Tempest Mk V - Revision history

U44629479: Undo revision 192574 by U146226939 (talk)

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Undo revision 192574 by U146226939 (talk)

U146226939: /* Usage in battles */ someone accidentally typed a y after at amount of rp rockets

2024-09-14T22:32:03Z

‎Usage in battles: someone accidentally typed a y after at amount of rp rockets

U38088265: /* Suspended armament */ Updated

2023-11-04T10:13:39Z

‎Suspended armament: Updated

U38088265: /* In-game description */ Reformatted

2022-10-20T21:00:02Z

‎In-game description: Reformatted

U44629479: Edits

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U94309259: Use in CAS

2022-07-31T13:42:10Z

Use in CAS

U84033996: /* Pros and cons */ Removed con about hispano consistency seeing as their new damage profile makes them far more consistent.

2021-11-05T03:03:29Z

‎Pros and cons: Removed con about hispano consistency seeing as their new damage profile makes them far more consistent.

U44629479: Edits

2021-05-26T08:49:13Z

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U36317457: /* Pros and cons */

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‎Pros and cons

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 ;As a CAS fighter
+Carrying payload vastly superior to that of Spitfires, and performing much better than the [[Hornet Mk.III]] when it comes to dogfights, the Tempest Mk V is a good pick for close air support in mixed ground battles. Its 2 x 1,000 lb bombs are enough to take out any tank within a 5 m radius, and the airframe is capable of pulling out of high-speed dives. It also has access to 8 x [[RP-3]] rockets; while they may struggle to penetrate heavier tanks even from the side, a hit on the top of the turret will often knock out the target.
 The 20 mm Hispano Mk.V's ground targets belt lacks power to penetrate medium and heavy tanks' turrets even when fired directly from above, but these guns are accurate enough to shoot engine decks from a fair distance, which often knocks out the engine and/or sets the fuel tanks on fire, even with just a few shots.

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 ;As a CAS fighter
-Carrying payload vastly superior to that of Spitfires, and performing much better than the [[Hornet Mk.III]] when it comes to dogfights, the Tempest Mk V is a good pick for close air support in mixed ground battles. Its 2 x 1,000 lb bombs are enough to take out any tank within a 5 m radius, and the airframe is capable of pulling out of high-speed dives. It also has access to 8 y [[RP-3]] rockets; while they may struggle to penetrate heavier tanks even from the side, a hit on the top of the turret will often knock out the target.
 The 20 mm Hispano Mk.V's ground targets belt lacks power to penetrate medium and heavy tanks' turrets even when fired directly from above, but these guns are accurate enough to shoot engine decks from a fair distance, which often knocks out the engine and/or sets the fuel tanks on fire, even with just a few shots.

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 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-{{main|G.P. Mk.IV (250 lb)|G.P. Mk.IV (500 lb)|M.C. 1,000 lb Mk.I (1,000 lb)|RP-3}}
+{{main|G.P. Mk.IV (250 lb)|G.P. Mk.IV (500 lb)|S.A.P. Mk.II (500 lb)|M.C. Mk.I (1,000 lb)|RP-3}}
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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 * 2 x 250 lb G.P. Mk.IV bombs (500 lb total)
 * 2 x 500 lb G.P. Mk.IV bombs (1,000 lb total)
-* 2 x 1,000 lb M.C. 1,000 lb Mk.I bombs (2,000 lb total)
+* 2 x 500 lb S.A.P. Mk.II bombs (1,000 lb total)
 * 8 x RP-3 rockets

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 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
-=== In-game description ===
+{{break}}
 From its initial conception, the Hawker Tempest was conceived of as a replacement for the Typhoon, a fighter-bomber created by the Hawker company in 1941. The Typhoon had many deficiencies such as an unreliable engine, insufficient structural strength leading in some cases to the entire tail detaching, sub-standard rate of climb and a poor high altitude performance. Because of these it could not compete with the latest fighter of the time, the German Focke-Wolf FW190, and the Typhoon's was removed from its planned role as an interceptor and used mainly for ground strike missions. The Tempest prototype, first flown in February 1943, inherited some of the traits of its older brother, but experts took into account Hawker's negative experience and did their best to refine the aerodynamic shape of the new aircraft. The wing was slightly shorter, the profile more slender, and the back edge elliptical. To compensate for the fuel capacity lost in the new, thinner wings, another fuel tank was added to the fuselage which accounted for the increased length of the aircraft. Consequently, the tail section was also modified, most noticeably by a fairing fitted to the vertical fin's leading edge and an increase of the tail plane chord.
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 Front line service for the Tempest began in April 1944, when 50 Tempest Mk Vs formed the first Tempest Wing at Newchurch. The Tempest Wing was particularly active in the build up to D-Day, but when the first German V-1 flying bombs began to fall on British soil, the Tempest was found to be one of the only fighters fast enough to counter the new threat. Fast, manoeuvrable and heavily armed, the Tempest was also able to prove a threat to the Messerschmitt Me 262 jet fighter, with 20 262s being destroyed by Tempests. Some 1700 Tempests were manufactured until the aircraft was phased out of service with the RAF in 1949.
 == Media ==

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-The Tempest Mk.V has a fairly average level of survivability compared to most single engine fighters. In terms of armour, the pilot is protected by 16.9 mm of steel in their seat, and 44.5 mm of bulletproof glass at the front of the cockpit. This armour will protect the pilot against machinegun and some cannon rounds from the direct front and rear, but is fairly weak and does not cover all angles. The Napier Sabre 2 24 cylinder engine is somewhat robust, and should continue to function for some time after being hit with a few rounds. The plane will continue to fly after taking some hits to the fuselage, wings, or tail, but with increasingly dramatic reductions in manoeuvrability as more damage is taken. Especially hits to the wings dis-balance the plane, and make turning especially difficult. Overall the plane should not be expected to survive long against enemies with substantial levels of firepower (such as the [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG-151]] cannon).
+The Tempest Mk.V has a fairly average level of survivability compared to most single engine fighters. In terms of armour, the pilot is protected by 16.9 mm of steel in their seat, and 44.5 mm of bulletproof glass at the front of the cockpit. This armour will protect the pilot against machine gun and some cannon rounds from the direct front and rear, but is fairly weak and does not cover all angles. The Napier Sabre 2 24 cylinder engine is somewhat robust, and should continue to function for some time after being hit with a few rounds. The plane will continue to fly after taking some hits to the fuselage, wings, or tail, but with increasingly dramatic reductions in manoeuvrability as more damage is taken. Especially hits to the wings dis-balance the plane, and make turning especially difficult. Overall the plane should not be expected to survive long against enemies with substantial levels of firepower (such as the [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG-151]] cannon).
 === Modifications and economy ===
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 The Tempest Mk. V excels at low to medium altitude battles, performing both as a Boom'n'Zoomer, ground attacker or energy fighter. To efficiently utilise its full engine power, do not get above 6,000 m or 19,000 ft, as the engine power drops significantly beyond that point. However, due to the supercharged engine, it outperforms aircraft like the Fw 190 D-9 by far at high altitudes (over 7,600 m or 25,000 ft) but gets obliterated by Ta 152Hs and some Bf 109 models, such as the K-4s and G-10s. To counter the BF109K-4, pilot Pierre Clostermann was quoted as saying:
-"Tempest V. Messerschmitts: I kept on reminding my pilots to keep their speed above 300 m.p.h., for "109's" could turn better than we could at low speed, and you had to watch out for the 30 mm cannon in their propeller - it didn't give you a second chance. The best technique was to do a spiral dive, work up to a speed of 450 m.p.h., do a straight climb and then start all over again. The "109's" on the other hand, knowing that we dived faster than they did, tried to get us up to 16,000 feet, where our Tempests were heavy and our engines sluggish."
+"Tempest V. Messerschmitts: I kept on reminding my pilots to keep their speed above 300 mph, for Bf 109s could turn better than we could at low speed, and you had to watch out for the 30 mm cannon in their propeller - it didn't give you a second chance. The best technique was to do a spiral dive, work up to a speed of 450 mph, do a straight climb and then start all over again. The Bf 109s on the other hand, knowing that we dived faster than they did, tried to get us up to 16,000 feet, where our Tempests were heavy and our engines sluggish."
 In Arcade battles, stick with WEP on and Boom & Zoom tactics. On realistic you can try the above strategy, but you may find that due to mouse aim some adaptations must be implemented. Don't lose sight of your attacker and be on guard for when his cannon fires. As soon as you see the barrel flash, you have about 0.7 seconds to take your plane out of the way, depending on the distance. At that point, you can throw off his aim by performing a low Yo-Yo to gain more speed and proceed to zoom away if you're below 3,000 m or 10,000 ft, because at this altitude your engine should provide enough power for you to outrun the BF109K-4 or G-10. However, you may find that the Tempest Mk.V is a cinder brick because you accelerate stupidly fast diving straight to the ground. When in trouble at high heights, dive like there is no tomorrow.
-==== As CAS Fighter: ====
+;As a CAS fighter
-Tempest is one of the better British aircraft for mixed battles at its rating, carrying payload vastly superior to that of Spitfires, and performing much better than [[Hornet Mk.III|Hornet]] when it comes to dogfights. Its 2x[[M.C. Mk.I (1,000 lb)|1000lb M.C. Mk.I]] are enough to take out any tank within ~5m radius, and the airframe is capable of pulling out of all but the most extreme dive drops. It also has access to 8 tried and true [[RP-3]] rockets; while they may struggle to penetrate heavier tanks you will face even from the side, hit on the top of the turret will often one-shot the target.
+Carrying payload vastly superior to that of Spitfires, and performing much better than the [[Hornet Mk.III]] when it comes to dogfights, the Tempest Mk V is a good pick for close air support in mixed ground battles. Its 2 x 1,000 lb bombs are enough to take out any tank within a 5 m radius, and the airframe is capable of pulling out of high-speed dives. It also has access to 8 y [[RP-3]] rockets; while they may struggle to penetrate heavier tanks even from the side, a hit on the top of the turret will often knock out the target.
-[[Hispano Mk.V (20 mm)|Hispano Mk.V]]'s ground targets belt lacks penetration to kill medium and heavy tanks' crews even when fired directly from above, but it doesn't mean one should abandon it completely. These guns are accurate enough to shoot engine decks from a fair distance, which often knocks out the engine and/or sets the fuel tanks on fire, even with just a few shots. Immobilizing enemy tanks when they are engaged in battle or crossing an open spot is always a good help to the team on the ground.
+The 20 mm Hispano Mk.V's ground targets belt lacks power to penetrate medium and heavy tanks' turrets even when fired directly from above, but these guns are accurate enough to shoot engine decks from a fair distance, which often knocks out the engine and/or sets the fuel tanks on fire, even with just a few shots.
-Alternatively, you can also play an air superiority role. The advice is pretty much the same as for Air RB - stay high and stay fast.
+Eventually, once all ordnance has been expended, you can play an air superiority role by relying or your speed.
 === Manual Engine Control ===
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 == History ==
 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
 === In-game description ===
 From its initial conception, the Hawker Tempest was conceived of as a replacement for the Typhoon, a fighter-bomber created by the Hawker company in 1941. The Typhoon had many deficiencies such as an unreliable engine, insufficient structural strength leading in some cases to the entire tail detaching, sub-standard rate of climb and a poor high altitude performance. Because of these it could not compete with the latest fighter of the time, the German Focke-Wolf FW190, and the Typhoon's was removed from its planned role as an interceptor and used mainly for ground strike missions. The Tempest prototype, first flown in February 1943, inherited some of the traits of its older brother, but experts took into account Hawker's negative experience and did their best to refine the aerodynamic shape of the new aircraft. The wing was slightly shorter, the profile more slender, and the back edge elliptical. To compensate for the fuel capacity lost in the new, thinner wings, another fuel tank was added to the fuselage which accounted for the increased length of the aircraft. Consequently, the tail section was also modified, most noticeably by a fairing fitted to the vertical fin's leading edge and an increase of the tail plane chord.
-Due to the unavailability of Napier Sabre Mk IV engine, which was supposed to keep the new aircraft from having the Typhoon's "beard" radiator, the same Sabre Mk IIA engine, rated at 2180 HP, had to be installed; this was fitted with a de Havilland four bladed propeller. On the first batch of Tempests (100 aircraft) the armament stayed unchanged, but subsequent fighters had the long-barrelled Hispano Mk II gun replaced with the more rapid and light Hispano Mk V. The ammunition was also increased from 140 to 150 rounds per gun. Thanks to the strength of its wings, the aircraft could carry a substantial bomb load or two 500 lb or 1000 lb bombs, two 45 or 90 gallon fuel tanks, or eight 76 mm rockets. The Tempest proved far more successful and popular with its pilots than the Typhoon, eliminating its predecessor's shortcomings.
+Due to the unavailability of Napier Sabre Mk IV engine, which was supposed to keep the new aircraft from having the Typhoon's "beard" radiator, the same Sabre Mk IIA engine, rated at 2180 HP, had to be installed; this was fitted with a de Havilland four bladed propeller. On the first batch of Tempests (100 aircraft) the armament stayed unchanged, but subsequent fighters had the long-barrelled Hispano Mk II gun replaced with the more rapid and light Hispano Mk V. The ammunition was also increased from 140 to 150 rounds per gun. Thanks to the strength of its wings, the aircraft could carry a substantial bomb load or two 500 lb or 1,000 lb bombs, two 45 or 90 gallon fuel tanks, or eight 76 mm rockets. The Tempest proved far more successful and popular with its pilots than the Typhoon, eliminating its predecessor's shortcomings.
 Front line service for the Tempest began in April 1944, when 50 Tempest Mk Vs formed the first Tempest Wing at Newchurch. The Tempest Wing was particularly active in the build up to D-Day, but when the first German V-1 flying bombs began to fall on British soil, the Tempest was found to be one of the only fighters fast enough to counter the new threat. Fast, manoeuvrable and heavily armed, the Tempest was also able to prove a threat to the Messerschmitt Me 262 jet fighter, with 20 262s being destroyed by Tempests. Some 1700 Tempests were manufactured until the aircraft was phased out of service with the RAF in 1949.

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	In Arcade battles, stick with WEP on and Boom & Zoom tactics. On realistic you can try the above strategy, but you may find that due to mouse aim some adaptations must be implemented. Don't lose sight of your attacker and be on guard for when his cannon fires. As soon as you see the barrel flash, you have about 0.7 seconds to take your plane out of the way, depending on the distance. At that point, you can throw off his aim by performing a low Yo-Yo to gain more speed and proceed to zoom away if you're below 3,000 m or 10,000 ft, because at this altitude your engine should provide enough power for you to outrun the BF109K-4 or G-10. However, you may find that the Tempest Mk.V is a cinder brick because you accelerate stupidly fast diving straight to the ground. When in trouble at high heights, dive like there is no tomorrow.		In Arcade battles, stick with WEP on and Boom & Zoom tactics. On realistic you can try the above strategy, but you may find that due to mouse aim some adaptations must be implemented. Don't lose sight of your attacker and be on guard for when his cannon fires. As soon as you see the barrel flash, you have about 0.7 seconds to take your plane out of the way, depending on the distance. At that point, you can throw off his aim by performing a low Yo-Yo to gain more speed and proceed to zoom away if you're below 3,000 m or 10,000 ft, because at this altitude your engine should provide enough power for you to outrun the BF109K-4 or G-10. However, you may find that the Tempest Mk.V is a cinder brick because you accelerate stupidly fast diving straight to the ground. When in trouble at high heights, dive like there is no tomorrow.
		+
		+	==== As CAS Fighter: ====
		+	Tempest is one of the better British aircraft for mixed battles at its rating, carrying payload vastly superior to that of Spitfires, and performing much better than [[Hornet Mk.III\|Hornet]] when it comes to dogfights. Its 2x[[M.C. Mk.I (1,000 lb)\|1000lb M.C. Mk.I]] are enough to take out any tank within ~5m radius, and the airframe is capable of pulling out of all but the most extreme dive drops. It also has access to 8 tried and true [[RP-3]] rockets; while they may struggle to penetrate heavier tanks you will face even from the side, hit on the top of the turret will often one-shot the target.
		+
		+	[[Hispano Mk.V (20 mm)\|Hispano Mk.V]]'s ground targets belt lacks penetration to kill medium and heavy tanks' crews even when fired directly from above, but it doesn't mean one should abandon it completely. These guns are accurate enough to shoot engine decks from a fair distance, which often knocks out the engine and/or sets the fuel tanks on fire, even with just a few shots. Immobilizing enemy tanks when they are engaged in battle or crossing an open spot is always a good help to the team on the ground.
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		+	Alternatively, you can also play an air superiority role. The advice is pretty much the same as for Air RB - stay high and stay fast.

	=== Manual Engine Control ===		=== Manual Engine Control ===

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 * Poor engine performance at high altitudes
 * Sub-par manoeuvrability at low speeds
 == History ==
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=tempest_mkv Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 == See also ==
 ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

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 '''Pros:'''
 * Powerful engine providing both great acceleration and top speed below 3 km altitude
 * Powerful armament with lots of ammo allowing to stay a long time in battle and ability to take out even four-engined bombers easily
-* Air belts are extraordinarily powerful against aircraft
+* Air belts are powerful against aircraft
 '''Cons:'''
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 * Poor engine performance at high altitudes
 * Sub-par manoeuvrability at low speeds
-* High repair costs
+* 20 mm Hispano cannons can be rather inconsistent leading to "sparking"
 == History ==
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=tempest_mkv Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 ;Videos
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 == See also ==
 ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

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 * Powerful armament with lots of ammo allowing to stay a long time in battle and ability to take out even four-engined bombers easily
 * Excellent acceleration in dive
-* Pretty good maneuverability at high speeds
+* Good manoeuvrability at high speeds
-* Excellent climb rate
+* Good climb rate
 '''Cons:'''
 * Poor engine performance at high altitudes
-* Not good maneuverability at low speeds
+* Mediocre manoeuvrability at low speeds
 * High repair costs
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=britain&vehicleType=aircraft&vehicleClass=fighter&vehicle=tempest_mkv Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 == See also ==
 ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''