Yer-2 (ACh-30B) (e) - Revision history

U38088265: /* Suspended armament */

2023-11-03T22:23:05Z

‎Suspended armament

U38088265: /* Suspended armament */ Updated

2023-11-03T22:21:32Z

‎Suspended armament: Updated

U38088265: /* In-game description */ Reformatted

2022-10-19T20:56:35Z

‎In-game description: Reformatted

U38088265: /* Details */

2022-07-18T21:03:55Z

‎Details

U44629479: Edits

2021-07-14T08:23:26Z

Edits

U44629479: Edits

2021-07-14T08:16:38Z

Edits

U6591054 at 10:07, 13 July 2021

2021-07-13T10:07:10Z

U6591054: /* Pros and cons */

2021-07-13T09:41:28Z

‎Pros and cons

U44629479: Edits

2021-03-26T18:48:44Z

Edits

U44629479: /* Flight performance */ Added upgraded values

2021-03-26T18:46:48Z

‎Flight performance: Added upgraded values

@@ Line 98: / Line 98: @@
 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-{{main|FAB-100sv (100 kg)|FAB-250sv (250 kg)|BRAB-250 (250 kg)|FAB-500sv (500 kg)|BRAB-500 (500 kg)}}
+{{main|FAB-100sv (100 kg)|FAB-250sv (250 kg)|FAB-500sv (500 kg)|FAB-1000 (1,000 kg)}}
-{{main|FAB-1000 (1,000 kg)|BRAB-1000 (1,000 kg)}}
+{{main|BRAB-250 (250 kg)|BRAB-500 (500 kg)|BRAB-1000 (1,000 kg)}}
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

@@ Line 98: / Line 98: @@
 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-{{main|FAB-100sv (100 kg)|FAB-250sv (250 kg)|FAB-500sv (500 kg)|FAB-1000 (1,000 kg)}}
+{{main|FAB-100sv (100 kg)|FAB-250sv (250 kg)|BRAB-250 (250 kg)|FAB-500sv (500 kg)|BRAB-500 (500 kg)}}
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
@@ Line 109: / Line 110: @@
 * 3 x 1,000 kg FAB-1000 bombs + 8 x 250 kg FAB-250sv bombs (5,000 kg total)
 * 3 x 1,000 kg FAB-1000 bombs + 4 x 500 kg FAB-500sv bombs (5,000 kg total)
 === Defensive armament ===

@@ Line 172: / Line 172: @@
 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
-=== In-game description ===
+{{break}}
 Yermolayev Yer-2 twin-engine, long-range bomber with ACh-30B engines, early production series
@@ Line 190: / Line 192: @@
 Only 2 Yer-2 aircraft were produced at Irkutsk Aircraft Factory No. 39 during the whole year of 1943. 47 more Yer-2s with a single-seat pilot's cockpit were built, until August 1944 when bombers with a two-seat pilot's cockpit started to be produced.
 == Media ==

@@ Line 66: / Line 66: @@
 ! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 |-
-| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 447 || 418 || 270 || ~4 || ~3
+| 551 <!-- {{Specs|destruction|body}} --> || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 447 || 418 || 270 || ~4 || ~3
 |-
 |}

@@ Line 1: / Line 1: @@
 {{About
-| about = Russian bomber '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
+| about = Soviet bomber '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
 | other
 | usage-1 = the Late version
@@ Line 14: / Line 14: @@
 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Russian bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.
 The Yer-2 (ACh-30B) is a long-range twin-engine bomber capable of carrying a very heavy payload of bombs (up to 5,000 kg) over shorter distances. Unlike the [[Yer-2 (Family)|earlier models]], the Yer-2 (ACh-30B) equipped with Charomskiy ACh-30B diesel engines for improved fuel economy and range at the cost of some performance due to the heavier engines.

@@ Line 16: / Line 16: @@
 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Russian bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.
-The Yer-2 (ACh-30B) is a long-range twin-engine bomber capable of carrying a very heavy payload of bombs (up to 5,000 kg) over shorter distances. Unlike the [[Yer-2 (M-105)|earlier models]], the Yer-2 (ACh-30B) equipped with Charomskiy ACh-30B diesel engines for improved fuel economy and range at the cost of some performance due to the heavier engines.
+The Yer-2 (ACh-30B) is a long-range twin-engine bomber capable of carrying a very heavy payload of bombs (up to 5,000 kg) over shorter distances. Unlike the [[Yer-2 (Family)|earlier models]], the Yer-2 (ACh-30B) equipped with Charomskiy ACh-30B diesel engines for improved fuel economy and range at the cost of some performance due to the heavier engines.
 == General info ==
 === Flight performance ===
 {{Specs-Avia-Flight}}
 The Yer-2's ACh-30B diesel engines were optimised for fuel economy and not pure performance. Thus, the ACh-30B-engined model is actually slower than the earlier M-105-engined models, especially because the diesel engines are significantly heavier than the earlier gasoline engines. The other aspects of its flight performance are unremarkable compared to other contemporary heavy bombers. It should also be kept in mind that the already poor flight performance is significantly degraded when carrying the maximum 5,000 kg payload.
 The Yer-2 is also by no means an agile aircraft in the first place and the airframe will not tolerate much G-load, hence it is very ill advised to make sudden control inputs with the aircraft unless playing in Arcade mode.
 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
 ! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
@@ Line 89: / Line 91: @@
 {{Specs-Economy}}
-Being a heavy strategic bomber, you should go for the bomb load upgrades first followed by turret 12 mm and 20 mm belts, as the ball ammo in the 12 mm belts is completely useless and the Berezin MG's belts are loaded with incendiary rounds, increasing the chance of starting fires on attackers. The rest of the modules are up to the player, but the survivability modules are recommended to withstand the beating you will be getting by fighters and interceptors.
+Being a heavy strategic bomber, you should go for the bomb load upgrades first followed by turret 12 mm and 20 mm belts, as the ball ammo in the 12 mm belts is completely useless and the Berezin MG belts are loaded with incendiary rounds, increasing the chance of starting fires on attackers. The rest of the modules are up to the player, but the survivability modules are recommended to withstand the beating you will be getting by fighters and interceptors.
 == Armaments ==
@@ Line 121: / Line 123: @@
 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-The Yer-2 with diesel ACh-30B engines is the last traditional heavy bomber in the Soviet line-up until the Tu-4, and it retains its previous models' strengths and weaknesses. The main draw of the diesel Yer-2s is the gigantic payload at its disposal (up to 5,000 kg), being the second best at the BR behind the British [[Lancaster B Mk I|Lancaster]]. However, the heavier diesel engines mean that it is actually slower than the earlier M-105-engined variants.
+The Yer-2 with diesel ACh-30B engines is the last traditional heavy bomber in the Soviet tree until the [[Tu-4]], and it retains its previous models' strengths and weaknesses. The main draw of the diesel Yer-2s is the gigantic payload at its disposal (up to 5,000 kg), being the second best at the BR behind the British [[Lancaster B Mk I|Lancaster]]. However, the heavier diesel engines mean that it is actually slower than the earlier M-105-engined variants.
-The airframe itself is not very durable, and with only two engines, the aircraft cannot maintain flight if one engine is knocked out. As such, it is best to avoid any form of engagement at all costs. The late model diesel Yer-2 has a side-by-side pilot cockpit arrangement, but is otherwise near identical to the early diesel Yer-2.
+The airframe itself is not very durable, and with only two engines, the aircraft cannot maintain flight if one is knocked out. As such, it is best to avoid any form of engagement at all costs. The late model diesel Yer-2 has a side-by-side pilot cockpit arrangement, but is otherwise near identical to the early diesel Yer-2.
 Carrying the maximum payload will also significantly degrade the already underwhelming flight performance of the Yer-2. Because of this, some careful planning is required in order to be able to carry the payload to its target:
-* '''''High altitude bomber:''''' The Yer-2 can attempt to climb to high altitudes in order to avoid attracting attention, but this is hampered by the poor performance the Yer-2 offers above 4,000 m due to its engine not receiving enough oxygen. While the safest playstyle, it is definitely the slowest and most boring one. It is recommended to side climb at the start of a match to avoid confrontation and gain altitude quickly. Ideally, one should climb to around 6,000–6,500 m to avoid being noticed by fighters below (and getting a marker in Arcade and Realistic Battles), and so that the planes that do notice it will have trouble climbing there quickly. At this altitude, airfield AA defences are also not a threat.
+* high altitude bomber: the Yer-2 can attempt to climb to high altitudes in order to avoid attracting attention, but this is hampered by the poor performance the Yer-2 offers above 4,000 m due to its engine not receiving enough oxygen. While the safest playstyle, it is definitely the slowest and most boring one. It is recommended to side climb at the start of a match to avoid confrontation and gain altitude quickly. Ideally, one should climb to around 6,000–6,500 m to avoid being noticed by fighters below (and getting a marker in Arcade and Realistic Battles), and so that the planes that do notice it will have trouble climbing there quickly. At this altitude, airfield AA defences are also not a threat.
-* '''''Medium altitude bomber:''''' Alternatively, one can maintain around 3,000–4,000 m altitude and flank around the map towards bases. It is recommended to use this playstyle when the aircraft is fully upgraded, as there is a higher chance of being attacked by enemy fighters who see the Yer-2 as easy prey. It is highly recommended to avoid flying through the middle of the battlefield at all costs, as this is where most fighters tend to concentrate their attention on.
+* medium altitude bomber: alternatively, one can maintain around 3,000–4,000 m altitude and flank around the map towards bases. It is recommended to use this playstyle when the aircraft is fully upgraded, as there is a higher chance of being attacked by enemy fighters who see the Yer-2 as easy prey. It is highly recommended to avoid flying through the middle of the battlefield at all costs, as this is where most fighters tend to concentrate their attention on.
 It is also important to note that the Yer-2 cannot spawn on airfields in Simulator Battles, as the take-off run is too long. It will thus be freshly spawned in the air at the very rear edge of the team's side of the map. However, if a successful landing is made on one of the airfields, the Yer-2 can be respawned in the air over that airfield instead.
@@ Line 155: / Line 157: @@
 '''Pros:'''
-* Massive payload, second best of any non-premium bomber at its battle rating.
+* Massive payload.
 * Relatively powerful defensive armament.
 * Has two pilots for redundancy.
@@ Line 162: / Line 164: @@
 * Very poor flight performance, especially with the maximum bomb load.
-* Has only two engines; cannot sustain flight with only one engine working.
+* Has only two engines, cannot sustain flight with only one engine working.
-* Wings are massive and flimsy, and also littered with fuel tanks.
+* Wings are massive, flimsy and littered with fuel tanks.
-* Performance suffers significantly above 4,000 meters.
+* Performance suffers significantly above 4,000 m.
 * Pilots are placed very close to each other.
@@ Line 194: / Line 196: @@
 ;Skins
-* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=ussr&vehicleType=aircraft&vehicleClass=bomber&vehicle=er-2_ach30b_early Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
+* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=er-2_ach30b_early Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 == See also ==
 ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
@@ Line 204: / Line 205: @@
 == External links ==
 ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
 * ''other literature.''

@@ Line 120: / Line 120: @@
 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-The Yer-2 with upgraded ACh-30B engines plays similarly to the previous model of Yer-2's, but with overall parameters and performance improved. It has a larger payload, better defensive armament and is faster than the previous model. However, this isn't saying much considering the speed improvement is negligible and the defensive armament can easily be avoided by a skilled pilot. As such, you should avoid any form of engagement at all costs. Despite these shortcomings, the thing that gained the Yer-2 its notoriety is its massive 5,000 kg payload. The Yer-2 was the reason why you had to destroy all of the mini-bases before moving onto the airfield, as it made games last incredibly short periods of time, and a fleet of Yer-2's was almost unstoppable. In the present day however, this is not the case, and it will take multiple Yer-2's working together to destroy the bases and airfield or just one very persistent and determined Yer-2.
+The Yer-2 with diesel ACh-30B engines plays similarly to the previous model of Yer-2's. It has a larger payload and better defensive armament but the heavier diesel engines mean that it is actually slower than the earlier M-105-engined variants. The airframe itself is not very durable, and with only two engines, the aircraft cannot maintain flight if one engine is knocked out. As such, it is best to avoid any form of engagement at all costs.
-;''Playstyles''
+Like the earlier models, the diesel Yer-2 can carry one of the heaviest payloads among the heavy bombers at its battle rating: up to 5,000 kg of bombs. However, carrying the maximum payload will significantly degrade the already underwhelming flight performance of the Yer-2. Because of this, some careful planning is required in order to be able to carry the payload to its target:
-* '''''High altitude bomber:''''' The high altitude mentality of bombers can be used, but this is hampered by the poor performance the Yer-2 offers above 4,000 meters due to its engine not receiving enough oxygen. While the safest, it is definitely the slowest. It is recommended to side climb at the start of a match to avoid confrontation and gain altitude quickly. Ideal altitude for this playstyle is around 6,000 - 6,500 meters, as you can avoid being noticed, and planes that do notice you will have trouble climbing there in a quick fashion.
+* '''''High altitude bomber:''''' The Yer-2 can attempt to climb to high altitudes in order to avoid attracting attention, but this is hampered by the poor performance the Yer-2 offers above 4,000 m due to its engine not receiving enough oxygen. While the safest playstyle, it is definitely the slowest and most boring one. It is recommended to side climb at the start of a match to avoid confrontation and gain altitude quickly. Ideal altitude for this playstyle is around 6,000–6,500 m to avoid being noticed by fighters below (and getting a marker in Arcade and Realistic Battles), and so that the planes that do notice it will have trouble climbing there quickly. At this altitude, airfield AA defences are also not a threat.
-* '''''Medium altitude bomber:''''' The role the Yer-2 was designed for, the player can stay around 3,000 - 4,000 meters and flank around the map towards bases. It is recommended to use this playstyle when the aircraft is spaded, as you have a higher chance of being attacked by enemy fighters who see the Yer-2 as easy prey. Maintain speed and take a long way around to bases and when you have destroyed all of them, you are free to go for ground targets.
+* '''''Medium altitude bomber:''''' Alternatively, one can maintain around 3,000–4,000 m altitude and flank around the map towards bases. It is recommended to use this playstyle when the aircraft is fully upgraded, as there is a higher chance of being attacked by enemy fighters who see the Yer-2 as easy prey. It is highly recommended to avoid flying through the middle of the battlefield at all costs, as this is where most fighters tend to concentrate their attention on.
 === Manual Engine Control ===
@@ Line 150: / Line 150: @@
 '''Pros:'''
-* Massive payload, second best of any non-premium bomber at the BR
+* Massive payload, second best of any non-premium bomber at its battle rating.
-* Relatively powerful defensive armament
+* Relatively powerful defensive armament.
-* Two pilots, if one gets knocked out the other can still fly
+* Has two pilots for redundancy.
 '''Cons:'''
-* Very slow
+* Very poor flight performance, especially with the maximum bomb load.
-* Defensive armament won't do anything versus heavily armoured interceptors
+* Has only two engines; cannot sustain flight with only one engine working.
-* Terrible climb rate
+* Wings are massive and flimsy, and also littered with fuel tanks.
-* Wings are massive and flimsy, making them easy targets
+* Performance suffers significantly above 4,000 meters.
-* Even for a heavy bomber, the manoeuvrability is poor
+* Pilots are placed very close to each other.
 == History ==
@@ Line 193: / Line 188: @@
 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=ussr&vehicleType=aircraft&vehicleClass=bomber&vehicle=er-2_ach30b_early Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 == See also ==
 ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
@@ Line 202: / Line 199: @@
 == External links ==
 ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
 * ''other literature.''

@@ Line 37: / Line 37: @@
 |-
 ! Upgraded
-| ___ || 415 || __._ || 48.0 || __._ || 9.5
+| 453 || 415 || 47.0 || 48.0 || 11.7 || 9.5
 |-
 |}