Spokoinyy - Revision history

U12017485: fuze -> fuse

2024-11-04T17:56:49Z

fuze -> fuse

U85531623: /* Pros and cons */ source: firsthand experience

2024-08-04T07:24:37Z

‎Pros and cons: source: firsthand experience

U38088265: /* Description */

2023-11-09T09:33:03Z

‎Description

U2126463: /* Description */

2023-11-08T22:12:27Z

‎Description

U79203180: Added to battle usage section

2023-04-25T10:43:21Z

Added to battle usage section

U38088265: /* Ammunition */ Converted to transclusion

2023-03-01T22:45:02Z

‎Ammunition: Converted to transclusion

U12017485: corrected turn time in stock AB

2023-02-19T21:57:12Z

corrected turn time in stock AB

U44629479: Edits

2022-10-29T20:07:11Z

Edits

U44629479: Edits

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U2126463: /* Secondary armament */ added belt composition

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‎Secondary armament: added belt composition

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 '''Pros:'''
 * Capable AA protection
 * Fast-firing 130 mm cannons with 360° of rotation and 82° of elevation
 * Equipped with a radar system
-* Can use proximity fuze shells
+* Can use proximity fuse shells
 * Superior FCS
 * Can launch ten torpedoes
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 '''Cons:'''
 * Guns aren't the most accurate even with the rangefinder
 * Lacking in protection against enemy gunfire

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 '''Cons:'''
 * Lacking in protection against enemy gunfire
 * Small number of crewmen

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the first part of the description, cover the history of the ship's creation and military application. In the second part, tell the reader about using this ship in the game. Add a screenshot: if a beginner player has a hard time remembering vehicles by name, a picture will help them identify the ship in question.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was the lead ship of Kotlin-class destroyers, which were the last gun only destroyers built for Soviet Navy. The Project 56 destroyers were improved, scaled down and modified version of a previous experimental Project 41-Neustrashimy destroyer, better suitable for large scale production as they were smaller, cheaper and easier to build in high quantities. Spokoinyy was laid down on 4th March 1953 and commissioned on 8th October 1957. She was assigned to Northern Fleet on 12th September 1956 and performed various training duties and exercises throughout her career before being decomissioned on 19th April 1990 and subsequently sold for scrap. Spokoinyy unlike other ships of her class, never underwent any modernization.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was the lead ship of the [[Pr.56 (Family)|Project 56 (Kotlin-class)]] destroyers, which were the last gun-only destroyers built for the Soviet Navy. The Project 56 destroyers were improved, scaled down, and modified versions of the previous experimental Project 41 - [[Neustrashimy]] destroyer, better suited for large scale production as they were smaller, cheaper, and easier to build in large quantities. Spokoinyy was laid down on 4th March 1953 and commissioned on 8th October 1957. She was assigned to the Northern Fleet on 12th September 1956 and performed various training duties and exercises throughout her career before being decommissioned on 19th April 1990 and subsequently sold for scrap. Spokoinyy, unlike other ships of her class, never underwent any modernization.
-Spokoinyy was introduced in [[Update "Starfighters"]]. She is a modified version of the previous Neustrashimy-class destroyer, sharing same hull design, magazine locations, aswell as the air track and search radar Fut-N or two quintuple torpedo launchers, although differently placed. The secondary 45 mm guns are split into one behind each main armament turrets and two between funnels on each side of hull, unlike two behind each main armament turrets on Neustrashimy. The Spokoinyy´s propulsion is divided into two sections with boilers and transmission paired under each funnel, so direct hit into one section does not leave the ship dead in the water.
+Spokoinyy was introduced in [[Update "Starfighters"]]. She is a modified version of the previous Neustrashimy-class destroyer, sharing the same hull design, magazine locations, as well as the air track and search radar Fut-N or two quintuple torpedo launchers, although differently placed. The secondary 45 mm guns are split into one behind each main armament turrets and two between funnels on each side of hull, unlike two behind each main armament turrets on Neustrashimy. The Spokoinyy's propulsion is divided into two sections with boilers and transmission paired under each funnel, so a direct hit into one section does not leave the ship dead in the water.
 == General info ==
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 The Spokoinyy is arguably most effective as an anti-air flagship, since it is able to detect aircraft from even dozens of kilometres away and has an effective AA range of potentially up to 7-9 km with the main guns. Absolutely no aircraft (in regular circumstances) should be able to surprise the Spokoinyy while the search radar is active. The Spokoinyy, when used in Enduring Confrontation events, is the most reliable "Jack-of-All-Trades" ship seen in-game, combining formidable anti-surface firepower with a capability for anti-air that surpasses even many cruisers.
 As a (relatively) modern destroyer, the Spokoinyy has a very capable fire control system, enabling prediction estimates (the aiming indicator) to update much faster than on the common WW2 era destroyers. This allows for greatly increased accuracy at longer ranges. A competent player in a Spokoinyy can reliably duel enemy destroyers at ranges that are several kilometres or more further than the ranges at which an enemy can effectively shoot back from.
 For example, a Spokoinyy can potentially start getting hits on small enemies such as destroyers from 10-15km away, whilst most players with WW2 destroyer calibre guns will have serious trouble hitting their own shots in return at such ranges, especially if the Spokoinyy is firing whilst being evasive with manoeuvres and throttle control, something which would normally heavily disrupt your own aiming but is allowed in the Pr.56 because of the fast update rate of the FCS. And with the high speed of the Spokoinyy, the ship can usually control the ranges at which battle is fought at, keeping the enemy from closing to effective gun range, especially since the advanced fire control commonly gives the Spokoinyy the first hits, which can often strike enemy propulsion modules and thus slow them down before they get the chance to close in. This is highly useful in EC events where the huge map size complements this kind of gameplay, whereas it may be less useful in the much shorter ranges usually found in regular matches.
 Absolutely no battleship should be engaged with the 130 mm as the cannons are ineffective at damaging capital ships. When facing heavily armoured vessels, torpedoes are a must as they will be your only reliable weapon against them. The Spokoinyy should move evasively when being fired at by a major ship as a single salvo can be enough to instantly cripple or even destroy you.

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the first part of the description, cover the history of the ship's creation and military application. In the second part, tell the reader about using this ship in the game. Add a screenshot: if a beginner player has a hard time remembering vehicles by name, a picture will help them identify the ship in question.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Starfighters"]].
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was the lead ship of Kotlin-class destroyers, which were the last gun only destroyers built for Soviet Navy. The Project 56 destroyers were improved, scaled down and modified version of a previous experimental Project 41-Neustrashimy destroyer, better suitable for large scale production as they were smaller, cheaper and easier to build in high quantities. Spokoinyy was laid down on 4th March 1953 and commissioned on 8th October 1957. She was assigned to Northern Fleet on 12th September 1956 and performed various training duties and exercises throughout her career before being decomissioned on 19th April 1990 and subsequently sold for scrap. Spokoinyy unlike other ships of her class, never underwent any modernization.
 == General info ==

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 The Spokoinyy is a Cold War destroyer, excelling in use as a support and anti air ship. The powerful 130 mm shells are able to decimate enemy destroyers and are capable of killing some of the weaker cruisers, in some circumstances. The main guns are also highly useful against aircraft, due to the high muzzle velocity HE-VT shells, great gun handling and your radar. The high speed and agility of the ship makes it a decent runner for capping points, evading enemies and generally moving around the map. The torpedoes can be formidable against cruisers and battleships if used correctly, though some people decide to leave them behind and focus on the guns. The 45 mm mounts are capable of providing decent secondary anti-surface fire against coastal vessels and are lethal to aircraft that they hit.
-The Spokoinyy is arguably most effective as an anti-air flagship, since it is able to detect aircraft from even dozens of kilometres away and has an effective range of 7 to 9 km with the main guns. Absolutely no aircraft should be able to surprise the Spokoinyy while the search radar is active. The Spokoinyy, when used in Enduring Confrontation events, is the most reliable "Jack-of-All-Trades" ship seen in-game, combining formidable anti-surface firepower with a capability for anti-air that surpasses even many cruisers
+The Spokoinyy is arguably most effective as an anti-air flagship, since it is able to detect aircraft from even dozens of kilometres away and has an effective AA range of potentially up to 7-9 km with the main guns. Absolutely no aircraft (in regular circumstances) should be able to surprise the Spokoinyy while the search radar is active. The Spokoinyy, when used in Enduring Confrontation events, is the most reliable "Jack-of-All-Trades" ship seen in-game, combining formidable anti-surface firepower with a capability for anti-air that surpasses even many cruisers.
 Absolutely no battleship should be engaged with the 130 mm as the cannons are ineffective at damaging capital ships. When facing heavily armoured vessels, torpedoes are a must as they will be your only reliable weapon against them. The Spokoinyy should move evasively when being fired at by a major ship as a single salvo can be enough to instantly cripple or even destroy you.
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 '''Pros:'''
-* Superior AA protection
+* Capable AA protection
 * Fast-firing 130 mm cannons with 360° of rotation and 82° of elevation
 * Equipped with a radar system
 * Can launch ten torpedoes
 * Has excellent SAPCBC shells
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ussr_destroyer_pr56_spokoinyy Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

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 The HE shell has excellent filler, at 3.8 kg, useful against coastal vessels and for setting fires on larger ships. The SAPCBC has a rather decent 2.2 kg of filler and 113 mm of penetration at 10 km, recommended for use against medium to large enemy destroyers and lightly armoured cruisers. The HE-VT is an air-bursting shell for use against aircraft, being highly effective in this role. The explosive filler is 3 kg, which is more than enough to tear the wings off the heaviest of enemy bombers. The HE shell has a high muzzle velocity, making aiming at longer ranges much easier.
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+{{:130 mm/58 SM-2-1 (130 mm)/Ammunition|130 mm OF-42 HE, 130 mm PB-42 SAP, 130 mm ZS-42R HE-VT}}
 === Secondary armament ===
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 The guns are great for tearing apart softer vehicles such as aircraft but AI gunners tend not to be that accurate. As the 45 mm is one of the largest calibre automatic AA mounts, the guns run out of ready-use ammunition distressingly quickly and the AI gunner can often fire at an incoming plane and use up all the ready-use ammo before the plane has even gotten close, leaving you defenceless unless you take notice and manually use the main guns to shoot the plane down instead.
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+* '''Universal:''' {{Annotation|HEF|High-explosive fragmentation}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-T*|High-explosive fragmentation tracer (self-destroying)}}
-! colspan="7" | Penetration statistics
-|-
+{{:45 mm/89 SM-20-ZIF (45 mm)/Ammunition|HEF-T*, HEF}}
 === Additional armament ===

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 |SpeedForwardStockAB = 64
 |SpeedBackStockAB = 29
-|TurnTimeStockAB = 94.2
+|TurnTimeStockAB = 117.483
 |TurnSpeedStockAB = 45
 |TurnTimeSpadedAB = 61.2

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 {{Specs-Fleet-Mobility}}
 <!-- ''Write about the ship's mobility. Evaluate its power and manoeuvrability, rudder rerouting speed, stopping speed at full tilt, with its maximum forward and reverse speed.'' -->
-As one of the most modern destroyers in the game, the Spokoinyy has a sleek hull and is equipped with powerful engines, enabling the over 3,000 t vessel to reach a top speed of 71 km/h (88 km/h in Arcade), a more than respectable speed for a destroyer, putting it on par with some of the faster coastal vessels ([[Albatros]], [[SKR-7]], etc). When it comes to manoeuvrability, the Spokoinyy is equally admirable. The ship is able to pull tight turns while retaining relatively high speeds, as well as having fast acceleration and deceleration.
+As one of the most modern destroyers in the game, the Spokoinyy has a sleek hull and is equipped with powerful engines, enabling the over 3,000 t vessel to reach a top speed of 71 km/h (88 km/h in Arcade), a more than respectable speed for a destroyer, putting it on par with some of the faster coastal vessels ([[Albatros]], [[SKR-7]], etc.). When it comes to manoeuvrability, the Spokoinyy is equally admirable. The ship is able to pull tight turns while retaining relatively high speeds, as well as having fast acceleration and deceleration.
 {{NavalMobility
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 The Spokoinyy is armed with 2 x 5-tube torpedo launchers. With a relatively heavy warhead of 400 kg, these are your main weapon against heavily armoured threats or when attempting sneak attacks at a distance, though you may wish to go into battle without loading them as they present a potential threat to yourself should they be hit and blow you up. Your torpedoes have a max range of 13 km (8 km without torpedo mode) and can be used at almost point blank, though the torpedo must travel at least 50 m to arm.
-'''1-metre depth:'''
+'''1-metre depth''' - This is the most universal depth used for all types of engagements. This depth is capable of hitting practically any vessel, including PT boats. The main downside is that enemy ships can see the trail left in the wake of the torpedo, potentially allowing your enemy some time to notice the threat and evade.
-This is the most universal depth used for all types of engagements. This depth is capable of hitting practically any vessel, including PT boats. The main downside is that enemy ships can see the trail left in the wake of the torpedo, potentially allowing your enemy some time to notice the threat and evade.
+'''4-metre depth''' - This is the recommended depth for attempting sneak attacks on major ships such as cruiser and battleships, as most of them have a draft extending over 4 m below the waterline This depth is setting also has the advantage of potentially being able to hit underneath the belt armour of an enemy, causing catastrophic damage. Only your team will be able to see the torpedo symbol and it will not leave any visible water trail as compared to the 1 metre depth torpedo.
 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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 ! Torpedo Mode !! Mass (kg) !! Maximum speed in water (km/h) !! Travel distance (km) !! Depth stroke (m) !! Arming distance (m) !! Explosive type !! Explosive mass (kg) !! TNT equivalent (kg)
 |-
-| {{Annotation|No|'Torpedo Mode' modification uninstalled}} || 2000 || 93 || 8.00 || 1 || 50 || TNT || 400 || 400
+| {{Annotation|No|'Torpedo Mode' modification uninstalled}} || 2,000 || 93 || 8.00 || 1 || 50 || TNT || 400 || 400
 |-
-| {{Annotation|Yes|'Torpedo Mode' modification installed}} || 2000 || 75 || 13.00 || 1 || 50 || TNT || 400 || 400
+| {{Annotation|Yes|'Torpedo Mode' modification installed}} || 2,000 || 75 || 13.00 || 1 || 50 || TNT || 400 || 400
 |}
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 == Media ==
 <!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
-''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
 == See also ==

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 ! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 ! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
-! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
+! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>mass (kg)
 ! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
 ! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
-! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
+! rowspan="2" | Explosive mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
 ! colspan="3" | Ricochet
 |-
 ! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
 |-
-| HEF || 1080 || 1.41 || N/A || 0.1 || 83.16 || 79° || 80° || 81°
+| HEF || 1,080 || 1.41 || 0 || 0.1 || 83.16 || 79° || 80° || 81°
 |-
-| HEF-T || 1080 || 1.41 || N/A || 0.1 || 92.4 || 79° || 80° || 81°
+| HEF-T || 1,080 || 1.41 || 0 || 0.1 || 92.4 || 79° || 80° || 81°
 |-
 |}

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	The guns are great for tearing apart softer vehicles such as aircraft but AI gunners tend not to be that accurate. As the 45 mm is one of the largest calibre automatic AA mounts, the guns run out of ready-use ammunition distressingly quickly and the AI gunner can often fire at an incoming plane and use up all the ready-use ammo before the plane has even gotten close, leaving you defenceless unless you take notice and manually use the main guns to shoot the plane down instead.		The guns are great for tearing apart softer vehicles such as aircraft but AI gunners tend not to be that accurate. As the 45 mm is one of the largest calibre automatic AA mounts, the guns run out of ready-use ammunition distressingly quickly and the AI gunner can often fire at an incoming plane and use up all the ready-use ammo before the plane has even gotten close, leaving you defenceless unless you take notice and manually use the main guns to shoot the plane down instead.
		+	* '''Universal:''' {{Annotation\|HEF\|High-explosive fragmentation}}{{-}}{{Annotation\|HEF-T*\|High-explosive fragmentation tracer (self destroying)}}
		+
		+	{\| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
		+	! colspan="7" \| Penetration statistics
		+	\|-
		+	! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" \| Shell
		+	! colspan="6" \| Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
		+	\|-
		+	! 100 m !! 1,000 m !! 2,000 m !! 3,000 m !! 4,000 m !! 5,000 m
		+	\|-
		+	\| HEF \|\| 4 \|\| 4 \|\| 4 \|\| 4 \|\| 4 \|\| 4
		+	\|-
		+	\| HEF-T \|\| 4 \|\| 4 \|\| 4 \|\| 4 \|\| 4 \|\| 4
		+	\|-
		+	\|}
		+	{\| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
		+	! colspan="10" \| Shell details
		+	\|-
		+	! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" \| Ammunition
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Velocity<br>(m/s)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Fuse delay<br>(m)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
		+	! colspan="3" \| Ricochet
		+	\|-
		+	! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
		+	\|-
		+	\| HEF \|\| 1080 \|\| 1.41 \|\| N/A \|\| 0.1 \|\| 83.16 \|\| 79° \|\| 80° \|\| 81°
		+	\|-
		+	\| HEF-T \|\| 1080 \|\| 1.41 \|\| N/A \|\| 0.1 \|\| 92.4 \|\| 79° \|\| 80° \|\| 81°
		+	\|-
		+	\|}

	=== Additional armament ===		=== Additional armament ===