TBF-1C - Revision history

U38088265: /* Suspended armament */ Updated

2023-11-04T10:14:45Z

‎Suspended armament: Updated

U48664895: Updated description to new format

2023-09-19T02:14:19Z

Updated description to new format

U88703799: /* Pros and cons */

2023-07-21T20:46:32Z

‎Pros and cons

U88703799: /* Usage in battles */

2023-07-07T14:31:25Z

‎Usage in battles

U38088265: /* Suspended armament */ Updated

2023-06-18T11:17:00Z

‎Suspended armament: Updated

U44629479: Edits

2023-02-18T09:52:42Z

Edits

U118123450: Mention of bomb sight

2023-02-17T13:39:33Z

Mention of bomb sight

U38088265: /* Suspended armament */

2022-12-10T13:39:20Z

‎Suspended armament

U38088265: /* In-game description */ Reformatted

2022-10-20T21:03:17Z

‎In-game description: Reformatted

U38088265: /* Details */

2022-06-02T13:14:35Z

‎Details

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-To replace the outdated TBD Devastator, several companies put forth their designs. Grumman’s design was the TBF Avenger, a single-engine torpedo bomber. It was to be fitted with the Wright R-2600-8, a double-row 14-cylinder radial engine that produced 1,700 hp. Although it was extremely heavy, the U.S. Navy selected Grumman’s design and ordered two prototypes in 1940. One special feature of the TBF Avenger was the Sto-Wings which folded the wings inwards to remedy the issue with the heights of carrier hangar decks. The TBF Avenger would be widely used by both the U.S. and Royal Navy during the war. American Avengers saw use at the Battle of Eastern Solomons and Guadalcanal; managing to sink a Japanese light carrier and a battleship. They also brought havoc against submarine crews such as I-52.
+To replace the outdated TBD Devastator, several companies put forth their designs. Grumman's design was the TBF Avenger, a single-engine torpedo bomber. It was to be fitted with the Wright R-2600-8, a double-row 14-cylinder radial engine that produced 1,700 hp. Although it was extremely heavy, the U.S. Navy selected Grumman's design and ordered two prototypes in 1940. One special feature of the TBF Avenger was the Sto-Wings which folded the wings inwards to remedy the issue with the heights of carrier hangar decks. The TBF Avenger would be widely used by both the U.S. and Royal Navy during the war. American Avengers saw use at the Battle of Eastern Solomons and Guadalcanal; managing to sink a Japanese light carrier and a battleship. They also brought havoc against submarine crews such as I-52.
-Introduced since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27, the '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a decent torpedo bomber. It has access to AN-M66A2 (2,000 lb) bombs as well as Mk. 13-6 torpedos. Defensive armament is lacking with only one single 12.7 mm turret providing fire from the top and a single 7.62 turret mounted in the underside. The Avenger does have two 12.7 mm machine guns for offensive fire but is quite lacklustre. The TBF-1C Avenger is a formidable torpedo bomber however it’s very vulnerable to enemy fighters.
+Introduced since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27, the '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a decent torpedo bomber. It has access to AN-M66A2 (2,000 lb) bombs as well as Mk. 13-6 torpedos. Defensive armament is lacking with only one single 12.7 mm turret providing fire from the top and a single 7.62 turret mounted in the underside. The Avenger does have two 12.7 mm machine guns for offensive fire but is quite lacklustre. The TBF-1C Avenger is a formidable torpedo bomber however it's very vulnerable to enemy fighters.
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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-Mk 1 (1,600 lb)|AN-M66A2 (2,000 lb)|Mk.13-6 (2,216 lb)|Mk.13-6 Case (2,216 lb)}}
+{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|A.P. AN-MK 33 (1,000 lb)|AN-Mk 1 (1,600 lb)|AN-M66A2 (2,000 lb)}}
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 * 4 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
 * 1 x 2,216 lb Mk.13-6 torpedo
 * 1 x 2,216 lb Mk.13-6 Case torpedo
 === Defensive armament ===

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.
+To replace the outdated TBD Devastator, several companies put forth their designs. Grumman’s design was the TBF Avenger, a single-engine torpedo bomber. It was to be fitted with the Wright R-2600-8, a double-row 14-cylinder radial engine that produced 1,700 hp. Although it was extremely heavy, the U.S. Navy selected Grumman’s design and ordered two prototypes in 1940. One special feature of the TBF Avenger was the Sto-Wings which folded the wings inwards to remedy the issue with the heights of carrier hangar decks. The TBF Avenger would be widely used by both the U.S. and Royal Navy during the war. American Avengers saw use at the Battle of Eastern Solomons and Guadalcanal; managing to sink a Japanese light carrier and a battleship. They also brought havoc against submarine crews such as I-52.
 == General info ==

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 * Wing mounted 12.7 mm machine guns factoring in convergence
 * Poor low altitude performance, especially when turning
-* Relatively slow
+* Heavy and fairly slow
 * Ventral gunner has little protection, easily knocked out
 * Only has landing flaps

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 Fly low and fast, head towards your target, drop your ordnance and bug out. However, if there are no hostile fighters in the area, you can destroy some enemy ground installations, e.g. AA, light vehicles, landing crafts and anti-tank positions after this.
-Despite being a light bomber/torpedo bomber, the Avenger comes with a bombsight, just like the old TBD Dauntless, albeit without the telescopic sight in the pilot's cockpit. This makes precision bombing in Realistic battles possible, as even novice pilots will be able to drop the 500 kg bombs with excellent accuracy. Once you spot a target, fly out about 1.5 km horizontally from the target (remember to keep focus on said target and its general location while being aware of any obstacles in your way), then begin to slowly fly over said target. Open the bomb bay and switch to the bombsight view, then drop your ordnance.
+Despite being a light bomber/torpedo bomber, the Avenger comes with a bombsight, just like the old TBD Devastator, albeit without the telescopic sight in the pilot's cockpit. This makes precision bombing in Realistic battles possible, as even novice pilots will be able to drop the 500 kg bombs with excellent accuracy. Once you spot a target, fly out about 1.5 km horizontally from the target (remember to keep focus on said target and its general location while being aware of any obstacles in your way), then begin to slowly fly over said target. Open the bomb bay and switch to the bombsight view, then drop your ordnance.
 '''Simulator mode'''

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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|Mk.13-6 (2,216 lb)|Mk.13-6 Case (2,216 lb)}}
+{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-Mk 1 (1,600 lb)|AN-M66A2 (2,000 lb)|Mk.13-6 (2,216 lb)|Mk.13-6 Case (2,216 lb)}}
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 * 4 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
 * 1 x 2,216 lb Mk.13-6 torpedo
 * 1 x 2,216 lb Mk.13-6 Case torpedo

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 Fly low and fast, head towards your target, drop your ordnance and bug out. However, if there are no hostile fighters in the area, you can destroy some enemy ground installations, e.g. AA, light vehicles, landing crafts and anti-tank positions after this.
 '''Simulator mode'''
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=tbf-1c Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

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 Avengers from USS Enterprise (CV-6) crippled and assisted in the destruction of the 37,000 ton battleship IJN Hiei. Guadalcanal was the last large-scale Japanese naval attack and the Hiei was the first Japanese battleship sunk by US forces. TBF-1s were further used by Marine Scout Bombing Squadron 131 (VMSB-131).
-=== In-game description ===
+{{break}}
 The TBF Torpedo Bomber was created to replace the outdated [[TBD-1|Devastators]], which suffered from insufficient speed and short range. The TBF, also known as the Avenger, had good range and load capacity and the ability to carry cargo inside the fuselage. It was an ideal solution for a carrier-based transport aircraft. During the war, the Avenger earned a reputation as a very accurate bomber.
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 The TBF was widely used during World War II by not only U.S. forces but also those of Great Britain and New Zealand. In Great Britain, the aircraft was named the Tarpon and was one of the most extensively used British torpedo-bombers.
 == Media ==

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 ! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
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-| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || N/A || 285 || ~6 || ~2
+| 612 <!-- {{Specs|destruction|body}} --> || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || N/A || 285 || ~6 || ~2
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 {{Specs-Economy}}
 Flight performance is often a secondary criteria for an attack bomber. Focus on improved armament, especially the Improved torpedo ([[Mk.13-1 Case (1,927 lb)|Mk.13-1 Case]]) that makes attacking ships much easier. Machine gun upgrades may not be needed initially, as the stock [[M2 Browning (12.7 mm)|M2 Browning]] does well enough. The turrets, however, profit from upgrades, gaining longer and more accurate fire.
 Of course, performance upgrades don't hurt (Compressor, Engine and Engine Injection are often essential pick-ups). Airframe and Cover can be used to further bolster the durable aircraft. Other upgrades can be scheduled toward the end.
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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|Mk.13-1 Case (1,927 lb)|Mk.13-1 (1,927 lb)}}
+{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|Mk.13-1 (1,927 lb)|Mk.13-1 Case (1,927 lb)}}
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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 As with all torpedo bombers, maintain low altitude, high speed, and fighter cover. The optimal distance for launching a torpedo is 1 km from the target. Engage enemy ships from directly ahead or astern which makes "leading" the target much easier. If torpedo bombing is not an option, the TBF-1C can carry bombs for attacking ground targets.
 The Avenger lacks much significant offensive armament, but in a pinch it can serve as a backup fighter. This aircraft is not particularly fast or manoeuvrable, but continuing the trend among mid-tier American aircraft, it is extremely durable. Do not attack enemy aircraft head-on as the TBF-1C's guns are wing-mounted (causing convergence issues) and the large engine or pilot can be knocked out quickly by enemy fire.
 Fly low and fast, head towards your target, drop your ordnance and bug out. However, if there are no hostile fighters in the area, you can destroy some enemy ground installations, e.g. AA, light vehicles, landing crafts and anti-tank positions after this.
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 '''Battle Of Midway''' - June 4, 1942 <br>
 The Battle of Midway was a massive naval engagement that occurred 6 months after Pearl Harbour. Initiated by the Japanese, the attack on Midway was supposed to be a surprise attack that repeated their success at Pearl Harbor. However, due to American efforts in cracking Japanese communication codes in the days and weeks prior to the operation, the American defenders were warned about the attack far in advance.
 The first combat mission of the TBF-1 was on June 4, 1942 at the battle of Midway. Only six TBF-1s were available and were initially attached to torpedo squadron VT-8. All apart from one (with significant damage) were shot down during the battle.