User:U12017485/Navy Shells - Revision history

U12017485: Added /* Data comparison of an individual shells */

2024-11-03T19:54:45Z

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U12017485: /* Drachinifel's Historic Naval Gun Ranking */ Linked 410 mm/45 Type 3 (410 mm) and 36 cm/45 Type 41 (356 mm)

2024-08-28T20:07:57Z

‎Drachinifel's Historic Naval Gun Ranking: Linked 410 mm/45 Type 3 (410 mm) and 36 cm/45 Type 41 (356 mm)

U12017485: /* Drachinifel's Historic Naval Gun Ranking */ Linked french guns

2024-03-01T08:56:04Z

‎Drachinifel's Historic Naval Gun Ranking: Linked french guns

U12017485: Linked 320 mm Mod. 36

2023-05-02T12:22:32Z

Linked 320 mm Mod. 36

U12017485: Added French, removed one Japanese (with an identical value to the sister gun)

2023-03-13T18:37:46Z

Added French, removed one Japanese (with an identical value to the sister gun)

U12017485: Linked Deutschland-class' guns

2023-03-01T18:53:02Z

Linked Deutschland-class' guns

U12017485: Added /* Drachinifel's Historic Naval Gun Ranking */

2023-03-01T18:50:52Z

Added ‎Drachinifel's Historic Naval Gun Ranking

U12017485: Added HE graph

2023-02-15T19:15:16Z

Added HE graph

U12017485: Moved to a separate page in order to fix the "Maximum number of loops have been performed" error message.

2023-02-15T11:20:41Z

Moved to a separate page in order to fix the "Maximum number of loops have been performed" error message.

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This page is showing the list of the key calibres in inches into a common units and related penetration of some of the naval shells in roughly the same calibre. This table is meant to give you a rough idea of how much protection does the ship armor give at a typical combat ranges. Going by inches as a base puts some nations in a disadvantage in terms of a number of entries in the table (notably Germans).
=== AP ===
Note: A number of guns (notably Japanese) use SAP instead of AP ammunition for the same purpose. 30° @ 5000m was selected to illustrate real ranges and hit angles. While not universal (e.g. ≥12" guns rarely shoot at targets so close) it should give you a rough idea about the performance for the shells boiled down to a single number.
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! inch
! mm official
! mm SI calculated
! style="width: 300px;" | Penetration @ 30° @ 5000m
! style="width: 300px;" | TNT equivalent (kg)
|-
| 3
|| 76
|| {{#expr: 3 * 25.4 round 2}}
|| <div style="position: relative; margin: -19px 25px 0 0; height: 19px;">{{User:U12017485/RangeChart
|30|[[File:USA flag.png|25x25px|link=3-inch Mark 10 (76 mm)|30mm - 3-inch Mark 10 (76 mm)]]
|37|[[File:USA flag.png|25x25px|link=3-inch Mk.34 (76 mm)|37mm - 3-inch Mk.34 (76 mm)]]
|39|[[File:USSR flag.png|25x25px|link=34-K (76 mm)|37mm - 34-K (76 mm) with BR-361]]
|33|[[File:USSR flag.png|25x25px|link=D-56TS (76 mm)|37mm - D-56TS (76 mm) with BR-354]]
}}
</div>
<div style="position: relative; margin: 0 25px 0 0;">
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 0%; font-size: 60%">30mm</div>
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 100%; font-size: 60%">37mm</div>
</div>
|| <div style="position: relative; margin: -19px 25px 0 0; height: 19px;">{{User:U12017485/RangeChart
|0.13|[[File:USA flag.png|25x25px|link=3-inch Mark 10 (76 mm)|0.13kg - 3-inch Mark 10 (76 mm)]]
|0.06|[[File:USA flag.png|25x25px|link=3-inch Mk.34 (76 mm)|0.06kg - 3-inch Mk.34 (76 mm)]]
|0.12|[[File:USSR flag.png|25x25px|link=34-K (76 mm)|0.12kg - 34-K (76 mm) with BR-361]]
|0.05|[[File:USSR flag.png|25x25px|link=D-56TS (76 mm)|0.05kg - D-56TS (76 mm) with BR-354]]
}}
</div>
<div style="position: relative; margin: 0 25px 0 0;">
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 0%; font-size: 60%">0.06kg</div>
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 100%; font-size: 60%">0.13kg</div>
</div>
|-
| 4
|| 102
|| {{#expr: 4 * 25.4 round 2}}
|| –
|| –
|-
| 5 || 127 || {{#expr: 5 * 25.4 round 2}} || <div style="position: relative; margin: -19px 25px 0 0; height: 19px;">{{User:U12017485/RangeChart
|93|[[File:USA flag.png|25x25px|link=5 inch/51 Mk.7 (127 mm)|93mm - 5 inch/51 Mk.7 (127 mm)]]
|86|[[File:Kingdom Italy flag.png|25x25px|link=120 mm/50 O.T.O. Mod.1936 (120 mm)|86mm - 120 mm/50 O.T.O. Mod.1936 (120 mm)]]
|73|[[File:Kingdom Italy flag.png|25x25px|link=120 mm/45 Canet-Schneider-Armstrong mod.1918-19 (120 mm)|73mm - 120 mm/45 Canet-Schneider-Armstrong mod.1918-19 (120 mm)]]
}}
</div>
<div style="position: relative; margin: 0 25px 0 0;">
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 0%; font-size: 60%">93mm</div>
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 100%; font-size: 60%">86mm</div>
</div>
|| <div style="position: relative; margin: -19px 25px 0 0; height: 19px;">{{User:U12017485/RangeChart
|0.77|[[File:USA flag.png|25x25px|link=5 inch/51 Mk.7 (127 mm)|0.77kg - 5 inch/51 Mk.7 (127 mm)]]
|1.3|[[File:Kingdom Italy flag.png|25x25px|link=120 mm/50 O.T.O. Mod.1936 (120 mm)|1.3kg - 120 mm/50 O.T.O. Mod.1936 (120 mm)]]
|1.16|[[File:Kingdom Italy flag.png|25x25px|link=120 mm/45 Canet-Schneider-Armstrong mod.1918-19 (120 mm)|1.16kg - 120 mm/45 Canet-Schneider-Armstrong mod.1918-19 (120 mm)]]
}}
</div>
<div style="position: relative; margin: 0 25px 0 0;">
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 0%; font-size: 60%">0.77kg</div>
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 100%; font-size: 60%">1.30kg</div>
</div>
|-
| 6 || 152 || {{#expr: 6 * 25.4 round 2}} || <div style="position: relative; margin: -19px 25px 0 0; height: 19px;">{{User:U12017485/RangeChart
|100|[[File:IJN flag.png|25x25px|link=6-inch/45 Type 41 (152 mm)|100mm - 6-inch/45 Type 41 (152 mm)]]
|145|[[File:USA flag.png|25x25px|link=6 inch/47 Mk.16 (152 mm)|145mm - 6 inch/47 Mk.16 (152 mm)]]
|146|[[File:Kingdom Italy flag.png|25x25px|link=152/53 mm O.T.O. Mod.1929 (152 mm)|146mm - 152/53 mm O.T.O. Mod.1929 (152 mm)]]
|156|[[File:Kingdom Italy flag.png|25x25px|link=152/55 mm Ansaldo Mod.1934 (152 mm)|156mm - 152/55 mm Ansaldo Mod.1934 (152 mm)]]
|158|[[File:Britain flag.png|25x25px|link=6 inch/50 QF Mark N5 (152 mm)|158mm - 6 inch/50 QF Mark N5 (152 mm)]]
|177|[[File:USSR flag.png|25x25px|link=152 mm/57 B-38 (152 mm)|177mm - 152 mm/57 B-38 (152 mm)]]
}}
</div>
<div style="position: relative; margin: 0 30px 0 0;">
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 0%; font-size: 60%">100mm</div>
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 100%; font-size: 60%">177mm</div>
</div>
|| <div style="position: relative; margin: -19px 25px 0 0; height: 19px;">{{User:U12017485/RangeChart
|1.88|[[File:IJN flag.png|25x25px|link=6-inch/45 Type 41 (152 mm)|1.88kg - 6-inch/45 Type 41 (152 mm)]]
|0.9|[[File:USA flag.png|25x25px|link=6 inch/47 Mk.16 (152 mm)|0.9kg - 6 inch/47 Mk.16 (152 mm)]]
|0.8|[[File:Kingdom Italy flag.png|25x25px|link=152/53 mm O.T.O. Mod.1929 (152 mm)|0.8kg - 152/53 mm O.T.O. Mod.1929 (152 mm)]]
|0.84|[[File:Kingdom Italy flag.png|25x25px|link=152/55 mm Ansaldo Mod.1934 (152 mm)|0.84 - 152/55 mm Ansaldo Mod.1934 (152 mm)]]
|0.88|[[File:Britain flag.png|25x25px|link=6 inch/50 QF Mark N5 (152 mm)|0.88kg - 6 inch/50 QF Mark N5 (152 mm)]]
|1.69|[[File:USSR flag.png|25x25px|link=152 mm/57 B-38 (152 mm)|1.69kg - 152 mm/57 B-38 (152 mm)]]
}}
</div>
<div style="position: relative; margin: 0 30px 0 0;">
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 0%; font-size: 60%">0.80kg</div>
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 100%; font-size: 60%">1.88kg</div>
</div>
|-
| 8 || 203 || {{#expr: 8 * 25.4 round 2}} || <div style="position: relative; margin: -19px 25px 0 0; height: 19px;">{{User:U12017485/RangeChart
|214|[[File:Kingdom Italy flag.png|25x25px|link=203 mm/50 Ansaldo mod.1924 (203 mm)|214mm - 203 mm/50 Ansaldo mod.1924 (203 mm)]]
|218|[[File:USA flag.png|25x25px|link=8 inch/55 Mark 9 (203 mm)|218mm - 8 inch/55 Mark 9 (203 mm)]]
|227|[[File:Britain flag.png|25x25px|link=8 inch/55 Mark 12 (203 mm)|227mm - 8 inch/55 Mark 12 (203 mm)]]
|247|[[File:Germany flag.png|25x25px|link=20.3 cm/60 SK C/34 (203 mm)|227mm - 20.3 cm/60 SK C/34 (203 mm)]]
}}
</div>
<div style="position: relative; margin: 0 30px 0 0;">
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 0%; font-size: 60%">214mm</div>
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 100%; font-size: 60%">247mm</div>
</div>
|| <div style="position: relative; margin: -19px 25px 0 0; height: 19px;">{{User:U12017485/RangeChart
|3.16|[[File:Kingdom Italy flag.png|25x25px|link=203 mm/50 Ansaldo mod.1924 (203 mm)|3.16kg - 203 mm/50 Ansaldo mod.1924 (203 mm)]]
|1.62|[[File:USA flag.png|25x25px|link=8 inch/55 Mark 9 (203 mm)|1.62kg - 8 inch/55 Mark 9 (203 mm)]]
|2.21|[[File:Britain flag.png|25x25px|link=8 inch/55 Mark 12 (203 mm)|2.21kg - 8 inch/55 Mark 12 (203 mm)]]
|2.65|[[File:Germany flag.png|25x25px|link=20.3 cm/60 SK C/34 (203 mm)|2.65kg - 20.3 cm/60 SK C/34 (203 mm)]]
}}
</div>
<div style="position: relative; margin: 0 30px 0 0;">
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 0%; font-size: 60%">1.62kg</div>
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 100%; font-size: 60%">3.16kg</div>
</div>
|-
| 12 || 305 || {{#expr: 12 * 25.4 round 2}} || <div style="position: relative; margin: -19px 25px 0 0; height: 19px;">{{User:U12017485/RangeChart
|315|[[File:USSR flag.png|25x25px|link=12-inch/52 pattern 1907 (305 mm)|315mm - 12-inch/52 pattern 1907 (305 mm)]]
|316|[[File:IJN flag.png|25x25px|link=12-inch/50 Vickers (305 mm)|316mm - 12-inch/50 Vickers (305 mm)]]
|275|[[File:IJN flag.png|25x25px|link=12-inch/45 Vickers (305 mm)|275mm - 12-inch/45 Vickers (305 mm)]]
|328|[[File:USA flag.png|25x25px|link=12 inch/50 Mk.7 (305 mm)|328mm - 12 inch/50 Mk.7 (305 mm)]]
|286|[[File:Britain flag.png|25x25px|link=305 mm/45 Mark X (305 mm)|286mm - 305 mm/45 Mark X (305 mm)]]
|419|[[File:USSR flag.png|25x25px|link=305 mm/54 B-50 (305 mm)|419mm - 305 mm/54 B-50 (305 mm)]]
|304|[[File:Germany flag.png|25x25px|link=305 mm/50 SK L/50 (305 mm)|304mm - 305 mm/50 SK L/50 (305 mm)]]
|405|[[File:Kingdom Italy flag.png|25x25px|link=305 mm/46 Vickers model 1909 (305 mm)|405mm - 305 mm/46 Vickers model 1909 (305 mm)]]
}}
</div>
<div style="position: relative; margin: 0 30px 0 0;">
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 0%; font-size: 60%">275mm</div>
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 100%; font-size: 60%">419mm</div>
</div>
|| <div style="position: relative; margin: -19px 25px 0 0; height: 19px;">{{User:U12017485/RangeChart
|12.96|[[File:USSR flag.png|25x25px|link=12-inch/52 pattern 1907 (305 mm)|12.96kg - 12-inch/52 pattern 1907 (305 mm)]]
|13.64|[[File:IJN flag.png|25x25px|link=12-inch/50 Vickers (305 mm)|13.64kg - 12-inch/50 Vickers (305 mm)]]
|13.64|[[File:IJN flag.png|25x25px|link=12-inch/45 Vickers (305 mm)|13.64kg - 12-inch/45 Vickers (305 mm)]]
|11.11|[[File:USA flag.png|25x25px|link=12 inch/50 Mk.7 (305 mm)|11.11kg - 12 inch/50 Mk.7 (305 mm)]]
|13.64|[[File:Britain flag.png|25x25px|link=305 mm/45 Mark X (305 mm)|13.64kg - 305 mm/45 Mark X (305 mm)]]
|18.79|[[File:USSR flag.png|25x25px|link=305 mm/54 B-50 (305 mm)|18.79kg - 305 mm/54 B-50 (305 mm)]]
|10.8|[[File:Germany flag.png|25x25px|link=305 mm/50 SK L/50 (305 mm)|10.8kg - 305 mm/50 SK L/50 (305 mm)]]
|5.66|[[File:Kingdom Italy flag.png|25x25px|link=305 mm/46 Vickers model 1909 (305 mm)|5.66kg - 305 mm/46 Vickers model 1909 (305 mm)]]
|min=5.66
}}
</div>
<div style="position: relative; margin: 0 30px 0 0;">
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 0%; font-size: 60%">5.66kg</div>
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 100%; font-size: 60%">18.79kg</div>
</div>
|-
| 14 || 356 || {{#expr: 14 * 25.4 round 2}} || <div style="position: relative; margin: -19px 25px 0 0; height: 19px;">{{User:U12017485/RangeChart
|415|[[File:IJN flag.png|25x25px|link=36 cm/45 Type 41 (356 mm)|415mm - 36 cm/45 Type 41 (356 mm) with Type 91 APC]]
|420|[[File:USA flag.png|25x25px|link=12 inch/50 Mk.7 (305 mm)|420mm - 12 inch/50 Mk.7 (305 mm)]]
}}
</div>
<div style="position: relative; margin: 0 30px 0 0;">
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 0%; font-size: 60%">415mm</div>
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 100%; font-size: 60%">420mm</div>
</div>
|| <div style="position: relative; margin: -19px 25px 0 0; height: 19px;">{{User:U12017485/RangeChart
|12.21|[[File:IJN flag.png|25x25px|link=36 cm/45 Type 41 (356 mm)|12.21kg - 36 cm/45 Type 41 (356 mm) with Type 91 APC]]
|11.11|[[File:USA flag.png|25x25px|link=12 inch/50 Mk.7 (305 mm)|11.11kg - 12 inch/50 Mk.7 (305 mm)]]
}}
</div>
<div style="position: relative; margin: 0 30px 0 0;">
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 0%; font-size: 60%">11.11kg</div>
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 100%; font-size: 60%">12.21kg</div>
</div>
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| 15 || 381 || {{#expr: 15 * 25.4 round 2}} || <div style="position: relative; margin: -19px 25px 0 0; height: 19px;">{{User:U12017485/RangeChart
|390|[[File:Germany flag.png|25x25px|link=SK L/45 (380 mm)|390mm - SK L/45 (380 mm)]]
|416|[[File:Britain flag.png|25x25px|link=15 inch/42 BL Mark I (381 mm)|416mm - 15 inch/42 BL Mark I (381 mm)]]
}}
</div>
<div style="position: relative; margin: 0 30px 0 0;">
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 0%; font-size: 60%">390mm</div>
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 100%; font-size: 60%">416mm</div>
</div>
|| <div style="position: relative; margin: -19px 25px 0 0; height: 19px;">{{User:U12017485/RangeChart
|25|[[File:Germany flag.png|25x25px|link=SK L/45 (380 mm)|25kg - SK L/45 (380 mm)]]
|20.68|[[File:Britain flag.png|25x25px|link=15 inch/42 BL Mark I (381 mm)|20.68kg - 15 inch/42 BL Mark I (381 mm)]]
}}
</div>
<div style="position: relative; margin: 0 30px 0 0;">
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 0%; font-size: 60%">20.68kg</div>
<div style="position: absolute; top:2px; left: 100%; font-size: 60%">25kg</div>
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 <div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:France flag.png|25px|link=]] [[340 mm/45 model 1912 (340 mm)|34 cm/45 Model 1912 (340 mm)]]</div></div>
 <div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:USA flag.png|25px|link=]] [[14 inch/45 Mk.8 (356 mm)]]</div></div>
-<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:IJN flag.png|25px|link=]] 36 cm/45 Type 41 (356 mm)</div></div>
+<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:IJN flag.png|25px|link=]] [[36 cm/45 Type 41 (356 mm)]]</div></div>
 <div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:USA flag.png|25px|link=]] 16 inch/45 Mark 1 (406 mm)</div></div>
-<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:IJN flag.png|25px|link=]] 41 cm/45 3rd Year Type (410 mm)</div></div>
+<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:IJN flag.png|25px|link=]] [[410 mm/45 Type 3 (410 mm)|41 cm/45 3rd Year Type (410 mm)]]</div></div>
 <div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:Britain flag.png|25px|link=]] [[15 inch/42 BL Mark I (381 mm)]]</div></div>
 <div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:Britain flag.png|25px|link=]] 16 inch/45 Mark I (406 mm)</div></div>

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-<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:France flag.png|25px|link=]] 30 cm/45 Model 1906-1910 (300 mm)</div></div>
+<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:France flag.png|25px|link=]] [[305 mm/45 model 1906-10 (305 mm)|30 cm/45 Model 1906-1910 (305 mm)]]</div></div>
 <div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:USSR flag.png|25px|link=]][[12-inch/52 pattern 1907 (305 mm)]]</div></div>
 <div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:USA flag.png|25px|link=]] 12-inch/45 Mk.3/Mk.4 (305 mm)</div></div>
 <div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:USA flag.png|25px|link=]] 14 inch/45 Mk.1 - Mk.5 (356 mm)</div></div>
 <div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:Germany flag.png|25px|link=]] [[283 mm/52 SK C/28 (283 mm)]]</div></div>
-<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:France flag.png|25px|link=]] 34 cm/45 Model 1912 (340 mm)</div></div>
+<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:France flag.png|25px|link=]] [[340 mm/45 model 1912 (340 mm)|34 cm/45 Model 1912 (340 mm)]]</div></div>
 <div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:USA flag.png|25px|link=]] [[14 inch/45 Mk.8 (356 mm)]]</div></div>
 <div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:IJN flag.png|25px|link=]] 36 cm/45 Type 41 (356 mm)</div></div>

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-<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:Kingdom Italy flag.png|25px|link=]] 320 mm/46 Ansaldo model 1936 (320 mm)</div></div>
+<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:Kingdom Italy flag.png|25px|link=]] [[320 mm/44 Ansaldo model 1936 (320 mm)]]</div></div>
 <div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:Germany flag.png|25px|link=]][[283 mm/54,5 SK C/34 (283 mm)]]</div></div>
 <div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:USA flag.png|25px|link=]] [[12-inch/50 Mark 8 (305 mm)]]</div></div>

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 <div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:USA flag.png|25px|link=]] 12-inch/45 Mk.3/Mk.4 (305 mm)</div></div>
 <div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:USA flag.png|25px|link=]] 14 inch/45 Mk.1 - Mk.5 (356 mm)</div></div>
-<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:Germany flag.png|25px|link=]] 283 mm/52 SK C/28 (283 mm)</div></div>
+<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:Germany flag.png|25px|link=]] [[283 mm/52 SK C/28 (283 mm)]]</div></div>
 <div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:France flag.png|25px|link=]] 34 cm/45 Model 1912 (340 mm)</div></div>
 <div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:USA flag.png|25px|link=]] [[14 inch/45 Mk.8 (356 mm)]]</div></div>

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		+	== Drachinifel's Historic Naval Gun Ranking ==
		+	Battleship gun ranking system created by the British naval historian Alexander Clarke. It's meant to rank the real-world capabilities of various naval guns used as a primary batteries of battleships. It takes the following characteristics into account: rate of fire, weight of shell, range of the gun (as of WW2), Armor-Piercing capability (@20 000 yards), weight of the bursting charge, any special pros/cons.
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		+	===Pre-1930===
		+	<div style="display: inline-block; position: relative; width: auto;">
		+	<div style="border:0 solid black; border-left-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; display: flex; align-items: flex-end; position: relative; width: auto;">
		+	<p>
		+	</p>
		+	<div style="background-color: #94a4b0; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; height: 102px; display: flex;" title="3,3"></div>
		+	<div style="background-color: #94a4b0; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; height: 117px; display: flex;" title="3,8"></div>
		+	<div style="background-color: #94a4b0; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; height: 126px; display: flex;" title="4,1"></div>
		+	<div style="background-color: #94a4b0; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; height: 132px; display: flex;" title="4,3"></div>
		+	<div style="background-color: #94a4b0; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; height: 132px; display: flex;" title="4,3"></div>
		+	<div style="background-color: #94a4b0; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; height: 148px; display: flex;" title="4,8"></div>
		+	<div style="background-color: #94a4b0; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; height: 154px; display: flex;" title="5"></div>
		+	<div style="background-color: #94a4b0; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; height: 169px; display: flex;" title="5,5"></div>
		+	<div style="background-color: #94a4b0; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; height: 182px; display: flex;" title="5,9"></div>
		+	<div style="background-color: #94a4b0; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; height: 197px; display: flex;" title="6,4"></div>
		+	<div style="background-color: #94a4b0; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; height: 197px; display: flex;" title="6,4"></div>
		+	<div style="background-color: #94a4b0; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; height: 200px; display: flex;" title="6,5"></div>
		+	<div style="position: absolute;top: 0;right: 0;border-top:1px solid red;width: 1em;margin-right: -0.5em;"><div style="white-space: nowrap;position: absolute;top: -0.9em;left: 1.5em;">6,5/10</div></div>
		+	<div style="position: absolute; top: 100%; right: 0;border-top:1px solid red;width: 1em;margin-right: -0.5em;"><div style="white-space: nowrap;position: absolute;top: -0.9em;left: 1.5em;">0</div></div>
		+	</div><br>
		+	<div style="display: flex; position: relative;">
		+	<p>
		+	</p>
		+	<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:France flag.png\|25px\|link=]] 30 cm/45 Model 1906-1910 (300 mm)</div></div>
		+	<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:USSR flag.png\|25px\|link=]][[12-inch/52 pattern 1907 (305 mm)]]</div></div>
		+	<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:USA flag.png\|25px\|link=]] 12-inch/45 Mk.3/Mk.4 (305 mm)</div></div>
		+	<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:USA flag.png\|25px\|link=]] 14 inch/45 Mk.1 - Mk.5 (356 mm)</div></div>
		+	<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:Germany flag.png\|25px\|link=]] 283 mm/52 SK C/28 (283 mm)</div></div>
		+	<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:France flag.png\|25px\|link=]] 34 cm/45 Model 1912 (340 mm)</div></div>
		+	<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:USA flag.png\|25px\|link=]] [[14 inch/45 Mk.8 (356 mm)]]</div></div>
		+	<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:IJN flag.png\|25px\|link=]] 36 cm/45 Type 41 (356 mm)</div></div>
		+	<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:USA flag.png\|25px\|link=]] 16 inch/45 Mark 1 (406 mm)</div></div>
		+	<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:IJN flag.png\|25px\|link=]] 41 cm/45 3rd Year Type (410 mm)</div></div>
		+	<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:Britain flag.png\|25px\|link=]] [[15 inch/42 BL Mark I (381 mm)]]</div></div>
		+	<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:Britain flag.png\|25px\|link=]] 16 inch/45 Mark I (406 mm)</div></div>
		+	</div>
		+	</div>
		+
		+	===Post-1930===
		+	<div style="display: inline-block; position: relative; width: auto;">
		+	<div style="border:0 solid black; border-left-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; display: flex; align-items: flex-end; position: relative; width: auto;">
		+	<p>
		+	</p>
		+	<div style="background-color: #94a4b0; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; height: 65px; display: flex;" title="2,3"></div>
		+	<div style="background-color: #94a4b0; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; height: 101px; display: flex;" title="3,6"></div>
		+	<div style="background-color: #94a4b0; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; height: 110px; display: flex;" title="3,9"></div>
		+	<div style="background-color: #94a4b0; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; height: 132px; display: flex;" title="4,7"></div>
		+	<div style="background-color: #94a4b0; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; height: 132px; display: flex;" title="4,7"></div>
		+	<div style="background-color: #94a4b0; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; height: 135px; display: flex;" title="4,8"></div>
		+	<div style="background-color: #94a4b0; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; height: 141px; display: flex;" title="5"></div>
		+	<div style="background-color: #94a4b0; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; height: 144px; display: flex;" title="5,1"></div>
		+	<div style="background-color: #94a4b0; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; height: 144px; display: flex;" title="5,1"></div>
		+	<div style="background-color: #94a4b0; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; height: 155px; display: flex;" title="5,5"></div>
		+	<div style="background-color: #94a4b0; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; height: 166px; display: flex;" title="5,9"></div>
		+	<div style="background-color: #94a4b0; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; height: 200px; display: flex;" title="7,1"></div>
		+	<div style="position: absolute;top: 0;right: 0;border-top:1px solid red;width: 1em;margin-right: -0.5em;"><div style="white-space: nowrap;position: absolute;top: -0.9em;left: 1.5em;">7,1/10</div></div>
		+	<div style="position: absolute; top: 100%; right: 0;border-top:1px solid red;width: 1em;margin-right: -0.5em;"><div style="white-space: nowrap;position: absolute;top: -0.9em;left: 1.5em;">0</div></div>
		+	</div><br>
		+	<div style="display: flex; position: relative;">
		+	<p>
		+	</p>
		+	<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:Kingdom Italy flag.png\|25px\|link=]] 320 mm/46 Ansaldo model 1936 (320 mm)</div></div>
		+	<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:Germany flag.png\|25px\|link=]][[283 mm/54,5 SK C/34 (283 mm)]]</div></div>
		+	<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:USA flag.png\|25px\|link=]] [[12-inch/50 Mark 8 (305 mm)]]</div></div>
		+	<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:Britain flag.png\|25px\|link=]] 14-inch/45 Mark VII (356 mm)</div></div>
		+	<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:Britain flag.png\|25px\|link=]] [[15 inch/42 BL Mark I (381 mm)]]</div></div>
		+	<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:France flag.png\|link=\|25px]] 330 mm/50 model 1931 (330 mm)</div></div>
		+	<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:Kingdom Italy flag.png\|link=\|25px]] 381 mm/50 model 1934 (381 mm)</div></div>
		+	<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:Germany flag.png\|link=\|25px]] 38 cm/52 SK C/34 (380 mm)</div></div>
		+	<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:USA flag.png\|link=\|25px]] 16-inch/45 Mark 6 (406 mm)</div></div>
		+	<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:France flag.png\|link=\|25px]] 380 mm/45 model 1935 (380 mm)</div></div>
		+	<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:USA flag.png\|25px\|link=]] 16-inch/50 Mark 7 (406 mm)</div></div>
		+	<div style=""><div style="writing-mode: vertical-rl; width: 1.5em; margin-right: 0.2em; text-align: left;">[[File:IJN flag.png\|25px\|link=]] 40 cm/40 Type 94 (460 mm)</div></div>
		+	</div>
		+	</div>
		+	{{Notice
		+	\|Do not compare the score between pre-1930 and post-1930 guns. They are on a different scale. Each category (e.g. weight of the shell) is scored in relation to the rest of the group. Also pre-1930 scores use absolute range (which is largely a function of a turret) while post-1930 scores use a new, revised system where range is taken at the 20° gun elevation (reflecting more of a capability of the gun itself).
		+	\|!
		+	}}

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 |11.11|[[File:USA flag.png|25x25px|link=12 inch/50 Mk.7 (305 mm)|11.11kg - 12 inch/50 Mk.7 (305 mm)]]
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 |2.39|[[File:Kingdom Italy flag.png|25x25px|link=152/53 mm O.T.O. Mod.1929 (152 mm)|2.39kg - 152/53 mm O.T.O. Mod.1929 (152 mm)]]
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 This page is showing the list of the key calibres in inches into a common units and related penetration of some of the naval shells in roughly the same calibre. This table is meant to give you a rough idea of how much protection does the ship armor give at a typical combat ranges. Going by inches as a base puts some nations in a disadvantage in terms of a number of entries in the table (notably Germans).
 === AP ===
-Note: A number of guns (notably Japanese) use SAP instead of AP ammunition for the same purpose. 30° @ 5000m was selected to illustrate real ranges and hit angles. While not universal (e.g. ≥12" guns rarely shoot at targets so close) it should give you a rough idea about the performance for the shells boiled down to a single number.
+Note: A number of guns (notably Japanese) use SAP instead of AP ammunition for the same purpose, but they are '''not''' listed here. 30° @ 5000m was selected to illustrate real ranges and hit angles. While not universal (e.g. ≥12" guns rarely shoot at targets so close) it should give you a rough idea about the performance for the shells boiled down to a single number.
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