Su-11 - Revision history

U44629479: Undo revision 185881 by U49830703 (talk)

2024-04-30T17:08:16Z

Undo revision 185881 by U49830703 (talk)

U44629479: Undo revision 185882 by U49830703 (talk)

2024-04-30T17:08:01Z

Undo revision 185882 by U49830703 (talk)

U49830703: /* Flight performance */

2024-04-30T16:05:31Z

‎Flight performance

U49830703: /* Flight performance */ The Su-11 Does not have a drogue chute, the brakes are lackluster and are World War 2 era, start coming down to the runway early before you reach the airfield in most cases, especially if it is a short airfield to not overshoot.

2024-04-30T16:04:14Z

‎Flight performance: The Su-11 Does not have a drogue chute, the brakes are lackluster and are World War 2 era, start coming down to the runway early before you reach the airfield in most cases, especially if it is a short airfield to not overshoot.

U44629479: Edits

2024-03-21T18:45:20Z

Edits

U60746864: /* Details */ The Su-11 in game has a drogue chute that deploys on landing only (cannot be deployed in air).

2024-03-18T02:13:21Z

‎Details: The Su-11 in game has a drogue chute that deploys on landing only (cannot be deployed in air).

U38088265: /* Description */

2023-10-13T09:11:35Z

‎Description

U81436767: /* Description */ New Description Project

2023-10-13T00:21:07Z

‎Description: New Description Project

U142979014: /* Pros and cons */

2023-06-12T17:54:00Z

‎Pros and cons

U44629479: Undo revision 158698 by U56862421 (talk)

2023-03-14T21:50:50Z

Undo revision 158698 by U56862421 (talk)

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-The Su-11 does not have a drogue chute nor airbrakes, and the brakes are lackluster. Start your final to the runway before you reach the airfield in most cases, especially if it is a forward airfield to not overshoot.
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+The Su-11 does not have a drogue chute nor airbrakes, and the brakes are lackluster. Start your final to the runway before you reach the airfield in most cases, especially if it is a forward airfield to not overshoot.
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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-Following the underwhelming engine performance of the "Aircraft K" ([[Su-9]]) project using reverse engineered German Jumo-004 engines, the indeginous Lyulka TR-1 engines originally intended were finally completed. However, it was quickly discovered that these massive engines would require a complete redesign of the engine pods and wings to be mounted, and the tailplane changed slightly to move the elevators out of the engine's wash. As a result, the aircraft with the new wings and engines looked substantially different, even from afar. This directly resulted in it recieving new designations, first "Aircraft KM" and later redesignated into Su-11. There was also a second parallel project, "Aircraft KT" (Su-13) which wouldve had the [[Thorium|Toryi (Thorium) radar]] from the La-200 in the nose. The Su-11 first flew on May 28th, 1947, and had a maximum speed of 940 km/h at sea level, but as flight testing quickly revealed, the aircraft had horrible longitudinal stability at high speeds. The engineers were unable to revise the airframe further to fix these stability issues, and coupled with the lack of available new Lyulka TR-1 engines, in 1948 the program was cancelled altogether, with only one Su-9, one Su-11, and no Su-13s built. Instead, the Soviet Government favored the Mikoyan I-310 prototype (which also first flew in 1947), using the more readily available Klimov RD-45 (reverse engineered Rolls-Royce Nene) into a more stable and reliable airframe, which ultimately became the [[MiG-15]].
+Following the underwhelming engine performance of the "Aircraft K" ([[Su-9]]) project using reverse engineered German Jumo-004 engines, the indigenous Lyulka TR-1 engines originally intended were finally completed. However, it was quickly discovered that these massive engines would require a complete redesign of the engine pods and wings to be mounted, and the tailplane changed slightly to move the elevators out of the engine's wash. As a result, the aircraft with the new wings and engines looked substantially different, even from afar. This directly resulted in it receiving new designations, first "Aircraft KM" and later redesignated into Su-11. There was also a second parallel project, "Aircraft KT" (Su-13) which would have had the [[Thorium|Toryi (Thorium) radar]] from the La-200 in the nose. The Su-11 first flew on May 28th, 1947, and had a maximum speed of 940 km/h at sea level, but as flight testing quickly revealed, the aircraft had horrible longitudinal stability at high speeds. The engineers were unable to revise the airframe further to fix these stability issues, and coupled with the lack of available new Lyulka TR-1 engines, in 1948 the program was cancelled altogether, with only one Su-9, one Su-11, and no Su-13s built. Instead, the Soviet Government favoured the Mikoyan I-310 prototype (which also first flew in 1947), using the more readily available Klimov RD-45 (reverse-engineered Rolls-Royce Nene) in a more stable and reliable airframe, which ultimately became the [[MiG-15]].
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was introduced in [[Update "Ixwa Strike"]] as a GE {{GE}} premium aircraft in the Soviet tech tree. Bearing alot of resemblance to its tech tree brother, the Su-9, the Su-11 in reality is a completely different beast. The upgraded engines and wing shape give the Su-11 unparalleled acceleration and high-speed performance compared to its adversaries at this battle rating. All in all, the Su-11 is a very powerful premium aircraft and a decent pick for people looking for something to research the early Soviet jet aircraft ranks with.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was introduced in [[Update "Ixwa Strike"]] as a GE {{GE}} premium aircraft in the Soviet tech tree. Bearing a lot of resemblance to its tech tree brother, the Su-9, the Su-11 in reality is a completely different beast. The upgraded engines and wing shape give the Su-11 unparalleled acceleration and high-speed performance compared to its adversaries at this battle rating. All in all, the Su-11 is a very powerful premium aircraft and a decent pick for people looking for something to research the early Soviet jet aircraft ranks with.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Ixwa Strike"]].
+Following the underwhelming engine performance of the "Aircraft K" ([[Su-9]]) project using reverse engineered German Jumo-004 engines, the indeginous Lyulka TR-1 engines originally intended were finally completed. However, it was quickly discovered that these massive engines would require a complete redesign of the engine pods and wings to be mounted, and the tailplane changed slightly to move the elevators out of the engine's wash. As a result, the aircraft with the new wings and engines looked substantially different, even from afar. This directly resulted in it recieving new designations, first "Aircraft KM" and later redesignated into Su-11. There was also a second parallel project, "Aircraft KT" (Su-13) which wouldve had the [[Thorium|Toryi (Thorium) radar]] from the La-200 in the nose. The Su-11 first flew on May 28th, 1947, and had a maximum speed of 940 km/h at sea level, but as flight testing quickly revealed, the aircraft had horrible longitudinal stability at high speeds. The engineers were unable to revise the airframe further to fix these stability issues, and coupled with the lack of available new Lyulka TR-1 engines, in 1948 the program was cancelled altogether, with only one Su-9, one Su-11, and no Su-13s built. Instead, the Soviet Government favored the Mikoyan I-310 prototype (which also first flew in 1947), using the more readily available Klimov RD-45 (reverse engineered Rolls-Royce Nene) into a more stable and reliable airframe, which ultimately became the [[MiG-15]].
 == General info ==
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 * Heavy armament
 * Excellent energy retention
 '''Cons:'''
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 '''Pros:'''
-* Extremely good manoeuvrability
+* Decent manoeuvrability
-* Extremely good acceleration for an early jet
+* Good acceleration for an early jet
 * Fast aircraft
 * Heavy armament
 '''Cons:'''
 * Engines overheat quickly at 100% power
-* Low ammo poo
+* Low ammo pool
 == History ==
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 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=su-11 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]