USS Helena - Revision history

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U44982996 at 00:23, 14 October 2023

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U31139476: Undo revision 166027 by U42858531 (talk)

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Undo revision 166027 by U42858531 (talk)

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 Located on the stern are two catapults with one SOC-1 scout plane each which provide unique offensive and defensive abilities, expanding tactical options. Ship-launched scout planes fly just like regular tree units but lack munition choices and cockpit views. Alongside the typical abilities of strafing, dropping 2 x 100 lb bombs, and capturing zones, the SOC-1 and other scout planes have the added ability to lay down smoke cover (up to 3 times). Captains will be wise to remember to utilise the aircraft and consider when best to use it, for example to cap a point early or late in the match, to create a smoke screen to stymie enemy bombardment and repair, to attack enemy units directly, or perhaps something completely new! With two scout planes one can risk a cap attempt at the beginning of the match, saving the second for any opportunity that presents itself.
 == Usage in battles ==
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 '''Cons:'''
 * AP shell have lacklustre penetration at longer ranges, thus limiting the damage output against heavily-armoured opponents
 * While well-protected, detonation of forward magazines will cause a chain reaction, potentially cause lethal damage

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the first part of the description, cover the history of the ship's creation and military application. In the second part, tell the reader about using this ship in the game. Add a screenshot: if a beginner player has a hard time remembering vehicles by name, a picture will help them identify the ship in question.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a Brooklyn-class light cruiser built as ninth and last ship. She was laid down on 9th December 1936 and comissioned on 18th September 1939. Her main armament was made of five triple 6 inch/47 Mk.16 cannons supplemented by four twin 5 inch/38 Mk.12 dual purpose cannons. Anti-aircraft protection was supplied by four quadruple 40 mm Bofors L/60 Mark 2 cannons and twelve 20 mm Oerlikon Mk. II autocannons. Until 1941 she was conducting excersises. During the attack on Pearl Harbor, she was torpedoed and had to be repaired. During the repair, she also underwent refit. She returned to service in 1942 to participate in Guadalcanal campaign. On the night between 11th and 12th October during the Battle of Cape Esperance Helena detected Japanese ships 25 km away, due to the error in leadership of US Navy commander in charge of the task force, they closed up to 4500 m before Helena opened fire, followed by Boise, Salt Lake City and San Franciso. The Japanese heavy cruiser Furutaka was sunk together with destroyer Fubuki. On 13th November 1942, Helena took part in Third and Fourth Battle of Savo Island during which the US Navy was outnumbered by their Japanese counterpart. Two Atlanta-class light cruisers were lost together with four destroyers. Japan lost Kongo-class battleship and two destroyers. During the battle, Helena crippled Japanese destroyer Amatsukaze that tried to sneak up on her to launch torpedoes. After the Guadalcanal, she participated in Solomon Islands landings  On 5th July 1943, during the Battle of Kula Gulf, Helena sunk destroyer Niizuki and later was torpedoed by two Japanese destroyers. The damage from the torpedoes proven fatal and Helena sunk.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was the ninth and last built [[Brooklyn (Family)|Brooklyn-class]] light cruiser. She was laid down on 9th December 1936 and commissioned on 18th September 1939. Her main armament was made up of five triple 6 inch/47 Mk.16 cannons supplemented by four twin 5 inch/38 Mk.12 dual-purpose cannons. Anti-aircraft protection was supplied by four quadruple 40 mm Bofors L/60 Mark 2 cannons and twelve 20 mm Oerlikon Mk. II autocannons. During the attack on Pearl Harbor, she was torpedoed and had to be repaired. During the repair, she also underwent refit. She returned to service in 1942 to participate in the Guadalcanal campaign. On the night between 11th and 12th October, during the Battle of Cape Esperance, Helena detected Japanese ships 25 km away. Due to an error in leadership of the US Navy commander in charge of the task force, they closed to 4,500 m before Helena opened fire, followed by Boise, Salt Lake City, and San Francisco. The Japanese heavy cruiser [[IJN Furutaka|Furutaka]] was sunk together with destroyer Fubuki. On 13th November 1942, Helena took part in the Third and Fourth Battle of Savo Island during which the US Navy was outnumbered by their Japanese counterpart. Two Atlanta-class light cruisers were lost together with four destroyers. Japan lost a Kongo-class battleship and two destroyers. During the battle, Helena crippled Japanese destroyer Amatsukaze that tried to sneak up on her to launch torpedoes. After Guadalcanal, she participated in the Solomon Islands landings. On 5th July 1943, during the Battle of Kula Gulf, Helena sunk destroyer Niizuki and later was torpedoed by two Japanese destroyers. The damage from the torpedoes proved fatal and Helena sank.
 The {{PAGENAME}} was available in the store in a [[wt:en/news/7087-shop-new-packs-and-a-unique-bundle-en|premium pack]] until it was removed after the [[wt:en/news/7417-shop-war-thunder-birthday-sale-in-gaijin-net-store-en|9th Anniversary Sale]], but was later re-introduced as a regular in-game premium for {{GE}}.

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the first part of the description, cover the history of the ship's creation and military application. In the second part, tell the reader about using this ship in the game. Add a screenshot: if a beginner player has a hard time remembering vehicles by name, a picture will help them identify the ship in question.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} American light cruiser {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.93 "Shark Attack"]] purchasable in-game with Golden Eagles {{ge}}. The {{PAGENAME}} was available in the store in a [[wt:en/news/7087-shop-new-packs-and-a-unique-bundle-en|premium pack]] until it was removed after the [[wt:en/news/7417-shop-war-thunder-birthday-sale-in-gaijin-net-store-en|9th Anniversary Sale]], but was later re-introduced as a regular in-game premium for {{GE}}.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a Brooklyn-class light cruiser built as ninth and last ship. She was laid down on 9th December 1936 and comissioned on 18th September 1939. Her main armament was made of five triple 6 inch/47 Mk.16 cannons supplemented by four twin 5 inch/38 Mk.12 dual purpose cannons. Anti-aircraft protection was supplied by four quadruple 40 mm Bofors L/60 Mark 2 cannons and twelve 20 mm Oerlikon Mk. II autocannons. Until 1941 she was conducting excersises. During the attack on Pearl Harbor, she was torpedoed and had to be repaired. During the repair, she also underwent refit. She returned to service in 1942 to participate in Guadalcanal campaign. On the night between 11th and 12th October during the Battle of Cape Esperance Helena detected Japanese ships 25 km away, due to the error in leadership of US Navy commander in charge of the task force, they closed up to 4500 m before Helena opened fire, followed by Boise, Salt Lake City and San Franciso. The Japanese heavy cruiser Furutaka was sunk together with destroyer Fubuki. On 13th November 1942, Helena took part in Third and Fourth Battle of Savo Island during which the US Navy was outnumbered by their Japanese counterpart. Two Atlanta-class light cruisers were lost together with four destroyers. Japan lost Kongo-class battleship and two destroyers. During the battle, Helena crippled Japanese destroyer Amatsukaze that tried to sneak up on her to launch torpedoes. After the Guadalcanal, she participated in Solomon Islands landings  On 5th July 1943, during the Battle of Kula Gulf, Helena sunk destroyer Niizuki and later was torpedoed by two Japanese destroyers. The damage from the torpedoes proven fatal and Helena sunk.
 == General info ==

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 Turret face armour is 165 mm, side, rear and top armour are 76 mm, 76 mm, and 51 mm thick respectively, and mantlets are 100 mm of RHA. Barbettes are 152 mm of rolled cemented armour. Secondaries are protected only by 32 mm of antifragmentation armour, so expect them to be knocked out as soon as any high calibre shell hits them.
-Bow ammo magazines are protected by 51 mm of antifragmentation armour on the top and sides, and 127 mm of antifragmentation armour in the front. They are also hidden deep below the waterline and behind fuel tanks, which makes them a very difficult target. Aft shells and charges are protected from the top and rear by the same armour as bow magazines, but since there are no fuel tanks, they get 120 mm rolled cemented armour as side armour. Rear of the bow ammo stowage and front of the aft ammo stowage are protected by 95 mm of rolled cemented armour. Ammo elevators are protected by 127 mm of antifragmentation armour.
+Bow ammo magazines are protected by 51 mm of antifragmentation armour on the top and sides, and 127 mm of antifragmentation armour in the front. They are also hidden deep below the waterline and behind fuel tanks, which makes them a very difficult target. Aft shells and charges are protected from the top and rear by the same armour as bow magazines, but since there are no fuel tanks, they get 120 mm rolled cemented armour as side armour. Rear of the bow ammo stowage and front of the aft ammo stowage are protected by 95 mm of rolled cemented armour. Ammo elevators are protected by 127 mm of antifragmentation armour. Bridge is protected by 127 mm of antifragmentation armour on the sides and 57 mm of the same armour on the top.
 Thanks to the unit system (engines and boilers are alternating inside the hull) it's very hard to disable propulsion on the ship, even with a torpedo.
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 '''Cons:'''
 * While well-protected, detonation of forward magazines will cause a chain reaction, potentially cause lethal damage
-* Auxiliary turrets have their first stage ammo stowages unprotected, so unlucky hits may cause heavy fires
+* Auxiliary turrets have their first stage ammo stowages unprotected, so unlucky hits may cause heavy fires or even chain detonation
 * No torpedo armament, restricting it to its gunnery armaments

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 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the technique of using this ship, the characteristics of her use in a team and tips on strategy. Abstain from writing an entire guide – don't try to provide a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought. Talk about the most dangerous opponents for this vehicle and provide recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of playing with this vehicle in various modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
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 * Extensive anti-air suite allows the ship to cover itself and the allies
 * Two scout seaplanes
 '''Cons:'''
 * While well-protected, detonation of forward magazines will cause a chain reaction, potentially cause lethal damage
 * Auxiliary turrets have their first stage ammo stowages unprotected, so unlucky hits may cause heavy fires

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 {{Specs-Fleet-Plane}}
-Located on the stern are two catapults with one SOC-1 scout plane each which provide unique offensive and defensive abilities, expanding tactical options. Ship-launched scout planes fly just like regular tree units but lack munition choices and cockpit views. Alongside the typical abilities of strafing, dropping 2 x 100 lb bombs, and capping zones, the SOC-1 and other scout planes have the added ability to lay down smoke cover (up to 3 times). Captains will be wise to remember to utilise the aircraft and consider when best to use it, for example to cap a point early or late in the match, to create a smoke screen to stymie enemy bombardment and repair, to attack enemy units directly, or perhaps something completely new! With two scout planes one can risk a cap attempt at the beginning of the match, saving the second for any opportunity that presents itself.
+Located on the stern are two catapults with one SOC-1 scout plane each which provide unique offensive and defensive abilities, expanding tactical options. Ship-launched scout planes fly just like regular tree units but lack munition choices and cockpit views. Alongside the typical abilities of strafing, dropping 2 x 100 lb bombs, and capturing zones, the SOC-1 and other scout planes have the added ability to lay down smoke cover (up to 3 times). Captains will be wise to remember to utilise the aircraft and consider when best to use it, for example to cap a point early or late in the match, to create a smoke screen to stymie enemy bombardment and repair, to attack enemy units directly, or perhaps something completely new! With two scout planes one can risk a cap attempt at the beginning of the match, saving the second for any opportunity that presents itself.
 == Usage in battles ==
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 In January of 1943, the Helena was assigned to a new unit to attack Japanese positions in the New Georgia campaign. During this time, her 5-inch guns received new HE-VT shells, which she fired as the first use of the proximity-fused shell in American service. She served extensively as a fire support ship, firing thousands of high-calibre shells in support of American troops.
-On July 4th of 1943, Helena was part of an invasion squadron to land troops at Rice Anchorage. She proceeded to bombard the Japanese positions under the cover of darkness along with the other cruisers and destroyers, but her shell flashes alerted a force of three Japanese destroyers who had been tasked with landing reinforcements for the Japanese garrison. The destroyers withdrew, not before they fired 24 [[Type 93 (610mm) (Family)|Type 93 'Long Lance']] torpedoes at the Americans. Helena was not hit, but a destroyer was sunk and the convoy turned to avoid what was believed to be a submarine (the Americans failed to sight the Japanese destroyers). During this time, Helena's #2 ammunition hoist broke down and her #5 guns suffered a jam. These issues were resolved as she steamed towards the Kula gulf,
+On July 4th of 1943, Helena was part of an invasion squadron to land troops at Rice Anchorage. She proceeded to bombard the Japanese positions under the cover of darkness along with the other cruisers and destroyers, but her shell flashes alerted a force of three Japanese destroyers who had been tasked with landing reinforcements for the Japanese garrison. The destroyers withdrew, not before they fired 24 [[Type 93 (610 mm) (Family)|Type 93 Long Lance]] torpedoes at the Americans. Helena was not hit, but a destroyer was sunk and the convoy turned to avoid what was believed to be a submarine (the Americans failed to sight the Japanese destroyers). During this time, Helena's #2 ammunition hoist broke down and her #5 guns suffered a jam. These issues were resolved as she steamed towards the Kula gulf,
 The next night, the Japanese force returned with 10 destroyers, intending to land the troops again. The American force closed in, and soon after, the Japanese force detected the American squadron using their radar. The Japanese force then began a determined attack with gunfire and torpedoes while the Americans fired back. In the course of 3 minutes, Helena, along with her other cruisers, fired over 1,500 6-inch rounds at the enemy. The destroyer Niizuki was sunk, and the Americans turned right to follow the fleeing Japanese destroyers.