TAM 2IP - Revision history

U38088265: Reverted edits by U74808637 (talk) to last revision by U38088265

2023-10-21T19:42:19Z

Reverted edits by U74808637 (talk) to last revision by U38088265

U74808637: Undo revision 123667 by U28580205 (talk)

2023-10-21T18:48:12Z

Undo revision 123667 by U28580205 (talk)

U38088265: /* Ammunition */ Converted to transclusion

2023-02-02T23:09:54Z

‎Ammunition: Converted to transclusion

U44629479: Edits

2022-11-09T00:13:22Z

Edits

U30821137: added pros & cons

2022-11-08T17:26:45Z

added pros & cons

U579909: modified the armor and survivability part since i havent found any chamical round after 6.0 that cant penetrate this tank. modified the front part too the mirror what i wroite in the first part and added a back part to point out the armor weakness

2022-11-05T18:50:15Z

modified the armor and survivability part since i havent found any chamical round after 6.0 that cant penetrate this tank. modified the front part too the mirror what i wroite in the first part and added a back part to point out the armor weakness

U38088265: /* Ammunition */ Updated

2022-10-04T18:03:12Z

‎Ammunition: Updated

U38088265: /* Ammunition */ Updated

2022-08-10T15:38:29Z

‎Ammunition: Updated

U28580205: /* History */

2022-02-21T14:18:55Z

‎History

U44629479: Edits

2022-02-17T22:43:11Z

Edits

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 Base armour of the TAM 2IP is very thin, just an 11 mm plate angled at 74° on the upper frontal glacis, and 15 mm of armour on the sides. Turret is not something to boast about either - the strongest plate being a gun mantlet with a 30 mm plate and sides being 25 mm thin.
-On the bright side, the 2IP version is fitted with Iron Wall add-on comp0
+On the bright side, the 2IP version is fitted with Iron Wall add-on composite armour. This variable thickness armour package increases effectiveness of armour against late Cold War era chemical munitions, but has no effect on kinetic penetrators.
 '''Front'''
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 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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-! colspan="5" | [[FMK.4 Modelo 1L (105 mm)|105 mm FMK.4 Modelo 1L]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (100°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
+! colspan="5" | [[FMK.4 Modelo 1L (105 mm)|105 mm FMK.4 Modelo 1L]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
 |-
 ! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
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 == History ==
 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
 The TAM 2IP is the second improved version of the [[TAM|Tanque Argentino Mediano (TAM)]] in its modernization process after the [[TAM 2C]]. It was officially presented to the public on May 29, 2016 during the celebrations for the Day of the Argentine Army. The project is part of the collaboration program with the Israel Military Industries (IMI), the modernization project adds an additional armour kit along the chassis, the front and the sides of the turret, as well as side skirts.

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 Base armour of the TAM 2IP is very thin, just an 11 mm plate angled at 74° on the upper frontal glacis, and 15 mm of armour on the sides. Turret is not something to boast about either - the strongest plate being a gun mantlet with a 30 mm plate and sides being 25 mm thin.
-On the bright side, the 2IP version is fitted with Iron Wall add-on composite armour. This variable thickness armour package increases effectiveness of armour against late Cold War era chemical munitions, but has no effect on kinetic penetrators.
+On the bright side, the 2IP version is fitted with Iron Wall add-on comp0
 '''Front'''
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 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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-! colspan="5" | [[FMK.4 Modelo 1L (105 mm)|105 mm FMK.4 Modelo 1L]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
+! colspan="5" | [[FMK.4 Modelo 1L (105 mm)|105 mm FMK.4 Modelo 1L]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (100°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
 |-
 ! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
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 == History ==
 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
 The TAM 2IP is the second improved version of the [[TAM|Tanque Argentino Mediano (TAM)]] in its modernization process after the [[TAM 2C]]. It was officially presented to the public on May 29, 2016 during the celebrations for the Day of the Argentine Army. The project is part of the collaboration program with the Israel Military Industries (IMI), the modernization project adds an additional armour kit along the chassis, the front and the sides of the turret, as well as side skirts.

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 * '''DM33 APFSDS''' - Best round available to the TAM 2IP and third best NATO round available for 105 mm cannons. It allows the player to engage '''any''' enemies at the TAM 2IP's BR at any range reliably. Even higher BR vehicles are not safe. Player should be of note that this round can easily over penetrate light vehicles such as BMP-2 or SPAAGs, so aiming at vital components is preferred in order to create shrapnel necessary to destroy them.
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+{{:FMK.4 Modelo 1L (105 mm)/Ammunition|DM12, DM512, DM23, DM33}}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====

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 Base armour of the TAM 2IP is very thin, just an 11 mm plate angled at 74° on the upper frontal glacis, and 15 mm of armour on the sides. Turret is not something to boast about either - the strongest plate being a gun mantlet with a 30 mm plate and sides being 25 mm thin.
-On the bright side, the 2IP version is fitted with Iron Wall add-on composite armour. This variable thickness armour package increases effectiveness of armour against late war era chemical munitions, but has no effect on kinetic penetrators.
+On the bright side, the 2IP version is fitted with Iron Wall add-on composite armour. This variable thickness armour package increases effectiveness of armour against late Cold War era chemical munitions, but has no effect on kinetic penetrators.
 '''Front'''
-Most noticeable increase in protection is on the upper plate of the hull, but sadly this doesn't help much since it offers only ~300mm protection against chemical rounds which are a rarity above 6.0 .
+Most noticeable increase in protection is on the upper plate of the hull, but sadly this doesn't help much since it offers only ~300 mm protection against chemical rounds which are a rarity at its BR .
 Add-on protection on the turret is not enough to defeat those same munitions. Frontal arc protection against autocannons is mostly great, but occasional lucky shots can penetrate the turret ring.
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 '''Back'''
-Since it's a light tank you wont show your back too much but i didn't recieve any addon armor so it's really easy to penetrate even by br 1.0 tanks.
+Since it's a light tank you won't show your back too much but it didn't receive any add-on armour so it's really easy to penetrate.
 '''Crew'''
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 * Same mobility as regular TAM, despite add-on armour
 * Wide selection of ammunition
-* Laserrangefinder
+* Laser rangefinder
 '''Cons:'''
 * Despite add-on armour, protection remains somewhat poor
 * No thermals
 * Lacks smoke shell, limiting its tactical potential
 == History ==

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 * Same mobility as regular TAM, despite add-on armour
 * Wide selection of ammunition
 '''Cons:'''
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 * No thermals
 * Lacks smoke shell, limiting its tactical potential
 == History ==

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 ! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
 ! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
-! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
+! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>mass (kg)
 ! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
 ! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
-! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
+! rowspan="2" | Explosive mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
 ! colspan="3" | Ricochet
 |-
 ! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
 |-
-| DM12 || HEATFS || 1,173 || 10.5 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 1,270 || 65° || 72° || 77°
+| DM12 || HEATFS || 1,174 || 10.5 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 1,270 || 65° || 72° || 77°
 |-
-| DM512 || HESH || 732 || 14.85 || 0.1 || 4 || 4,310 || 73° || 77° || 80°
+| DM512 || HESH || 732 || 11.2 || 0.1 || 4 || 4,310 || 73° || 77° || 80°
 |-
-| DM23 || APFSDS || 1,455 || 3.79 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°
+| DM23 || APFSDS || 1,455 || 4.2 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°
 |-
 | DM33 || APFSDS || 1,455 || 3.79 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°

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 * '''DM12 HEATFS''' - HEAT round does not lose penetration with distance travelled. Unlike kinetic penetrators, it has one downside: given that it is a chemical round, its fuse is highly sensitive. With the emergence of composite and reactive armour, it quickly became obsolete in the anti-tank role. Requires careful aiming to properly damage newer tanks, though it can hold its own while fighting older tanks, lighter vehicles and low-flying helicopters.
-* '''DM502 HESH''' - This round was always plagued by a plethora of problems: low velocity, low penetration, inconsistent mechanics and sensitive fuse make this round gimmicky at best. That being said, with the overpressure mechanic, this round can be used in CQB against light vehicles with devastating effect.
+* '''DM512 HESH''' - This round was always plagued by a plethora of problems: low velocity, low penetration, inconsistent mechanics and sensitive fuse make this round gimmicky at best. That being said, with the overpressure mechanic, this round can be used in CQB against light vehicles with devastating effect.
 * '''DM23 APFSDS''' - This round allows the player to engage modern tanks more reliably, since it performs better against composite and reactive armour. While penetration is sufficient relative to the TAM 2IP's BR, there is simply no use for this round as its direct upgrade is available from the get go.
 * '''DM33 APFSDS''' - Best round available to the TAM 2IP and third best NATO round available for 105 mm cannons. It allows the player to engage '''any''' enemies at the TAM 2IP's BR at any range reliably. Even higher BR vehicles are not safe. Player should be of note that this round can easily over penetrate light vehicles such as BMP-2 or SPAAGs, so aiming at vital components is preferred in order to create shrapnel necessary to destroy them.
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 | DM12 || HEATFS || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400
 |-
-| DM502 || HESH || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127
+| DM512 || HESH || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127
 |-
 | DM23 || APFSDS || 337 || 335 || 330 || 322 || 314 || 306
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 | DM12 || HEATFS || 1,173 || 10.5 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 1,270 || 65° || 72° || 77°
 |-
-| DM502 || HESH || 732 || 14.85 || 0.1 || 4 || 4,310 || 73° || 77° || 80°
+| DM512 || HESH || 732 || 14.85 || 0.1 || 4 || 4,310 || 73° || 77° || 80°
 |-
 | DM23 || APFSDS || 1,455 || 3.79 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°

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 == History ==
+<!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
-''The TAM 2IP is a Second Improved Version of the TAM in the Modernization Process of the [[TAM|Tanque Argentino Mediano (TAM)]], it was officially presented to the public on May 29, 2016 during the Celebrations for the Day of the Argentine Army''
+[[File:TAM 2IP_.jpg|right|thumb|200px]]
+The TAM 2IP is the second improved version of the [[TAM|Tanque Argentino Mediano (TAM)]] in its modernization process after the [[TAM 2C]]. It was officially presented to the public on May 29, 2016 during the celebrations for the Day of the Argentine Army. The project is part of the collaboration program with the Israel Military Industries (IMI), the modernization project adds an additional armour kit along the chassis, the front and the sides of the turret, as well as side skirts.
 == Media ==
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 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=germ_thyssen_henschel_tam_2ip Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 == See also ==