Ta 152 C-3 - Revision history

U44629479: Edits

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U146277834: small correction, this plane uses the mk 103, not the mk 108

2024-09-07T12:55:21Z

small correction, this plane uses the mk 103, not the mk 108

U145734171 at 15:25, 5 October 2023

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U38088265: /* Details */

2023-05-27T11:45:59Z

‎Details

U44629479: Edits

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U111324130: /* Usage in battles */

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‎Usage in battles

U82426691: /* Pros and cons */

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U82426691: /* Pros and cons */

2022-01-01T22:16:17Z

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 * 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)
-The high-velocity MK103 cannon is easy to aim and a huge improvement over the MK108 found on the H-1 model. The powerful Minengeschoß rounds usually knock out enemy planes with few rounds.
+The high-velocity MK 103 cannon is easy to aim and a huge improvement over the MK 108 found on the H-1 model. The powerful Minengeschoß rounds usually knock out enemy planes with few rounds.
 == Usage in battles ==
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-Currently the Ta 152 C-3 does not carry any under-wing ordnance, but it can perform rather lethal ground-pounding with its [[MK 103 (30 mm)]] cannon, if it is loaded with armoured target rounds (HVAP). Although, one must aim carefully and have good trigger discipline to knock out tanks, lest too many shells be wasted on a single vehicle. But for its intended role of air superiority, the combination of [[MG 151/20 (20 mm)|MG 151]] 20 mm cannons plus the aforementioned MK 103 is lethal against any aircraft in the game. However, the stock belts can be a bit of a pain to use, as half of the load are not the infamous German Minengeschoß (HEI).
+Currently the Ta 152 C-3 does not carry any under-wing ordnance, but it can perform rather lethal ground-pounding with its [[MK 103 (30 mm)|30 mm MK 103]] cannon, if it is loaded with armoured target rounds (HVAP). Although, one must aim carefully and have good trigger discipline to knock out tanks, lest too many shells be wasted on a single vehicle. But for its intended role of air superiority, the combination of [[MG 151/20 (20 mm)|20 mm MG 151]] cannons plus the MK 103 is lethal against any aircraft in the game. However, the stock belts can be a bit of a pain to use, as half of the load are not the infamous German Minengeschoß (HEI).
 The Ta 152 C-3 is somewhat of a combination of the Fw 190 D series and the Ta 152 H-1, it is easy to play, but difficult to master and is easily countered by the enemy, but that will not stop you from doing well with this aircraft as long as you fight engagements on your terms.
-Ta 152 C-3 is designed to be a low and medium attitude interceptor. But due to incorrect intelligence, Germany considered B-29 will reach 12000m. Ta 152 H is designed as a high attitude fighter which can attack B-29 bomber over 10000m. This means Ta 152 C-3 as a low and medium attitude interceptor is only compare to Ta152 H. Actually Ta 152 C-3 has very good high attitude performance compare to other propeller fighter.
+Ta 152 C-3 is designed to be a low and medium attitude interceptor. But due to incorrect intelligence, Germany considered B-29 will reach 12,000 m. Ta 152 H is designed as a high attitude fighter which can attack B-29 bomber over 10,000 m. This means Ta 152 C-3 as a low and medium attitude interceptor is only compare to Ta 152 H. Actually Ta 152 C-3 has very good high attitude performance compare to other propeller fighter.
 * Prioritize the most agile enemies first, like Spitfires and Mustangs

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 ;Ta 152C variant
-The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted  through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />
+The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 103 Motorkanone which was mounted  through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />
 == Media ==

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 The Ta 152 C-3 is somewhat of a combination of the Fw 190 D series and the Ta 152 H-1, it is easy to play, but difficult to master and is easily countered by the enemy, but that will not stop you from doing well with this aircraft as long as you fight engagements on your terms.
 * Prioritize the most agile enemies first, like Spitfires and Mustangs
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 * Can perform a tank-buster role despite not having bombs or rockets due to the high velocity 30 mm AP belt
 * Can immediately research the 20 mm and 30 mm belts
 '''Cons:'''
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 * Slow, coupled with average climb rate makes it an easy target after conducting a boom-and-zoom attack
 * Poor turn rate, even worse than the Fw 190 series
 * Easy to counter and has few options of escape when chased
 * Stock performance is awful

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 * 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, nose-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)
 * 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)
 == Usage in battles ==
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 The Ta 152 C-3 is somewhat of a combination of the Fw 190 D series and the Ta 152 H-1, it is easy to play, but difficult to master and is easily countered by the enemy, but that will not stop you from doing well with this aircraft as long as you fight engagements on your terms.
-* Prioritize enemies with the most agile enemies first, like Spitfires and Mustangs
+* Prioritize the most agile enemies first, like Spitfires and Mustangs
 * Only engage enemy fighters when they are distracted at something else or if you have the advantage or when there are no other targets in your vicinity
-* Despite being heavily armoured, you are not invincible, head on engagements eventually will take the toll on your plane, so fight smart by firing first when you are around 1.8 km away and immediately roll or bank to dodge their bullets
+* Despite being heavily armoured, you are not invincible, head-on engagements eventually will take the toll on your plane, so fight smart by firing first when you are around 1.2 km away and immediately roll or bank to dodge their bullets
 * Although it is tempting, engaging ground units should be the least of your priorities unless there are no other targets nearby
 * HVAP shells can destroy AI light tanks and medium tanks in one hit from any direction, heavy tanks can only be killed from the side or behind.
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 '''Pros:'''
-* Powerful armament of five cannons.
+* Powerful armament of five cannons
-* Nose-mounted armament allows very tight spread of shells when firing.
+* Nose-mounted armament allows very tight spread of shells when firing
-* Small recoil allows the plane to not slow down much when firing all its guns.
+* Small recoil allows the plane to not slow down much when firing all its guns
-* Durable and well armoured, both pilot and engine are protected.
+* Durable and well armoured, both pilot and engine are protected
-* Very effective bomber hunter.
+* Armour is enough to deflect machine gun rounds from bombers' gunners
-* Armour is enough to deflect machine gun rounds from bombers' gunners though try not to get hit in the first place.
+* Very effective bomber hunter
-* Incredibly strong at head-on engagements and will often survive unharmed or with minor damage.
+* Incredibly strong at head-on engagements and will often survive unharmed or with minor damage
-* Effective flaps offset the poor turn rate, landing flaps allow this plane to keep up with some nimbler fighters.
+* Effective flaps offset the poor turn rate, landing flaps allow this plane to keep up with some nimbler fighters
-* Decent energy retention, although not as good as the H-1 model.
+* Decent energy retention, although not as good as the H-1 model
-* Great roll rate, better than the H-1 model.
+* Great roll rate, better than the H-1 model
-* Gets an airspawn which offsets the low rate of climb.
+* Gets an airspawn
-* Incredible dive performance, better than the H-1 model due to stronger, shorter wings which only rip at 915 km/h (570 mph).
+* Incredible dive performance, better than the H-1 model due to stronger, shorter wings which only rip at 915 km/h (570 mph)
-* High velocity MK103 cannon is easy to aim and a huge improvement to the MK108 found on the H-1 model.
+* Can perform a tank-buster role despite not having bombs or rockets due to the high velocity 30 mm AP belt
-* Powerful Minengeschoß rounds usually one shot an enemy.
+* Can immediately research the 20 mm and 30 mm belts
 '''Cons:'''
-* Below average rate of climb, slightly worse than the H-1 model.
+* Below average rate of climb, slightly worse than the H-1 model
-* Slow, coupled with average climb rate makes it an easy target after conducting a boom-and-zoom attack.
+* Slow, coupled with average climb rate makes it an easy target after conducting a boom-and-zoom attack
-* Poor turn rate, even worse than the Fw 190 series.
+* Poor turn rate, even worse than the Fw 190 series
-* Poor high altitude performance.
+* Poor high altitude performance
-* Easy to counter and has few options of escape when chased.
+* Easy to counter and has few options of escape when chased
-* Stock performance is awful.
+* Stock performance is awful
-* Feels heavier and more sluggish to fly than the H-1 model.
+* Feels heavier and more sluggish to fly than the H-1 model
-* Engine often overheats above 3,500 m.
+* Engine often overheats above 3,500 m
 == History ==