Super Mystere B2 - Revision history

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 == Description ==
-<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->The French '''Super Mystère B2''' was designed, developed and manufactured by Dassault Aviation as a multi-role fighter-bomber, a niche which would later encompass such aircraft as the [[F-105D|F-105 Thunderchief]] and the [[F-4C Phantom II|F-4C Phantom]] which could not be pigeon-holed into one type of combat role. The multi-role function created a combat multiplier with just one aircraft instead of needing several specialized aircraft to do certain jobs. A last-minute change of targets could allow for weapons change or multiple types of ordnance can be carried to take on one or more roles during a combat run. The Super Mystère is the culminating aircraft in a series of four other predecessors before it. Initially starting with the [[M.D.450B Ouragan|Dassault Ouragan]], modifications and upgrades led to the Mystère II, Mystère III and [[Mystere IVA|Mystère IV]]. The Mystère series fighters while quick could not go supersonic except during a dive whereas, like many of the newer aircraft of the time, the Super Mystère had swept wings which allowed it to achieve supersonic flight during level flight. The Super Mystere B2 was France's first aircraft capable of reaching supersonic speeds in level flight, which meant that it also was very attractive to other nations in the weapons market, it was exported to Israel, El Salvador and Honduras, and it helped solidify France as a major weapons producer.
+<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
 It was introduced in [[Update 1.87 "Locked On"]]. The {{PAGENAME}} can fulfil a multi-role function by either being a fighter-interceptor or a fighter-bomber. Outfitted with the afterburner, this fighter can easily become an interceptor either going after fighters or bombers. This fighter is outfitted with two 30 mm DEFA 552 autocannons as its main weapon and also can be fitted with SNEB type 23 rockets, T10 151 rockets, AA-20 Nord missiles or AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles for air to air combat. Though the rockets and missiles are not a guarantee that the enemy will be hit and go down, always be ready to follow up with the DEFA 552 as the enemy fighter will most likely be in an energy-drained situation and a relatively easy target to mop up with the autocannon.Though relatively nimble and quick when outfitted for air-to-air combat, things change when switched to ground-pounding. The speed and manoeuvrability trade-off is worth it as this fighter converted to a bomber can carry a hefty payload for an aircraft of its size. Ground-attack rockets are a good option especially with the T10 151 or SNEB type 23 to focus on attacking lighter clustered targets. For direct bomb-to-target ordnance, the aircraft has the choice of outfitting either 1,000 or 2,000 lbs of bombs, enough to do serious damage to larger ships, hardened targets and bases.

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 == Description ==
-<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
+<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->The French '''Super Mystère B2''' was designed, developed and manufactured by Dassault Aviation as a multi-role fighter-bomber, a niche which would later encompass such aircraft as the [[F-105D|F-105 Thunderchief]] and the [[F-4C Phantom II|F-4C Phantom]] which could not be pigeon-holed into one type of combat role. The multi-role function created a combat multiplier with just one aircraft instead of needing several specialized aircraft to do certain jobs. A last-minute change of targets could allow for weapons change or multiple types of ordnance can be carried to take on one or more roles during a combat run. The Super Mystère is the culminating aircraft in a series of four other predecessors before it. Initially starting with the [[M.D.450B Ouragan|Dassault Ouragan]], modifications and upgrades led to the Mystère II, Mystère III and [[Mystere IVA|Mystère IV]]. The Mystère series fighters while quick could not go supersonic except during a dive whereas, like many of the newer aircraft of the time, the Super Mystère had swept wings which allowed it to achieve supersonic flight during level flight. The Super Mystere B2 was France's first aircraft capable of reaching supersonic speeds in level flight, which meant that it also was very attractive to other nations in the weapons market, it was exported to Israel, El Salvador and Honduras, and it helped solidify France as a major weapons producer.
-The French Super Mystère was designed, developed and manufactured by Dassault Aviation as a multi-role fighter-bomber, a niche which would later encompass such aircraft as the F-105 Thunderchief and the [[F-4C Phantom II|F-4C Phantom]] which could not be pigeon-holed into one type of combat role. The multi-role function created a combat multiplier with just one aircraft instead of needing several specialized aircraft to do certain jobs. A last-minute change of targets could allow for weapons change or multiple types of ordnance can be carried to take on one or more roles during a combat run.
+It was introduced in [[Update 1.87 "Locked On"]]. The {{PAGENAME}} can fulfil a multi-role function by either being a fighter-interceptor or a fighter-bomber. Outfitted with the afterburner, this fighter can easily become an interceptor either going after fighters or bombers. This fighter is outfitted with two 30 mm DEFA 552 autocannons as its main weapon and also can be fitted with SNEB type 23 rockets, T10 151 rockets, AA-20 Nord missiles or AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles for air to air combat. Though the rockets and missiles are not a guarantee that the enemy will be hit and go down, always be ready to follow up with the DEFA 552 as the enemy fighter will most likely be in an energy-drained situation and a relatively easy target to mop up with the autocannon.Though relatively nimble and quick when outfitted for air-to-air combat, things change when switched to ground-pounding. The speed and manoeuvrability trade-off is worth it as this fighter converted to a bomber can carry a hefty payload for an aircraft of its size. Ground-attack rockets are a good option especially with the T10 151 or SNEB type 23 to focus on attacking lighter clustered targets. For direct bomb-to-target ordnance, the aircraft has the choice of outfitting either 1,000 or 2,000 lbs of bombs, enough to do serious damage to larger ships, hardened targets and bases.
 == General info ==
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 {{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
 {{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}}
 * Without load
 * 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles

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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 * Without load
-* 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (1,000 lb total)
+* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
-* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs (2,000 lb total)
+* 2 x AA-20 Nord missiles
 * 12 x T10 151 rockets
 * 38 x SNEB type 23 rockets
 * 35 x SNEB type 23 rockets
 * 2 x AS-20 Nord missiles
-* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
+* 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (1,000 lb total)
-* 35 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x AA-20 Nord missiles
+* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs (2,000 lb total)
-* 35 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x AS-20 Nord missiles
+* 2 x SECAN 63 incendiary bombs
-* 35 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (1,000 lb total)
+{{Navigation-End}}
 The {{PAGENAME}} was built to be a battlewagon of an aircraft, capable of fulfilling different roles as the mission dictated. This fighter has access to a multitude of both French and US armaments to round out its capabilities no matter what map it spawns on whether it is an air-to-air attack, ground-attack or both.

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 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
 {{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-M65A1 Fin M129 (1,000 lb)|SECAN 63 incendiary}}
-{{main|T10 151|SNEB type 23|AA-20 Nord|AIM-9B Sidewinder}}
+{{main|T10 151|SNEB type 23|AS-20 Nord|AA-20 Nord|AIM-9B Sidewinder}}
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

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 The {{PAGENAME}} is a typical middle of the road jet fighter in terms of flight performance. With its swept wings, it has a distinct advantage over earlier fighters with straight wings, however, it is surpassed by those jets which can hit or hit close to Mach 2. Modifications and upgrades from earlier Mystère fighters moulded the {{PAGENAME}} into what it is, going from its swept wings and tailplanes to its strengthened wing spars all held together with titanium bolts. This aircraft is meant to go fast, meant to make high-g manoeuvres and to carry heavy payloads when required.
-Outfitted with an afterburner, this fighter has decent acceleration and can achieve >Mach speed in level flight and even faster during a dive. This fighter does handle well during a dive and control stiffening does not begin until around 900 kph and starts to become severe around 1,050 kph. Though the wings have been reinforced for the greater weight loads, the wings can potentially shear off at around 1,265 kph. When carrying heavier loads such as the AN-M64A1 500 lb or AN-M65A1 1,000 lb bombs the overall manoeuvrability and acceleration of this aircraft will suffer, but not as bad as some of the other contemporary fighters in a similar situation.
+Outfitted with an afterburner, this fighter has decent acceleration and can achieve >Mach speed in level flight and even faster during a dive. This fighter does handle well during a dive and control stiffening does not begin until around 900 km/h and starts to become severe around 1,050 km/h. Though the wings have been reinforced for the greater weight loads, the wings can potentially shear off at around 1,265 km/h. When carrying heavier loads such as the AN-M64A1 500 lb or AN-M65A1 1,000 lb bombs the overall manoeuvrability and acceleration of this aircraft will suffer, but not as bad as some of the other contemporary fighters in a similar situation.
 Due to the possibility of being attacked by faster jet fighters, it is important to try to set up the enemy to overshoot the {{PAGENAME}} and one way to do that when being tailed is to reduce throttle, extend air brakes and manoeuvre to the right or left, if the chasing fighter cannot compensate to the Mystère's manoeuvres then they will zoom past, which will allow the {{PAGENAME}} to retract flaps, go full throttle and target the fleeing aircraft to attempt a firing solution.
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 ! Stock
-| 1,176 || 1,143 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 31.8 || 33.1 || 47.5 || 47.5 || rowspan="2" | 800
+| 1,175 || 1,141 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 31.8 || 33.1 || 47.4 || 47.4 || rowspan="2" | 800
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 ! Upgraded
-| 1,208 || 1,199 || 30.4 || 31.0 || 76.0 || 61.0
+| 1,209 || 1,199 || 30.4 || 31.0 || 76.1 || 61.0
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 ! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
 |-
-| < 600 || < 610 || < 590 || N/A
+| < 600 || < 610 || < 590 || -
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 ! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
-! colspan="2" | Empty mass || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
+! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
 |-
 | colspan="2" | SNECMA Atar 101G2 || 1
-| colspan="2" | 7,105 kg || colspan="3" | 262 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
+| colspan="2" | 7,213 kg || colspan="3" | 264 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
 |-
 ! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
-! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br />Weight
+! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | {{Annotation|Max Gross<br>Weight|Mass of the fully equipped aircraft with heaviest weapons load}}
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 ! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
-! 11m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 38m fuel
+! 10m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 35m fuel
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 | 950 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
-| 7,711 kg || 8,192 kg || 8,726 kg || 9,154 kg || 11,645 kg
+| 7,822 kg || 8,361 kg || 8,934 kg || 9,244 kg || 10,490 kg
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 ! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
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 ! Condition || 100% || WEP
-! 11m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 38m fuel || MTOW
+! 10m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 35m fuel || MGW
 |-
-| ''Stationary'' || 3,003 kgf || 4,144 kgf
+| ''Stationary'' || 3,003 kgf || 4,148 kgf
-| 0.54 || 0.51 || 0.47 || 0.45 || 0.36
+| 0.53 || 0.50 || 0.46 || 0.45 || 0.39
 |-
-| ''Optimal'' || 3,222 kgf<br />(600 km/h) || 4,535 kgf<br />(600 km/h)
+| ''Optimal'' || 3,222 kgf<br>(600 km/h) || 4,540 kgf<br>(600 km/h)
-| 0.59 || 0.55 || 0.52 || 0.50 || 0.39
+| 0.58 || 0.54 || 0.51 || 0.49 || 0.43
 |-
 |}

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 ! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 |-
-| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 620 || 589 || 435 || ~10 || ~4
+| 1,265 <!-- {{Specs|destruction|body}} --> || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 620 || 589 || 435 || ~10 || ~4
 |-
 |}
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 * 35 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x AA-20 Nord missiles
 * 35 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x AS-20 Nord missiles
-* 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs + 35 x SNEB type 23 rockets (1,000 lb total)
+* 35 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (1,000 lb total)
-* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs + 35 x SNEB type 23 rockets (2,000 lb total)
+* 35 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs (2,000 lb total)
-* 12 x T10 151 rockets + 35 x SNEB type 23 rockets
+* 35 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 12 x T10 151 rockets
 * 73 x SNEB type 23 rockets
 * 35 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
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 Being a middle-of-the-road fighter, the {{PAGENAME}} cannot take any other fighters for granted. Many enemy fighters will have a speed advantage and will be able to run circles around it, however, the Mystère must learn to drastically reduce its speed a times to force overshoots of both aircraft and missiles, however, they must be ready to counter the enemy or else they will just try to chase them down again. Though the {{PAGENAME}} may have a speed advantage over earlier fighters, that is no need to become complacent, the slower fighters can attempt the same strategy as the Mystère when going against faster aircraft and position for an overshoot, forcing the {{PAGENAME}} out front and within gun range. The {{PAGENAME}} is susceptible to missile fire (especially AIM-9 Sidewinders) and for [[Boom & Zoom]] fighters which seem to swoop in from out of nowhere to claim a victim. The critical thing for a {{PAGENAME}} pilot to do is to maintain their situational awareness, keep their speed up and look for targets of opportunity.
-===Radars===
+=== Radars ===
 <!--{{main|AN/APG-30}}-->
 The Super Mystere B2 is equipped with an AN/APG-30 rangefinding radar, located in the nose of the aircraft.
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 * Cannot reach Mach 1 in level flight below 6,000 m (19,700 ft)
 * Mediocre low-speed acceleration even with afterburner
-* Lackluster stock performance
+* Lacklustre stock performance
 * 15-meter proximity fuse on the AA-20 missiles will sometimes result in no damage hits
 * Faces faster opponents when uptiered
 == History ==
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 The Super Mystere B2 is a variant of the Dassault Super Mystère, the first supersonic aircraft in Western Europe to reach serial production. The aircraft was a development upon the previous MD.454 Mystère IV, featuring numerous improvements including a more powerful engine and a larger wing sweep. The Super Mystère began entering service in the late 1950s and served as the primary French fighter-bomber; the Super Mystère would remain in service until the late 1970s.
-The Super Mystère represents the final evolution of the Dassault Ouragan / Mystère family which began with the first flight of the Ouragan prototype in early 1949. Compared to the previous Mystère IV, the Super Mystère included numerous improvements: notably, the wing sweep was increased to 45 degrees (compared to the Mystère IV’s 41 degree sweep), and the installation of a new afterburning engine. The first Super Mystère prototype flew on March 2nd, 1954, and broke the sound barrier the following day.
+The Super Mystère represents the final evolution of the Dassault Ouragan / Mystère family which began with the first flight of the Ouragan prototype in early 1949. Compared to the previous Mystère IV, the Super Mystère included numerous improvements: notably, the wing sweep was increased to 45 degrees (compared to the Mystère IV's 41 degree sweep), and the installation of a new afterburning engine. The first Super Mystère prototype flew on March 2nd, 1954, and broke the sound barrier the following day.
 In 1957, the Super Mystère entered service as the Super Mystère B.2: the main change compared to the prototypes was the fitting of a new, more powerful SNECMA Atar 101G engine. In total, 180 Super Mystère B2s would be built, serving as the primary French fighter-bomber & attack aircraft until the late 1970s. Additionally, 24 Super Mystères were sold to Israel in 1958. These aircraft would fight in the Six-Day War and Yom Kippur War, and some of the aircraft would be sold to Honduras in the late 1970s.

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 * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
 ;Contemporary fighters