Type 87 - Revision history

U82924470: /* Pros and cons */

2024-10-06T00:50:32Z

‎Pros and cons

U17577377: /* See also */

2024-06-26T00:56:03Z

‎See also

U44629479: Undo revision 180361 by U44185333 (talk)

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Undo revision 180361 by U44185333 (talk)

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2024-01-14T11:46:18Z

Added some lines to pros/cons.

U44629479: Edits

2023-09-10T10:38:50Z

Edits

U143475368 at 02:18, 10 September 2023

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U143475368 at 02:18, 10 September 2023

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U38088265: /* Mobility */ Updated

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‎Mobility: Updated

U44629479: Corrected About template

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Corrected About template

U38088265: /* Description */

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‎Description

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 * -5 degrees of gun depression (bad compared to the Flakpanzer Gepard)
 * 30 mm armour maximum
-* Any main ammunition belts other than the default cost 6,600 silver lions
+* Comparatively meagre turret rotation speed
 * You can only have one secondary belt selected with a meagre ammo count
 * Spinning radar dish may make you more visible in tank realistic battles
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 ;Related development
 * [[Type 74 (Family)]]
 ;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
 * [[Oerlikon KDA (35 mm)]]
 ** [[File:FRG flag.png|30px|link=]] [[Gepard]]

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 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
-;Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
+;Related development
+* [[Type 74 (Family)]]
 ;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
+* [[Oerlikon KDA (35 mm)]]
-* [[M247]]
+** [[File:FRG flag.png|30px|link=]] [[Gepard]]
-* [[Gepard]]
+** [[File:Britain flag.png|30px|link=]] [[Chieftain Marksman]]
-* [[ZSU-23-4]]
+** [[File:Finland flag.png|30px|link=]] [[ItPsV Leopard]]
-* [[Chieftain Marksman]]
+** [[File:South Africa flag.png|30px|link=]] [[ZA-35]]
-* [[AMX-30 DCA]]
+** [[File:China flag.png|30px|link=]] [[PGZ09]]
 == External links ==

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 '''Pros:'''
-* Powerful, fast-firing 35 mm twin Oerlikon KDA cannons
+* Powerful, fast-firing 35 mm twin Oerlikon KDA cannon
-* Quick forwards speed inherited with Type 74 chassis, up to 58 km/h
+* Quick with the Type 74 chassis, up to 58 km/h
-* [[Hydropneumatic suspension]] of the Type 74 chassis increases the vertical limits of the guns; can also level the turret in uneven terrain for more precision
+* [[Hydropneumatic suspension]] with the Type 74 chassis
-* Can make quick work of even MBTs by shooting at their barely armored sides!
+* Can engage tanks from their sides
 '''Cons:'''
-* -5 degrees of gun depression (bad compared to the Flakpanzer Gepard) - can however be rectified by using the adjustable suspension
+* -5 degrees of gun depression (bad compared to the Flakpanzer Gepard)
-* 30 mm armour maximum - very susceptible to autocannons and artillery
+* 30 mm armour maximum
-* Any main ammunition belts other than the default are expensive
+* Any main ammunition belts other than the default cost 6,600 silver lions
-* You can only have one secondary belt selected with a meagre ammo count of 20 rpg for a combined 40 rounds
+* You can only have one secondary belt selected with a meagre ammo count
 * Spinning radar dish may make you more visible in tank realistic battles
 == History ==

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 '''Pros:'''
-* Powerful, fast-firing 35 mm twin Oerlikon KDA cannon
+* Powerful, fast-firing 35 mm twin Oerlikon KDA cannons
-* Quick with the Type 74 chassis, up to 58 km/h
+* Quick forwards speed inherited with Type 74 chassis, up to 58 km/h
-* [[Hydropneumatic suspension]] with the Type 74 chassis
+* [[Hydropneumatic suspension]] of the Type 74 chassis increases the vertical limits of the guns; can also level the turret in uneven terrain for more precision
-* Can engage tanks from their sides
+* Can make quick work of even MBTs by shooting at their barely armored sides!
 '''Cons:'''
-* -5 degrees of gun depression (bad compared to the Flakpanzer Gepard)
+* -5 degrees of gun depression (bad compared to the Flakpanzer Gepard) - can however be rectified by using the adjustable suspension
-* 30 mm armour maximum
+* 30 mm armour maximum - very susceptible to autocannons and artillery
-* Any main ammunition belts other than the default cost 6,600 silver lions
+* Any main ammunition belts other than the default are expensive
-* You can only have one secondary belt selected with a meagre ammo count
+* You can only have one secondary belt selected with a meagre ammo count of 20 rpg for a combined 40 rounds
 * Spinning radar dish may make you more visible in tank realistic battles
 == History ==

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 * ''other literature.'' -->
-* [[wt:en/news/4512-development-type-87-the-japanese-gepard-en/|[Devblog] Type 87: The Japanese Gepard]]
+* [[wt:en/news/4512-development-type-87-the-japanese-gepard-en|[Devblog] Type 87: The Japanese Gepard]]
-* [https://sensha-manual.blogspot.com/2017/02/development-of-modern-spaag.html| [SENSHA Blog] Development of the Modern SPAAG]
+* [https://sensha-manual.blogspot.com/2017/02/development-of-modern-spaag.html <nowiki>[SENSHA Blog]</nowiki> Development of the Modern SPAAG]
 {{Manufacturer MHI}}
 {{Japan anti-aircraft vehicles}}

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Japanese self-propelled anti-aircraft gun, roughly similar in concept to the [[Gepard|Flakpanzer Gepard]] to replace the [[M15 CGMC|M15]] and [[M42 (Japan)|M42]] in Japanese service. Initially designed to utilize the [[Type 61]] hull, development was switched to the newly available [[Type 74]] hull to keep it up to date. It is commonly nicknamed as "Guntank" by Japanese crews after the similar-looking mecha in the Mobile Suit Gundam series.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Japanese self-propelled anti-aircraft gun, roughly similar in concept to the [[Gepard|Flakpanzer Gepard]] to replace the [[M15 CGMC|M15]] and [[M42 (Japan)|M42]] in Japanese service. Initially designed to utilize the [[Type 61]] hull, development was switched to the newly available [[Type 74 (Family)|Type 74]] hull to keep it up to date. It is commonly nicknamed as "Guntank" by Japanese crews after the similar-looking mecha in the Mobile Suit Gundam series.
 Introduced in [[Update 1.67 "Assault"]], the Type 87 is incredibly similar to the German [[Gepard|Flakpanzer Gepard]], using the same [[Oerlikon KDA (35 mm)|35 mm Oerlikon KDA]] autocannons with a similar turret layout. The Type 87 performs fairly well at its rank, being able to effectively engage aircraft thanks to its high rate of fire, quick turret traverse, and radar systems. It is also capable of fighting lightly armoured tanks such as most IFVs ([[BMP (Disambiguation)|BMP]], [[Warrior]], [[M3 Bradley|Bradley]], etc.), destroying them in seconds with its rapid-firing guns. The Type 87 is also extremely proficient at shooting down helicopters - the [[AH-1G]] is a common nuisance that the Type 87 has no difficulty destroying. However, against more modern helicopters ([[Ka-50]], [[AH-64 (Family)|AH-64]], etc) that often stay at longer ranges, the Type 87 is harmless and the only thing the tank commander can do is take notice of the laser warning system, deploy smoke, and take cover.

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Japanese anti-air roughly based on the [[Gepard|Flakpanzer Gepard]] to update the M15A1 and M42 in Japanese service. Initially designed to utilize the [[Type 61]] hull, development was switched to the newly available [[Type 74]] hull to keep it up to date. It is commonly nicknamed as "Guntank" by Japanese crews after the similar-looking mecha in the Mobile Suit Gundam series.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Japanese self-propelled anti-aircraft gun, roughly similar in concept to the [[Gepard|Flakpanzer Gepard]] to replace the [[M15 CGMC|M15]] and [[M42 (Japan)|M42]] in Japanese service. Initially designed to utilize the [[Type 61]] hull, development was switched to the newly available [[Type 74]] hull to keep it up to date. It is commonly nicknamed as "Guntank" by Japanese crews after the similar-looking mecha in the Mobile Suit Gundam series.
-Introduced in [[Update 1.67 "Assault"]], the Type 87 is incredibly similar to the German [[Gepard|Flakpanzer Gepard]], using the same [[Oerlikon KDA (35 mm)|35 mm Oerlikon KDA]] autocannons with a similar turret layout. The Type 87 performs fairly well at its rank, being able to effectively engage aircraft thanks to its high rate of fire, quick turret traverse, and radar systems. It is also capable of fighting lightly armoured tanks such as most IFVs (BMP, Warrior, Bradley, etc), destroying them in seconds with its rapid-fire guns. The Type 87 is also extremely proficient at shooting down helicopters - the [[AH-1G]] is a common nuisance that the Type 87 has no difficulty destroying. However, against more modern helicopters (Ka-50, AH-64, etc) that often stay at longer ranges, the Type 87 is harmless and the only thing the tank commander can do is take notice of the laser warning system, deploy smoke, and take cover.
+Introduced in [[Update 1.67 "Assault"]], the Type 87 is incredibly similar to the German [[Gepard|Flakpanzer Gepard]], using the same [[Oerlikon KDA (35 mm)|35 mm Oerlikon KDA]] autocannons with a similar turret layout. The Type 87 performs fairly well at its rank, being able to effectively engage aircraft thanks to its high rate of fire, quick turret traverse, and radar systems. It is also capable of fighting lightly armoured tanks such as most IFVs ([[BMP (Disambiguation)|BMP]], [[Warrior]], [[M3 Bradley|Bradley]], etc.), destroying them in seconds with its rapid-firing guns. The Type 87 is also extremely proficient at shooting down helicopters - the [[AH-1G]] is a common nuisance that the Type 87 has no difficulty destroying. However, against more modern helicopters ([[Ka-50]], [[AH-64 (Family)|AH-64]], etc) that often stay at longer ranges, the Type 87 is harmless and the only thing the tank commander can do is take notice of the laser warning system, deploy smoke, and take cover.
 == General info ==
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 ==== Ammunition ====
 * '''Default:''' {{Annotation|API-T*|Armour-piercing incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEI-T*|High-explosive incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}} - can attack planes and light tanks alike. HEI-T does fatal damage to aeroplanes, but has 3 mm penetration, being useless against tanks. API-T penetration is about 64 mm at 100 m at a flat angle. Keep in mind that it can fail to penetrate medium tanks. Against planes, API-T does kinetic damage and may rip off their wings on a good hit.
 * '''DM11A1:''' {{Annotation|HEI-T*|High-explosive incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEI-T*|High-explosive incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEI-T*|High-explosive incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|API-T*|Armour-piercing incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}} - 75% of this belt does critical damage to aircraft but does nothing to ground vehicles.
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=jp_type_87 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 ;Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
 The Type 87 is based on a modified [[Type 74 (Family)|Type 74]] hull
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 * [[wt:en/news/4512-development-type-87-the-japanese-gepard-en/|[Devblog] Type 87: The Japanese Gepard]]
-* [https://sensha-manual.blogspot.com/2017/02/development-of-modern-spaag.html|[SENSHA Blog] Development of the Modern SPAAG]
+* [https://sensha-manual.blogspot.com/2017/02/development-of-modern-spaag.html| [SENSHA Blog] Development of the Modern SPAAG]
 {{Manufacturer MHI}}
 {{Japan anti-aircraft vehicles}}

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 <!-- ''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.'' -->
-{{tankMobility|abMinHp=1,023|rbMinHp=637}}
+{{tankMobility|abMinHp=1,235|rbMinHp=769}}
 === Modifications and economy ===

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 {{About
 | about = Japanese SPAA '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
-| usage = the Japanese light tank
+| usage = other uses
-| link = Type 87 RCV
+| link = Type 87 (Disambiguation)
 }}
 {{Specs-Card