XM803 - Revision history

U78375386 at 09:16, 4 October 2024

2024-10-04T09:16:39Z

U31618161: /* Pros and cons */

2024-08-12T21:19:37Z

‎Pros and cons

U137328340: Spelling and grammatical changes ironed out

2024-08-03T22:04:16Z

Spelling and grammatical changes ironed out

U44629479 at 08:20, 28 April 2024

2024-04-28T08:20:37Z

U103691029: add ATGM reloading rate (I found that stock crew have the same loading rate of ATGM as expert one, although it write different time in modification, so is MBT/KPZ70&BMP3, so I think ATGM is also Autoloader)

2024-04-19T01:51:35Z

add ATGM reloading rate (I found that stock crew have the same loading rate of ATGM as expert one, although it write different time in modification, so is MBT/KPZ70&BMP3, so I think ATGM is also Autoloader)

U38088265: U38088265 moved page XM-803 to XM803: Renamed in 2.35

2024-03-13T15:42:06Z

U38088265 moved page XM-803 to XM803: Renamed in 2.35

U44629479: /* Usage in battles */ Edits

2024-01-28T09:31:51Z

‎Usage in battles: Edits

U74396666: Minor updates to the second paragraph of my description to make it more connected to the XM-803

2023-08-07T22:31:32Z

Minor updates to the second paragraph of my description to make it more connected to the XM-803

U38088265: /* Description */

2023-08-07T22:26:22Z

‎Description

U74396666: Revised version for my previous written description

2023-08-07T22:22:04Z

Revised version for my previous written description

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-The XM-803, like the MBT-70, is a very good flanker. To get the most out of this tank, you must use its high speed and acceleration to flank the enemy or set up ambushes. Its gun and ammunition are good enough to penetrate most tanks of a lower BR with ease, although when up-tiered, you will have to resort to aiming for the weak spots of opponents. The HEAT round you get is free, and will easily penetrate tanks with plain steel armour, however its shortcomings are very apparent when fired against composite armour. The lower muzzle velocity of the shell also makes it difficult to lead shots and to account for the range whilst stock. The APFSDS round has decent penetration and will defeat most armour it faces. It also has very high muzzle velocity, almost 1,500 m/s, making aiming at longer ranges easy. The ATGM which comes stock can be very useful, especially when first unlocking the vehicle. Though it has an increased reload time of 12 seconds, it can extend your engagement distance significantly if you lack the necessary means otherwise.
+XM803 represents a change in direction when compared to previous US tanks. Previous tanks in the tech tree like the [[M4]]<nowiki/>s and [[M60]]<nowiki/>s serve much more as jack-of-all-trade vehicles. Their mobility, guns and armour are all average and do not have especially potent features that user can exploit. This, however, is completely flipped on its head with the transition to the XM803. The survivability, on paper, is extremely poor. It will not survive many hits, if any, from ATGMs or cannon fire thanks to only a three-man crew layout. However, this can be completely disregarded by focusing on the mobility instead. The XM803 has almost twice the horsepower of [[M60]]<nowiki/>s, and weighs significantly less. This makes the tank extremely fast and agile, sometimes even faster than light tanks at the same BR.
-When faced with an enemy around a corner, one can attempt to bait shots by only exposing the frontal hull - opponents will often shoot this, only to find, much to their dismay, that there is nothing of value inside and you may not even have to use your fire extinguisher to put it out due to the fact that it is separate from the rest of the tank.
+Thanks to the extremely good mobility, it can be incredibly difficult for opponents to keep track of it in close range brawls. Thanks to this, the first priority of the user would be to catch single or small groups of enemies off-guard, destroy them, and run away. In the opening stages of a match, it may be tempting to drive in guns-blazing to try and snatch a couple of free kills, however the distribution of enemies across the map and the sheer number of them will mean that they will simply hunt the user down. To avoid a premature and frankly embarrassing demise, move into the centre of the map and wait behind solid cover. Use visual and audio-cues to take note of the number of enemies. If there are lots of enemies, use the solid cover to remain hidden and allow them to prepare for an engagement with your teammates first and pick them off. Avoid getting shot during this time, as the longer into the match the XM803 lasts, the better it will perform. After this, the latter parts of the game are simply a point-and-click adventure.
-While the armour may seem formidable at first, it struggles to fend off most other rounds at its battle rating, failing to stop most other APFSDS or HEAT-FS rounds. This lack-lustre protection is instead compensated by its other characteristics such as its excellent mobility and usage of an auto-loader.
+The APFSDS round has decent penetration and will defeat most foes easily. It also has very high muzzle velocity, almost 1,500 m/s, making aiming at longer ranges easy. The ATGM which comes stock can be very useful, especially when first unlocking the vehicle. Though it has an increased reload time of 12 seconds, it can extend your engagement distance significantly if you lack the necessary means otherwise.
 === Pros and cons ===

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 * Poor roof armour protection on the ammo and engine section
 * Chemical projectiles (HEAT and ATGM) will struggle a lot at this battle rating as vehicles with ERA protection are common, especially on Soviet vehicles.
 == History ==

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-The XM-803's frontal armour is only effective versus full-calibre AP and APHE rounds and certain APDS rounds. Almost all large calibre (76 mm and up) have no trouble slicing through it, even when hitting the frontal armour at an angle. Large calibre HEAT-FS too has no problem going through, although the large fuel tank behind the frontal hull armour can sometimes absorb most damage. The fuel tank is also completely separate from the rest of the tank, and as a result often burns out without damaging the rest of the vehicle. Because the armour has a layer of air in it, it is very effective against HESH rounds. All the spalling generated by the HESH round when it hits the first plate will get absorbed by the plate behind it. One big weak spot on the turret it the left (when facing it) turret cheek. This is because this part of the turret is not protected by spaced armour and only consists of 177.8 mm thick CHA plate, which most chemical and kinetic energy projectiles can penetrate with ease.
+The XM-803's frontal armour is only effective versus full-calibre AP and APHE rounds and certain APDS rounds. Almost all large calibre (76 mm and up) sabot rounds will have no trouble slicing through it, even when hitting the frontal armour at an angle. Large calibre HEAT-FS has no problem going through it too, although the large fuel tank behind the frontal hull armour can sometimes absorb a lot of the damage. The fuel tank is also completely separate from the rest of the tank, and as a result, often burns out without damaging the rest of the vehicle. The spaced armour proves effective against HESH rounds as the spall generated upon detonation on the external armour will be soaked by the underlying layers, significantly reducing the damaging effect of the round. One big weak spot on the turret is the left turret cheek (the right from the view of the tank commander). This is because this part of the turret is not protected by spaced armour and only consists of a 177.8 mm thick CHA plate, which most chemical and kinetic energy projectiles can penetrate with ease.
 '''Armour type:'''
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-The XM-803, like the MBT-70, is a very good flanker. To get the most out of this tank you must use its high speed and acceleration to flank the enemy or set up ambushes. Its gun and ammunition are good enough to penetrate most lower BR tanks with ease, although when up-tiered you will have to resort to aiming for the weak spots of opponents. The HEAT round you get is free, and will easily penetrate tanks with plain steel armour, but it's lacking when facing tanks with composite armour, and it has a rather mediocre muzzle velocity, making aiming and leading at longer ranges more difficult. The APFSDS round has decent penetration and will penetrate most opponents with relative ease. It also has very high muzzle velocity, almost 1,500 m/s, making aiming even at longer ranges easy. The ATGM is very useful and free, it's very good at long ranges, and is very effective against stationary or slow-moving helicopters.
+The XM-803, like the MBT-70, is a very good flanker. To get the most out of this tank, you must use its high speed and acceleration to flank the enemy or set up ambushes. Its gun and ammunition are good enough to penetrate most tanks of a lower BR with ease, although when up-tiered, you will have to resort to aiming for the weak spots of opponents. The HEAT round you get is free, and will easily penetrate tanks with plain steel armour, however its shortcomings are very apparent when fired against composite armour. The lower muzzle velocity of the shell also makes it difficult to lead shots and to account for the range whilst stock. The APFSDS round has decent penetration and will defeat most armour it faces. It also has very high muzzle velocity, almost 1,500 m/s, making aiming at longer ranges easy. The ATGM which comes stock can be very useful, especially when first unlocking the vehicle. Though it has an increased reload time of 12 seconds, it can extend your engagement distance significantly if you lack the necessary means otherwise.
 When faced with an enemy around a corner, one can attempt to bait shots by only exposing the frontal hull - opponents will often shoot this, only to find, much to their dismay, that there is nothing of value inside and you may not even have to use your fire extinguisher to put it out due to the fact that it is separate from the rest of the tank.
-While the armour may seem impressive at first, it won't protect you against most guns at and around its battle rating. Most tanks at this rank have access to powerful APFSDS and HEATFS rounds, which have no trouble penetrating you. Knowing this, you mustn't rely on your armour to protect you.
+While the armour may seem formidable at first, it struggles to fend off most other rounds at its battle rating, failing to stop most other APFSDS or HEAT-FS rounds. This lack-lustre protection is instead compensated by its other characteristics such as its excellent mobility and usage of an auto-loader.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 '''Pros:'''
-* Effective ammunition choice (Stock ATGM, stock HEAT shell, powerful APFSDS)
+* Good selection of ammunition types (Stock ATGM, stock HEAT shell, APFSDS)
-* Can fire ATGMs without restriction, even when moving at full speed
+* The ATGMs can be fired at any time, even when not stationary.
 * Good mobility and acceleration, high speed both forwards and backwards
 * Top mounted .50 cal can allow you to damage low-flying aircraft
-* Frontal Fuel tank behind the spaced armour which can sometimes absorb enemy chemical energy rounds
+* Frontal Fuel tank behind the spaced armour which can sometimes absorb enemy chemical effect rounds
 * Steady reload time thanks to the autoloader: losing a crew member will not impact the reload speed, and it still functions when putting out a fire
 * Has smoke grenade launchers
-* Turret mantlet is strong, can resist even certain APFSDS rounds
+* Turret mantlet is strong, can even resist certain APFSDS rounds
-* Has hydropneumatic suspension
+* Features a hydropneumatic suspension which can have its clearance raised or lowered
 * Excellent dual zoom of 8x and 12x
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 * Frontal armour can be penetrated even by some APHE rounds
 * Weak sides and LFP
-* Hydropneumatic suspension only works for up and down
+* Only the clearance can be adjusted with the hydropneumatic suspension
 * Ammo racks are large, can be easily hit, and do not have blowout panels
 * Vulnerable to the rear due to raised engine deck

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-! colspan="5" | [[XM150E5 (152 mm)|152 mm XM150E5]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || Reloading rate (seconds)
+! colspan="5" | [[XM150E5 (152 mm)|152 mm XM150E5]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || Reloading rate rounds (seconds) || Reloading rate ATGM (seconds)
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 ! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
 ! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
 ! Autoloader
-!Autoloader
+! Autoloader
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 ! ''Arcade''

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 ! colspan="5" | [[XM150E5 (152 mm)|152 mm XM150E5]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || Reloading rate (seconds)
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 ! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
 ! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
 ! Autoloader
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 ! ''Arcade''
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 ! ''Realistic''

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 The '''Tank, Combat, Full-Tracked, 152 mm Gun/Launcher XM-803''', developed from the [[MBT-70]], was part of the abandoned collaborative U.S. and West German initiative to develop a new main battle tank to replace the existing [[M60 (Family)|M60 family of MBT]] during the 1960s. The program experienced significant challenges from the start, with the United States Army and the German Bundeswehr having diverging doctrines that were not coordinated and were not resolved before the project was too far along to be modified. By the late 1960s, West Germany abandoned the project and the U.S. solely funded the project for the next few years. The MBT-70 was redesigned and designated the XM-803, as an attempt to modify the MBT-70 design into a low-cost substitution using entirely U.S.-made components, resulting in the strikingly similar XM-803 prototype. The biggest cost savings came from switching to less expensive steel armour plates. Costs were also decreased by using an engine built in the U.S. instead of West Germany. The prototype was a little heavier and a little slower compared to the original MBT-70. Despite these savings, the XM-803 design began to match the MBT-70 in sophistication as development progressed and was ultimately terminated. The XM-803 program was cancelled by Congress in December 1971, and work on a new tank program began, the XM-1, which ultimately resulted in the production-model [[M1 Abrams]] MBT.
-Introduced in [[Update 1.79 "Project X"]], the XM-803 offers players unique insights into the collaboration of tank development efforts by both the U.S. and West Germany. Despite the program's eventual demise, the XM-803 gives several unique capabilities for Cold War U.S. Army ground forces players, particularly the capacity to launch anti-tank guided missiles from the gun barrel, which is unusual in Western MBTs but prevalent in Soviet MBTs. Overall, the MBT strikes a good balance between protection, speed, and firepower, allowing players to easily engage most threats.
+Introduced in [[Update 1.79 "Project X"]], the XM-803 offers players unique insights into the pathway of U.S. tank development that ultimately leads to the current-day M1 Abrams MBT. Despite the program's eventual demise, the XM-803 gives several unique capabilities for Cold War U.S. Army ground forces players, particularly the capacity to launch anti-tank guided missiles from the gun barrel, which is unusual in Western MBTs but prevalent in Soviet MBTs. The XM-803 performs very similarly to its ancestor, the MBT-70; however, it suffers from a slightly lower top speed and lacks the original 20 mm cannon mounted on the turret roof. Overall, the MBT strikes a good balance between protection, speed, and firepower, allowing players to easily engage most threats.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''Tank, Combat, Full-Tracked, 152 mm Gun/Launcher XM-803''', developed from the [[MBT-70]] in the U.S., was part of the abandoned collaborative U.S. and West German initiative to develop a new main battle tank to replace the existing [[M60 (Family)|M60 family of MBT]] during the 1960s. The program experienced significant challenges from the start, with the United States Army and the German Bundeswehr having diverging doctrines that were not coordinated and were not resolved before the project was too far along to be modified. By the late 1960s, West Germany abandoned the project and the U.S. solely funded the project for the next few years. The MBT-70 was redesigned and designated the XM-803 by the U.S. The U.S. attempted to modify the MBT-70 design into a low-cost substitution using entirely U.S.-made components, resulting in the strikingly similar XM-803 prototype. The biggest cost savings came from switching to less expensive steel armour plates. Costs were also decreased by using an engine built in the U.S. instead of West Germany. The prototype was a little heavier and a little slower compared to the original MBT-70. Despite these savings, the XM-803 design still matched the MBT-70 in sophistication as development progressed and was ultimately terminated. The XM-803 program was cancelled by Congress in December 1971, and work on a new tank program began, which is the XM-1 design project. The XM-1 program ultimately resulted in the production-model M1 Abrams MBT.
+The '''Tank, Combat, Full-Tracked, 152 mm Gun/Launcher XM-803''', developed from the [[MBT-70]], was part of the abandoned collaborative U.S. and West German initiative to develop a new main battle tank to replace the existing [[M60 (Family)|M60 family of MBT]] during the 1960s. The program experienced significant challenges from the start, with the United States Army and the German Bundeswehr having diverging doctrines that were not coordinated and were not resolved before the project was too far along to be modified. By the late 1960s, West Germany abandoned the project and the U.S. solely funded the project for the next few years. The MBT-70 was redesigned and designated the XM-803, as an attempt to modify the MBT-70 design into a low-cost substitution using entirely U.S.-made components, resulting in the strikingly similar XM-803 prototype. The biggest cost savings came from switching to less expensive steel armour plates. Costs were also decreased by using an engine built in the U.S. instead of West Germany. The prototype was a little heavier and a little slower compared to the original MBT-70. Despite these savings, the XM-803 design began to match the MBT-70 in sophistication as development progressed and was ultimately terminated. The XM-803 program was cancelled by Congress in December 1971, and work on a new tank program began, the XM-1, which ultimately resulted in the production-model [[M1 Abrams]] MBT.
-Introduced in the [[Update 1.79 "Project X"|Update "Project X"]], the XM-803 offers players unique insights into the collaboration of tank development efforts by both the U.S. and West Germany. Despite the program's eventual demise, the XM-803 gives several unique capabilities for Cold War U.S. Army ground forces players, particularly the capacity to launch anti-tank guided missiles from the gun barrel, which is unusual in Western MBTs but prevalent in Soviet MBTs. Overall, the MBT strikes a good balance between protection, speed, and firepower, allowing players to easily engage most threats.
+Introduced in [[Update 1.79 "Project X"]], the XM-803 offers players unique insights into the collaboration of tank development efforts by both the U.S. and West Germany. Despite the program's eventual demise, the XM-803 gives several unique capabilities for Cold War U.S. Army ground forces players, particularly the capacity to launch anti-tank guided missiles from the gun barrel, which is unusual in Western MBTs but prevalent in Soviet MBTs. Overall, the MBT strikes a good balance between protection, speed, and firepower, allowing players to easily engage most threats.
 == General info ==