Sea Fury FB 11 - Revision history

U22067555: Updated payload

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U86844506: Corrected a few spelling mistakes, and changed "never-exceed speed" to "max structural limit speed" as that's the FAA term.

2023-10-08T18:03:40Z

Corrected a few spelling mistakes, and changed "never-exceed speed" to "max structural limit speed" as that's the FAA term.

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2022-10-20T21:44:47Z

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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-{{main|G.P. Mk.IV (250 lb)|G.P. Mk.IV (500 lb)|S.A.P. Mk.II (500 lb)|M.C. Mk.I (1,000 lb)}}
+{{main|G.P. Mk.IV (250 lb)|M.C. Mk.I (250 lb)|G.P. Mk.IV (500 lb)|M.C. Mk.I (500 lb)|M.C. Mk.I (1,000 lb)}}
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 * Without load
 * 2 x 250 lb G.P. Mk.IV bombs (500 lb total)
 * 2 x 500 lb G.P. Mk.IV bombs (1,000 lb total)
 * 2 x 500 lb S.A.P. Mk.II bombs (1,000 lb total)
 * 2 x 1,000 lb M.C. Mk.I bombs (2,000 lb total)

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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-{{main|G.P. Mk.IV (250 lb)|G.P. Mk.IV (500 lb)|S.A.P. Mk.II (500 lb)|RP-3|Triplex R.P.}}
+{{main|G.P. Mk.IV (250 lb)|G.P. Mk.IV (500 lb)|S.A.P. Mk.II (500 lb)|M.C. Mk.I (1,000 lb)}}
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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 * 2 x 500 lb G.P. Mk.IV bombs (1,000 lb total)
 * 2 x 500 lb S.A.P. Mk.II bombs (1,000 lb total)
 * 12 x RP-3 rockets
 * 4 x Triplex R.P. rockets

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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-{{main|G.P. Mk.IV (250 lb)|G.P. Mk.IV (500 lb)|RP-3|Triplex R.P.}}
+{{main|G.P. Mk.IV (250 lb)|G.P. Mk.IV (500 lb)|S.A.P. Mk.II (500 lb)|RP-3|Triplex R.P.}}
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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 * 2 x 250 lb G.P. Mk.IV bombs (500 lb total)
 * 2 x 500 lb G.P. Mk.IV bombs (1,000 lb total)
 * 12 x RP-3 rockets
 * 4 x Triplex R.P. rockets

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 * Carrier arrestor hook for extra versatility on RB and SB naval maps
 * Clear visibility cockpit with good all-round vision
-* Control surfaces remain responsive even as the plane approaches the never-exceed speed
+* Control surfaces remain responsive even as the plane approaches the max structural limit speed
 '''Cons:'''
-* Large engine can hider visibility on taking off and landings for SB pilots
+* Large engine can hinder visibility on taking off and landings for SB pilots
 * Post-war aircraft that can see rank V games
-* Can sometimes be outmanoeuvred in situations against certain American, Russian Japanese aircraft of equal rank
+* Can sometimes be outmanoeuvred in situations against certain American, Russian, and Japanese aircraft of equal rank
 * Horrible turn rate at most speeds that dogfights take place at; even Fw 190s can out-turn the Sea Fury at most speeds
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 [[File:FighterImage_Hawker Sea Fury T20 'VX281 - VL-120' (G-RNHF) (14130541842).jpg|thumbnail|right|Hawker Sea Fury T20 from the Royal Navy Historic Flight]]
-Whilst the Sea Fury was too late to see service within the Second World War, it made its impact on the opening stages of the Korean war with great distinction. Initially escorting Fairy Firefly Mk V's and USAF aircraft like the B-29 Superfortress, the Sea Fury soon found its self on secondary roles due to the ever-increasing threat of the MiG-15 now in the hands of Chinese and North Korean pilots. Despite this, on the 9th August 1952, a flight from No.802 Squadron were en route to a ground attack sortie when they were bounced by MiG-15 fighters. Peter Carmichael, flying Hawker Sea Fury WJ232 (Coded 114), damaged one of the Jet fighters in a head-on attack with the first and only Air-to-Air kill for the Sea Fury in the Korean War. The feat showed the remarkable potential of the aircraft, even when faced with vastly superior opposition and secured its place in the rapidly developing history of aviation.
+Whilst the Sea Fury was too late to see service within the Second World War, it made its impact on the opening stages of the Korean war with great distinction. Initially escorting Fairy Firefly Mk V's and USAF aircraft like the B-29 Superfortress, the Sea Fury soon found its self on secondary roles due to the ever-increasing threat of the MiG-15 now in the hands of Chinese and North Korean pilots. Despite this, on the 9th August 1952, a flight from No.802 Squadron were en-route to a ground attack sortie when they were bounced by MiG-15 fighters. Peter Carmichael, flying Hawker Sea Fury WJ232 (Coded 114), damaged one of the Jet fighters in a head-on attack with the first and only Air-to-Air kill for the Sea Fury in the Korean War. The feat showed the remarkable potential of the aircraft, even when faced with vastly superior opposition and secured its place in the rapidly developing history of aviation.
 Other nations to operate the Sea Fury include Canada, Pakistan, Cuba, Netherlands, Iraq, Australia, Germany, Burma and Egypt. Whilst the majority built were of the Fighter or Fighter bomber versions, the two seat and two-seat trainer versions were also popular on the export market, with the Hawker Sea Fury T 20 being the best example of the two-seat variant. Even after its operational service ended, the Sea Fury is still a popular racing aircraft among pilots, particularly at the Chino Air Races. Several museums, air forces and private collections house and operate examples of the Sea Fury, with the best example of this being the Royal Navy Historic Flight who have operated multiple Sea Fury's since the type's retirement.
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=sea_fury_fb11 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 == See also ==
 ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

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 * The Hawker Sea Fury FB 11 in game wears the code WJ232, which is the same Sea Fury that Peter Carmichael flew on the 9th August 1952 during the historic engagement with the MiG-15.
-=== In-game description ===
+{{break}}
 The Hawker Sea Fury was the last piston engined fighter in front line service with the Fleet Air Arm and, according to many critics, the greatest piston engined fighter in history. However, as with its contemporary – the Seafire F Mk.47 – it was a fighter out of time; it may have been one of the greatest fighters of its type but it was propeller driven in a jet age, and competition was slim as many air forces had already moved on to jet fighters.
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 The Sea Fury also served with the militaries of Canada, Australia, Burma, Pakistan, the Netherlands and Cuba. It was Britain's last piston engine fighter but lives on to this day as an air racer in several guises across the globe.
 == Media ==

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 File:FighterImage_Seafury 1920x1080 logo com.jpg
 File:FighterImage_Carmichael's Hawker Sea Fury.jpg|Peter "Hoagy" Carmichael's Hawker Sea Fury camouflage by printf8via
 </gallery>
 == See also ==

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 === Pros and cons ===
 <!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' -->
-[[File:FighterImage_Untitled 000041.jpeg|thumbnail|right|Sea Fury on deck and ready for deployment]]
+[[File:Wallpaper Sea Fury FB 11.jpeg|thumbnail|right|Sea Fury on deck and ready for deployment]]
 '''Pros:'''
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 == Media ==
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-File:FighterImage_Carmichael's Hawker Sea Fury.jpg|[http://live.warthunder.com/post/188932/ Peter "Hoagy" Carmichael's Hawker Sea Fury] Camouflage created by [http://live.warthunder.com/user/printf8via/ printf8via]
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 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
 * ''other literature.'' -->

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 == Usage in battles ==
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+<!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-In realistic battles the Sea Fury is a decent plane, in the early part of battle will struggle a little, its climb rate is only slightly above the average. It will not be able to outclimb other fighters like the BF-109, G.56 or many Japanese interceptors, so climbing straight towards the map center is not recommended.
+In Realistic battles, the Sea Fury is a decent plane. It will struggle a little in the early parts of the battle, as its climb rate is only slightly above average. It will not be able to outclimb other fighters like the [[Bf 109 (Family)|Bf 109]], [[G.56]] or many Japanese interceptors, so climbing straight towards the map centre is not recommended.
-After meeting the enemy it can struggle to outturn them, its turn rate is at most as good as the Fw 190D, dogfighting with anything will usually end up badly for it, also when pushed to defensive it will have some difficulties in scissors and other maneuvers because of mediocre roll rate and low flap speed limits. Forcing them to head to head situation might have mixed results, although the plane has four cannons they are placed in its wings, so any plane with the nose mounted cannon (G.55, G.56, C.205N, Bf 109) will have higher probability of getting a hit, however the Hispano cannons have higher muzzle.
+After meeting the enemy it can struggle to outturn them, its turn rate is at most as good as the [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190 D]], dogfighting with anything will usually end badly for it, also when forced onto the defensive it will have some difficulties in scissors and other manoeuvres because of mediocre roll rate and low flap speed limits. Forcing an opponent into head-on situations might have mixed results, as although the plane has four cannons with good muzzle velocity, they are placed in its wings, so any plane with nose-mounted cannons (G.55, G.56, C.205N, Bf 109) will have a higher probability of getting a hit.
 The most suited role for this plane is trying to gain the altitude advantage over the target and utilize its good high speed handling by performing Boom and Zoom, or go for Hit and Run tactics. Its ammo count is high so it can destroy a few planes this way in one flight and the player will not have to worry about the ammunition amount so much.
-Its level speed is better or equal to most planes that it will meet, so for example outrunning the Bf 109G should not be a problem, especially since it also has a higher structural speed limit.
+Its level speed is better or equal to most planes that it will meet, so for example outrunning the Bf 109 G should not be a problem, especially since it also has a higher structural speed limit.
-In simulator battles its level speed, very good cockpit visibility and overall good low altitude performance which is important in Enduring Confrontation battles can make it a hard to kill plane. Turning with anything should be avoided, with the only exception being planes like the Fw-190 which are still very dangerous because of superior roll rate. Since their speed is similar, trying to escape from them can be difficult.
+In Simulator battles, the high level speed, very good cockpit visibility, and overall good low altitude performance which is important in Enduring Confrontation battles can make it a hard-to-kill plane. Turning with anything should be avoided, with the only exception being planes like the Fw 190 which are still very dangerous because of their superior roll rate. Since their speed is similar, trying to escape from them can be difficult.
-Against the Bf 109 or tier IV Italian fighters it is just the best either go for BnZ or Hit and Run tactics, those planes have much better turn rate and the later versions (Bf 109K-4, G.56) also better energy retention. In SB its roll rate performance can be slightly negated by the controls not being so responsive, which can make it hard to aim at a high speed target in situations when they notice you and start to perform defensive manoeuvres.
+Against the Bf 109 or rank IV Italian fighters, it is best to either go for BnZ or Hit and Run tactics, those planes have much better turn rate and the later versions (Bf 109 K-4, G.56) also have better energy retention. In SB its roll rate performance can be slightly negated by the controls not being so responsive, which can make it hard to aim at a high speed target in situations when they notice you and start to perform defensive manoeuvres.
 The plane can be used to intercept the AI formations of attackers or bombers since its ammo count is very high, it can also help with winning ground battles. The Sea Fury can be used as a ground pounder, it can carry two bomb or rocket types which should be able to destroy light pillboxes or AI medium tanks, then take out some howitzers by using guns.
-In faster paced Ground Battles it has an option to be used against the enemy ground vehicles, it has access to the Triplex R.P. rockets. They are able to penetrate most medium tanks and heavy ones from the side, their penetration is up to 66 mm of armor. Attacking the ground units from the top can be hard because of poor manoeuvrability, flaps will not help so much with pulling it from the dive because of their high speed limit.
+In faster-paced Ground Battles, it has the option to be used against the enemy ground vehicles, with access to the Triplex R.P. rockets. They are able to penetrate most medium tanks and heavy tanks from the side, with up to 66 mm of armour penetration. Attacking the ground units from the top can be hard because of poor manoeuvrability, flaps will not help so much with pulling out from the dive because of their low speed limit.
-Its offensive armament: four Hispano Mk V cannons do not have enough penetration to deal with any tanks, the only vehicles that they can destroy are either SPAAG units or light wheeled vehicles, but attacking by getting close to anything that can shoot back is not recommended, this plane does not handle any damage very well.
+Its offensive armaments, four Hispano Mk V cannons, do not have enough penetration to deal with any tanks, the only vehicles that they can destroy are either SPAAG units or light wheeled vehicles, but attacking by getting close to anything that can shoot back is not recommended, this plane does not handle any damage very well.
 === Manual Engine Control ===