Talk:Type 89 - Revision history

U42773747: /* Orielkon KDE gun */

2019-07-07T20:45:50Z

‎Orielkon KDE gun

U38088265: /* Orielkon KDE gun */ Response

2019-07-07T20:11:29Z

‎Orielkon KDE gun: Response

U42773747 at 19:09, 7 July 2019

2019-07-07T19:09:15Z

U42773747: Ammunition question

2019-05-18T18:48:18Z

Ammunition question

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==Real APHE stats?==

Can someone look up the real data on Type 89 APHE? The in-game tooltip says nothing except for penetration values. I do realise it's probably acting in same way as AP-I here, but it would help to understand how game works. Still got ways to go until i get this tank. --[[User:U42773747|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747|talk]]) 18:48, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

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	Should a separate page be made for KDE, as it uses different ammunition from KDA and fires at a different rate? Not sure how much different it was IRL and if statement in text regarding it being the same as on all SPAA is true. Also not sure if it's worth making separate page for it, but, like, it's not the same gun. It's same as comparing BMP 2 gun to ZPRK 256 guns, which have separate pages, i feel like. (look at stats question above) --[[User:U42773747\|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747\|talk]]) 19:09, 7 July 2019 (UTC)		Should a separate page be made for KDE, as it uses different ammunition from KDA and fires at a different rate? Not sure how much different it was IRL and if statement in text regarding it being the same as on all SPAA is true. Also not sure if it's worth making separate page for it, but, like, it's not the same gun. It's same as comparing BMP 2 gun to ZPRK 256 guns, which have separate pages, i feel like. (look at stats question above) --[[User:U42773747\|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747\|talk]]) 19:09, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
	: We already have a separate page for the [[Oerlikon KDE (35 mm)\|KDE]], the main page was incorrectly linked. (I have now changed it.) [[User:U38088265\|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265\|talk]]) 20:11, 7 July 2019 (UTC)		: We already have a separate page for the [[Oerlikon KDE (35 mm)\|KDE]], the main page was incorrectly linked. (I have now changed it.) [[User:U38088265\|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265\|talk]]) 20:11, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
		+	::I see. Not sure what to do with the text, though. --[[User:U42773747\|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747\|talk]]) 20:44, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

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	Should a separate page be made for KDE, as it uses different ammunition from KDA and fires at a different rate? Not sure how much different it was IRL and if statement in text regarding it being the same as on all SPAA is true. Also not sure if it's worth making separate page for it, but, like, it's not the same gun. It's same as comparing BMP 2 gun to ZPRK 256 guns, which have separate pages, i feel like. (look at stats question above) --[[User:U42773747\|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747\|talk]]) 19:09, 7 July 2019 (UTC)		Should a separate page be made for KDE, as it uses different ammunition from KDA and fires at a different rate? Not sure how much different it was IRL and if statement in text regarding it being the same as on all SPAA is true. Also not sure if it's worth making separate page for it, but, like, it's not the same gun. It's same as comparing BMP 2 gun to ZPRK 256 guns, which have separate pages, i feel like. (look at stats question above) --[[User:U42773747\|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747\|talk]]) 19:09, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
		+	: We already have a separate page for the [[Oerlikon KDE (35 mm)\|KDE]], the main page was incorrectly linked. (I have now changed it.) [[User:U38088265\|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265\|talk]]) 20:11, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

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	Can someone look up the real data on Type 89 APHE? The in-game tooltip says nothing except for penetration values. I do realise it's probably acting in same way as AP-I here, but it would help to understand how game works. Still got ways to go until i get this tank. --[[User:U42773747\|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747\|talk]]) 18:48, 18 May 2019 (UTC)		Can someone look up the real data on Type 89 APHE? The in-game tooltip says nothing except for penetration values. I do realise it's probably acting in same way as AP-I here, but it would help to understand how game works. Still got ways to go until i get this tank. --[[User:U42773747\|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747\|talk]]) 18:48, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
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		+	:As far as i noticed, it has a fuse of about 15 mm like normal APHE, bomb activation range seems to be about 1.3 m (pretty default), explosion damage is similar to entering damage it does, but is going in every direction. Ability to set ammo rack off with explosion damage in 1 hit, which means it's as strong as any APHE and far stronger than API-T, but it also can overpen. Normalization value is unknown, but it somehow penetrates backs of soviet medium tank turrets, so it can't be low. --[[User:U42773747\|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747\|talk]]) 19:09, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
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		+	Should a separate page be made for KDE, as it uses different ammunition from KDA and fires at a different rate? Not sure how much different it was IRL and if statement in text regarding it being the same as on all SPAA is true. Also not sure if it's worth making separate page for it, but, like, it's not the same gun. It's same as comparing BMP 2 gun to ZPRK 256 guns, which have separate pages, i feel like. (look at stats question above) --[[User:U42773747\|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747\|talk]]) 19:09, 7 July 2019 (UTC)