T-62 545 (China) - Revision history

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Re-evaluation of the T-62 No.545 as the realities presented in the old article (it having no lineup etc) are simply no longer true with many supporting vehicles existing alongside it now.

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Chinese medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]]. The tank was initially purchasable as part of a [[wt:en/news/6353-development-new-war-thunder-nation-china-en|premiums pack]] in the Gaijin store but was removed in [[wt:en/news/6694-shop-may-sale-in-war-thunder-en|May 2020]]. The T-62 has been since made made available for purchase in-game ({{GE}}) for specific mini-events like the [[wt:en/news/7042-special-lunar-new-year-and-valentine-s-day-en|2021 "Lunar New Year"]] and [[wt:en/news/7534-special-lunar-new-year-en|2022 "Lunar New Year"]] events.
+After the worsening of the Sino-Soviet relationship and further escalation of the threat of nuclear strikes, the armed conflict between two countries finally broke out on Damansky/Zhenbao Island on the Ussuri River. On March 15th, 1969, T-62 №545 crossed the frozen Ussuri River to assault the island, but it was disabled by Chinese artillery and mines, forcing the crews to abandon the vehicle alongside their commander. After artillery wars to gain control of the vehicle, the Soviets sank the tank with artillery fire. A month later, the PLAGF recovered the tank with the help of PLAN divers, and it was sent to Beijing for further evaluations.
-The T-62 №545 is identical to the Soviet [[T-62]], being an example captured by the Chinese military during the Sino-Soviet border conflicts. After the worsening of Sino-Soviet relationship and further escalation of the threat on nuclear strikes, the armed conflict between two countries finally outbroke on the Damansky Island/Zhenbao Island on the Ussuri River; on March 15th, 1969, T-62 №545 crossed the frozen Ussuri to assault the island but it was then disabled by Chinese artillery and mines which the crews have to abandon the vehicle alongside with its commander. After artillery wars to gain control of the vehicle, Soviets sank the tank with artillery fire; a month later, PLAGF recovered the tank with the help of PLAN divers and was sent to Beijing for further evaluations. It differs from its Soviet counterpart by the "545" numbering on the turret sides, access to Chinese camouflages, and a lack of spare track link attachment points on its upper and lower glacis. Of course, these details have little relevance in battle, and as a T-62 it features a powerful 115 mm smoothbore cannon that performs far better than the [[Type 69]]'s domestic cannon, with some technologies reverse-engineered and used for revising the flawed Type 69.
+Introduced in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]] as part of a [[wt:en/news/6353-development-new-war-thunder-nation-china-en|premiums pack]] in the Gaijin store, the T-62 №545 is identical in performance to the Soviet [[T-62]]. It differs from its Soviet counterpart by the "545" numbering on the turret sides, access to Chinese camouflages, and a lack of spare track link attachment points on its upper and lower glacis. Of course, these details have little relevance in battle, and as a T-62 it features a powerful 115 mm smoothbore cannon that performs far better than the [[Type 69]]'s domestic cannon, with some technologies reverse-engineered and used for revising the flawed Type 69.
 == General info ==
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 The T-62 is similar to Chinese MBTs such as the [[Type 59]] or the [[ZTZ59D1]]. As usual with Chinese MBTs, only the turret has armour to speak of. Do not let this put you off as the T-62's 115 mm U-5TS is a formidable cannon, capable of dealing with practically any tank it faces. This comes at the cost of a somewhat slower reload time of 12.0s (9.2s if maxed crew), which is below average for its BR. All in all, the T-62 will give Chinese tankers a general idea of how to play upcoming MBTs, as the playstyle doesn't change much. Outside of its slow reload it has excellent reactive mobility and armor while not nonexistent will generally not stop enemy shells - something that is more exemplified the higher up the tree you go.
 At its current Battle Rating of 8.7, the T-62 No.545 finds itself in a very solid spot. While supporting vehicles such as the [[WMA301]] and its tech tree contemporary the [[PTL02]] are now 9.0, it now has an abundance of other vehicles around its BR bracket that support it very nicely. On the ground front, you have the [[CM25]] with its TOW-2Bs that offers a way to deal with hull-down, often very hard to smoke out campers with top attack ATGMs as a good support vehicle, as well as the [[Type 69-IIa]] at 8.3 that has a laser rangefinder alongside a solid selection of APDS, HEATFS and APHE ammunition on a stabilized platform. The [[T-69 II G]] is also a contemporary at 8.7 that has the WMA301's gun; However, its reload and armor leave much to be desired and will often relegate it to a more secondary role. The [[PTZ89]] offers a tech tree [[Object 120]] style vehicle with a stabilizer and 5 second ready rack (and a 12.7mm MG for self defense!), and the [[PGZ09]] with its radar and [[WZ305]] with its proximity fuse shells shut down enemy aircraft handily. The squadron vehicle [[Object 122MT "MC"]] is also an 8.7 MBT that greatly augments your lineup, with 4 externally mounted ATGMs for longer range enemies or as a finishing tool alongside essentially the same APFSDS (3BM3, 3BM4) rounds in the form of the 120-I and 120-II shells respectively in terms of performance, as well as a HEATFS round. It may also be a better option over the T-62 No.545 in uptiers as it is just as mobile while having a laser rangefinder (which the T-62 lacks) alongside similar shells with 4 extra ATGMs.
 For aircraft and helicopters you gain access to a wide variety of planes, a much needed overhaul from the MiG-9s and F-84s of the 7.X brackets. You can bring either the [[J-2]] (Identical to the [[MiG-15bis]] in the USSR tree) or the [[F-86F-30 (China)]], the former having either 2x100kg bombs or unguided rockets while the latter has the option of 2x1000lb bombs (which drop in pairs) or 12 HVARs. TheJ-2 has the advantage of harder hitting cannons, while the Sabre handles better in the roll axis and has better CAS options alongside much more 12.7mm MG ammo to spray at enemies. For helicopters you gain access to the [[Z-11WA]], which has access to HJ-8A ATGMs even when stock (2 of the 4 missiles are available stock). While not the most hard hitting ATGM of its tier nor the longest ranged with only 1.96kg TNT equivalent alongside a 3km flight range ([[SS.11]]s on the [[H-34 (France)]], [[SA 313B Alouette II (Germany)]] and [[HKP2]] have 3.5km and the [[Mi-4AV]] has a 4km firing range), but as the helicopter is equipped with thermal vision you can spot and target enemies very effectively.
 It is best to find visual cover as soon as possible if an enemy plane was spotted as the tank does not have a roof mounted machine gun to protect itself from aircraft. It also lacks a laser rangefinder, which Type 69 users may have grown fond of, but the high velocity of the T-62's APFSDS makes it generally unnecessary at normal combat distances. Sniping helicopters may be more difficult due to the lack of said laser rangefinder, however.
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 ==== <u>Realistic & Simulator Battles</u> ====
 The T-62's low silhouette can surprise enemies, by allowing it to hide behind a small bush, hill, wall or vehicle and hold an ambush position overlooking an open area around an objective (e.g. around the city in Alaska, or in the forests on European Province). The low silhouette and the amazing gun should be used together to ambush enemies at any range, knocking them out with a single shot and then changing positions so that any call-outs on the enemy team are dated by the time they are relayed to each other.
 Long-range encounters are somewhat common in Realistic Battles, and they do favor the T-62 unless in a rather hilly environment, where the gun depression may not be enough. It is recommended to get into a sniping position at the start of the match, but after 3-5 shots attempt to push up closer to the objective(s). It is best to utilize the T-62's long range advantages as much as possible, but frequent switching of your locations can confuse enemies and create better firing angles for you, giving you an artificial advantage. If you see a teammate pushing in the same direction you are, you may choose to follow them, but stay some distance behind if you decide to do so. Chances are if there is an enemy ambush, they are going to fire at your teammate (who they see first) first, and you will in turn be able to disable or destroy the ambushers.

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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Chinese medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]]. The tank was initially purchasable as part of a [[wt:en/news/6353-development-new-war-thunder-nation-china-en|premiums pack]] in the Gaijin store but was removed in [[wt:en/news/6694-shop-may-sale-in-war-thunder-en|May 2020]]. The T-62 has been since made made available for purchase in-game ({{GE}}) for specific mini-events like the [[wt:en/news/7042-special-lunar-new-year-and-valentine-s-day-en|2021 "Lunar New Year"]] and [[wt:en/news/7534-special-lunar-new-year-en|2022 "Lunar New Year"]] events.
-The T-62 №545 is identical to the Soviet [[T-62]], being an example captured by the Chinese military during the Sino-Soviet border conflicts. It differs from its Soviet counterpart by the "545" numbering on the turret sides, access to Chinese camouflages, and a lack of spare track link attachment points on its upper and lower glacis. Of course, these details have little relevance in battle, and as a T-62 it features a powerful 115 mm smoothbore cannon that performs far better than the [[Type 69]]'s domestic cannon.
+The T-62 №545 is identical to the Soviet [[T-62]], being an example captured by the Chinese military during the Sino-Soviet border conflicts. After the worsening of Sino-Soviet relationship and further escalation of the threat on nuclear strikes, the armed conflict between two countries finally outbroke on the Damansky Island/Zhenbao Island on the Ussuri River; on March 15th, 1969, T-62 №545 crossed the frozen Ussuri to assault the island but it was then disabled by Chinese artillery and mines which the crews have to abandon the vehicle alongside with its commander. After artillery wars to gain control of the vehicle, Soviets sank the tank with artillery fire; a month later, PLAGF recovered the tank with the help of PLAN divers and was sent to Beijing for further evaluations. It differs from its Soviet counterpart by the "545" numbering on the turret sides, access to Chinese camouflages, and a lack of spare track link attachment points on its upper and lower glacis. Of course, these details have little relevance in battle, and as a T-62 it features a powerful 115 mm smoothbore cannon that performs far better than the [[Type 69]]'s domestic cannon, with some technologies reverse-engineered and used for revising the flawed Type 69.
 == General info ==
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 '''Armour type:'''
 * Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, cupola)
 * Cast homogeneous armour (turret)
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 ;Battle of Zhenbao/Damansky Island
 After an initial period of cooperation between the Soviet Union and the fledgeling People's Republic of China, the Sino-Soviet split of 1956 soured relations between the two countries, resulting in the former allies becoming regional rivals. In 1969, the tensions came to a head as the PRC and USSR clashed over the disputed Zhenbao/Damansky Island for seven months. On March 2, 1969, the Soviet Army used a large number of advanced tanks and armoured vehicles in the Zhenbao/Damansky Island incident. Despite the PLA's warning, the Soviets repeatedly attempted to seize the Zhenbao/Damansky Island by force. At 11:07 on March 15, when four Soviet [[T-62]] tanks formed a column to guide two armoured vehicles into the river branch on the west side of Zhenbao/Damansky Island, they were suddenly attacked by the ambush unit led by Yu Hongdong, the commander of the island garrison and reconnaissance platoon. In the panic, the Soviet force's leading T-62, No.545, drove into a hidden anti tank mine field set by the Chinese army earlier, and the right track was immediately blown up. The crew of the tank were killed by Chinese ambush detachment when abandoning the tank. The other three T-62 of the Soviet Army turned around and fled back along the same road. The T-62 whose track was broken by the anti tank mine was then left abandoned on the Chinese side of the ice-covered river.
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=cn_t_62 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 * Skins and camouflages for the [[T-62]] can be used for the {{PAGENAME}}.
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 ;Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
 * [[T-62 (Family)]]
 ;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
 * [[T-54/55 (Family)]]

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 The T-62 is similar to Chinese MBTs such as the [[Type 59]] or the [[ZTZ59D1]]. As usual with Chinese MBTs, only the turret has armour to speak of. Do not let this put you off as the T-62's 115 mm U-5TS is a formidable cannon, capable of dealing with practically any tank it faces. This comes at the cost of a somewhat slower reload time of 12.0s (9.2s if maxed crew), which is below average for its BR. All in all, the T-62 will give Chinese tankers a general idea of how to play upcoming MBTs, as the playstyle doesn't change much. Outside of its slow reload it has excellent reactive mobility and armor while not nonexistent will generally not stop enemy shells - something that is more exemplified the higher up the tree you go.
-At its current Battle Rating of 8.7, the T-62 No.545 finds itself in a very solid spot. While supporting vehicles such as the [[WMA301]] and its tech tree contemporary the [[PTL02]] are now 9.0, it now has an abundance of other vehicles around its BR bracket that support it very nicely. On the ground front, you have the [[CM25]] with its TOW-2Bs that offers a way to deal with hull-down, often very hard to smoke out campers with top attack ATGMs as a good support vehicle, as well as the [[Type 69-IIa]] at 8.3 that has a laser rangefinder alongside a solid selection of APDS, HEATFS and APHE ammunition on a stabilized platform. The [[T-69-IIG]] is also a contemporary at 8.7 that has the WMA301's gun; However, its reload and armor leave much to be desired and will often relegate it to a more secondary role. The [[PTZ89]] offers a tech tree [[Object 120]] style vehicle with a stabilizer and 5 second ready rack (and a 12.7mm MG for self defense!), and the [[PGZ09]] with its radar and [[WZ305]] with its proximity fuse shells shut down enemy aircraft handily. The squadron vehicle [[Object 122MT "MC"]] is also an 8.7 MBT that greatly augments your lineup, with 4 externally mounted ATGMs for longer range enemies or as a finishing tool alongside essentially the same APFSDS (3BM3, 3BM4) rounds in the form of the 120-I and 120-II shells respectively in terms of performance, as well as a HEATFS round. It may also be a better option over the T-62 No.545 in uptiers as it is just as mobile while having a laser rangefinder (which the T-62 lacks) alongside similar shells with 4 extra ATGMs.
+At its current Battle Rating of 8.7, the T-62 No.545 finds itself in a very solid spot. While supporting vehicles such as the [[WMA301]] and its tech tree contemporary the [[PTL02]] are now 9.0, it now has an abundance of other vehicles around its BR bracket that support it very nicely. On the ground front, you have the [[CM25]] with its TOW-2Bs that offers a way to deal with hull-down, often very hard to smoke out campers with top attack ATGMs as a good support vehicle, as well as the [[Type 69-IIa]] at 8.3 that has a laser rangefinder alongside a solid selection of APDS, HEATFS and APHE ammunition on a stabilized platform. The [[T-69 II G]] is also a contemporary at 8.7 that has the WMA301's gun; However, its reload and armor leave much to be desired and will often relegate it to a more secondary role. The [[PTZ89]] offers a tech tree [[Object 120]] style vehicle with a stabilizer and 5 second ready rack (and a 12.7mm MG for self defense!), and the [[PGZ09]] with its radar and [[WZ305]] with its proximity fuse shells shut down enemy aircraft handily. The squadron vehicle [[Object 122MT "MC"]] is also an 8.7 MBT that greatly augments your lineup, with 4 externally mounted ATGMs for longer range enemies or as a finishing tool alongside essentially the same APFSDS (3BM3, 3BM4) rounds in the form of the 120-I and 120-II shells respectively in terms of performance, as well as a HEATFS round. It may also be a better option over the T-62 No.545 in uptiers as it is just as mobile while having a laser rangefinder (which the T-62 lacks) alongside similar shells with 4 extra ATGMs.
 For aircraft and helicopters you gain access to a wide variety of planes, a much needed overhaul from the MiG-9s and F-84s of the 7.X brackets. You can bring either the [[J-2]] (Identical to the [[MiG-15bis]] in the USSR tree) or the [[F-86F-30 (China)]], the former having either 2x100kg bombs or unguided rockets while the latter has the option of 2x1000lb bombs (which drop in pairs) or 12 HVARs. TheJ-2 has the advantage of harder hitting cannons, while the Sabre handles better in the roll axis and has better CAS options alongside much more 12.7mm MG ammo to spray at enemies. For helicopters you gain access to the [[Z-11WA]], which has access to HJ-8A ATGMs even when stock (2 of the 4 missiles are available stock). While not the most hard hitting ATGM of its tier nor the longest ranged with only 1.96kg TNT equivalent alongside a 3km flight range ([[SS.11]]s on the [[H-34 (France)]], [[SA 313B Alouette II (Germany)]] and [[HKP2]] have 3.5km and the [[Mi-4AV]] has a 4km firing range), but as the helicopter is equipped with thermal vision you can spot and target enemies very effectively.

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Chinese medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]].
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Chinese medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]]. The tank was initially purchasable as part of a [[wt:en/news/6353-development-new-war-thunder-nation-china-en|premiums pack]] in the Gaijin store but was removed in [[wt:en/news/6694-shop-may-sale-in-war-thunder-en|May 2020]]. The T-62 has been since made made available for purchase in-game ({{GE}}) for specific mini-events like the [[wt:en/news/7042-special-lunar-new-year-and-valentine-s-day-en|2021 "Lunar New Year"]] and [[wt:en/news/7534-special-lunar-new-year-en|2022 "Lunar New Year"]] events.
 The T-62 №545 is identical to the Soviet [[T-62]], being an example captured by the Chinese military during the Sino-Soviet border conflicts. It differs from its Soviet counterpart by the "545" numbering on the turret sides, access to Chinese camouflages, and a lack of spare track link attachment points on its upper and lower glacis. Of course, these details have little relevance in battle, and as a T-62 it features a powerful 115 mm smoothbore cannon that performs far better than the [[Type 69]]'s domestic cannon. It does not have many supporting Rank VI vehicles to form a lineup with, but №545 is still a competent tank and a notable piece of history.
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 ! ''Arcade''
-| rowspan="2" | 40 || rowspan="2" | -6°/+16° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 15.2 || 21.1 || 25.6 || 28.3 || 30.1 || rowspan="2" | 11.96 || rowspan="2" | 10.58 || rowspan="2" | 9.75 || rowspan="2" | 9.20
+| rowspan="2" | 40 || rowspan="2" | -6°/+16° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 15.2 || 21.1 || 25.6 || 28.3 || 30.1 || rowspan="2" | 10.40 || rowspan="2" | 9.20 || rowspan="2" | 8.48 || rowspan="2" | 8.00
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 ! ''Realistic''
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 ! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
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-| Coaxial || 2,500 (250) || 700 || N/A || N/A
+| Coaxial || 2,500 (250) || 700 || - || -
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 * The 3OF11 fin-stabilised HE round is rather unremarkable and is only really useful against soft targets.
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+{{:U-5TS (115 mm)/Ammunition|3BM4, 3BM3, 3BK4, 3OF11}}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====

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 ;Videos
-{{Youtube-gallery|987nKHVUW1Y|'''T-62 No 545 - Patience, Then Puuuuuuuuush''' - ''Napalmratte''|riZq9VtfX1A|''' T62 No. 545''' - ''Pinhead_Plays''}}
+{{Youtube-gallery|987nKHVUW1Y|'''T-62 No 545 - Patience, Then Puuuuuuuuush''' - ''Napalmratte''}}
 == See also ==

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 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
 [[File:Ammoracks_T-62.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]
-<!-- '''Last updated: 2.1.0.82''' -->
+<!-- '''Last updated: 2.13.0.180''' -->
 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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 * Shells are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded.
 * Rack 4 is a first stage ammo rack. It totals 16 shells and gets filled first when loading up the tank.
-* This rack is also emptied early: the rack depletion order at full capacity is: 4 - 1 - 2 - 3.
+** This rack is also emptied early: the rack depletion order at full capacity is: 4 - 1 - 2 - 3.
-* Simply not firing when the gun is loaded will move ammo from racks 1-3 into rack 4. Firing will interrupt the restocking of the ready racks.
+** Simply not firing when the gun is loaded will move ammo from racks 1-3 into rack 4. Firing will interrupt the restocking of the ready racks.
-* If you pack 19&nbsp;''(+21)'' shells, it will keep most of the hull empty of ammo.
+* If you pack 17&nbsp;''(+23)'' shells, it will fill only the frontal wet stowage ready rack.
 === Machine guns ===