Tornado ADV - Revision history

U38088265: /* Suspended armament */

2024-08-23T08:17:30Z

‎Suspended armament

U42858531: /* See also */ I added the list with links to other aircraft with variable geometry wings that exist in the game

2024-03-24T03:31:16Z

‎See also: I added the list with links to other aircraft with variable geometry wings that exist in the game

U126612375: Small corrections

2023-10-23T08:32:09Z

Small corrections

U38088265: Edits

2023-09-07T14:04:20Z

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U51386188: /* Suspended armament */

2023-09-05T16:24:22Z

‎Suspended armament

U51386188: /* Description */

2023-09-05T16:22:21Z

‎Description

U51386188: /* See also, Usage in battles */

2023-09-05T15:45:14Z

‎See also, Usage in battles

U51386188: /* External links */

2023-09-05T15:31:14Z

‎External links

U126556775: Flight performance (edited in same was as Tornado F.3)

2023-08-23T20:07:34Z

Flight performance (edited in same was as Tornado F.3)

U44629479: Edits

2023-08-06T21:31:41Z

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 ! [[Skyflash]] missiles
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 ! [[Skyflash SuperTEMP]] missiles
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 * 2 x 330 gal drop tanks
-* 2 x AIM-9L Sidewinder missiles
+* 2 x AIM-9L Sidewinder missiles + 2 x Skyflash missiles
 * 4 x AIM-9L Sidewinder missiles + 320 x countermeasures
 * 4 x Skyflash missiles

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 * [[Tornado IDS ASSTA1 (Germany)]]
 * [[Tornado IDS (Germany)]]
 == External links ==

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 ! Stock
-| 2,280 || 2,257 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 28.4 || 28.6 || 167.3 || 163.4 || rowspan="2" | 800
+| 2,281 || 2,257 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 28.4 || 28.5 || 167.3 || 163.3 || rowspan="2" | 800
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 ! Upgraded
-| 2,340 || 2,308 || 27.6 || 28.0 || 216.7 || 191.0
+| 2,343 || 2,308 || 27.6 || 28.0 || 216.7 || 191.0
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 | colspan="2" | Turbo-Union RB199-34R Mk.104 || 2
-| colspan="3" | 14,659 kg || colspan="3" | 742 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
+| colspan="3" | 14,659 kg || colspan="3" | 744 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
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 ! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics

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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.''
+''The '''Tornado ADV''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance''
 == Usage in battles ==

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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "La Royale"]].
+The Italian Panavia Tornado ADV (introduced in [[Update "La Royale"]].) was born out of a joint effort by Italy, Germany and the United Kingdom during the late cold war in the 1970s. The Tornado would be designed as a twin-engined, variable-swept wing aircraft with a two-person crew an internal gun and provisions for a wide array of armament which included guided/unguided bombs, mine launchers, rockets, air to air missiles and air to ground missiles. The ADV variant was made to be better suited for air-to-air engagements, it had access to better avionics and better anti-air missiles. Italy would gain access to this aircraft due to the need to replace the F104's as their frontline air-defence fighter jet. In game the Tornado ADV has access to AIM-9L Sidewinders, Skyflash SuperTEMPs and a 27 mm Mauser BK27 cannon. It's best not to be overly agressive with the Tornado ADV, use your advantages to the best of your ability. The ADV can easily outrange most enemies it faces, however at closer ranges the aircraft cannot dogfight as well as others. You will come to find out the ADV loses energy quickly and cannot sustain long-duration dogfights. The aircraft is not really suited for Ground RB, so try stick to using this in SIM or Air RB. Overall, just play defensively, you want to keep the upper hand in engagments, a skilled player can take on pretty much any aircraft it will face, especially in downtiers.
 == General info ==

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 == Usage in battles ==
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-''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
+The Tornado ADV is outclassed by higher tier aircraft, and is heavily dependent on its weaponry and avionics to be competitive. During the early grind, AIM-9Ls and the radar assisted gun are the only options, meaning that you have to stay at ground level (about 20-30 m above ground) to avoid being instantly obliterated by SARH missiles. Try to stick to the flat ground, and if that is impossible, try to "dive" into the openings instead of going over them, as you will momentarily lose ground echo protection. This makes early Tornado ADV gameplay that of a "first encounter" plane - simply be there first and cause as much chaos as you can before enemy gets you, so your team can finish them off, or flank enemy team from the side and hope they did not notice you approaching. The gun scope does not care about "ground echo" that completely destroys radar missiles, so you can easily snipe your opponents in a head-on. Even if all you do is cause some fires, this will spell doom for the enemy plane, as they can be easily cleaned up by teammates. A lot of planes that stick to the ground carry AIM-9Ls or R-60 variants, so turn afterburner off before actually engaging enemy planes and fire some flares while you go at them, especially at 900 m range and when pulling over hills.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 * [[Tornado F.3]]
 == External links ==

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 ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
-* ''topic on the official game forum;''
+** ''https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/485805-panavia-tornado/''
-* ''other literature.''
+** ''https://www.aircraftrecognitionguide.com/panavia-tornado''
 {{AirManufacturer Panavia}}
 {{Italy jet aircraft}}

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-{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
+{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="60%"
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 ! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
 ! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
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 ! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
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-| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 1,166 || 552 || 440 || ~8 || ~3
+! Min sweep
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 | colspan="2" | Turbo-Union RB199-34R Mk.104 || 2
-| colspan="3" | 14,659 kg || colspan="3" | ___ kg/m<sup>2</sup>
+| colspan="3" | 14,659 kg || colspan="3" | 742 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
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 ! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics

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 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
 ! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
-! colspan="2" | Max speed<br>(km/h at _,___ m)
+! colspan="2" | Max speed<br>(km/h at 11,582 m)
 ! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
 ! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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 ! Stock
-| 2,280 || 2,257 || rowspan="2" | 13000 || 28.4 || 28.6 || 167.3 || 163.4 || rowspan="2" | 800
+| 2,280 || 2,257 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 28.4 || 28.6 || 167.3 || 163.4 || rowspan="2" | 800
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 ! Upgraded
-|2,340||2,308||27.6||28.0||216.7||191.0
+| 2,340 || 2,308 || 27.6 || 28.0 || 216.7 || 191.0
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 ! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
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-| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X     <!-- ✓ -->
+| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X    <!-- ✓ -->
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 ! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
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-| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} ||1,166||552||440||~8||~3
+| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 1,166 || 552 || 440 || ~8 || ~3
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 ! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
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-|< 670||< 650||< 700||-
+| < 670 || < 650 || < 700 || -
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 == History ==
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-The Panavia Tornado was born out of a joint effort by Italy, Germany and the United Kingdom during the late cold war in the 1970's. The Tornado would be designed as a twin-engined, variable-swept wing aircraft with a two-person crew an internal gun and provisions for a wide array of armament which included guided/unguided bombs, mine launchers, rockets, air to air missiles and air to ground missiles. The aircraft was also armed with 2 German made 27mm Mauser BK-27 revolver cannon which was able to make short work of pretty much any aircraft it had in its sights, with the right munition it was also capable of taking out lightly armoured vehicles such as the BMP-1. The Panavia Tornado was primarily made to undertake missions which included tactical strike, reconnaissance, air defence and maritime patrol. What they aimed when making the design was an aircraft which could be very multi-role, ot would allow the Panavia Tornado to replace several different types of aircraft which were at the time in service with the respected countries. The main variants which were designed included the IDS which was mainly a strike-fighter, the ADV which was the Air Defence Variant and lastly the ECR, which was mainly created to carry out recon and SEAD missions. In terms speed the Tornado could go up to 2400km per hour, its engine being known as the Turbo-Union RB199-34R Mk.103. After several proposals and design changes, the first prototype of the Panavia Tornado would fly on the 14th of August, 1974. The prototype would further solidify the partnership as when it was being demonstrated, a lot of positive comments would be made. Thus development would continue smoothly with the first aircraft being officially delivered to the RAF (Royal Air Force) and the German Air Force on 5 and 6 June 1979 respectively.
+The Panavia Tornado was born out of a joint effort by Italy, Germany and the United Kingdom during the late cold war in the 1970s. The Tornado would be designed as a twin-engined, variable-swept wing aircraft with a two-person crew an internal gun and provisions for a wide array of armament which included guided/unguided bombs, mine launchers, rockets, air to air missiles and air to ground missiles. The aircraft was also armed with 2 German made 27 mm Mauser BK-27 revolver cannon which was able to make short work of pretty much any aircraft it had in its sights, with the right munition it was also capable of taking out lightly armoured vehicles such as the BMP-1. The Panavia Tornado was primarily made to undertake missions which included tactical strike, reconnaissance, air defence and maritime patrol. What they aimed when making the design was an aircraft which could be very multi-role, it would allow the Panavia Tornado to replace several different types of aircraft which were at the time in service with the respected countries. The main variants which were designed included the IDS which was mainly a strike-fighter, the ADV which was the Air Defence Variant and lastly the ECR, which was mainly created to carry out recon and SEAD missions. In terms speed the Tornado could go up to 2,400 km per hour, its engine being known as the Turbo-Union RB199-34R Mk.103. After several proposals and design changes, the first prototype of the Panavia Tornado would fly on the 14th of August, 1974. The prototype would further solidify the partnership as when it was being demonstrated, a lot of positive comments would be made. Thus development would continue smoothly with the first aircraft being officially delivered to the RAF (Royal Air Force) and the German Air Force on 5 and 6 June 1979 respectively.
-In terms of the Italian ADV, during the late stages of the cold war Italy realised they needed more in the air defence department, the F104's although good as interceptors were not very suitible for dog-fighting. Italy looked towards Britian for help. Thus on the 17th of November 1993, Italy would sign an agreement with the RAF to lease up 24 Tornado ADV's directly from the RAF stocks for a period of ten years. The first Italian pilots would be trained on the Tornado ADV platform at RAF Coningsby in Lincolnshire, England starting in 1995. The Italian Air Force (Aeronautica Militare Italiana) would then receive its first Tornado ADV aircraft in the mid 1990's. These aircraft were assigned to specialized interceptor squadrons to protect Italian airspace and provide air defense for critical assets and regions. The Tornado ADV variant was specifically developed to serve as an interceptor to replace the aging fleets of existing fighter aircraft, The ADV variant featured longer-range radar, more powerful engines, and enhanced avionics to excel in the air defense role. Italy would not lease these aircraft again, due to issues which were found during its service. These issues included the lack of spare parts and lack of surplus engines. Italy would return most of the aircraft back to Britian, some of them remained in Italy and exposed in musuems, such as the famous Vigna di Valle. Ultimately Italy would lease F-16 ADF's up until the Eurofighters were ready to take over.
+In terms of the Italian ADV, during the late stages of the cold war Italy realised they needed more in the air defence department, the F104s although good as interceptors were not very suitable for dogfighting. Italy looked towards Britain for help. Thus on the 17th of November 1993, Italy would sign an agreement with the RAF to lease up 24 Tornado ADVs directly from the RAF stocks for a period of ten years. The first Italian pilots would be trained on the Tornado ADV platform at RAF Coningsby in Lincolnshire, England starting in 1995. The Italian Air Force (Aeronautica Militare Italiana) would then receive its first Tornado ADV aircraft in the mid 1990s. These aircraft were assigned to specialized interceptor squadrons to protect Italian airspace and provide air defense for critical assets and regions. The Tornado ADV variant was specifically developed to serve as an interceptor to replace the aging fleets of existing fighter aircraft, The ADV variant featured longer-range radar, more powerful engines, and enhanced avionics to excel in the air defense role. Italy would not lease these aircraft again, due to issues which were found during its service. These issues included the lack of spare parts and lack of surplus engines. Italy would return most of the aircraft back to Britain, some of them remained in Italy and exposed in museums, such as the famous Vigna di Valle. Ultimately Italy would lease F-16 ADFs up until the Eurofighters were ready to take over.
 == Media ==