Template talk:TankMobility - Revision history

U28580205: /* Removal of AoA Weight if none is specified */ My opinion

2020-02-11T16:45:11Z

‎Removal of AoA Weight if none is specified: My opinion

U16697154: Proposal: Removal of AoA Weight if none is specified

2020-02-09T19:41:50Z

Proposal: Removal of AoA Weight if none is specified

U30585107 at 02:30, 8 February 2020

2020-02-08T02:30:38Z

U38088265: Re

2020-02-07T21:09:14Z

U30585107: comments on edits

2020-02-07T20:51:12Z

comments on edits

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==AoA weight==
I personally believe that something that is going to be N/A ~95% of the time should just default to it.
Also the mass from Specs does include AoA weight so it'll need to be overwritten though then you have to choose which weight you want to use to calculate the hp/ton.--[[User:U30585107|U30585107]] ([[User talk:U30585107|talk]]) 20:50, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

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 ==Removal of AoA Weight if none is specified==
-I think this template is amazing. Great idea to integrate the sidebar data and the parser function extension math to make this. However, add on armor is more the exception rather than the norm. Im proposing that when add on armor value is not passed to the template (empty parameter), the template should remove the AoA section and expand the max speed and weight sections to maintain a consistant table width instead of the current ___ empty statement.
+I think this template is amazing. Great idea to integrate the sidebar data and the parser function extension math to make this. However, add on armor is more the exception rather than the norm. Im proposing that when add on armor value is not passed to the template (empty parameter), the template should remove the AoA section and expand the max speed and weight sections to maintain a consistent table width instead of the current ___ empty statement.
 I have not yet tested the following edits but the concept should be solid:
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 Any thoughts? --[[User:U16697154|U16697154]] ([[User talk:U16697154|talk]]) 19:41, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

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	: I'd tend to agree, but I think having N/A there will discourage people from adding the correct AoA weight since they'll just assume that it doesn't have AoA. A solution for mass might be to deduct the inputted AoA weight from <nowiki>{{Specs\|mass}}</nowiki> (and just leave it if AoA is N/A or __). I believe weight without AoA is used for the current hp/ton values. -[[User:U38088265\|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265\|talk]]) 21:08, 7 February 2020 (UTC)		: I'd tend to agree, but I think having N/A there will discourage people from adding the correct AoA weight since they'll just assume that it doesn't have AoA. A solution for mass might be to deduct the inputted AoA weight from <nowiki>{{Specs\|mass}}</nowiki> (and just leave it if AoA is N/A or __). I believe weight without AoA is used for the current hp/ton values. -[[User:U38088265\|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265\|talk]]) 21:08, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
	::My solution for people assuming AoA didn't exist was to have the parameter in comments like this: <nowiki>{{tankmobility\|<!--aoaweight-->}}</nowiki> whenever it is used. I would suggest calculating hp/ton as without AoA for stock and with AoA for spaded. So think of it as a entirely stock tank vs an entirely spaded tank.--[[User:U30585107\|U30585107]] ([[User talk:U30585107\|talk]]) 02:30, 8 February 2020 (UTC)		::My solution for people assuming AoA didn't exist was to have the parameter in comments like this: <nowiki>{{tankmobility\|<!--aoaweight-->}}</nowiki> whenever it is used. I would suggest calculating hp/ton as without AoA for stock and with AoA for spaded. So think of it as a entirely stock tank vs an entirely spaded tank.--[[User:U30585107\|U30585107]] ([[User talk:U30585107\|talk]]) 02:30, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
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		+	==Removal of AoA Weight if none is specified==
		+	I think this template is amazing. Great idea to integrate the sidebar data and the parser function extension math to make this. However, add on armor is more the exception rather than the norm. Im proposing that when add on armor value is not passed to the template (empty parameter), the template should remove the AoA section and expand the max speed and weight sections to maintain a consistant table width instead of the current ___ empty statement.
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		+	I have not yet tested the following edits but the concept should be solid:
		+	<nowiki> ! colspan="3" \| Mobility characteristics </nowiki>
		+	<nowiki> ! colspan="{{#if:{{{AoAweight\|}}}\|3\|2}}" \| Mobility characteristics </nowiki>
		+	...
		+	<nowiki> ! {{Annotation\|AoA Weight\|Add-on Armour Weight (tons)}} </nowiki>
		+	<nowiki> {{#if:{{{AoAweight\|}}}\|<th> {{Annotation\|AoA Weight\|Add-on Armour Weight (tons)}}}} </nowiki>
		+	...
		+	<nowiki> \| rowspan="2" \| {{{AoAweight\|__}}} </nowiki>
		+	<nowiki> {{#if:{{{AoAweight\|}}}\|<td> rowspan="2" <td> {{{AoAweight\|}}}}} </nowiki>
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		+	Any thoughts? --[[User:U16697154\|U16697154]] ([[User talk:U16697154\|talk]]) 19:41, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

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	Also the mass from Specs does include AoA weight so it'll need to be overwritten though then you have to choose which weight you want to use to calculate the hp/ton.--[[User:U30585107\|U30585107]] ([[User talk:U30585107\|talk]]) 20:50, 7 February 2020 (UTC)		Also the mass from Specs does include AoA weight so it'll need to be overwritten though then you have to choose which weight you want to use to calculate the hp/ton.--[[User:U30585107\|U30585107]] ([[User talk:U30585107\|talk]]) 20:50, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
	: I'd tend to agree, but I think having N/A there will discourage people from adding the correct AoA weight since they'll just assume that it doesn't have AoA. A solution for mass might be to deduct the inputted AoA weight from <nowiki>{{Specs\|mass}}</nowiki> (and just leave it if AoA is N/A or __). I believe weight without AoA is used for the current hp/ton values. -[[User:U38088265\|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265\|talk]]) 21:08, 7 February 2020 (UTC)		: I'd tend to agree, but I think having N/A there will discourage people from adding the correct AoA weight since they'll just assume that it doesn't have AoA. A solution for mass might be to deduct the inputted AoA weight from <nowiki>{{Specs\|mass}}</nowiki> (and just leave it if AoA is N/A or __). I believe weight without AoA is used for the current hp/ton values. -[[User:U38088265\|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265\|talk]]) 21:08, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
		+	::My solution for people assuming AoA didn't exist was to have the parameter in comments like this: <nowiki>{{tankmobility\|<!--aoaweight-->}}</nowiki> whenever it is used. I would suggest calculating hp/ton as without AoA for stock and with AoA for spaded. So think of it as a entirely stock tank vs an entirely spaded tank.--[[User:U30585107\|U30585107]] ([[User talk:U30585107\|talk]]) 02:30, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

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	I personally believe that something that is going to be N/A ~95% of the time should just default to it.		I personally believe that something that is going to be N/A ~95% of the time should just default to it.
	Also the mass from Specs does include AoA weight so it'll need to be overwritten though then you have to choose which weight you want to use to calculate the hp/ton.--[[User:U30585107\|U30585107]] ([[User talk:U30585107\|talk]]) 20:50, 7 February 2020 (UTC)		Also the mass from Specs does include AoA weight so it'll need to be overwritten though then you have to choose which weight you want to use to calculate the hp/ton.--[[User:U30585107\|U30585107]] ([[User talk:U30585107\|talk]]) 20:50, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
		+	: I'd tend to agree, but I think having N/A there will discourage people from adding the correct AoA weight since they'll just assume that it doesn't have AoA. A solution for mass might be to deduct the inputted AoA weight from <nowiki>{{Specs\|mass}}</nowiki> (and just leave it if AoA is N/A or __). I believe weight without AoA is used for the current hp/ton values. -[[User:U38088265\|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265\|talk]]) 21:08, 7 February 2020 (UTC)