Vickers E (7.7 mm) - Revision history

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‎Comparison with analogues

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Comparison with analogues.

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 <!-- ''Describe the shells that are available for the weapon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).'' -->
-* '''Default:''' {{Annotation|T|Tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|IAI|Immediate-action incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|Ball|Omni-purpose}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}{{-}}{{Annotation|I|Incendiary}}
+* '''Default:''' {{Annotation|T|Tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}{{-}}{{Annotation|IAI|Immediate-action incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}{{-}}{{Annotation|I|Incendiary}}
-** Belt has weak incendiary and armor-piercing effect.
+::Belt has weak incendiary and armour-piercing effect.
 * '''Universal:''' {{Annotation|T|Tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}{{-}}{{Annotation|IAI|Immediate-action incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}
-** Belt has weak incendiary, but good armor-piercing effect compared to default. A good choice for pilots to bring.
+::Belt has weak incendiary, but good armour-piercing effect compared to default. A good choice for pilots to bring.
 * '''Tracers:''' {{Annotation|T|Tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|T|Tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|T|Tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}
-** Belt has low armor-piercing effect and no incendiary effect at all.
+::Belt has low armour-piercing effect and no incendiary effect at all.
 * '''Stealth:''' {{Annotation|I|Incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}{{-}}{{Annotation|IAI|Immediate-action incendiary}}
-** Belt has impressive armour-piercing capabilities and good incendiary effect. Probably the best choice once pilots are used to the ballistics.
+::Belt has impressive armour-piercing capabilities and good incendiary effect. Probably the best choice once pilots are used to the ballistics.
 === Comparison with analogues ===

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		+	}}
	== Description ==		== Description ==
	<!--''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.''-->		<!--''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.''-->

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 == See also ==
-''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
+<!-- ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
-* ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;''
+* [[Vickers K (7.7 mm)]]
 == External links ==

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 ! Country !! Model !! Year of Creation !! Rounds Per Minute !! Ammunition !! Estimated Оverheat<br>with Non-stop Firing !! Muzzle velocity
 |-
 | USA || [[Browning (7.62 mm)]] || style="text-align:center;" | 1919 || style="text-align:center;" | 1,000 RPM || 7.62 x 63 mm
 | 5.4 seconds (~90 rounds)
-| 835-920 m/s
+| 835-920 m/s
 |-
 | Germany || [[MG 17 (7.92 mm)]] || style="text-align:center;" | 1934 || style="text-align:center;" | 1,200 RPM || 7.92 x 57 mm
 | 6.25 seconds (~125 rounds)
 | 855-905 m/s
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 | Italy || [[Breda-SAFAT (7.7 mm)]] || style="text-align:center;" | 1935 || style="text-align:center;" | 900 RPM || 7.7 x 56 mm R || 9.7 seconds (~145 rounds) || 730 m/s
 |-
-| France || [[MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)]] || style="text-align:center;" | 1934 || style="text-align:center;" | 1,350 RPM || 7.5 x 54 mm MAS || 6.2 seconds (~140 rounds) || 835-920 m/s
+| France || [[MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)]] || style="text-align:center;" | 1934 || style="text-align:center;" | 1,350 RPM || 7.5 x 54 mm MAS || 6.2 seconds (~140 rounds) || 835-920 m/s
 |-
 | Sweden || [[Ksp m/22 (8 mm)]] || style="text-align:center;" | 1919 || style="text-align:center;" | 1,200 RPM || 8 x 63 mm || 7 seconds (~140 rounds) || 750-853 m/s
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 == History ==
-The Vickers E is an airborne variant of the [[Vickers (7.7 mm)|Vickers]] machine gun. When Vickers Ltd. acquired the Maxim company in 1896, they acquired the design of the [[Maxim (6.5 mm)|Maxim]], the world's first machine which was credited for the success of "Scramble for Africa" in the late nineteenth century. Vickers Ltd. was quick to improve on the original design, adding a muzzle booster to provide a gas boost for the recoil operated action, simplifying the action, using higher strength alloys to reduce weight, and turning the mechanism upside down. In World War I, the Vickers was the British Army's machine gun of choice and did not disappoint. In August 1916, ten machine guns were fired non-stop for 12 hours firing a million rounds with no breakdowns.
+<!-- ''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>.'' -->
-The first military aircraft in World War I were unarmed as they were intended for reconnaissance and surveillance and aviation was still in its infancy. However, the idea of machine guns on aircraft was still considered a possibility. In 1913, not long before World War I began, Vickers produced the first purpose-built combat aircraft by the request of the British Admiralty. The Vickers E.F.B. 1 was only a prototype, but did get armed with a flexible mounted Vickers gun. However, when the design evolved to the first operational fighter aircraft the Vicker F.B.5 "Gunbus", the armament was changed to a [[Lewis (7.7 mm)|Lewis gun]]. After 1916 however, sidearms were not enough to for French and British fighter pilots and the Vickers was used to production aircraft with fighters such as the Sopwith Triplane, and the French Nieuport 17 and SPAD VII. These guns were designated the Vickers E with the E indicating it was used by the pilot. While heavier than the similar Lewis gun, it benefited from being a recoil-operated gun that fired from a closed bolt meaning it could synchronized to fire through the blades of the propeller. The Vickers E was an air-cooled design instead of being water-cooled due to being in an aircraft flying allowing for natural cooling from low temperatures. However, the water jacket was a necessary component of the barrel-boosted recoil operation so it was left on the aircraft guns. By the late war period, the aerial arms race necessitated twin Vickers on aircraft including the famous Sopwith Camel and French SPAD XIII along with other fighters such as the Nieuport 28. The war also saw the development of the 11mm Vickers Balloon Buster, a design that uses large tracer or incendiary rounds specifically for use against observation balloons.
+The first military aircraft in World War I were unarmed as they were intended for reconnaissance and surveillance and aviation was still in its infancy. However, the idea of machine guns on aircraft was still considered a possibility. In 1913, not long before World War I began, Vickers produced the first purpose-built combat aircraft by the request of the British Admiralty. The Vickers E.F.B. 1 was only a prototype, but did get armed with a flexible mounted Vickers gun. However, when the design evolved to the first operational fighter aircraft, the Vickers F.B.5 "Gunbus", the armament was changed to a [[Lewis (7.7 mm)|Lewis gun]]. After 1916 however, sidearms were not enough for French and British fighter pilots and the Vickers was used to arm production fighters such as the Sopwith Triplane, and the French Nieuport 17 and SPAD VII. These guns were designated the Vickers E with the E indicating it was used by the pilot. While heavier than the similar Lewis gun, it benefited from being a recoil-operated gun that fired from a closed bolt, meaning it could be synchronized to fire through the blades of the propeller. The Vickers E was an air-cooled design instead of being water-cooled, as being in a flying aircraft allowed for natural cooling from low temperatures. However, the water jacket was a necessary component of the barrel-boosted recoil operation so it was left on the aircraft guns. By the late war period, the aerial arms race necessitated twin Vickers on aircraft including the famous Sopwith Camel and French SPAD XIII along with other fighters such as the Nieuport 28. The war also saw the development of the 11 mm Vickers Balloon Buster, a design that used large tracer or incendiary rounds specifically for use against observation balloons.
-After World War I, the British would keep the Vickers E and used it arm their post-war biplanes however as they moved their aircraft machine guns to the wings, the British would adopt the [[Browning (7.7 mm)|Browning .303]] as a replacement. The last fighter aircraft to be armed with the Vickers E is the Gloster [[Gladiator (Family)|Gladiator]] biplane though it was later replaced with Brownings. The Vickers E still saw service during World War II however, as gun armed the [[Swordfish Mk I|Swordfish]] Torpedo Bombers would remain in service through the entire conflict even outlasting two attempted replacements during the conflict.
+After World War I, the British would keep the Vickers E and used it arm their post-war biplanes however as they moved their aircraft machine guns to the wings, the British would adopt the [[Browning (7.7 mm)|Browning .303]] as a replacement. The last fighter aircraft to be armed with the Vickers E is the Gloster [[Gladiator (Family)|Gladiator]] biplane though it was later also replaced with Brownings. The Vickers E still saw service during World War II however, as gun armed the [[Swordfish Mk I|Swordfish]] Torpedo Bombers that would remain in service throughout the entire conflict, even outlasting two attempted replacements.
 == Media ==

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 == History ==
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+The Vickers E is an airborne variant of the [[Vickers (7.7 mm)|Vickers]] machine gun. When Vickers Ltd. acquired the Maxim company in 1896, they acquired the design of the [[Maxim (6.5 mm)|Maxim]], the world's first machine which was credited for the success of "Scramble for Africa" in the late nineteenth century. Vickers Ltd. was quick to improve on the original design, adding a muzzle booster to provide a gas boost for the recoil operated action, simplifying the action, using higher strength alloys to reduce weight, and turning the mechanism upside down. In World War I, the Vickers was the British Army's machine gun of choice and did not disappoint. In August 1916, ten machine guns were fired non-stop for 12 hours firing a million rounds with no breakdowns.
 == Media ==

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 | Muzzle velocity || 720-730 m/s
 |-
-| Rate of fire || 900 shots per minute
+| Rate of fire || 900 rounds per minute
 |-
 | Cartridge type || 0.303 British; 7.7х56R
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 | Capacity || 600 cartridges (500 on the [[Osprey Mk IV]])
 |-
-| Estimated Оverheat with Non-stop Firing || 6.7 seconds non-stopped firing (~100 rounds)
+| Estimated Оverheat with Non-stop Firing || 6.7 seconds (~100 rounds)
 |-
 |}
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 <!--''Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns that have firepower equal to this weapon.''-->
-{| class="wikitable"
+{| class="wikitable sortable"
 ! colspan="7" |Comparable machine guns to {{PAGENAME}}
 |-
-!Country
+! Country !! Model !! Year of Creation !! Rounds Per Minute !! Ammunition !! Estimated Оverheat<br>with Non-stop Firing !! Muzzle velocity
 |-
-| Great Britain || '''Vickers E (7.7 mm)''' || style="text-align:center;" | 1917 || style="text-align:center;" | 900 RPM || 7.62 x 63 mm
+| USA || [[Browning (7.62 mm)]] || style="text-align:center;" | 1919 || style="text-align:center;" | 1,000 RPM || 7.62 x 63 mm
-|6.7 seconds (~100 rounds)
+| 5.4 seconds (~90 rounds)
-|720-730 m/s
+| 835-920 m/s
 |-
-| USA || [[Browning (7.62 mm)]] || style="text-align:center;" | 1919 || style="text-align:center;" | 1000 RPM || 7.62 x 63 mm
+| Germany || [[MG 17 (7.92 mm)]] || style="text-align:center;" | 1934 || style="text-align:center;" | 1,200 RPM || 7.92 x 57 mm
-|5.4 seconds (~90 rounds)
+| 6.25 seconds (~125 rounds)
-|835-920 m/s
+| 855-905 m/s
 |-
-| Japan || [[Type 89 army (7.7 mm)|Type 89 army]]  || style="text-align:center;" | 1932 || style="text-align:center;" | 900 RPM || 7.7 x 56 mm R
+| USSR || [[PV-1 (7.62 mm)]] || style="text-align:center;" | 1926 || style="text-align:center;" | 750 RPM || 7.62×54 mm R || 8 seconds (~100 rounds) || 800-825 m/s
 |-
-| Italy || [[Breda-SAFAT (7.7 mm)]] || style="text-align:center;" | 1935 || style="text-align:center;" | 900 RPM || 7.7 x 56 mm R
+| Great Britain || '''Vickers E (7.7 mm)''' || style="text-align:center;" | 1917 || style="text-align:center;" | 900 RPM || 7.62 x 63 mm || 6.7 seconds (~100 rounds) || 720-730 m/s
 |-
-| Germany || [[MG 17 (7.92 mm)]] || style="text-align:center;" | 1934 || style="text-align:center;" | 1200 RPM || 7.92 x 57 mm
+| Japan || [[Type 89 army (7.7 mm)|Type 89 army]] || style="text-align:center;" | 1932 || style="text-align:center;" | 900 RPM || 7.7 x 56 mm R || 6.7 seconds (~100 rounds) || 811 m/s
 |-
-| USSR || [[PV-1 (7.62 mm)]] || style="text-align:center;" | 1926 || style="text-align:center;" | 750 RPM || 7,62×54 mm R
+| Italy || [[Breda-SAFAT (7.7 mm)]] || style="text-align:center;" | 1935 || style="text-align:center;" | 900 RPM || 7.7 x 56 mm R || 9.7 seconds (~145 rounds) || 730 m/s
 |-
-| France || [[MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)]] || style="text-align:center;" | 1934 || style="text-align:center;" | 1350 RPM || 7.5 x 54 mm MAS
+| France || [[MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)]] || style="text-align:center;" | 1934 || style="text-align:center;" | 1,350 RPM || 7.5 x 54 mm MAS || 6.2 seconds (~140 rounds) || 835-920 m/s
-|6.2 seconds (~140 rounds)
+|-
-|835-920 m/s
+| Sweden || [[Ksp m/22 (8 mm)]] || style="text-align:center;" | 1919 || style="text-align:center;" | 1,200 RPM || 8 x 63 mm || 7 seconds (~140 rounds) || 750-853 m/s
 |-
 |}
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 '''Pros:'''
-* Fast fire rate
+* Fast rate of fire
-* High ammo count
+* High ammunition count
 * Able to take down most planes in its BR

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 | Capacity || 600 cartridges (500 on the [[Osprey Mk IV]])
 |-
-| Оverheat || 6.7 seconds non-stopped firing (100 rounds)
+| Estimated Оverheat with Non-stop Firing || 6.7 seconds non-stopped firing (~100 rounds)
 |-
 |}
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 !Country
 ! Model !! Year of Creation !! Rounds Per Minute !! Ammunition
-!Оverheat
+! Estimated Оverheat<br>with Non-stop Firing
 !Muzzle velocity
 |-
 | Great Britain || '''Vickers E (7.7 mm)''' || style="text-align:center;" | 1917 || style="text-align:center;" | 900 RPM || 7.62 x 63 mm
-|6.7 seconds (100 rounds)
+|6.7 seconds (~100 rounds)
 |720-730 m/s
 |-
 | USA || [[Browning (7.62 mm)]] || style="text-align:center;" | 1919 || style="text-align:center;" | 1000 RPM || 7.62 x 63 mm
-|5.4 seconds (90 rounds)
+|5.4 seconds (~90 rounds)
-|853 m/s
+|835-920 m/s
 |-
-| Japan || [[Type 92 navy (7.7 mm)]]/[[Type 89 army (7.7 mm)|Type 89 army]]  || style="text-align:center;" | 1932 || style="text-align:center;" | 900 RPM || 7.7 x 56 mm R
+| Japan || [[Type 89 army (7.7 mm)|Type 89 army]]  || style="text-align:center;" | 1932 || style="text-align:center;" | 900 RPM || 7.7 x 56 mm R
-|6.7 seconds (100 rounds)
+|6.7 seconds (~100 rounds)
-|743 m/s
+|811 m/s
 |-
 | Italy || [[Breda-SAFAT (7.7 mm)]] || style="text-align:center;" | 1935 || style="text-align:center;" | 900 RPM || 7.7 x 56 mm R
-|9.7 seconds (145 rounds)
+|9.7 seconds (~145 rounds)
 |730 m/s
 |-
-| Germany || [[MG 17 (7.92 mm)]] || style="text-align:center;" | 1934 || style="text-align:center;" | 200 RPM || 7.92 x 57 mm
+| Germany || [[MG 17 (7.92 mm)]] || style="text-align:center;" | 1934 || style="text-align:center;" | 1200 RPM || 7.92 x 57 mm
-|6.25 seconds (125 rounds)
+|6.25 seconds (~125 rounds)
-|885-905 m/s
+|855-905 m/s
 |-
 | USSR || [[PV-1 (7.62 mm)]] || style="text-align:center;" | 1926 || style="text-align:center;" | 750 RPM || 7,62×54 mm R
-|5.2 seconds (65 rounds)
+|8 seconds (~100 rounds)
-|865 m/s
+|800-825 m/s
 |-
 | France || [[MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)]] || style="text-align:center;" | 1934 || style="text-align:center;" | 1350 RPM || 7.5 x 54 mm MAS
-|6.2 seconds (140 rounds)
+|6.2 seconds (~140 rounds)
-|830 m/s
+|835-920 m/s
 |-
-|Sweden||[[Ksp m/22 (8 mm)]] || style="text-align:center;" | 1919 || style="text-align:center;" | 1200 RPM ||8 x 63 mm||7 seconds (140 rounds)||750 m/s
+|Sweden||[[Ksp m/22 (8 mm)]] || style="text-align:center;" | 1919 || style="text-align:center;" | 1200 RPM ||8 x 63 mm
 |}