T-34-85 (D-5T) - Revision history

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 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
 ===Development===
-The T-34, in its introduction, was a huge shock to the German army when they invaded as they did not have the adequate anti-tank weaponry to defeat the T-34 and its heavier companion [[KV-1 (L-11)|KV-1]] tank. However, by 1943, the Germans began introducing newer tanks or upgrading their current tanks. They upgraded their [[Pz.IV G|Panzer IVs]] with the 75 mm KwK 40 gun, which could penetrate the T-34, and introduced the [[Tiger H1|Tiger I]] and [[Panther D|Panther]] tanks into their forces, which could not only destroy the T-34s easily, but can also take in the 76.2 mm shells the T-34 fires. The inferior firepower the T-34 forced the T-34 forces to close into a very close distance during the Battle of Kursk with the Tigers and Panthers in order to get to the sides and fire at the weaker armour. While the Soviets were victorious against the German offensive, the T-34s suffered high losses with this strategy.
+The T-34, in its introduction, was a huge shock to the German army when they invaded as they did not have the adequate anti-tank weaponry to defeat the T-34 and its heavier companion [[KV-1 (L-11)|KV-1]] tank. However, by 1943, the Germans began introducing newer tanks or upgrading their current tanks. They upgraded their [[Pz.IV G|Panzer IVs]] with the 75 mm KwK 40 gun, which could penetrate the T-34, and introduced the [[Tiger H1|Tiger I]] and [[Panther D|Panther]] tanks into their forces, which could not only destroy the T-34s easily, but also withstand the T-34's 76.2 mm shells. The inferior firepower the T-34 forced the T-34 forces to close into a very close distance during the Battle of Kursk with the Tigers and Panthers in order to get to the sides and fire at the weaker armour. While the Soviets were victorious against the German offensive, the T-34s suffered high losses with this strategy.
 The T-34's slow improvement from the [[T-34 (1941)|1941 model]] was due to the decision to keep changes to the model low to keep costs low and productivity high. This worked well in the first two years against the Germans, but the Battle of Kursk showed that the newer German tanks now outgun the T-34s. Soviet High Command, once conservative on the T-34's upgrades, now opted for an increase in the T-34 armament to be able to counter the German tanks. During the development, an interim solution for the problem was the equipping of the 57 mm ZiS-4M gun onto the T-34, which has better penetration capabilities compared to the 76.2 F-34 guns. This tank, the [[T-34-57]], performed as an adequate "tank-hunter", but the small HE shell on the 57 mm gun made it a poor tank armament so this was only an interim solution until a better design is made.

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 <!-- ''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.'' -->
-The {{PAGENAME}}'s mobility should also be quite familiar to players who have researched through the other T-34s towards this tank. The new 85 mm gun and the associated weight increase did little to affect this performance. Players can still rely on the {{PAGENAME}} to maneuver the battlefield easily and swiftly enough to reach or surround decisive areas to respond to enemy presence.
+The {{PAGENAME}}'s mobility should also be quite familiar to players who have researched through the other T-34s towards this tank. The new 85 mm gun and the associated weight increase did little to affect this performance. Players can still rely on the {{PAGENAME}} to maneuver the battlefield easily and swiftly enough to reach our surround decisive areas to respond to enemy presence.
 Reverse speed is still lackluster on the {{PAGENAME}}, so withdrawal tactics after attacking the enemy should be planned with care so the enemy does not get the opportunity to shoot the {{PAGENAME}} before it slides back into cover.

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 <!-- ''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.'' -->
-The {{PAGENAME}}'s mobility should also be quite familiar to players who have researched through the other T-34s towards this tank. The new 85 mm gun and the associated weight increase did little to affect this performance. Players can still rely on the {{PAGENAME}} to maneuver the battlefield easily and swiftly enough to reach our surround decisive areas to respond to enemy presence.
+The {{PAGENAME}}'s mobility should also be quite familiar to players who have researched through the other T-34s towards this tank. The new 85 mm gun and the associated weight increase did little to affect this performance. Players can still rely on the {{PAGENAME}} to maneuver the battlefield easily and swiftly enough to reach or surround decisive areas to respond to enemy presence.
 Reverse speed is still lackluster on the {{PAGENAME}}, so withdrawal tactics after attacking the enemy should be planned with care so the enemy does not get the opportunity to shoot the {{PAGENAME}} before it slides back into cover.

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 | Hull || 45 mm (60°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 45 mm (60°) ''Lower glacis'' <br> 75 mm (59-70°) ''Driver's hatch'' <br> 30-65 mm (30-77°) ''Machine gun port'' || 45 mm (39-40°) ''Top'' <br> 45 mm ''Bottom'' || 45 mm (47-49°) ''Top'' <br> 45 mm (46°) ''Bottom'' || 20 mm
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-| Turret || 54 mm (1-84°) ''Turret front'' <br> 90-200 mm (0-78°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 54 mm (17-22°) || 54 mm (12-13°) || 20 mm
+| Turret || 123 mm (1-84°) ''Turret front'' <br> 80-213 mm (0-78°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 54 mm (17-22°) || 54 mm (12-13°) || 20 mm
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 | Cupola || colspan="3" style="text-align:center" | 54 mm || 20 mm

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 The armour scheme of the T-34 should be familiar enough now to any players researching towards the {{PAGENAME}}. Though there are minor differences in some hull armour thickness compared to previous tanks like the [[T-34 (1942)]] and [[T-34-57]], they are negligible enough that it shouldn't worry any players nor enemies facing the {{PAGENAME}}. However, the consequence is that the overall T-34 armour is now quite inadequate against pretty much any enemy tank weaponry it can face in the battle rating. Any shot to the hull, apart from high oblique angle of attacks, would more likely than not penetrate and destroy the tank's interior.
-The biggest difference of the {{PAGENAME}} compared to past variants is the much larger turret housing the 85 mm D-5T gun. However, the armour protection of the turret is also not so changed compared to the 57 mm or 76 mm turrets seen in the preceding T-34s. Though the angles are much sharper, the turret thickness of only 54 mm and of cast construction means that most shots at the turret are likely to penetrate. The number of crew in the turret is also retained, as the commander still acts as the gunner, which lowers survivability overall. Interestingly, the turret's front is ''far'' stronger than 54 mm displayed in the game, at about 130 mm, so what the armor display says is inaccurate. Most cannons will not penetrate this frontal part, while the sides will be penetrated by anything.
+The biggest difference of the {{PAGENAME}} compared to past variants is the much larger turret housing the 85 mm D-5T gun. However, the armour protection of the turret is also not so changed compared to the 57 mm or 76 mm turrets seen in the preceding T-34s. Though the angles are much sharper, the turret thickness of only 54 mm and of cast construction means that most shots at the turret are likely to penetrate. However, most cannons will not penetrate the frontal part of the turret which sports around 130 mm armour. The number of crew in the turret is also retained, as the commander still acts as the gunner, which lowers survivability overall.
 Given the extremely packed nature of the {{PAGENAME}}'s interior with fuel, ammo, and crew; any penetrating shots will more likely than not destroy the entire {{PAGENAME}}. The best survival strategy is to not get hit, using the {{PAGENAME}}'s mobility to evade the enemy's field of fire.

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 ==== Ammunition ====
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+{{:D-5T (85 mm)/Ammunition|BR-365K, BR-365A, O-365K}}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====

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 ;Videos
-{{Youtube-gallery|sWpLiNC7Fsg|'''Just another soviet T-34? Disagree, here's why... {{PAGENAME}}''' - ''HowToPlay1337''|Epll9sd4zzo|'''{{PAGENAME}} - Tank Review - Winning The World''' - ''Napalmratte''|hO2eynCzhVI|'''{{PAGENAME}}, Russian Tier-3 Medium Tank''' - ''Angry Nerd Gaming''|804dIJYarlo|'''{{PAGENAME}} Tank Review''' - ''NUSensei''}}
+{{Youtube-gallery|sWpLiNC7Fsg|'''Just another soviet T-34? Disagree, here's why... T-34-85 (D-5T)''' - ''HowToPlay1337''|Epll9sd4zzo|'''T-34-85 (D-5T) - Tank Review - Winning The World''' - ''Napalmratte''|hO2eynCzhVI|'''T-34-85 (D-5T), Russian Tier-3 Medium Tank''' - ''Angry Nerd Gaming''}}
 == See also ==