
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|24
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|23
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|14
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|10
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|7
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|4
 
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|-
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| '''Type OT''' || AP-T || 24 || 23 || 14 || 10 || 7 || 4
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|'''Type OT'''
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|AP-T
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|24
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|23
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|14
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|10
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|7
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|4
 
|-
 
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| '''Type P''' || APC || 28 || 27 || 20 || 15 || 11 || 9
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|'''Type P'''
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|-
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|APC
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| '''Type PT''' || APC-T || 28 || 27 || 20 || 15 || 11 || 9
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|28
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|27
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|20
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|14
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|10
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|7
 
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|-
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|'''Type PT'''
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|APC-T
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|28
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|27
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|20
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|14
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|10
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|7
 
|}
 
|}
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
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! rowspan="2" |Type of
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warhead
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! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>mass (kg)
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! rowspan="2" |Velocity
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! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
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(m/s)
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! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
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! rowspan="2" |Projectile
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! rowspan="2" | Explosive mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
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! rowspan="2" |Fuse delay
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(m)
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! rowspan="2" |Fuse sensitivity
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(mm)
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! rowspan="2" |Explosive Mass
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(TNT equivalent) (g)
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! colspan="3" |Ricochet
 
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! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
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!0%
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!50%
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!100%
 
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| '''Type O''' || AP || 810 || 0.051 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 66° || 70° || 72°
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|'''Type O'''
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|AP-T
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|810
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|0.052
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|N/A
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|N/A
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|N/A
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|66°
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|70°
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|72°
 
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| '''Type OT''' || AP-T || 810 || 0.051 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 66° || 70° || 72°
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|'''Type O'''
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|AP-T
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|810
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|0.052
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|N/A
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|N/A
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|66°
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|70°
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|72°
 
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| '''Type P''' || APC || 810 || 0.052 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 66° || 70° || 72°
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|'''Type P'''
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|APC
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| '''Type PT''' || APC-T || 810 || 0.052 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 66° || 70° || 72°
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|810
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|0.052
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|N/A
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|N/A
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|N/A
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|66°
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|70°
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|72°
 
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|'''Type PT'''
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|APC-T
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|810
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|0.052
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|N/A
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|N/A
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|N/A
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|66°
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|70°
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|72°
 
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|}
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'''Cartouche à balle ordinaire O or just AP type O for short''' 
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it was a standard armor piercing rounds used against soft target such as infantry, unarmored vehicles and aircraft. the projectile was made of carbon steel and was capped with lead. there was a brass cloak around the projectile.
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can be identify by the primer seal painted either Black or Purple
  
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[[File:13.2mm Ammunition.jpg|thumb|Main combat rounds for the 13.2 mm Hotchkiss]]
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* projectile weight : 51,2 g
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* Velocity : 810 m/sec
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;'''Cartouche à balle ordinaire O''' (AP type O)
 
  
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The Type O was a standard armour-piercing round used against soft targets such as infantry, unarmoured vehicles, and aircraft. The projectile was made of carbon steel and was capped with lead. There was a brass cloak around the projectile.
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==== '''Cartouche à balle traçante TO or AP-T type TO'''  ====
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it was a standard rounds equipped with a tracer tail. it have the same ballistic as the Type O
  
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The round can be identified by the primer seal painted either black or purple.
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can be identify by the primer seal painted Green
  
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* Projectile weight: 51.2 g
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'''Cartouche à balle perforante P or AP type P''' 
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* Velocity: 810 m/sec
 
  
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;'''Cartouche à balle traçante OT''' (AP-T type OT)
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this round was a armor piercing hardened round used against armored target. the projectile was made of alliage Tunsten-steel (3% tungsten, 97% steel) and was tempered. there was a lead cap and brass cloak on the rounds
  
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The Type OT was a standard round equipped with a tracer tail. It had the same ballistics as the Type O.
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can be identify by primer seal painted Red
  
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The round can be identified by the primer seal painted green.
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* projectile weight : 52 g
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* Velocity : 810 m/sec
  
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;'''Cartouche à balle perforante P''' (AP type P)
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'''Cartouche à balle traçante TO or AP-T type TO'''  
  
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The Type P round was an armour-piercing hardened round used against armoured targets. The projectile was made of tungsten-steel alloy (3% tungsten, 97% steel) and was tempered. There was a lead cap and brass cloak on the rounds.
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it was a armor piercing rounds equipped with a tracer tail. it have the same balistic as the Type P
  
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The round can be identified by primer seal painted red.
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can be identify by the primer seal painted Yellow
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[[File:13.2mm Ammunition.jpg|thumb|chart of the 13.2mm ammunition used by France]]
  
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* Projectile weight: 52 g
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=== Comparison with analogues ===
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* Velocity: 810 m/sec
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;'''Cartouche à balle perforante traçante PT''' (AP-T type PT)
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The Type PT was an armour-piercing round equipped with a tracer tail. It had the same ballistics as the Type P.
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=== Pros and cons ===
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It can be identified by the primer seal painted yellow.
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'''Pros:'''
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'''Cons:'''
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== History ==
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* [[Model 1929 Hotchkiss (13.2 mm)]] Original single mount version
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* [https://imgur.com/a/uSJrgKG French Manual of the Hotchkiss Mle 1929]
 
  
 
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Description

The Hotchkill Mle 1929 & Mle 1930 was French built heavy machine-gun used for multi-purpose. more commonly used as close anti-air defence by the French Navy, it was also commonly used by the French Infantry during the 30s until WW2. the guns was also adapted as main armament for tanks, armoured cars and anti-aircraft vehicles. it was for France the equivalent of the 12.7mm M2HB

Vehicles equipped with this weapon

General info

the 13.2mm Hotchkiss offer a good and balanced performence against aircraft and soft targets, but have dificulty against vehicles with more than 20mm of armour. feed by 30 rounds magazine, it would often show a limited capacity to substain a supressing fire. the gun have a fire-rate of 450 Rounds minutes but it practice, it would seldom reach 20 Rounds minutes due to the reload and recoil

Available ammunition

Many ammunition are available for those guns, but not all of them are currently in the game

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of

warhead

Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
Type O AP 24 23 14 10 7 4
Type OT AP-T 24 23 14 10 7 4
Type P APC 28 27 20 14 10 7
Type PT APC-T 28 27 20 14 10 7
Shell details
     Ammunition        Type of

warhead

Velocity

(m/s)

Projectile

Mass (kg)

Fuse delay

(m)

Fuse sensitivity

(mm)

Explosive Mass

(TNT equivalent) (g)

Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
Type O AP-T 810 0.052 N/A N/A N/A 66° 70° 72°
Type O AP-T 810 0.052 N/A N/A N/A 66° 70° 72°
Type P APC 810 0.052 N/A N/A N/A 66° 70° 72°
Type PT APC-T 810 0.052 N/A N/A N/A 66° 70° 72°

Cartouche à balle ordinaire O or just AP type O for short

it was a standard armor piercing rounds used against soft target such as infantry, unarmored vehicles and aircraft. the projectile was made of carbon steel and was capped with lead. there was a brass cloak around the projectile.

can be identify by the primer seal painted either Black or Purple

  • projectile weight : 51,2 g
  • Velocity : 810 m/sec

Cartouche à balle traçante TO or AP-T type TO

it was a standard rounds equipped with a tracer tail. it have the same ballistic as the Type O

can be identify by the primer seal painted Green

Cartouche à balle perforante P or AP type P

this round was a armor piercing hardened round used against armored target. the projectile was made of alliage Tunsten-steel (3% tungsten, 97% steel) and was tempered. there was a lead cap and brass cloak on the rounds

can be identify by primer seal painted Red

  • projectile weight : 52 g
  • Velocity : 810 m/sec

Cartouche à balle traçante TO or AP-T type TO

it was a armor piercing rounds equipped with a tracer tail. it have the same balistic as the Type P

can be identify by the primer seal painted Yellow

chart of the 13.2mm ammunition used by France

Comparison with analogues

Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns that have firepower equal to this weapon.

Usage in battles

Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against notable opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.

Pros and cons

Summarise and briefly evaluate the weaponry in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark pros and cons as a list.

Pros:

Cons:

History

Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/ History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />.

Media

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See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;
  • references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.

External links

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  • topic on the official game forum;
  • other literature.


France anti-aircraft guns
13.2 mm  Hotchkiss Mle 1930
20 mm  GIAT M693/mod F2 · Oerlikon KAD (Swiss)
30 mm  HSS 831A
40 mm  Bofors L/60 · Mle. 1951 T1 (Bofors L/70)

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