Vautour IIN (Israel) - Revision history

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 == Media ==
 <!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
-* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=so_4050_vautour_2n_israel_iaf Skins and camouflages for the Vautour IIN (Israel) from live.warthunder.com.]
+;Skins
 == See also ==

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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:
+The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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 | rowspan="9" width="30%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_S.O.4050_Vautour_IIA.png]]</div>
 |-
-! 100/50 kg G.P. bombs
+! [[100/50 kg G.P. (100 kg)|100/50 kg G.P.]] bombs
 | 1 || 1 || 6 || 1 || 1
 |-
-! 250/50 kg G.P. bombs
+! [[250/50 kg G.P. (250 kg)|250/50 kg G.P.]] bombs
 | 1 || 1 || 6 || 1 || 1
 |-
-! 360/50 kg G.P. bombs
+! [[360/50 kg G.P. (360 kg)|360/50 kg G.P.]] bombs
 | 1 || 1 || 6 || 1 || 1
 |-
-! 500/50 kg G.P. bombs
+! [[500/50 kg G.P. (500 kg)|500/50 kg G.P.]] bombs
 | 1 || 1 || 2 || 1 || 1
 |-
-! SNEB type 23 rockets
+! [[SNEB type 23]] rockets
 | 19 || 19 || 112 || 19 || 19
 |-
-! T10 140 rockets
+! [[T10 140]] rockets
 | 6 || 6 || || 6 || 6
 |-
-! T10 151 rockets
+! [[T10 151]] rockets
 | 6 || 6 || || 6 || 6
 |-
-! Shafrir missiles
+! [[Shafrir]] missiles
 | 1 || 1 || || 1 || 1
 |-
 |}
 == Usage in battles ==

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli jet bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]].
+The Vautour IIN was a two seat interceptor jet powered aircraft designed by France in the 1950s. It was designed around the Vautour IIA but with a radar and all weather capabilities. It featured cannons and air to air missiles (both IR and radar guided) as offensive armaments. These aircrafts where used by Israel until the arrival of the Mirage IIIC when they where given to the "Knights of the Heart" division. The Vautours where replaced later by the A-4E Skyhawk and the F-4E Phantom being retired in 1972.
 == General info ==
 === Flight performance ===
 {{Specs-Avia-Flight}}
-<!-- ''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.'' -->
+<!-- ''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.'' -->The extra performance of the engines, compared to the ones used by the Vautour IIA, can be a very important diference in battle. When throttle is set to 110% the acceleration and overall engine power is increased in a very significant margin, at the cost of severe overheating when used constantly. While the Vautour has great engine power compared to other subsonic aircrafts, this mode allows regaining speed much faster. The flight performance may be sluggish, however is not as bad as other subsonic bombers like the Yak-28 and the B-57, allowing the Vautour to avoid early missiles and making evasive manoeuvres against other jets.
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 === Modifications and economy ===
-{{Specs-Economy}}
+Since the Vautour has an air spawn, pilots attention should go to the armament area, unlocking the 500KG bombs and the 4 x Shafrir missiles. These 2 will allow pilots to destroy a full base and have 2 missiles for air to air kills. After these modifications are installed, focus on the performance upgrades and finally in the survivability modifications.{{Specs-Economy}}
 == Armaments ==
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 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
 {{main|100/50 kg G.P. (100 kg)|250/50 kg G.P. (250 kg)|360/50 kg G.P. (360 kg)|500/50 kg G.P. (500 kg)}}
-{{main|Shafrir|SNEB type 23|T10 140|T10 151}}
+{{main|Shafrir|SNEB type 23|T10 140|T10 151}}A good option for most gamemodes would be 6 x 360/50 kg G.P. bombs in the bombs bay, 2 x 500/50 kg G.P. bombs in the inner pylons and 2 x Shafrir IR missiles in the outer pylons, this allows the destruction of a full base in air RB (or several ground targets in ground RB) and 2 missiles for air to air kills
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:
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 * Very large turn radius
 * Compression at high speeds can make it hard to hit opponents with guns
 == History ==
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 == Media ==
 <!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
-''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
+; '''Skins'''
 == See also ==
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 * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
-''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
+'''Related Development'''
-* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
+* [[Vautour (Family)]]
-* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
+* [[Vautour IIA (Israel)]]
 == External links ==

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 == History ==
 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
-The Vautour IIN was a two-seat, all-weather interceptor variant of [[S.O.4050 Vautour IIA|Vautour IIA]] with radar, and armed with cannons, air-to-air missiles, and unguided rockets. It was operated by the "Bat" squadron out of Tel Nof Airbase, until the arrival of the [[Shahak|Mirage IIIC]], when they were handed over to the "Knights of the Heart" division at Ramat David Airbase. The Vautour was used as aerial reconnaissance and night interceptors during the Six-Day War, as well as later in the 1960s. They were replaced by the [[Ayit|A-4 Skyhawk]] and the [[Kurnass|F4-E Phantom]]. The Vautour was retired in 1972, with the "Knights of the Heart" division replacing them with the Skyhawk.
+The Vautour IIN was a two-seat, all-weather interceptor variant of [[S.O.4050 Vautour IIA|Vautour IIA]] with radar, and armed with cannons, air-to-air missiles, and unguided rockets. It was operated by the "Bat" squadron out of Tel Nof Airbase, until the arrival of the [[Shahak|Mirage IIIC]], when they were handed over to the "Knights of the Heart" division at Ramat David Airbase. The Vautour was used as aerial reconnaissance and night interceptors during the Six-Day War, as well as later in the 1960s. They were replaced by the [[A-4H (Israel)|A-4 Skyhawk]] and the [[Kurnass|F4-E Phantom]]. The Vautour was retired in 1972, with the "Knights of the Heart" division replacing them with the Skyhawk.
 == Media ==

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 '''Air Realistic Battles'''
-The Vautour IIN, being a jet bomber, doesn't lend itself very well to any sort of dogfight against its adversaries. The compression, handling, and overall sluggish nature of the IIN make it a very hard plane to focus solely on enemy fighters. It's best to use it as a support fighter: picking off enemies that are distracted or other attackers/bombers who aren't as manoeuvrable as fighters. The IIN also gets access to four [[Shafrir|Shafrir 1's]], which can be used to force enemies to turn, destroy other bombers and get AI planes. The four DEFA 30 mm cannons can easily shred planes apart in a tiny burst. Unlike its predecessor, the Vautour IIA, the IIN has a very capable radar complete with IFF that makes spotting planes out of visual range much easier.
+The Vautour IIN, being a jet bomber, doesn't lend itself very well to any sort of dogfight against its adversaries. The compression, handling, and overall sluggish nature of the IIN make it a very hard plane to focus solely on enemy fighters. It's best to use it as a support fighter: picking off enemies that are distracted or other attackers/bombers who aren't as manoeuvrable as fighters. The IIN also gets access to four [[Shafrir|Shafrir 1 missiles]], which can be used to force enemies to turn, destroy other bombers and get AI planes. The four DEFA 30 mm cannons can easily shred planes apart in a tiny burst. Unlike its predecessor, the Vautour IIA, the IIN has a very capable radar complete with IFF that makes spotting planes out of visual range much easier.
 If going after planes is difficult in the Vautour IIN, it can also access bombs and rockets. A loadout with rockets and bombs can prove to be very efficient in draining the enemy team's tickets. In addition, the armored target belt can very easily destroy light pillboxes and any category of tanks (Light, Medium, Heavy) and other AI ground targets. However, be wary of the compression and do not get greedy while going after targets.
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 == History ==
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-The Vautour IIN was a two-seat, all-weather interceptor variant of [[S.O.4050 Vautour IIA|Vautour IIA]] with radar, and armed with cannons, air-to-air missiles, and unguided rockets. It was operated by the "Bat" squadron out of Tel Nof Airbase, until the arrival of the [[Shahak|Mirage IIIC]], when they were handed over to the "Knights of the Heart" division at Ramat David Airbase. The Vautour was used as aerial reconnaissance and night interceptors during the Six-Day War, as well as later in the 1960s. They were replaced by the [[A-4H (Israel)|A-4 Skyhawk]] and the [[F-4E Phantom II (Israel)|F4-E Phantom]]. The Vautour was retired in 1972, with the "Knights of the Heart" division replacing them with the Skyhawk.
+The Vautour IIN was a two-seat, all-weather interceptor variant of [[S.O.4050 Vautour IIA|Vautour IIA]] with radar, and armed with cannons, air-to-air missiles, and unguided rockets. It was operated by the "Bat" squadron out of Tel Nof Airbase, until the arrival of the [[Shahak|Mirage IIIC]], when they were handed over to the "Knights of the Heart" division at Ramat David Airbase. The Vautour was used as aerial reconnaissance and night interceptors during the Six-Day War, as well as later in the 1960s. They were replaced by the [[Ayit|A-4 Skyhawk]] and the [[Kurnass|F4-E Phantom]]. The Vautour was retired in 1972, with the "Knights of the Heart" division replacing them with the Skyhawk.
 == Media ==

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 ! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
 |-
-| colspan="2" | SNECMA Atar 101E3 || 2
+| colspan="2" | SNECMA Atar 101E5 || 2
-| colspan="2" | 11,121 kg || colspan="2" | 318 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
+| colspan="2" | 11,211 kg || colspan="2" | 320 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
 |-
 ! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
-! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br>Weight
+! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | {{Annotation|Max Gross<br>Weight|Mass of the fully equipped aircraft with heaviest weapons load}}
 |-
 ! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
-! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 27m fuel
+! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 26m fuel
 |-
 | 950 kg || colspan="2" | Axial-flow turbojet
-| 12,076 kg || 13,462 kg || 14,303 kg || 21,000 kg
+| 12,166 kg || 13,573 kg || 14,393 kg || 18,480 kg
 |-
 ! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
-! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
+! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (110%)
 |-
-! Condition || 100% || WEP
+! Condition || 100% || 110%
-! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 27m fuel || MTOW
+! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 26m fuel || MGW
 |-
-| ''Stationary'' || 3,293 kgf || N/A
+| ''Stationary'' || 3,322 kgf || 3,787 kgf
-| 0.55 || 0.49 || 0.46 || 0.31
+| 0.62 || 0.56 || 0.53 || 0.41
 |-
-| ''Optimal'' || 3,628 kgf<br>(1,166 km/h) || N/A
+| ''Optimal'' || 3,661 kgf<br>(1,166 km/h) || 4,173 kgf<br>(1,166 km/h)
-| 0.60 || 0.54 || 0.51 || 0.35
+| 0.69 || 0.61 || 0.58 || 0.45
 |-
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 [[File:Armour Vautour IIN (Israel).png|thumb|right|300px|13.5 mm plates in both the front and rear of the pilots]]
 The Vautour IIN has a respectable amount of armour around the pilots. In front of the forward-most pilot houses a 50 mm bulletproof glass pane and 2 steel plates (13.5 mm and 6 mm) sandwiched together to protect the pilot's lower body. In addition, both crew members sit in a 3 mm steel "bathtub" encasing most of the crew's body. The rear pilot has rearward protection with another 13.5 mm steel plate covering the back of his head. Lastly, there are 2 x 2 mm steel plates in the rear of the aircraft. There is no armour protecting the engines, so they are very prone to damage. Like many planes at this battle rating, the Vautour also has self-sealing fuel tanks.
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 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
-* 4 x 30 mm DEFA 551 cannons, -mounted (100 rpg = 400 total)
+* 4 x 30 mm DEFA 551 cannons, nose-mounted (100 rpg = 400 total)
 === Suspended armament ===
 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-{{main|100/50 kg G.P. (100 kg)|250/50 kg G.P. (250 kg)|360/50 kg G.P. (360 kg)|500/50 kg G.P. (500 kg)|Shafrir|SNEB type 23|T10 140}}
+{{main|100/50 kg G.P. (100 kg)|250/50 kg G.P. (250 kg)|360/50 kg G.P. (360 kg)|500/50 kg G.P. (500 kg)}}
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:
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 * 4 x Shafrir missiles
 * 24 x T10 140 rockets
 * 76 x SNEB type 23 rockets
 * 112 x SNEB type 23 rockets
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 ! T10 140 rockets
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 '''Air Realistic Battles'''
-The Vautour IIN, being a jet bomber, doesn't lend itself very well to any sort of dogfight against its adversaries. The compression, handling, and overall sluggish nature of the IIN make it a very hard plane to focus solely on enemy fighters. It's best to use it as a support fighter: picking off enemies that are distracted or other attackers/bombers who aren't as maneuverable as fighters. The IIN also gets access to four [[Shafrir|Shafrir 1's]], which can be used to force enemies to turn, destroy other bombers and get AI planes. The four DEFA 30-millimeter cannons can easily shred planes apart in a tiny burst. Unlike its predecessor, the Vautour IIA, the IIN has a very capable radar complete with IFF that makes spotting planes out of visual range much easier.
+The Vautour IIN, being a jet bomber, doesn't lend itself very well to any sort of dogfight against its adversaries. The compression, handling, and overall sluggish nature of the IIN make it a very hard plane to focus solely on enemy fighters. It's best to use it as a support fighter: picking off enemies that are distracted or other attackers/bombers who aren't as manoeuvrable as fighters. The IIN also gets access to four [[Shafrir|Shafrir 1's]], which can be used to force enemies to turn, destroy other bombers and get AI planes. The four DEFA 30 mm cannons can easily shred planes apart in a tiny burst. Unlike its predecessor, the Vautour IIA, the IIN has a very capable radar complete with IFF that makes spotting planes out of visual range much easier.
 If going after planes is difficult in the Vautour IIN, it can also access bombs and rockets. A loadout with rockets and bombs can prove to be very efficient in draining the enemy team's tickets. In addition, the armored target belt can very easily destroy light pillboxes and any category of tanks (Light, Medium, Heavy) and other AI ground targets. However, be wary of the compression and do not get greedy while going after targets.
-At a battle rating of 9.0, there are many noteworthy adversaries. Uptiers to 10.0/9.7 are very common, which means you will see [[Su-25|Su-25s]] with [[R-60M|R-60Ms]], [[A-10A Late|A-10s]] with [[AIM-9L_Sidewinder|AIM-9Ls]], and other planes with very maneuverable missiles. Furthermore, your main advantage, speed, will be nullified by planes like the [[MiG-19_(Family)|MiG-19]], [[F-100_(Family)|F-100]], [[MiG-21_(Family)|MiG-21]], and more. To stay effective during the match, it's best to side-climb and stay out of the way of many of these dangerous foes. In downtiers, many planes are slower than the Vautour, which allows the Vautour to utilize its speed to run away and stay safe. Your main opponents in a downtier will be many other similar BR planes like the [[MiG-17AS]] and the [[Sea Vixen F.A.W. Mk.2|Sea Vixen]] which are both fast and use missiles.
+At a battle rating of 9.0, there are many noteworthy adversaries. Uptiers to 10.0/9.7 are very common, which means you will see [[Su-25|Su-25s]] with [[R-60M|R-60Ms]], [[A-10A Late|A-10s]] with [[AIM-9L_Sidewinder|AIM-9Ls]], and other planes with very manoeuvrable missiles. Furthermore, your main advantage, speed, will be nullified by planes like the [[MiG-19_(Family)|MiG-19]], [[F-100_(Family)|F-100]], [[MiG-21_(Family)|MiG-21]], and more. To stay effective during the match, it's best to side-climb and stay out of the way of many of these dangerous foes. In downtiers, many planes are slower than the Vautour, which allows the Vautour to utilize its speed to run away and stay safe. Your main opponents in a downtier will be many other similar BR planes like the [[MiG-17AS]] and the [[Sea Vixen F.A.W. Mk.2|Sea Vixen]] which are both fast and use missiles.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 * Fast (1000+ km/h / 625 mph)
 * Good bomb load and rockets
-* 4 hard-hitting DEFA 30 millimeter cannons
+* 4 hard-hitting DEFA 30 mm cannons
 * Able to hold 4 Shafrir air-to-air missiles
 * Good energy retention

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 * 4 hard-hitting DEFA 30 millimeter cannons
 * Able to hold 4 Shafrir air-to-air missiles
 '''Cons:'''
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 * Sluggish handling
 * Can constantly be uptiered
 == History ==

Vautour IIN (Israel) - Revision history

U44629479: /* Media */ Added skins

U38088265: /* Suspended armament */ Reformatted

U120313908: /* Description */Uptaded to new Standards /* Flight performance */Expanded /* Armament */Expanded /* Modifications and Economy */Added recommendations for players

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U48664895: /* Pros and cons */ Added a few cons and pros

U120313908: /* Description /Uptaded to new Standards / Flight performance /Expanded / Armament /Expanded / Modifications and Economy */Added recommendations for players