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 This is a very heavy tank with an engine meant for a tank half its weight, so it moves slow and turns slow. It is not as reliable for close range combat as a medium tank and if you try brawl with it more than necessary you will find yourself quickly flanked by faster, more agile tanks and destroyed with side/rear shots. Also, soviet 122 mm guns don't have the best penetration but if that shell gets into your tank you will not survive, and under 500 m, it is going to get in.
-This does not mean you should stay put in a single spot, or camp a location like a tank destroyer (which are designed to camp): you have mobility, so keep moving or you will attract a lot of attention, only to find out too late that someone took his sweet time to travel 1.5km to your position to deliver you a shell to the side.
+This does not mean you should stay put in a single spot, or camp a location like a tank destroyer (which are designed to camp): you have mobility, so keep moving or you will attract a lot of attention, only to find out too late that someone took his sweet time to travel 1.5 km to your position to deliver you a shell to the side.
 ====Tactics====
 ====== Know the specs======
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 The recommended ammo ratio is 2/3 (two thirds) of APCBC and 1/3 (one third) of APCR.
-In arcade battles ranging is quite easy since the game does it for you, in [[Realistic Battles|realistic]] and [[Simulator Battles|simulator]] however you do not have this advantage. Trying to "eyeball it" after 800 m can be incredibly tricky in these game modes, but something you might not know is that your sights provide you with all the tools you need to land a shot on your first try on a target that can be as far as 2,800 m (2.8km). You just need to follow the formula: Target size in metres / mil number x 1,000 = target range
+In arcade battles ranging is quite easy since the game does it for you, in [[Realistic Battles|realistic]] and [[Simulator Battles|simulator]] however you do not have this advantage. Trying to "eyeball it" after 800 m can be incredibly tricky in these game modes, but something you might not know is that your sights provide you with all the tools you need to land a shot on your first try on a target that can be as far as 2,800 m (2.8 km). You just need to follow the formula: Target size in metres / mil number x 1,000 = target range
 Your "target size" is the length or the width (depending on what side you are facing) of your target, the mils are displayed in your sights on the horizontal axis, you divide these 2 numbers and multiply the result by 1,000 and you will get the exact distance in metres. Then you just have to adjust your aim using the vertical axis of your sights (that displays the bullet drop) and take the shot. If your numbers were correct, you will land the shot dead on.
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 =====Performance in a 0.0 to 10.0 scale:=====
-*3.0/10 Rusher: Trying to get to the capture point before a T-44 or a Panther? Keep dreaming. This is a slow slumbering beast that will struggle to achieve 40 km/h even on a flat road, struggle to achieve 30 km/h on flat cross country, struggle to achieve 20 km/h on rough cross country and struggle to achieve 8km/h up a steep hill (that is, if you can climb it at all). Its engine was meant for a tank half its weight and size, so expect a slow tank.
+*3.0/10 Rusher: Trying to get to the capture point before a T-44 or a Panther? Keep dreaming. This is a slow slumbering beast that will struggle to achieve 40 km/h even on a flat road, struggle to achieve 30 km/h on flat cross country, struggle to achieve 20 km/h on rough cross country and struggle to achieve 8 km/h up a steep hill (that is, if you can climb it at all). Its engine was meant for a tank half its weight and size, so expect a slow tank.
 *4.5/10 Brawler: Its heavyweight, limited acceleration and high profile make it unsuitable for highly mobile close quarter battles, if the tank is on its own it will get easily flanked and destroyed by faster medium/light tanks better suited for these battles and most Allied tanks prefer close quarters while engaging the Tiger II, so it quickly becomes a turkey hunt. However, its great gun and heavy frontal armour add to its survivability and if the operator has medium tank support it can become a foothold for the team.
 *6.0/10 Flanker: Again, its high profile and low acceleration don't make it the best tank to flank and a medium tank is better suited for this, but it has a fairly good top speed (even if it takes a long time and a flat road to achieve it), it's comparatively fast for a heavy tank, its heavy armour gives it extra survivability in case of a counter attack and if it manages to position itself on the enemy's flank, it can quickly destroy them.

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	The Tiger II (P) remains one of the more potent foes a player could face in the Rank IV battles.		The Tiger II (P) remains one of the more potent foes a player could face in the Rank IV battles.
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−	The Tiger II was the first version fo the Tiger II, which would alter get into big numbers by the Producer Henschel, could be described by saying the Panther and the Tiger I had a lovechild with the best genes of both.

	The Tiger II's cannon can maintain a very nice penetration even at long ranges (1,200 m-1,800 m) while American and Soviet cannons usually cannot keep such high penetration over distance, so they prefer 700 m or less engagements where their guns will most likely destroy you in the first hit, so get used to long range engagements. Being comfortable with kilometre long shots is a must in this tank. At 800 m you should still be within a safe distance (depending on what you are facing) but going under that is getting into the Allied guns' effective range.		The Tiger II's cannon can maintain a very nice penetration even at long ranges (1,200 m-1,800 m) while American and Soviet cannons usually cannot keep such high penetration over distance, so they prefer 700 m or less engagements where their guns will most likely destroy you in the first hit, so get used to long range engagements. Being comfortable with kilometre long shots is a must in this tank. At 800 m you should still be within a safe distance (depending on what you are facing) but going under that is getting into the Allied guns' effective range.

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 The Tiger II (P) remains one of the more potent foes a player could face in the Rank IV battles.
-The Tiger II was the first version fo the Tiger II, which would alter get into big numbers by the Producer Henschel, could be described by saying the Panther adn the TIger had a lovechild with the best genes of both.
+The Tiger II was the first version fo the Tiger II, which would alter get into big numbers by the Producer Henschel, could be described by saying the Panther and the Tiger I had a lovechild with the best genes of both.
 The Tiger II's cannon can maintain a very nice penetration even at long ranges (1,200 m-1,800 m) while American and Soviet cannons usually cannot keep such high penetration over distance, so they prefer 700 m or less engagements where their guns will most likely destroy you in the first hit, so get used to long range engagements. Being comfortable with kilometre long shots is a must in this tank. At 800 m you should still be within a safe distance (depending on what you are facing) but going under that is getting into the Allied guns' effective range.

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 The Tiger II (P) remains one of the more potent foes a player could face in the Rank IV battles.
-The Tiger II was the first version fo the Tiger II, which would alter get into big numbers by the Producer Henschel, could be described by saying the Panther adn the TIger had a lovechild with good genes.
+The Tiger II was the first version fo the Tiger II, which would alter get into big numbers by the Producer Henschel, could be described by saying the Panther adn the TIger had a lovechild with the best genes of both.
 The Tiger II's cannon can maintain a very nice penetration even at long ranges (1,200 m-1,800 m) while American and Soviet cannons usually cannot keep such high penetration over distance, so they prefer 700 m or less engagements where their guns will most likely destroy you in the first hit, so get used to long range engagements. Being comfortable with kilometre long shots is a must in this tank. At 800 m you should still be within a safe distance (depending on what you are facing) but going under that is getting into the Allied guns' effective range.

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	The Tiger II (P) remains one of the more potent foes a player could face in the Rank IV battles.		The Tiger II (P) remains one of the more potent foes a player could face in the Rank IV battles.
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		+	The Tiger II was the first version fo the Tiger II, which would alter get into big numbers by the Producer Henschel, could be described by saying the Panther adn the TIger had a lovechild with good genes.

	The Tiger II's cannon can maintain a very nice penetration even at long ranges (1,200 m-1,800 m) while American and Soviet cannons usually cannot keep such high penetration over distance, so they prefer 700 m or less engagements where their guns will most likely destroy you in the first hit, so get used to long range engagements. Being comfortable with kilometre long shots is a must in this tank. At 800 m you should still be within a safe distance (depending on what you are facing) but going under that is getting into the Allied guns' effective range.		The Tiger II's cannon can maintain a very nice penetration even at long ranges (1,200 m-1,800 m) while American and Soviet cannons usually cannot keep such high penetration over distance, so they prefer 700 m or less engagements where their guns will most likely destroy you in the first hit, so get used to long range engagements. Being comfortable with kilometre long shots is a must in this tank. At 800 m you should still be within a safe distance (depending on what you are facing) but going under that is getting into the Allied guns' effective range.

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 You have to find a tactic that suits your playstyle best; these are simple tips that should help you get started.
-'''It is not a medium tank not a tank destroyer:'''<br>
+'''It is not a medium tank nor a tank destroyer:'''<br>
 This is a very heavy tank with an engine meant for a tank half its weight, so it moves slow and turns slow. It is not as reliable for close range combat as a medium tank and if you try brawl with it more than necessary you will find yourself quickly flanked by faster, more agile tanks and destroyed with side/rear shots. Also, soviet 122 mm guns don't have the best penetration but if that shell gets into your tank you will not survive, and under 500 m, it is going to get in.

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 The Tiger II's cannon can maintain a very nice penetration even at long ranges (1,200 m-1,800 m) while American and Soviet cannons usually cannot keep such high penetration over distance, so they prefer 700 m or less engagements where their guns will most likely destroy you in the first hit, so get used to long range engagements. Being comfortable with kilometre long shots is a must in this tank. At 800 m you should still be within a safe distance (depending on what you are facing) but going under that is getting into the Allied guns' effective range.
-'''Difference between the [[Tiger II (H)|Krupp (H)]] and the [[Tiger II (P)|Krupp (P)]] turrets'''<br>
+'''Difference between the [[Tiger II (H)]] and the [[Tiger II (P)]] turrets'''<br>
 The "Henschel" turret is slightly more resistant since it has a flat but thick plate in the front and a more effective gun mantlet. The "Porsche" turret is less armoured (100 mm instead of 185 mm on the Henschel turret) , has an exposed turret ring and a shot trap that can and will deflect shells to the weaker upper plate of the chassis. Commander's cupola on the "Henschel" turret is also thicker (150 mm, opposed to 100 mm on "Porsche" turret). Other than that both tanks are identical, but for obvious reasons the "Henschel" turret is more popular than the "Porsche" turret. The initial design is often misleadingly called the "Porsche" turret due to the belief that it was designed by Porsche for their prototype; in fact it was the initial Krupp design for both prototypes.

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 '''Difference between the [[Tiger II (H)|Henschel (H)]] and the [[Tiger II (P)|Porsche (P)]] turrets'''<br>
-The "Henschel" turret is slightly more resistant since it has a flat but thick plate in the front and a more effective gun mantlet. The "Porsche" turret is less armoured (100mm instead of 185mm on the Henschel turret) , has an exposed turret ring and a shot trap that can and will deflect shells to the weaker upper plate of the chassis. Commander's cupola on the "Henschel" turret is also thicker (150 mm, opposed to 100 mm on "Porsche" turret). Other than that both tanks are identical, but for obvious reasons the "Henschel" turret is more popular than the "Porsche" turret. The initial design is often misleadingly called the "Porsche" turret due to the belief that it was designed by Porsche for their prototype; in fact it was the initial Krupp design for both prototypes.
+The "Henschel" turret is slightly more resistant since it has a flat but thick plate in the front and a more effective gun mantlet. The "Porsche" turret is less armoured (100 mm instead of 185 mm on the Henschel turret) , has an exposed turret ring and a shot trap that can and will deflect shells to the weaker upper plate of the chassis. Commander's cupola on the "Henschel" turret is also thicker (150 mm, opposed to 100 mm on "Porsche" turret). Other than that both tanks are identical, but for obvious reasons the "Henschel" turret is more popular than the "Porsche" turret. The initial design is often misleadingly called the "Porsche" turret due to the belief that it was designed by Porsche for their prototype; in fact it was the initial Krupp design for both prototypes.
 == General info ==