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 [[File:Swingfire_FlankPreventions.jpg|thumb|360x360px|right|An example of why should never fire secondary launcher immediately: another enemy nearby the first target.{{Break}} Consider curving missiles horizontally, that way hitting enemies behind buildings and in uncomfortable situations like this.]]
-It's very tempting to fire the second launcher immediately in case of a miss, but if alone the player should let the first launcher to reload at least half-way before firing again, so the Swingfire won't get overrun if missing again. If they are already rushing towards the Swingfire - fire at will. This is very important against fast targets like the commonly found German tanks [[Leopard (Family)|Leopards]] and [[Ru 251]] or the Soviet [[T-54/55 (Family)]].
+It's very tempting to fire the second launcher immediately in case of a miss, but if alone the player should let the first launcher to reload at least half-way before firing again, so the Swingfire won't get overrun if missing again. If they are already rushing towards the Swingfire - fire at will. This is very important against fast targets like the commonly found German tanks [[Leopard 1 (Family)|Leopard Is]] and [[Ru 251]] or the Soviet [[T-54/55 (Family)]].
 In RB, it's possible to destroy planes with missiles, achieving "unguided" reward. It's not recommended to do in AB, since planes there can do unrealistic manoeuvres without damaging themselves into the ground or ripping their wings off. Helicopters can be shot down with 4 km range ATGM, but remember that Swingfire missile is the rather slow and cautious pilot will just dodge the shot. Soviet helicopters like the [[Mi-4AV]] provide a rather easy frag thanks to their huge size; their Falanga ATGM is also ranged up to 4 km therefore the possibility of sniping it with the Swingfire is possible.
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 '''ATGM carriers''' - Avoid attacking other ATGM carriers directly to the line-of-sight; use the fact, that you can fire over tall obstacles in front of your carrier and they usually cannot because of their extremely fast missiles. Be wary of certain ATGM carriers like the Japanese [[type 60 ATM]], as they can do the same to you. Destroy them before they can reach you or try to curve missiles into your cover, as your hull is very long and tall, which makes it vulnerable to top-down attacks of other vertical ATGM.
-'''Planes''' - Drive backwards or frontally into the Swingfire's smoke screen and with some luck they won't hit the ammo or the tank commander in the back. The best defence is to reposition situationally based on the enemy air superiority. If gaining notoriety in a area of the map, proceed to retreat and avoid sticking around too much. If needed, attempt to use the Machine gun and score some hits in the plane.  Call the treat to any allied aircraft or nearby anti-air tank!
+'''Planes''' - Drive backwards or frontally into the Swingfire's smoke screen and with some luck they won't hit the ammo or the tank commander in the back. The best defence is to reposition situationally based on the enemy air superiority. If gaining notoriety in a area of the map, proceed to retreat and avoid sticking around too much. If needed, attempt to use the Machine gun and score some hits in the plane. Call the treat to any allied aircraft or nearby anti-air tank!
 ;Counter-tactics

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 ==== Ammunition ====
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+{{:BAe Swingfire/Ammunition|BAe Swingfire}}
 * BAe Swingfire missiles are specifically designed for cover-busting and attacking out of unexpected places, so it's initially slower than most ATGMs out there, and its max speed isn't very impressive.

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 ;Sights
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/post/834317/en/ Schindibee's Custom-made sight for the {{PAGENAME}}.]
 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=uk_fv438_swingfire Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 == See also ==

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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} British tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.63 "Desert Hunters"]].
-The Swingfire is the first dedicated ATGM of British nation tree. It doesn't have any cannons, just a light machine gun. Instead, it has two ATGM launchers that are reloaded separately and fire upwards with missiles that are guided by mouse. Missiles are slow and relatively easy to control, as long as they are visible by the ATGM camera. You can only directly control the missile last fired.
+The Swingfire is the first dedicated ATGM of the British nation tree. It doesn't have any cannons, just a light machine gun. Instead, it has two ATGM launchers that are reloaded separately and fire upwards with missiles that are guided by mouse. Missiles are slow and relatively easy to control, as long as they are visible by the ATGM camera. You can only directly control the missile last fired.
-The main point is the player can fire while being completely concealed and fire on people that try to hide from the Swingfire, whether they are hiding behind rocks (vertically) or houses (horizontally). You just need to "swing" the missile into their cover, which surprises people who expect long range ATGM sniping from 2 km range like other ATGMs. But another side of that is, it's very easy to see the missiles coming and hide from them, making it twice as hard to hit enemies, unless the player can judge the distance well and drop missiles right on them.
+The main point is the player can fire while being completely concealed and fire on people that try to hide from the Swingfire, whether they are hiding behind rocks (vertically) or houses (horizontally). You just need to "swing" the missile into their cover, which surprises people who expect long-range ATGM sniping from 2 km range like other ATGMs. But another side of that is, it's very easy to see the missiles coming and hide from them, making it twice as hard to hit enemies unless the player can judge the distance well and drop missiles right on them.
-Because of that, main purpose of the Swingfire is either control of hills, castles, streets and so on to block enemy offensive pushes or assist in team assaults by hiding behind teammates. walls or rocks and blasting enemy out of covers.
+Because of that, the main purpose of the Swingfire is either control of hills, castles, streets and so on to block enemy offensive pushes or assist in team assaults by hiding behind teammates, walls or rocks and blasting enemies out of cover.
 == General info ==

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-Notes:
+'''Note''':
 * It is not possible to select how many missiles to bring into battle.
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 * Missiles are very agile in both vertical and horizontal plane, they can even do 180 degree turns
 * Can blast enemy out of their own cover by firing over or around it, without having to deal with them frontally; even without direct sight at close ranges
-* Sniper setup and missile effective range allows {{PAGENAME}} to attack from almost anywhere on the map, while staying relatively hidden
+* Sniper setup and missile effective range allows the {{PAGENAME}} to attack from almost anywhere on the map, while staying relatively hidden
 * Together the launchers can reload faster than medium tanks; one of them can be kept to deter heavily armoured opponents - Something some other ATGM tanks like the [[IT-1]] can't do
 * Has significantly more ammo than [[Type 60 ATM]], which allows it to hold off sieges in a less risky and more confident manner
 * Provides a different playstyle from the regular MBT configuration
 * Missiles are easier to control and deliver than the latter [[Striker]], camera placing grants more flexibility
-* The sight is above the tank and the atgm launchers are angled upwards meaning that you can fire from completely in cover with only your sight visible
+* The sight is above the tank and the ATGM launchers are angled upwards meaning that you can fire while entirely behind cover with only your sight visible
 '''Cons:'''
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 * Complicated to know how long a reload will be, players have to guess by looking at launcher's animation
 * Missiles are rather slow on launch and accelerate slowly, which can be a problem at long range
-* Missiles launchers are static upwards with limited horizontal camera guidance, difficult to aim at close ranges; fast opponents can get close or behind {{PAGENAME}}
+* Missiles launchers are static upwards with limited horizontal camera guidance, difficult to aim at close ranges; fast opponents can get close or behind the {{PAGENAME}}
 * Sluggish and unarmoured, possible to get outflanked and shot down by medium or light tanks, or to get suppressed by artillery strike or aerial attacks
 * Tall vehicle, vulnerable to overhead shots in the launchers, even more so in Arcade Battles, it is generally easier to destroy than the low-height [[RakJPz 2]] when using just the terrain as a cover
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 ;Skins
-* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=britain&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=missile_tank&vehicle=uk_fv438_swingfire Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
+* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=uk_fv438_swingfire Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 ;Videos

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 * Provides a different playstyle from the regular MBT configuration
 * Missiles are easier to control and deliver than the latter [[Striker]], camera placing grants more flexibility
 '''Cons:'''
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 ;Sights
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/post/834317/en/ Schindibee's Custom-made sight for the {{PAGENAME}}.]
 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=britain&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=missile_tank&vehicle=uk_fv438_swingfire Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 ;Vehicles equipped with the same missiles
 * [[Striker]]
 ;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
 * [[Type 60 ATM]]

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-| BAe Swingfire || ATGM || 185 || 4,000 || 37 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 4,550 || 80° || 82° || 90°
+| BAe Swingfire || ATGM || 185 || 4,000 || 27 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 4,550 || 80° || 82° || 90°
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 The Swingfire can be a complicated vehicle to master due to the very different playstyle from what is presented in the early British ground forces tree. One of the most complicated issues to master for some British tank commanders are the aiming and effective use of the Swingfire ATGM at close distances. Fortunately, things like the custom made sights can drastically improve the player's performance in combat.
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 ! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics