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U44629479: Undo revision 171611 by U141194325 (talk) Plagiarism from Wikipedia: Dassault Mirage III

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U141194325: history add, little weak tho.

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history add, little weak tho.

U125745468: Updated the Shafrir 2 IR Missiles section in the Usage in battles to describe it to have an uncaged seeker instead of a caged seeker.

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Updated the Shafrir 2 IR Missiles section in the Usage in battles to describe it to have an uncaged seeker instead of a caged seeker.

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 ! [[Shafrir 2]] missiles
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-* Without load
+* 1 x 880 l drop tank
 * 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
 * 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The Shahak was the name given by the IAF personal to the French Mirage IIICJ in service. It was Israel first Mach 2 capable fighter and it was it's main air superiority fighter for many years. It participated in the Six Days War and Yom Kippur War, as well as several border conflicts and skirmishes with Egyptian and Syrian forces, it's main enemy was the Soviet made MiG-21 interceptor. For it's pilots the new missiles carried by the Shahak proved to be too unreliable and most pilots would rather use the DEFA cannons equipped in the aircraft. Israel operated a total of 72 Mirage III fighters that were phased out soon after the Yom Kippur War in favour of more modern IAI Kfir and F-4 Phantom IIs
+The '''Shahak''' was the name given by IAF personnel to the French Mirage IIICJ in service. It was Israel's first Mach 2 capable fighter, and it was its main air superiority fighter for many years. It participated in the Six Days War and Yom Kippur War, as well as several border conflicts and skirmishes with Egyptian and Syrian forces. Its main opponent was the Soviet-made MiG-21 interceptor. For its pilots, the new missiles carried by the Shahak proved to be too unreliable and most pilots preferred to use the DEFA cannons equipped in the aircraft. Israel operated a total of 72 Mirage III fighters that were phased out soon after the Yom Kippur War in favour of the more modern IAI Kfir and F-4 Phantom II.
-It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]]. The Shahak is very similar in gameplay and BR to the French Mirage IIIC, at least in terms of flight performance. The Shahak however uses a very different missile loadout, using American made AIM-9Ds instead of the short range Matra Magic 1s used in the French variant. The Shahak is fast and very agile, like most delta wing fighters, however it's design makes it so that it has very good agility and AOA but it losses energy very quickly in any kind of manoeuvre. And because it's acceleration is not the best at low speeds it is necessary to stay fast in order to survive, this is even more evident once you realize the Shahak has no countermeasures and staying fast is it's best asset to avoid being hit with a missile
+Introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]], the Shahak is very similar in gameplay and BR to the French Mirage IIIC, at least in terms of flight performance. The Shahak however uses a very different missile loadout, using American-made AIM-9Ds instead of the short-range Matra Magic 1s used in the French variant. The Shahak is fast and very agile, like most delta wing fighters, however its design makes it so that it has very good agility and AOA but loses energy very quickly in any kind of manoeuvre. And because its acceleration is not the best at low speeds it is necessary to stay fast in order to survive, this is even more evident once you realize the Shahak has no countermeasures and staying fast is its best asset to avoid being hit with a missile.
 == General info ==
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 The AIM-9D is one of the longest-range missiles of the AIM-9 family, featuring a motor and aerodynamics almost identical to the AIM-9G/9H with an inferior seeker head and gimbal limits. It can effectively destroy aircraft 5-6 km rear aspect at ~5 km, ~3 mi altitude or more with the only drawback being that it is angled downwards with a caged seeker before launch making it slightly harder to use.
 The aircraft itself features a powerful engine and a delta wing configuration which allow it to accelerate at a decent rate and have great maneuverability but the control surfaces become less responsive at higher altitudes.
 In summary, a valid tactic is to start climbing at 20-25 degrees once you take off until you reach an altitude where your missiles can use their full range at the start of the battle, use your radar to lock on an enemy and fire your R530 missiles hopefully scoring a kill while avoiding sharp turns and doing your best to keep your speed high. Having high speed not only makes it harder for enemies to catch up to you or use their missiles to hit you, it also makes your missiles have an even longer range. Once you see that there are no more enemies at your altitude, there are most likely either a few running people on the enemy team left or there is a furball. In both cases you have the ability to sneak up on the enemy from your higher altitude and fire your missiles off scoring even more kills. One thing to keep in mind though is that the AIM-9D pulls too much lead when fired off from side-aspect so it will be easier to dodge.
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 * Greatly manoeuvrable
 * Good air-to-air missiles
 * 30 mm DEFA cannons are deadly at close ranges
 '''Cons:'''
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 == History ==
 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->[[File:Shahak.jpg|thumb|Israeli Shahak in display]]
 Shahak was the name given by the Israelis to their operated Dassault Mirage IIICJ. Israel placed an order for several aircrafts in 1959 to combat the new Mig-21 Mach 2 fighters fitted by many Arab nations. The Mirage fighters given to Israel had a couple of modifications, the Mirage was intended to be a high altitude bomber interceptor but Israel needed a fighter jet capable of air superiority missions.
 Therefore Israeli Mirages included extra fuel tanks instead of takeoff rockets and two DEFA cannons not present in the original French Mirages. The first Mirage fighters arrived to Israel in 1962 and were subsequently given to the 101 "First Fighter" Squadron. 24 fighters were initially ordered but that purchase was increased to 72 in 1961. Later in 1962 the 117th squadron started to operate the Mirage, and finally the 119th Squadron was the last receiver of the new purchase.
 Israel operated mainly the Mirage IIIC, but it also operated the Mirage IIIB two seat variant that lacked the interception radar. The Shahak was called that way because of it's new armament, but the new air to air missiles like the Shafrir 2 and Matra 530 proved too unreliable and pilots usually just used the DEFA cannons for air to air combat. During the early 1960s the Shahak was involved in fights in Syria with Mig-17s and Mig-21s were the missiles used by both sides proved unsatisfactory, however two Mig-21s were shot down with cannon shots.
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 The Shahak was present in several more conflicts, it saw extensive use in the Six Days War were it was Israel main air superiority fighter. After that it participated in several skirmishes with Egyptian and Syrian Mig-21s over border disputes, however it also saw combat against Soviet pilots flying over the Sinai Peninsula. During the Yom Kippur War the Shahak was down to less than 40 examples and saw most of it's use in patrols and flying reconnaissance. Since the IAF had more modern and capable F-4 Phantoms and IAI Nesher fighters in service. It still was used with success against Egyptian strike aircrafts and Syrian Mig-21s in several situations.
 The Shahak was quickly faced out in favour of more capable fighters after the Yom Kippur War and it's number just kept decreasing. More capable and modern versions of the American F-4 Phantom II and the IAI Kafir made the Shahak obsolete.
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 == Description ==
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-The Shahak was the name given by the IAF personal to the French Mirage IIICJ in service. It was Israel first Mach 2 capable fighter and it was it's main air superiority fighter for many years. It participated in the Six Days War and Yom Kippur War, as well as several border conflicts and skirmishes with Egyptian and Syrian forces, it's main enemy was the Soviet made Mig-21 interceptor. For it's pilots the new missiles carried by the Shahak proved to be too unreliable and most pilots would rather use the DEFA cannons equipped in the aircraft. Israel operated a total of 72 Mirage III fighters that were faced out soon after the Yom Kippur War in favour of more modern IAI Kafir and F-4 Phantom IIs
+The Shahak was the name given by the IAF personal to the French Mirage IIICJ in service. It was Israel first Mach 2 capable fighter and it was it's main air superiority fighter for many years. It participated in the Six Days War and Yom Kippur War, as well as several border conflicts and skirmishes with Egyptian and Syrian forces, it's main enemy was the Soviet made MiG-21 interceptor. For it's pilots the new missiles carried by the Shahak proved to be too unreliable and most pilots would rather use the DEFA cannons equipped in the aircraft. Israel operated a total of 72 Mirage III fighters that were phased out soon after the Yom Kippur War in favour of more modern IAI Kfir and F-4 Phantom IIs
 It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]]. The Shahak is very similar in gameplay and BR to the French Mirage IIIC, at least in terms of flight performance. The Shahak however uses a very different missile loadout, using American made AIM-9Ds instead of the short range Matra Magic 1s used in the French variant. The Shahak is fast and very agile, like most delta wing fighters, however it's design makes it so that it has very good agility and AOA but it losses energy very quickly in any kind of manoeuvre. And because it's acceleration is not the best at low speeds it is necessary to stay fast in order to survive, this is even more evident once you realize the Shahak has no countermeasures and staying fast is it's best asset to avoid being hit with a missile

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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]].
+The Shahak was the name given by the IAF personal to the French Mirage IIICJ in service. It was Israel first Mach 2 capable fighter and it was it's main air superiority fighter for many years. It participated in the Six Days War and Yom Kippur War, as well as several border conflicts and skirmishes with Egyptian and Syrian forces, it's main enemy was the Soviet made Mig-21 interceptor. For it's pilots the new missiles carried by the Shahak proved to be too unreliable and most pilots would rather use the DEFA cannons equipped in the aircraft. Israel operated a total of 72 Mirage III fighters that were faced out soon after the Yom Kippur War in favour of more modern IAI Kafir and F-4 Phantom IIs
 == General info ==
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 * Bleeds speed fairly quickly in sharp turns
 * No countermeasures (no flares or chaff)
 == History ==
-<!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
+<!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->[[File:Shahak.jpg|thumb|Israeli Shahak in display]]
-''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''
+Shahak was the name given by the Israelis to their operated Dassault Mirage IIICJ. Israel placed an order for several aircrafts in 1959 to combat the new Mig-21 Mach 2 fighters fitted by many Arab nations. The Mirage fighters given to Israel had a couple of modifications, the Mirage was intended to be a high altitude bomber interceptor but Israel needed a fighter jet capable of air superiority missions.
 == Media ==

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 == History ==
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-In 1952, the French government issued its specification, calling for a lightweight, all-weather interceptor. Amongst the respondents were Dassault with their design, initially known as the Mirage I. Following favourable flight testing held over the course of 1954, in which speeds of up to Mach 1.6 were attained, it was decided that a larger follow-on aircraft would be required to bear the necessary equipment and payloads. An enlarged Mirage II proposal was considered, as well as MD 610 Cavalier (3 versions), but was discarded in favour of a further-developed design, powered by the newly developed Snecma Atar afterburning turbojet engine, designated as the Mirage III. In October 1960, the first major production model, designated as the Mirage IIIC, performed its maiden flight. Initial operational deliveries of this model commenced in July 1961; a total of 95 Mirage IIICs were obtained by the French Air Force (''Armée de l'Air'', AdA). The Mirage IIIC was rapidly followed by numerous other variants.
+''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''
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 * Without load
 * 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
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 The aircraft also comes with the Matra R530E which is the infrared variant of the R530. It can be used at medium range at high altitude (preferable side-on) but it will be a missile that you rarely use since you have access to two AIM-9D missiles that are superior to the 530E. The R530E could then be traded for bombs or the regular R530 which also has all-aspect capabilities.
-There is also the Shafrir 2 IR missile which, despite featuring a caged seeker head, has great manoeuvrability as well as a long motor burn time. However, the missile has a relatively short range, and has difficulty hitting targets going the same speed as you at low altitude.
+There is also the Shafrir 2 IR missile which has great manoeuvrability, as well as a long motor burn time. However, the missile has a relatively short range, and can have difficulty hitting targets going the same speed as you at low altitude. the uncaged seeker helps this missile alot with turning targets by allowing you to lead the missile.
 The AIM-9D is one of the longest-range missiles of the AIM-9 family, featuring a motor and aerodynamics almost identical to the AIM-9G/9H with an inferior seeker head and gimbal limits. It can effectively destroy aircraft 5-6 km rear aspect at ~5 km, ~3 mi altitude or more with the only drawback being that it is angled downwards with a caged seeker before launch making it slightly harder to use.
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=mirage_3cj Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 ;Related development
 * [[Mirage III (Family)]]

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 {{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
 <!-- ''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.'' -->
-Due to the size of the Mirage IIICJ, its survivability is rather low. The large engine that covers almost half the length of your fuselage is very vulnerable to enemy fire. Any damage which will significantly decrease your power output and the massive wings will lose a large amount of lift when damaged.
+Due to the size of the Shahak, its survivability is rather low. The large engine that covers almost half the length of your fuselage is very vulnerable to enemy fire. Any damage which will significantly decrease your power output and the massive wings will lose a large amount of lift when damaged.
 The plane includes an RWR (radar warning receiver), which can be rather helpful.

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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:
+The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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 ! !! width="15%" | 1 !! width="15%" | 2 !! width="15%" | 3
-| rowspan="7" width="30%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_{{PAGENAME}}.png]]</div>
+| rowspan="9" width="30%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_{{PAGENAME}}.png]]</div>
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-! 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs
+! [[SAMP Type 21 (400 kg)|400 kg SAMP Type 21]] bombs
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-! 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs
+! [[SAMP Type 21 200 (400 kg)|400 kg SAMP Type 21 200]] bombs
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-! AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
+! [[AIM-9D Sidewinder]] missiles
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-! Matra R530 missiles
+! [[Matra R530]] missiles
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-! Matra R530E missiles
+! [[Matra R530E]] missiles
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-! Shafrir 2 missiles
+! [[Shafrir 2]] missiles
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 == Usage in battles ==

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 ! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
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-| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || N/A || N/A || ~12 || ~5
+| 1,460 <!-- {{Specs|destruction|body}} --> || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || - || - || - || ~12 || ~5
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 ! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
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-| < 920 || < 750 || < 650 || N/A
+| < 920 || < 750 || < 650 || -
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Shahak - Revision history

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U44629479: Undo revision 171611 by U141194325 (talk) Plagiarism from Wikipedia: Dassault Mirage III

U141194325: history add, little weak tho.

U125745468: Updated the Shafrir 2 IR Missiles section in the Usage in battles to describe it to have an uncaged seeker instead of a caged seeker.

U44629479: Edits

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