User talk:U38088265 - Revision history

U168221799: reply

2024-03-15T15:44:08Z

U38088265: /* revertion of my edit to Pz.II C and Pz.II C (DAK) */ Response

2024-03-15T14:20:14Z

‎revertion of my edit to Pz.II C and Pz.II C (DAK): Response

U168221799: formatting

2024-03-15T12:33:34Z

formatting

U168221799: edit to reply - added another example & sentence

2024-03-15T12:32:39Z

edit to reply - added another example & sentence

U168221799: reply

2024-03-15T12:15:13Z

U38088265: /* revertion of my edit to Pz.II C and Pz.II C (DAK) */ Response

2024-03-15T10:44:03Z

‎revertion of my edit to Pz.II C and Pz.II C (DAK): Response

U168221799: added name and timestamp, thought it does it automatically

2024-03-15T09:49:22Z

added name and timestamp, thought it does it automatically

U168221799: /* revertion of my edit to Pz.II C and Pz.II C (DAK) */ new section

2024-03-15T09:45:34Z

‎revertion of my edit to Pz.II C and Pz.II C (DAK): new section

U30821137: /* Radar Warning receiver */

2023-09-30T18:02:45Z

‎Radar Warning receiver

U30821137: /* Radar Warning receiver */ new section

2023-09-30T08:35:16Z

‎Radar Warning receiver: new section

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 - kiyoakiwah, 12:14, 15th March 2024 (GMT)
 : We use "[ammo] racks" to refer to sets of shells in proximity that can be sensibly grouped as a single entity based on their order of disappearance, the groupings of which are indicated by the accompanying image. This often but does not always coincide with any modelling of "physical" shell storage in the x-ray view (i.e. metal bands, wet containers, carousels, etc), as in some cases ammo depletion may be modelled in such a way that, for example, half of a physical rack is used up and then it switches to another rack on the other side of the tank before returning to finish emptying the rack.
 : I don't have any statistics on how many vehicles have individual shells modelled rather than entire racks or sets of 2/4/etc, but I think it is reasonably common, to the point that it is essentially our de facto default state, and generally only exceptions (non-individual shells) are noted in text. You can see for yourself any vehicle's model system by seeing how many shells are highlighted when you hover over one of them in x-ray. In general, I think newer (in terms of addition to the game) vehicles and refreshed models tend to have shells modelled individually.
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 : As a side note, you can add a signature by inserting <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code> (four tildes), which will be automatically expanded on saving to show your username and the timestamp.
 : - [[User:U38088265|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265|talk]]) 14:20, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

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	- kiyoakiwah, 12:14, 15th March 2024 (GMT)		- kiyoakiwah, 12:14, 15th March 2024 (GMT)
		+	: We use "[ammo] racks" to refer to sets of shells in proximity that can be sensibly grouped as a single entity based on their order of disappearance, the groupings of which are indicated by the accompanying image. This often but does not always coincide with any modelling of "physical" shell storage in the x-ray view (i.e. metal bands, wet containers, carousels, etc), as in some cases ammo depletion may be modelled in such a way that, for example, half of a physical rack is used up and then it switches to another rack on the other side of the tank before returning to finish emptying the rack.
		+	: I don't have any statistics on how many vehicles have individual shells modelled rather than entire racks or sets of 2/4/etc, but I think it is reasonably common, to the point that it is essentially our de facto default state, and generally only exceptions (non-individual shells) are noted in text. You can see for yourself any vehicle's model system by seeing how many shells are highlighted when you hover over one of them in x-ray. In general, I think newer (in terms of addition to the game) vehicles and refreshed models tend to have shells modelled individually.
		+	: As far as I am aware, there are no cases where the shell storage disappears along with the shells. The Pz.35(t) is not a good example, because it does not have a shell storage system visible in x-ray to begin with; the shells might as well be free-floating. If you do find examples on the contrary (where the bands etc disappear along with the shells), feel free to let me know.
		+	: The sentence can certainly be rephrased and clarified.
		+	: As a side note, you can add a signature by inserting <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code> (four tildes), which will be automatically expanded on saving to show your username and the timestamp.
		+	: - [[User:U38088265\|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265\|talk]]) 14:20, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

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 https://wiki.warthunder.com/Pz.35(t)#Ammo_racks - example of racks completely disappearing after being emptied
 https://wiki.warthunder.com/15cm_sIG_33_B_Sfl#Ammo_racks - example of a tank (destroyer) for which shells disappear individually
 https://wiki.warthunder.com/Pz.III_F#Ammo_racks - redundant example of a tank for which the shells in the rack do not update for every shot

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 https://wiki.warthunder.com/Pz.35(t)#Ammo_racks - example of racks completely disappearing after being emptied
 https://wiki.warthunder.com/15cm_sIG_33_B_Sfl#Ammo_racks - example of a tank (destroyer) for which shells disappear individually
 - kiyoakiwah, 12:14, 15th March 2024 (GMT)

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	- kiyoakiwah, 09:48, 15th March 2024 (GMT)		- kiyoakiwah, 09:48, 15th March 2024 (GMT)
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	: Hi, thanks for reaching out. I would understand the "racks" in "racks disappear" to mean the 4/8 magazines in each ammo rack in this context, rather than the little metal bands (which is what I am assuming you refer to). In this case, "[Ammo] Racks disappear after you've fired all magazines in the rack" indicates that the entire ammo rack must be emptied before anything in the rack disappears (as opposed to magazines/shells disappearing individually or in sets as they are fired). I am also confident that this was the original intention of the sentence, as mentioning if/when the metal band disappears has very little relevance to the gameplay of the vehicle. - [[User:U38088265\|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265\|talk]]) 10:43, 15 March 2024 (UTC)		: Hi, thanks for reaching out. I would understand the "racks" in "racks disappear" to mean the 4/8 magazines in each ammo rack in this context, rather than the little metal bands (which is what I am assuming you refer to). In this case, "[Ammo] Racks disappear after you've fired all magazines in the rack" indicates that the entire ammo rack must be emptied before anything in the rack disappears (as opposed to magazines/shells disappearing individually or in sets as they are fired). I am also confident that this was the original intention of the sentence, as mentioning if/when the metal band disappears has very little relevance to the gameplay of the vehicle. - [[User:U38088265\|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265\|talk]]) 10:43, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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		+	i think there's been a misunderstanding, the racks exclusively refer to the container of the shells/magazines (here - the little metal band) and individual ammo is just referred to normally? as far i know, most of the tanks in game (atleast at the start, i'm pretty new) will not update individual shells/magazines rather everything will disappear from the rack after it has been 'emptied'. so you could be on the last shell in the rack, however it will still show as being full. no wiki page i've seen has specifically detailed whether ammunition updates on a single shell/mag basis, however there are instances in the game where the container of the shells (the rack) will disappear - and it's probably there to highlight the visual discrepency with the rack itself (different from the visual discrepency in the table, which is for when the amount of ammunition in the rack doesn't line up with what's modelled.)
		+	[[File:Pz. 35 (t) missing ammo rack.png\|thumb\|gone]]
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		+	https://wiki.warthunder.com/Pz.35(t)#Ammo_racks - example of racks completely disappearing after being emptied
		+	https://wiki.warthunder.com/15cm_sIG_33_B_Sfl#Ammo_racks - example of a tank (destroyer) for which shells disappear individually
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		+	- kiyoakiwah, 12:14, 15th March 2024 (GMT)

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	- kiyoakiwah, 09:48, 15th March 2024 (GMT)		- kiyoakiwah, 09:48, 15th March 2024 (GMT)
		+	: Hi, thanks for reaching out. I would understand the "racks" in "racks disappear" to mean the 4/8 magazines in each ammo rack in this context, rather than the little metal bands (which is what I am assuming you refer to). In this case, "[Ammo] Racks disappear after you've fired all magazines in the rack" indicates that the entire ammo rack must be emptied before anything in the rack disappears (as opposed to magazines/shells disappearing individually or in sets as they are fired). I am also confident that this was the original intention of the sentence, as mentioning if/when the metal band disappears has very little relevance to the gameplay of the vehicle. - [[User:U38088265\|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265\|talk]]) 10:43, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

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	if i'm somehow incorrect - which i don't seem to be as they're still there, please clarify further; if i don't hear anything back and the revert remains i'll undo it myself in a weeks time.		if i'm somehow incorrect - which i don't seem to be as they're still there, please clarify further; if i don't hear anything back and the revert remains i'll undo it myself in a weeks time.
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		+	- kiyoakiwah, 09:48, 15th March 2024 (GMT)

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	Wow you already added all. Do you know what bands radars actually use? i found a website where many bands are actually communication or something like that? do radars in WT use all the possible bands? or if a RWR can see radio communication its not implemented ingame?		Wow you already added all. Do you know what bands radars actually use? i found a website where many bands are actually communication or something like that? do radars in WT use all the possible bands? or if a RWR can see radio communication its not implemented ingame?
	--[[User:U30821137\|U30821137]] ([[User talk:U30821137\|talk]]) 18:02, 30 September 2023 (UTC)		--[[User:U30821137\|U30821137]] ([[User talk:U30821137\|talk]]) 18:02, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
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		+	== revertion of my edit to Pz.II C and Pz.II C (DAK) ==
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		+	i removed the line "Racks disappear after you've fired all magazines in the rack." as i checked and they still remain when ammo is empty.
		+	[[File:Pz.II C (DAK) ammo racks full.png\|thumb\|full]]
		+	[[File:PZ. II C (DAK) ammo racks empty.png\|thumb\|empty]]
		+	refer to the images on the right and undo your revert please, and next time check before undo-ing something.
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		+	if i'm somehow incorrect - which i don't seem to be as they're still there, please clarify further; if i don't hear anything back and the revert remains i'll undo it myself in a weeks time.

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	the problem is it takes very much space, so we need to find a way to make it smaller i guess?		the problem is it takes very much space, so we need to find a way to make it smaller i guess?
	--[[User:U30821137\|U30821137]] ([[User talk:U30821137\|talk]]) 08:35, 30 September 2023 (UTC)		--[[User:U30821137\|U30821137]] ([[User talk:U30821137\|talk]]) 08:35, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
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		+	Wow you already added all. Do you know what bands radars actually use? i found a website where many bands are actually communication or something like that? do radars in WT use all the possible bands? or if a RWR can see radio communication its not implemented ingame?
		+	--[[User:U30821137\|U30821137]] ([[User talk:U30821137\|talk]]) 18:02, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

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	: The gun is named the 105 mm Mavag 40/43M in-game. If you believe this to be incorrect, please submit a bug report on the [https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder official Community Bug Reporting website].		: The gun is named the 105 mm Mavag 40/43M in-game. If you believe this to be incorrect, please submit a bug report on the [https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder official Community Bug Reporting website].
	: Many thanks, [[User:U38088265\|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265\|talk]]) 23:16, 27 September 2023 (UTC)		: Many thanks, [[User:U38088265\|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265\|talk]]) 23:16, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
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		+	== Radar Warning receiver ==
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		+	Hi, do you think adding information about which radar uses which bands is useful? so you can figure out which radars are covered by which rwr?
		+	i made a example here https://wiki.warthunder.com/User:U30821137
		+	the problem is it takes very much space, so we need to find a way to make it smaller i guess?
		+	--[[User:U30821137\|U30821137]] ([[User talk:U30821137\|talk]]) 08:35, 30 September 2023 (UTC)