TB-3M-17-32 - Revision history

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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rare premium gift Soviet bomber. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27. The TB-3M-17-32 is a truly a force to be reckoned with in the lowtiers of War Thunder. In dedicated air battles modes, primarily Air Realistic Battles, the aircraft shines due to its above average survivability, but moreso for its incredible bomb load, able to destroy up to five bombing points in Air Realistic Battles at its Battle Rating. The powerful ordnance load for the TB-3M is also its trump card in ground battles, albeit a little more difficult to use due to its cumbersome size and manoeuvrability, allowing it to be easily targeted as a giant target if it drops its altitude, but due to its large bomb load against the weakly armoured tanks of this tier, the TB-3M may prove to be a strong aircraft, raining hell from above if it can align its bombing runs properly.
-The TB-3 was given away as a reward vehicle for the 2013 [[wt:en/news/383--en|Winter Magic!]], the [[wt:en/news/2598--en|2014 War Thunder's birthday]], and the 2022 [[wt:en/news/7945-special-happy-anniversary-war-thunder-en|War Thunder's 10th Anniversary]] events. With the exception of a few rare appearances in the [[Warbonds]] shop and in various loot crates, this aircraft is unobtainable.
+The TB-3 was given away as a reward vehicle for the 2013 [[wt:en/news/383--en|Winter Magic!]], the [[wt:en/news/2598--en|2014 War Thunder's birthday]], and the 2022 [[wt:en/news/7945-special-happy-anniversary-war-thunder-en|War Thunder's 10th Anniversary]] events. With the exception of a few rare appearances in the [[Warbonds]] shop, this aircraft is unobtainable.
 == General info ==
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-=== Survivability and armor ===
+=== Survivability and armour ===
 {{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
 <!-- ''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.'' -->
-* No armor
+* No armour
 * Self-sealing fuel tanks (2 in each wing)
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 * Despite its low speed, not many planes are able to catch up to the TB-3 due to the altitude difference
 * It never rips itself from a dive
-* Surprisingly maneuverable for its size
+* Surprisingly manoeuvrable for its size
 * Gunners have plenty of ammo before reloading
 '''Cons'''
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 * Very slow speed
 * Very slow climb rate - the speed loss while climbing is very significant and can be deadly due to the low overall speed
-* Almost no speed reserve for maneuvering, especially apparent when landing
+* Almost no speed reserve for manoeuvring, especially apparent when landing
-* Basically incapable of maneuvering when attacked - survival depends on turret fire
+* There are no brakes, that you have to wait for the plane to glide to a full stop before rearming
 * Have no offensive armament and will require to slightly tip the plane forward for the turret to engage manually
 * No armour protection for the crew or modules
 * Large size makes large target for enemy fire, even flak
-* While relatively safe from fast interceptor fighters, the TB-3 is very vulnerable to agile and maneuverable planes
+* While relatively safe from fast interceptor fighters, the TB-3 is very vulnerable to agile and manoeuvrable planes
 == History ==

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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rare premium gift Soviet bomber. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27. The TB-3M-17-32 is a truly a force to be reckoned with in the lowtiers of War Thunder. In dedicated air battles modes, primarily Air Realistic Battles, the aircraft shines due to its above average survivability, but moreso for its incredible bomb load, able to destroy up to five bombing points in Air Realistic Battles at its Battle Rating. The powerful ordnance load for the TB-3M is also its trump card in ground battles, albeit a little more difficult to use due to its cumbersome size and manoeuvrability, allowing it to be easily targeted as a giant target if it drops its altitude, but due to its large bomb load against the weakly armoured tanks of this tier, the TB-3M may prove to be a strong aircraft, raining hell from above if it can align its bombing runs properly.
-The TB-3 was given away as a reward vehicle for the 2013 [[wt:en/news/383--en|Winter Magic!]], the [[wt:en/news/2598--en|2014 War Thunder's birthday]], and the 2022 [[wt:en/news/7945-special-happy-anniversary-war-thunder-en|War Thunder's 10th Anniversary]] events. With the exception of a few rare appearances in the [[Warbonds]] shop, this aircraft is unobtainable.
+The TB-3 was given away as a reward vehicle for the 2013 [[wt:en/news/383--en|Winter Magic!]], the [[wt:en/news/2598--en|2014 War Thunder's birthday]], and the 2022 [[wt:en/news/7945-special-happy-anniversary-war-thunder-en|War Thunder's 10th Anniversary]] events. With the exception of a few rare appearances in the [[Warbonds]] shop and in various loot crates, this aircraft is unobtainable.
 == General info ==
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-=== Survivability and armour ===
+=== Survivability and armor ===
 {{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
 <!-- ''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.'' -->
-* No armour
+* No armor
 * Self-sealing fuel tanks (2 in each wing)
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 * Despite its low speed, not many planes are able to catch up to the TB-3 due to the altitude difference
 * It never rips itself from a dive
-* Surprisingly manoeuvrable for its size
+* Surprisingly maneuverable for its size
 * Gunners have plenty of ammo before reloading
 '''Cons'''
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 * Very slow speed
 * Very slow climb rate - the speed loss while climbing is very significant and can be deadly due to the low overall speed
-* Almost no speed reserve for manoeuvring, especially apparent when landing
+* Almost no speed reserve for maneuvering, especially apparent when landing
-* There are no brakes, that you have to wait for the plane to glide to a full stop before rearming
+* Basically incapable of maneuvering when attacked - survival depends on turret fire
 * Have no offensive armament and will require to slightly tip the plane forward for the turret to engage manually
 * No armour protection for the crew or modules
 * Large size makes large target for enemy fire, even flak
-* While relatively safe from fast interceptor fighters, the TB-3 is very vulnerable to agile and manoeuvrable planes
+* While relatively safe from fast interceptor fighters, the TB-3 is very vulnerable to agile and maneuverable planes
 == History ==

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-In 1925, the rapidly modernizing and growing Red Army Air Force reached out to TsAGI (Central Aero-Hydrodynamic Institute) in Moscow to create a new "TB", or ''Тяжёлый Бомбардировщик (''Heavy Bomber) to replace the aging TB-1. Building on the existing civillian ANT-6 aircraft, a complete revision of the airframe led to the world's very first cantilever winged four engine heavy bomber. The TB-3M would be produced in many variants, ranging from standard bombers, to transport and paratrooper carriers, to even ideas as wild as specially modified arctic pole explorers and flying aircraft carriers for [[I-15 M-25|I-15]] and [[I-16 type 10|I-16]] fighters.
+In 1925, the rapidly modernizing and growing Red Army Air Force reached out to TsAGI (Central Aero-Hydrodynamic Institute) in Moscow to create a new "TB", or ''Тяжёлый Бомбардировщик'' (Heavy Bomber) to replace the aging TB-1. Building on the existing civilian ANT-6 aircraft, a complete revision of the airframe led to the world's very first cantilever winged four engine heavy bomber. The TB-3M would be produced in many variants, ranging from standard bombers, to transport and paratrooper carriers, to even ideas as wild as specially modified arctic pole explorers and flying aircraft carriers for [[I-15 M-25|I-15]] and [[I-16 type 10|I-16]] fighters.
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rare premium gift Soviet bomber. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27. It was given away as a reward vehicle for the 2013 [[wt:en/news/383--en|Winter Magic!]], the [[wt:en/news/2598--en|2014 War Thunder's birthday]], and the 2022 [[wt:en/news/7945-special-happy-anniversary-war-thunder-en|War Thunder's 10th Anniversary]] events. With the exception of a few rare appearances in the [[Warbonds]] shop, this aircraft is unobtainable. The TB-3M-17-32 is a truly a force to be reckoned with in the lowtiers of War Thunder. In dedicated air battles modes, primarily Air Realistic Battles, the aircraft shines due to its above average survivability, but moreso for its incredible bomb load, able to destroy up to five bombing points in Air Realistic Battles at its own Battle Rating, the powerful ordnance load for the TB-3M is also its trump card in ground battles, albeit a little more difficult to use due to its cumbersome size and manouverbility, allowing it to be easily targeted as a giant target if it drops its altitude, but due to its large bomb load against the weakly armored tanks of this tier, the TB-3M may prove to be a strong aircraft, raining hell from above if it can align its bombing runs properly.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rare premium gift Soviet bomber. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27. The TB-3M-17-32 is a truly a force to be reckoned with in the lowtiers of War Thunder. In dedicated air battles modes, primarily Air Realistic Battles, the aircraft shines due to its above average survivability, but moreso for its incredible bomb load, able to destroy up to five bombing points in Air Realistic Battles at its Battle Rating. The powerful ordnance load for the TB-3M is also its trump card in ground battles, albeit a little more difficult to use due to its cumbersome size and manoeuvrability, allowing it to be easily targeted as a giant target if it drops its altitude, but due to its large bomb load against the weakly armoured tanks of this tier, the TB-3M may prove to be a strong aircraft, raining hell from above if it can align its bombing runs properly.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27. It was given away as a reward vehicle for the 2013 [[wt:en/news/383--en|Winter Magic!]], the [[wt:en/news/2598--en|2014 War Thunder's birthday]], and the 2022 [[wt:en/news/7945-special-happy-anniversary-war-thunder-en|War Thunder's 10th Anniversary]] events. It could also be obtained on occasion, when it appears in the [[Warbonds]] shop.
+In 1925, the rapidly modernizing and growing Red Army Air Force reached out to TsAGI (Central Aero-Hydrodynamic Institute) in Moscow to create a new "TB", or ''Тяжёлый Бомбардировщик (''Heavy Bomber) to replace the aging TB-1. Building on the existing civillian ANT-6 aircraft, a complete revision of the airframe led to the world's very first cantilever winged four engine heavy bomber. The TB-3M would be produced in many variants, ranging from standard bombers, to transport and paratrooper carriers, to even ideas as wild as specially modified arctic pole explorers and flying aircraft carriers for [[I-15 M-25|I-15]] and [[I-16 type 10|I-16]] fighters.
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=tb_3_m17_32 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 ;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era
 * [[F.222.2]]

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 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
-=== In-game description ===
+{{break}}
 A four-motor all-metal monoplane with fixed landing gear and a crew of 12. Designed in the AGOS department (Aviation, Hydroaviation and Experimental Construction) of the TsAGI (Central Aerohydrodynamic Institute) under the direction of A.N. Tupolev.
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 Its standard bomb load amounted to 2,000 kg. When overloaded (by reducing its fuel supply) the aircraft could carry up to five tons of ordnance.
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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27. It was given away as a reward vehicle for the 2013 [[wt:en/news/383--en|Winter Magic!]] and [[wt:en/news/2598--en|2014's War Thunder's birthday]] events and can only be obtained on occasion, when it appears in the [[Warbonds]] shop.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27. It was given away as a reward vehicle for the 2013 [[wt:en/news/383--en|Winter Magic!]] and [[wt:en/news/2598--en|2014 War Thunder's birthday]] events and can only be obtained on occasion, when it appears in the [[Warbonds]] shop.
 == General info ==
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 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-TB-3 is, in a nutshell, a typical heavy bomber, and a very heavy, very slow one at that. It packs a truly majestic payload of 3,000 kilos of bombs, however, the problem is in getting this payload to its target. The maximum speed of TB-3 is less than 200 km/h and its flight will take a really long time during which the giant TB-3 will become a very easy and enticing target for all enemy fighters and even some bombers. All this combined with practically non-existent manoeuvrability makes this bomber a very vulnerable one and its pilots may consider themselves lucky if they reach the target - not mentioning the route back. However, the TB-3 is not at all defenceless. Five turrets with a total of eight 7.62 mm DA machine guns present quite an effective firepower - at least against fighters of the TB-3 age. When attacked, don't even bother with manoeuvres, man the turrets and open fire, it is the only hope of the TB. The effectiveness of the turret fire is multiplied thanks to one previously mentioned factor - very low speed. As the maximum speed of TB-3 is equal to a terminal speed of most of the fighters, these fighters will often have a hard time intercepting the TB, while the TB gunners will gain a great opportunity of hitting slowly approaching enemy planes. This tactics, however, doesn't work very well when attacked from below. In that case, pray.
+TB-3 is, in a nutshell, a typical heavy bomber, and a very heavy, very slow one at that. It packs a truly majestic payload of 3,000 kg of bombs, however, the problem is in getting this payload to its target. The maximum speed of TB-3 is less than 200 km/h and its flight will take a really long time during which the giant TB-3 will become a very easy and enticing target for all enemy fighters and even some bombers. All this combined with practically non-existent manoeuvrability makes this bomber a very vulnerable one and its pilots may consider themselves lucky if they reach the target - not mentioning the route back. However, the TB-3 is not at all defenceless. Five turrets with a total of eight 7.62 mm DA machine guns present quite an effective firepower - at least against fighters of the TB-3 age. When attacked, don't even bother with manoeuvres, man the turrets and open fire, it is the only hope of the TB. The effectiveness of the turret fire is multiplied thanks to one previously mentioned factor - very low speed. As the maximum speed of TB-3 is equal to a terminal speed of most of the fighters, these fighters will often have a hard time intercepting the TB, while the TB gunners will gain a great opportunity of hitting slowly approaching enemy planes. This tactics, however, doesn't work very well when attacked from below. In that case, pray.
 === Manual Engine Control ===
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 '''Cons'''
-* Very slow speed - is one of the slowest planes in the game
+* Very slow speed
 * Very slow climb rate - the speed loss while climbing is very significant and can be deadly due to the low overall speed
 * Almost no speed reserve for manoeuvring, especially apparent when landing