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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' ([[Abbreviations#.28DE.29_Sd.Kfz._Index|Sd.Kfz. Index:]] '''Sd.Kfz. 182''') is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} German heavy tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.57 "Battle March"]].
-As part of a purchasable bundle, this variant comes with premium bonuses and the experimental installation of a diesel engine, vastly increasing its mobility. But besides that, the Sla.16 works almost exactly like the regular tech-tree version. It fits very well into the 6.7 line-up and because of its enhanced combat capabilities, can be utilized in battle to great effect.
+As part of a purchasable bundle, this variant comes with premium bonuses and the experimental installation of a diesel engine, vastly increasing its mobility. But besides that, the Sla.16 works almost exactly like the regular tech-tree version. It fits very well into the 6.7 line-up and because of its enhanced combat capabilities, can be utilised in battle to great effect.
 == General info ==
-=== Survivability and armor ===
+=== Survivability and armour ===
 {{Specs-Tank-Armour}}
 <!-- ''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.'' -->

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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' ([[Abbreviations#.28DE.29_Sd.Kfz._Index|Sd.Kfz. Index:]] '''Sd.Kfz. 182''') is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} German heavy tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.57 "Battle March"]].
-As part of a purchasable bundle, this variant comes with premium bonuses and the experimental installation of a diesel engine, vastly increasing its mobility. But besides that, the Sla.16 works almost exactly like the regular tech-tree version. It fits very well into the 6.7 line-up and because of its enhanced combat capabilities, can be utilised in battle to great effect.
+As part of a purchasable bundle, this variant comes with premium bonuses and the experimental installation of a diesel engine, vastly increasing its mobility. But besides that, the Sla.16 works almost exactly like the regular tech-tree version. It fits very well into the 6.7 line-up and because of its enhanced combat capabilities, can be utilized in battle to great effect.
 == General info ==
-=== Survivability and armour ===
+=== Survivability and armor ===
 {{Specs-Tank-Armour}}
 <!-- ''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.'' -->

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 A Tiger II is a formidable enemy when it's used correctly by its operator, but it's by no means indestructible under any conditions.
-The first thing you want to do is deny the Tiger II of the advantage of its gun by getting as close as possible while keeping clear of its cannon (the closer you get, the better the penetration values for you and the Tiger II) most Tiger II operators will avoid getting flanked at all costs so you might find yourself forced to face one from the front. The biggest weak spot is the lower frontal hull plate, its slopped but only 100 mm thick and behind it lies the transmission that likes to catch fires and create nasty shrapnel when destroyed, the shrapnel will fly inwards and if your shell is large enough they will take out the entire crew. However, this shot will most likely only leave the Tiger II unable to move for a minute and make his operator quite angry (at you) while his gun remains perfectly operational and before you have a chance reload you will most likely receive a very accurate shot from an irritated Tiger II operator.
+The first thing you want to do is deny the Tiger II of the advantage of its gun by getting as close as possible while keeping clear of its cannon (the closer you get, the better the penetration values for you and the Tiger II) most Tiger II operators will avoid getting flanked at all costs so you might find yourself forced to face one from the front. The biggest weak spot is the lower frontal hull plate, its slopped but only 100 mm thick and behind it lies the transmission that likes to catch fires and create nasty shrapnel when destroyed, the shrapnel will fly inwards and if your shell is large enough they will take out the entire crew. However, this shot will most likely only leave the Tiger II unable to move for a minute and make his operator quite angry (at you) while his gun remains perfectly operational and before you have a chance to reload you will most likely receive a very accurate shot from an irritated Tiger II operator.
 The lower frontal plate is a good place to hit but it should be a second option, with this tank, you need to disable that gun as soon as possible, the turret is a very reliable target at close range, even with HEAT ammo you should be able to deliver a shot that will disable its firing capability for long enough for you to reload and shoot again. Using your best AP round for this is recommended since the frontal turret has a fairly thick (but flat) plate if nothing else works try APCR.

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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' ([[Abbreviations#.28DE.29_Sd.Kfz._Index|Sd.Kfz. Index:]] '''Sd.Kfz. 182''') is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} German heavy tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.57 "Battle March"]].
-As a purchasable bundle vehicle, this variant comes with premium bonuses and the experimental installation of a diesel power engine, increasing its mobility vastly. Besides this, the Sla.16 functions near identically to the in-tree regular variant. It fits into the 6.7 line-up very well and can be utilised greatly in battle because of its enhanced combat capabilities.
+As part of a purchasable bundle, this variant comes with premium bonuses and the experimental installation of a diesel engine, vastly increasing its mobility. But besides that, the Sla.16 works almost exactly like the regular tech-tree version. It fits very well into the 6.7 line-up and because of its enhanced combat capabilities, can be utilised in battle to great effect.
 == General info ==
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 <!-- ''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.'' -->
-The frontal armour of the Tiger II is average with its 150 mm sloped armour, and the turret armour, which is 185 mm flat armour, can be penetrated by a most of the tanks at its battle rating and a bit less when fighting in a down-tier, but still 90% of the tanks will penetrate your turret from the front. Angling this tank can save your driver and radio operator behind the thick front armour, but only them. You cannot angle the turret so it's a gamble if you end the game with the original gunner or your radio operator sitting in the gunner seat.
+The frontal protection of the Tiger II is average with 150 mm sloped armour, while the 185 mm strong flat turret armour can be penetrated by most tanks at its BR and slightly fewer in a down-tier. Still, a large percentage of the tanks encountered in a typical battle will be able to penetrate the turret frontally. Angling this tank can save both driver and radio operator behind the comparatively thick frontal armour, but only them. Since it would be unwise to angle the turret, it's a matter of luck if the battle ends with the original gunner or the radio operator sitting in the gunner seat.
-The side and back armour are pitiful with only 100 mm at its thickest, some SPAA at the rank can penetrate the sides so it is advised to never show your back or sides to an enemy lest you want to go back to the hangar. It is slightly more armoured than its non-premium counterpart with added tracks on the sides on the turret, adding an extra 30 mm of armour to the very weak sides.
+The side and back armour is weak, only 100 mm at its thickest. Some SPAA at rank IV can penetrate back and sides, so it is advised to always face the enemy to not be forced to go back to the hangar. The Sla.16 is slightly more armoured than its non-premium counterpart, with additional 30 mm thick tracks on the sides on the turret.
 === Mobility ===
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 {{tankMobility|abMinHp=968|rbMinHp=663}}
-The top speed on-road forwards is around 42-44 km/h, and the reverse speed is surprisingly good at -11 km/h (RB). These speeds combined with neutral steering mean the {{PAGENAME}} is quite agile despite its heavy tank status. The engine has a lot of horsepower and climbing hills is surprisingly easy with this variant of the famed King Tiger.
+The top speed on-road is around 42-44 km/h, and the reverse speed is surprisingly good at -11 km/h (RB). These speeds combined with neutral steering mean the {{PAGENAME}} is quite agile despite its heavy tank status. The engine has a lot of horsepower, and climbing hills is surprisingly easy with this variant of the famed King Tiger.
 === Modifications and economy ===
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 {{main|KwK43 (88 mm)}}
-The main gun this Panzer beholds is the long-barreled 88 mm KwK43 gun. This gun performs astoundingly well for this BR, offering high muzzle velocity with more than enough post-penetration damage. The muzzle velocity of this gun sits at around 1,000 m/s for APCBC and 1,400 m/s for the APCR round, and also has HEAT shells, making it an exceptional sniper and brawler alike. The APCBC stock shell gets a fair amount of explosive filler with a wide knock-out capability upon penetration. This shell excels in ammo-racking enemy tanks, so aim for ammo stowage on the enemy vehicle. The APCR should only really be used for engagements on enemies you cannot punch through with APCBC alone, since it offers significantly higher penetration at the expense of post-penetration damage, making it a very situational round. The same can be applied to the HEAT shell for long-range, as penetration drop-off does not matter on angled armour layouts, but instead offers poorer penetration values.
+The main gun of this tank is the long-barreled 88 mm KwK43 cannon, which performs astoundingly well for this BR, offering high muzzle velocity with more than enough post-penetration damage. The muzzle velocity of this gun sits at around 1,000 m/s for APCBC and 1,400 m/s for the APCR round, and also has HEAT shells, making it an exceptional sniper and brawler alike. The APCBC stock shell gets a fair amount of explosive filler with a wide knock-out capability upon penetration. This shell excels in ammo-racking enemy tanks, so aim for ammo stowage on the enemy vehicle. The APCR should only really be used for engagements on enemies you cannot punch through with APCBC alone, since it offers significantly higher penetration at the expense of post-penetration damage, making it a very situational round. The same can be applied to the HEAT shell for long-range, as penetration drop-off does not matter on angled armour layouts, but instead offers poorer penetration values.
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=germ_pzkpfw_VI_ausf_b_tiger_IIh_sla Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 ;Sights
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/post/675135/en/ RideR2's Realistic gunsight (TZF4a, TZF 5a/b/d/e/f/f2, TZF 9b/b1/c/d, TZF 12/a) for Pzkpfw II, Pzkpfw III, Pzkpfw IV, Pzkpfw V, Pzkpfw VI]

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 ==== Ammunition ====
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+{{:KwK43 (88 mm)/Ammunition|PzGr 39/43, PzGr 40/43, Hl.Gr 39, Sprgr.43}}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====

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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=germ_pzkpfw_VI_ausf_b_tiger_IIh_sla Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 ;Sights
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/post/675135/en/ RideR2's Realistic gunsight (TZF4a, TZF 5a/b/d/e/f/f2, TZF 9b/b1/c/d, TZF 12/a) for Pzkpfw II, Pzkpfw III, Pzkpfw IV, Pzkpfw V, Pzkpfw VI]
 ;Videos
-{{Youtube-gallery|H5no8rcdihw|'''Should You Buy The {{PAGENAME}}?''' - ''Sako Sniper''|kntDJpF3Yao|'''{{PAGENAME}} Tank Review''' - ''NUSensei''|N5YJmEcfLxQ|'''The Shooting Range #5''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 03:12 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}
+{{Youtube-gallery|H5no8rcdihw|'''Should You Buy The Tiger II (H) Sla.16?''' - ''Sako Sniper''|N5YJmEcfLxQ|'''The Shooting Range #5''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 03:12 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}
 == See also ==

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 <!-- ''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.'' -->
-The frontal armour of the Tiger II is average with its 150mm and the turret armour  which is 185mm can be penetrated by a most of the tanks at its battle rating and a bit less when fighting in a down-tier, but still 90% of the tanks will pen your turret from the front. Angling this tank can save your driver and radio operator , but Only them. You cant angle the turret so it's a gamble if you end the game with the original gunner or your radio operator sits in the gunner seat.  The side and back armour are pitiful with only 100 mm at its thickest, some SPAA at the rank can penetrate the sides so it is advised to never show your back or sides to an enemy lest you want to go back to the hangar/garage. It is slightly more armoured then its non-premium counterpart with added tracks on the sides on the turret, adding an extra 30 mm of armour to the very weak sides.
+The frontal armour of the Tiger II is average with its 150 mm sloped armor, and the turret armour, which is 185 mm flat armour, can be penetrated by a most of the tanks at its battle rating and a bit less when fighting in a down-tier, but still 90% of the tanks will penetrate your turret from the front. Angling this tank can save your driver and radio operator behind the thick front armour, but only them. You cannot angle the turret so it's a gamble if you end the game with the original gunner or your radio operator sitting in the gunner seat.
 === Mobility ===
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 * Optics have magnification levels of 2.5x-5.0x. Really good for close range target acquisition and long range sniping
 * 22 shells in the first stage ammo rack, giving this tank an impressive 7.5 seconds reload rate when equipped with an ace crew
-* Pretty average frontal armour. The upper front plate offers ~200~210mm protection which is not enough even at lower BRs
+* Front armour excels against most kinetic shells, though is lacking against APDS or HEAT shells that may be encountered
 * Enemy shells that penetrate the lower plate will likely have all of its damage absorbed by the transmission
 * Same small turret as the Tiger II H, but has 30 mm of track armour covering the entire exterior of the turret sides
-* Turret front is a small target, and the gun mantlet is  large and offers ~340 mm protection which is alright but not excellent
+* Turret front is a small target, and the gun mantlet is large, offers ~340 mm of protection, and angled to an extent that can bounce most rounds
 * Armed with 12-rounds, semi-automatic smoke grenade launcher
 * Thanks to its diesel engine, this tank has better acceleration and hill-climbing speed than the standard Tiger II (H)
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 '''Cons:'''
-* While being a small target, the turret front is weakly armoured when facing even lower BR tanks
+* While being a small target, most enemy tanks can penetrate the weakly armoured turret front
 * All 22 rounds in the first stage ammo rack are located in the back of the turret. Shells entering the back of the turret will likely lead to an ammo explosion
 * Both of the upper hull sides are lined with ammo. Any shells penetrating these areas almost always mean certain death
 * The APCR shells are lacklustre and inferior to most of the contemporary US APCR rounds
-* Terrible HEAT and HE shells. Load only a handfull of HE for really soft targets.
+* Terrible HEAT and HE shells. Load only a handful of HE shells for really soft targets.
 * Though the transmission will routinely eat enemy shells, that doesn't change the fact that the tank can still be immobilized from both front and rear shots
 * Still a heavy tank, most mediums will have no problems catching up/flanking the tank if the player is not paying attention
 * The roof mounted MG34 has a high rate of fire, but still only fires 8 mm bullets. Critically damaging enemy planes is unlikely
-* Even in its BR and at lower BRs, the {{PAGENAME}} will routinely fight vehicles that were literally designed to kill tanks like the Tiger II (6.0BR M-51 with 400mm pen HEAT Shells)
+* The {{PAGENAME}} can frequently face tanks with guns capable of penetrating the armour easily, such as the [[M-51]] with its 400 mm penetrating HEAT shells
 == History ==