Sherman III/IV - Revision history

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U20996359: Corrected and cleaned up the history sections

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Corrected and cleaned up the history sections

U20996359: Fixed factual errors

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U3243125: description and fixing some of the history parts

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description and fixing some of the history parts

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U130924622 at 10:36, 1 May 2024

2024-05-01T10:36:06Z

U130924622: /* Pros and cons */

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‎Pros and cons

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‎Pros and cons

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 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' were an experimental hybrid between two Sherman vehicles Sweden acquired post war from the UK, a total of four Shermans were bought in for trial and study purposes on foreign tank designs that could be useful for Sweden's own tank development. Sweden acquired two of the M4A4 version, one M4A2 and one M4 between 1946 and 1947 where they underwent different kinds of trials on how they would fare in Swedish terrain and the overall performance in proper field conditions. The {{PAGENAME}} is most likely a testing purpose vehicle on how different models still could be used on the Sherman’s platform in terms of comparability and how interchangeable the parts are for repairs. The vehicles were restored to their original configuration when the trials were done.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was an experimental hybrid between two Sherman vehicles Sweden acquired post war from the UK, a total of four Shermans were bought in for trial and study purposes on foreign tank designs that could be useful for Sweden's own future tank development and aquisitions. The {{PAGENAME}} was most likely a vehicle testing how different combinations of the Sherman platform performed together and how interchangeable the parts are for repairs. In-game the vehicle is erroneously depicted with a Sherman IV hull while the real vehicle used a Sherman IB hull. When the tests were completed the Sherman IB and III were restored to their original configurations before eventually ending up at Axvall tank museum. When Axvall closed they were transferred along with the rest of the collection to Arsenalen where they remain in storage.
-The '''{{PAGENAME}}''' is a hybrid Sherman that was for Swedish trials. It was introduced in [[Update "La Royale"]] as a Swedish premium vehicle, which gave Sweden a Sherman of its own and would bolster the Swedish lower tier line up. {{PAGENAME}} is played like most other [[M4 Sherman (Family)|M4 Sherman]] a good overall medium tank with a short stop stabiliser making it good for quick stops and getting the barrel on target. Sherman’s overall mobility is adequate enough to get around on maps, with angled armour making the vehicle more effective armour and the ability to bounce shells off the armour. But it’s still vulnerable to enemy fire if flanking and certain vehicles have high enough penetration making short work of the Sherman III/IV armour.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was introduced in [[Update "La Royale"]] as a Swedish premium vehicle, which gave Sweden a Sherman of its own and would bolster the Swedish lower tier line up. {{PAGENAME}} is played like most other [[M4 Sherman (Family)|M4 Sherman]] a good overall medium tank with a short stop stabiliser making it good for quick stops and getting the barrel on target. Sherman’s overall mobility is adequate enough to get around on maps, with angled armour making the vehicle more effective armour and the ability to bounce shells off the armour. But it’s still vulnerable to enemy fire if flanking and certain vehicles have high enough penetration making short work of the Sherman III/IV armour.
 == General info ==
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 == History ==
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-After World War II, Sweden purchased a few surplus Sherman tanks from Britain for evaluation and to learn about foreign tank design. They were tested in field conditions. All of the Shermans did quite well in the tests and were praised for their reliability and ease of use even with inexperienced drivers, and while not being made for the winter conditions they were testing in. Even though the tank was viewed favourably,  Sweden never fully adopted the Sherman due to them being as efficient as the Strv m/42 platform which were already deemed obsolete by the standards at the time which made into the decision of not procuring more Sherman tanks. Sweden was looking for new and better vehicles that they would be able to acquire and went to the British and looked into about procuring the more advanced [[Centurion (Family)|Centurion]] which would lead to them eventually acquiring [[Strv 81]] that would serve as one of Swedish army's main tanks. One of the acquired Sherman’s would be used in the late 1950's for testing of early stage systems that would be used in the future on the [[Strv 103 (Family)|Strv 103]] project.
 == Media ==

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 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' were an experimental hybrid between two Sherman vehicles Sweden acquired post war from the UK, a total of four Shermans were bought in for trial and study purposes on foreign tank designs that could be useful for Sweden's own tank development. Sweden acquired two of the M4A4 version, one M4A2 and one M4 between 1946 and 1947 where they underwent different kinds of trials on how they would fare in Swedish terrain and the overall performance in proper field conditions. The {{PAGENAME}} is most likely a testing purpose vehicle on how different models still could be used on the Sherman’s platform in terms of comparability and how interchangeable the parts are for repairs. The ultimate fate of the vehicle is unknown and was most likely scrapped when all trials were done.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' were an experimental hybrid between two Sherman vehicles Sweden acquired post war from the UK, a total of four Shermans were bought in for trial and study purposes on foreign tank designs that could be useful for Sweden's own tank development. Sweden acquired two of the M4A4 version, one M4A2 and one M4 between 1946 and 1947 where they underwent different kinds of trials on how they would fare in Swedish terrain and the overall performance in proper field conditions. The {{PAGENAME}} is most likely a testing purpose vehicle on how different models still could be used on the Sherman’s platform in terms of comparability and how interchangeable the parts are for repairs. The vehicles were restored to their original configuration when the trials were done.
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 == History ==
 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
-After World War II, Sweden purchased a few surplus Sherman tanks from Britain for evaluation and to learn about foreign tank design. They were tested in field conditions. All of the Shermans did quite well in the tests and were praised for their reliability and ease of use even with inexperienced drivers, and while not being made for the winter conditions they were testing in. Even though the tank was viewed favourably,  Sweden never fully adopted the Sherman due to them being as efficient as the Strv m/42 platform which were already deemed obsolete by the standards at the time which made into the decision of not procuring more Sherman tanks. Sweden was looking for new and better vehicles that they would be able to acquire and went to the British and looked into about procuring the more advanced [[Centurion (Family)|Centurion]] which would lead to them eventually acquiring [[Strv 81]] that would serve as one of Swedish army's main tanks. One of the acquired Sherman’s would be used in the late 1950's for testing of early stage systems that would be used in the future on the [[Strv 103 (Family)|Strv 103]] project. But at the end all except one of the Shermans would be scrapped and the only remaining one ended up in museum at Arsenalen.
+After World War II, Sweden purchased a few surplus Sherman tanks from Britain for evaluation and to learn about foreign tank design. They were tested in field conditions. All of the Shermans did quite well in the tests and were praised for their reliability and ease of use even with inexperienced drivers, and while not being made for the winter conditions they were testing in. Even though the tank was viewed favourably,  Sweden never fully adopted the Sherman due to them being as efficient as the Strv m/42 platform which were already deemed obsolete by the standards at the time which made into the decision of not procuring more Sherman tanks. Sweden was looking for new and better vehicles that they would be able to acquire and went to the British and looked into about procuring the more advanced [[Centurion (Family)|Centurion]] which would lead to them eventually acquiring [[Strv 81]] that would serve as one of Swedish army's main tanks. One of the acquired Sherman’s would be used in the late 1950's for testing of early stage systems that would be used in the future on the [[Strv 103 (Family)|Strv 103]] project.
 == Media ==

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Swedish medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "La Royale"]].
 == General info ==
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 == History ==
 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
-After World War II, Sweden purchased a few surplus Sherman tanks from Britain for evaluation and to learn about foreign tank design. They were tested in field conditions. All of the Shermans did quite well in the tests and were praised for their reliability and ease of use even with inexperienced drivers, and while not being made for the winter conditions they were testing in. Even though the tank was viewed favourably, Swedish never fully adopted the Sherman nor did the examples they did obtain see combat service. Inability to purchase more with sufficient spare parts, and other better vehicles being available may be some of the reasons for this decision. The tallness of the Sherman, and the weaknesses brought with that height were a partial inspiration for the future [[Strv 103 (Family)|Strv 103]] which was focused on minimizing height.
+After World War II, Sweden purchased a few surplus Sherman tanks from Britain for evaluation and to learn about foreign tank design. They were tested in field conditions. All of the Shermans did quite well in the tests and were praised for their reliability and ease of use even with inexperienced drivers, and while not being made for the winter conditions they were testing in. Even though the tank was viewed favourably,  Sweden never fully adopted the Sherman due to them being as efficient as the Strv m/42 platform which were already deemed obsolete by the standards at the time which made into the decision of not procuring more Sherman tanks. Sweden was looking for new and better vehicles that they would be able to acquire and went to the British and looked into about procuring the more advanced [[Centurion (Family)|Centurion]] which would lead to them eventually acquiring [[Strv 81]] that would serve as one of Swedish army's main tanks. One of the acquired Sherman’s would be used in the late 1950's for testing of early stage systems that would be used in the future on the [[Strv 103 (Family)|Strv 103]] project. But at the end all except one of the Shermans would be scrapped and the only remaining one ended up in museum at Arsenalen.
 == Media ==

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 * Adequate top speed allows it to get to positions in time, or to do tactical manoeuvres like flanking
 * Fitted with a vertical stabilizer, allowing more accurate fire on the move compared to other tanks, as well as better usage of shoot-n-scoot tactics
-* No MG port; removes the usual weakspot present on other Shermans
+* Missing the average Sherman MG weak spot
 '''Cons:'''

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 * Adequate top speed allows it to get to positions in time, or to do tactical manoeuvres like flanking
 * Fitted with a vertical stabilizer, allowing more accurate fire on the move compared to other tanks, as well as better usage of shoot-n-scoot tactics
-* No MG port; removes the usual weakspot
+* No MG port; removes the usual weakspot present on other Shermans
 '''Cons:'''

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 == Media ==
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-''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
 == See also ==

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+| '''66''' || 57&nbsp;''(+9)'' || 45&nbsp;''(+21)'' || 24&nbsp;''(+42)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+65)'' ||No
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