Su-9 - Revision history

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‎Pros and cons

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U138997472: recommendation in air rb section

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U44629479: Undo revision 127767 by U118715017 (talk) Plagiarism from Wikipedia: Sukhoi Su-9 (1946)

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Undo revision 127767 by U118715017 (talk) Plagiarism from Wikipedia: Sukhoi Su-9 (1946)

U118715017: Added history section

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U19954778: Description, usage in battles and pros and cons

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 * Powerful offensive armament
 * Airbrakes
 '''Cons:'''

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 '''Ground RB'''
-The Su-9 is capable of destroying ground targets with its suspended armament. When dive bombing, don't pull of to late as the engines aren't that powerful. It is possible to destroy some light and medium tanks with the right ammunition belt. For destroying tanks, top-down approaches are heavily recommended.
+The Su-9 is capable of destroying ground targets with its suspended armament. When dive bombing, don't pull out too late as the engines aren't that powerful. It is possible to destroy some light and medium tanks with the right ammunition belt. For destroying tanks, top-down approaches are heavily recommended.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 * Powerful offensive armament
 * Airbrakes
 '''Cons:'''

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 * Powerful offensive armament
 * Airbrakes
 '''Cons:'''

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 == Description ==
-<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->Towards the end of the second world war, the USSR quickly began pursuing multiple jet-powered fighter projects to catch up to the western [[Meteor (Family)|Gloster Meteor]], [[Me 262 (Family)|Me-262]], and [[F-80A-5|F-80]]. One such project was "Aircraft K" from the Sukhoi design bureau, which was heavily influenced by captured German designes (namely the Me-262). The aircraft was originally concieved to use the new and upcoming indeginous Soviet jet engines being designed by Lyulka and Tumansky, however, due to setbacks on those programs, the aircraft plan was changed to instead use reverse engineered copies of the German Jumo-004 engine. The aircraft would bear the shape of the Me-262, but in reality, was almost completely different, having different weight distributions, wing design, tailplane shapes, and more importantly, a completely revised flap and airbrake system. This aircraft, now called the "Sukhoi Su-9", would finally fly in 1946 for the first time, where it was quickly revealed that the German engines were rather underpowered. The Lyulka TR-1 engines originally intended for the plane would finally be completed, however, it was revealed that mounting them required extensive redesign of the aircraft, which directly resulted in the [[Su-11]] prototype.
+<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a early Soviet jet introduced in [[Update "Ixwa Strike"]]. It is probably one of the better Soviet starter jets, as unlike the MiG-9, it is very forgiving in terms of manouverbility, and unlike the Yak-15, it is not limited by its low ammo count and top speed. The low velocity guns will take time getting used to, especially for players new to Soviet jets, but getting acquainted with the twin 23mm and single 37mm combo will prove fruitious as most soviet jets for this rank and the next rank will have some variation of that same gun setup. All in all, the Su-9 acts as a great stepping stone from the propeller aircraft into the jet age of Soviet aircraft.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was introduced in [[Update "Ixwa Strike"]]. It is probably one of the better Soviet starter jets, as unlike the MiG-9, it is very forgiving in terms of manoeuvrability, and unlike the Yak-15, it is not limited by its low ammo count and top speed. The low velocity guns will take time getting used to, especially for players new to Soviet jets, but getting acquainted with the twin 23 mm and single 37 mm combo will prove fruitious as most Soviet jets for this rank and the next will have some variation of the same gun setup. All in all, the Su-9 acts as a great stepping stone from the propeller aircraft into the jet age of Soviet aircraft.
 == General info ==
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 '''Air RB'''
 This plane has great firepower but always watch the ammo count so you won't run out of bullets. The plane has 90 mm of bulletproof glass in front of the pilot, so your pilot has a high chance of survival in head-ons. Once the plane gets up to speed, it becomes a great bomber hunter. Keep in mind that this plane has a slow acceleration. Use HE belt or air targets belt as it will shred enemy aircraft in pieces with just a few well-aimed shots. [[Boom & Run]] tactics are recommended against fighters, but make sure you have some speed before attacking.
 '''Ground RB'''

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 == Description ==
-<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
+<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->Towards the end of the second world war, the USSR quickly began pursuing multiple jet-powered fighter projects to catch up to the western [[Meteor (Family)|Gloster Meteor]], [[Me 262 (Family)|Me-262]], and [[F-80A-5|F-80]]. One such project was "Aircraft K" from the Sukhoi design bureau, which was heavily influenced by captured German designes (namely the Me-262). The aircraft was originally concieved to use the new and upcoming indeginous Soviet jet engines being designed by Lyulka and Tumansky, however, due to setbacks on those programs, the aircraft plan was changed to instead use reverse engineered copies of the German Jumo-004 engine. The aircraft would bear the shape of the Me-262, but in reality, was almost completely different, having different weight distributions, wing design, tailplane shapes, and more importantly, a completely revised flap and airbrake system. This aircraft, now called the "Sukhoi Su-9", would finally fly in 1946 for the first time, where it was quickly revealed that the German engines were rather underpowered. The Lyulka TR-1 engines originally intended for the plane would finally be completed, however, it was revealed that mounting them required extensive redesign of the aircraft, which directly resulted in the [[Su-11]] prototype.
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Ixwa Strike"]].
 == General info ==

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 == History ==
-In 1944, the Sukhoi design bureau began designing a twin-engined fighter powered by two Lyulka TR-1 turbojets. The overall design was likely influenced by a a captured [[Me 262 (Family)|Messerschmitt Me 262]], but it was not a copy of the German aircraft. The Su-9 had an oval cross-section, all-metal stressed skin monocoque fuselage that housed a single cockpit. The pilot was protected by armor plates to his front, an armored seat back and a bulletproof windscreen for the bubble canopy. He was provided with an ejection seat, copied from that used in the [[He 162 (Family)|Heinkel He 162]]. The aircraft carried a total of 1,350 kilograms (2,980 lb) of fuel in two bladder tanks, one each ahead and behind the pilot.
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 == Media ==
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+* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=su-9 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 == Description ==
-The Su-9 is a Soviet rank V jet fighter, sitting at the battle rating of 7.3 (AB) and 7.0 (RB, SB). It was implemented in the [[Update "Ixwa Strike"]]. There is also a premium version of this plane sitting at the same battle rating. The difference between the two is in the enigine preformance and placement. The 9 version has the engines placed more like a Me-262, the premium version has them more like a Meteor.<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
+<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
 == General info ==
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 == Usage in battles ==
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-Su-9 is capable of destroying ground tragets with usage of it’s 500kg bomb. Dive bombing can be a good tactic but dont pull of to late as the engines aren’t that powerful as its premium brother, the Su-11. Its possible to destroy some light and medium or even heavy tanks with usage of the right ammunition belt. Talking about destroying heavy tanks, top-down approaches heavily reccomended.
+'''Air RB'''
-Air RB
+This plane has great firepower but always watch the ammo count so you won't run out of bullets. The plane has 90 mm of bulletproof glass in front of the pilot, so your pilot has a high chance of survival in head-ons. Once the plane gets up to speed, it becomes a great bomber hunter. Keep in mind that this plane has a slow acceleration. Use HE belt or air targets belt as it will shred enemy aircraft in pieces with just a few well-aimed shots.
-This plane has great firepower but always watch the ammo count so you wont run out of bullets is the worst setuation possible. For example: if you have very low ammo AVOID head on approaches, as you might run out before the enemy which could lead to heavy damage to your aircraft (if the enemy of course hits you and you dont pull of in the right time). The plane has 90mm of bulletproof glass in front of the pilot, so your pilot has a high chance of survival in head on-s. Once the plane gets up to speed it becomes a great bomber hunter. Keep in mind that this plane is more sluggish than the premium brother, it has 100km less top speed than the premium (Su-11). In air battles always use HE belt or air targets belt as it will sherd enemy aircraft in pieces with just a few well aimed shots.
+'''Ground RB'''
 === Pros and cons ===
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 '''Pros:'''
-* Powerful offensive armament (23 mm and 37 mm cannons)
+* Powerful offensive armament
 * Airbrakes
 '''Cons:'''
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 * Bad acceleration and bad climb rate
 * Low ammunition count
-* More sluggish than premium version
+* Very sluggish with suspended armament
 == History ==
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 * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
-* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
+* [[Su-11]]
 == External links ==