Sambad - Revision history

U52660634: /* Usage in battles */ sambad does not get fuselage mounted snebs like the french super mystere

2024-07-15T08:19:21Z

‎Usage in battles: sambad does not get fuselage mounted snebs like the french super mystere

U38088265: /* Suspended armament */ Added custom loadouts

2023-09-05T21:16:36Z

‎Suspended armament: Added custom loadouts

U38088265: Edits

2023-08-03T09:42:44Z

Edits

U120313908: /* Description // History */ New description and History of the aircraft with links to sources

2023-08-03T00:06:34Z

‎Description: ‎History: New description and History of the aircraft with links to sources

U38088265: /* Suspended armament */ Updated

2023-03-07T20:38:23Z

‎Suspended armament: Updated

U44629479: Edits

2023-01-30T08:45:22Z

Edits

U40820515: /* Offensive armament */

2023-01-29T20:59:16Z

‎Offensive armament

U40820515: /* Usage in battles */

2023-01-29T02:31:30Z

‎Usage in battles

U28580205: /* General info */ Relocated text and some edits

2023-01-27T06:47:42Z

‎General info: Relocated text and some edits

U40820515: /* Flight performance */

2023-01-27T04:22:27Z

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 {{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
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 * Without load
 * 2 x Shafrir missiles
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 * Equipped with a drogue chute to aid with braking during landings
 * Better high-speed acceleration than a lot of its contemporaries thanks to its afterburner
 '''Cons:'''

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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 * Without load
 * 2 x Shafrir missiles
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 * 12 x T10 151 rockets
 * 38 x SNEB type 23 rockets
 == Usage in battles ==

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-Israel placed an order for 24 Super Mystere B2s (called Sambad in Israel) in 1958.These planes were involved in the Six Days War in wich it saw extensive use. The aircraft was also involved in the USS Liberty Incident were 2 Sambads released their napalm bombs on the USS Liberty. The Sambad also saw use in the Yom Kippur War during 1973 were it was'nt so lucky and 6 will be shot down. It served well as the first supersonic fighter in IAF service.
+During the 1956 Suez Crisis, Israel realised a need for a new, long-range, high-endurance jet fighter. Thus, with close ties to France, they placed an order for 24 Super Mystere B2s (called Sambad in Israel) in 1958. These planes were involved in the Six-Day War in which it saw extensive use. The aircraft were also involved in the USS Liberty incident where 2 Sambads released their napalm bombs on the USS Liberty. The Sambad also saw use in the Yom Kippur War in 1973, during which 6 were shot down. It served well as the first supersonic fighter in IAF service.
-It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]]. The Sambad plays similarly to a delta wing fighter. Is capable of pulling extreme manoeuvres while it has the sufficient speed. The acceleration and cruise speed of the plane at low and medium altitudes is mediocre compared to similar BR fighters. This, alongside the low speed awful maneuverability and bad energy retention makes this plane best used as a support fighter. It can use the afterburner to climb to high altitudes or stay fast in the outskirts of the fight, picking slow moving enemys with its excellent guns or the Shafrir missiles. Pilots should stay fast, do wide turns to avoid loosing energy and help your team in different ways, picking up enemies that are closing in your allies and destroying damaged targets that are fleeing the battlefield.
+The Sambad was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]]. It plays similarly to a delta wing fighter, capable of pulling extreme manoeuvres while it has enough speed. The acceleration and cruise speed of the plane at low and medium altitudes is mediocre compared to similar BR fighters. This, alongside the awful low-speed manoeuvrability and bad energy retention makes this plane best used as a support fighter. It can use the afterburner to climb to high altitudes or stay fast in the outskirts of the fight, picking slow moving enemies with its excellent guns or the Shafrir missiles. Pilots should stay fast, do wide turns to avoid losing energy and help the team in different ways, picking up enemies that are closing in allies and destroying damaged targets that are fleeing the battlefield.
 == General info ==
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 == History ==
-<!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->[[File:Super Mystere B2.jpg|thumb|457x457px|Sambad in public display - [[wikipedia:File:Super_Mystere_Hatzerim_2901101.jpg|Contributions to Wikipedia]]]]
+<!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
-The '''Super Mystere B2 Sambad''' was operated by the IAF after an order for 24 aircrafts was placed in 1958. Operated mainly as a single seat bomber, it was the IAFs first supersonic, with an afterburner fighter and was used as its first-line plane from 1958-1962. The plane first entered service with the 105 Squadron at Hazor AFB. Some encounters during small border skirmishes between the Mig-17 and the Sambad occured in the late 1950s to early 1960s with no clear superior fighter at the end.
+[[File:Super Mystere B2.jpg|thumb|457x457px|Sambad in public display at the Israeli Air Force museum in Hatzerim]]
-At the start of the Six Days War Israel operated even more Mysteres thanks to an extra batch of ex-Armee de l'Air units joining the 105 squadron, that had 39 total aircrafts at the start of the war. During the first day, Israeli Sambads were tasked with different missions. They were used to attack enemy airfields and also participated in interception missions against enemy bombers. During the first day of the war, 105 squadron flew 128 sorties, encountered and shot down a pair of Syrian Mig-21s for a total of 5 air kills and several aircrafts destroyed on the ground during the raids against enemy airfields.
+At the start of the Six-Day War, Israel operated even more Mysteres thanks to an extra batch of ex-Armee de l'Air units joining the 105 squadron, that had 39 total aircraft at the start of the war. During the first day, Israeli Sambads were tasked with different missions. They were used to attack enemy airfields and also participated in interception missions against enemy bombers. During the first day of the war, 105 squadron flew 128 sorties, encountered and shot down a pair of Syrian MiG-21s for a total of 5 air kills and several aircraft destroyed on the ground during raids against enemy airfields.
-After this operations focus of the Sambads was placed to help Israeli ground forces in the attack. The Sambads were used to attack enemy armour, destroying tanks, artillery pieces and fortifications and disrupting enemy logistics in different fronts and also helping to provide air cover and ground support during airborne operations. A pair of Super Mysteres were part of the USS Liberty Incident, in wich, 2 Super Mysteres armed with napalm bombs released their ordinance in an American ship mistaken by Israeli intelligence as an Egyptian ship. 105 squadron flew a total of 507 sorties during the war and lost 9 aircrafts with 6 pilots killed and another taken captive
+After these operations, the focus of the Sambads was placed to help Israeli ground forces in the attack. The Sambads were used to attack enemy armour, destroying tanks, artillery pieces and fortifications and disrupting enemy logistics in different fronts and also helping to provide air cover and ground support during airborne operations. A pair of Super Mysteres were part of the USS Liberty Incident, in which 2 Super Mysteres armed with napalm bombs released their ordnance on an American ship mistaken by Israeli intelligence as an Egyptian ship. 105 squadron flew a total of 507 sorties during the war and lost 9 aircraft with 6 pilots killed and another taken captive.
-After the French arms embargo against Israel, and the identification of lacking engine performance in the aircraft, 26 Sambads were converted to the Sa'ar in 1973, a version of the Super Mystere B2 fitted with the same engine used in the IAF's A-4 Skyhawks, the Pratt & Whitney J52-P-8A. The Sambad will be taken out of service in 1976.
+After the French arms embargo against Israel, and the identification of lacking engine performance in the aircraft, 26 Sambads were converted to the [[Sa'ar]] in 1973, a version of the Super Mystere B2 fitted with the same engine used in the IAF's A-4 Skyhawks, the Pratt & Whitney J52-P-8A. The Sambad would be taken out of service in 1976.
 == Media ==
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 * [https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/dassault-super-mystere IAF Aircraft Inventory: Dassault Super Mystere]
-* [https://www.iaf.org.il/183-16712-en/IAF.aspx?indx=3 IAF - Dassault Super-Mystere B2 (Hebrew nickname: 'Sambad')]
+* [https://www.iaf.org.il/183-16712-en/IAF.aspx?indx=3 IAF - Dassault Super-Mystere B2 (Hebrew nickname: 'Sambad')]
 {{AirManufacturer Dassault}}
 {{Israel jet aircraft}}

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]]. It is a copy of the [[Super Mystere B2|Super Mystère B2]] found in the French tree, Israel having purchased them in 1958. It was both the Israeli Air Force's first supersonic fighter and afterburning jet.
+Israel placed an order for 24 Super Mystere B2s (called Sambad in Israel) in 1958.These planes were involved in the Six Days War in wich it saw extensive use. The aircraft was also involved in the USS Liberty Incident were 2 Sambads released their napalm bombs on the USS Liberty. The Sambad also saw use in the Yom Kippur War during 1973 were it was'nt so lucky and 6 will be shot down. It served well as the first supersonic fighter in IAF service.
 == General info ==
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 <!-- ''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.'' -->
 The Sambad flies in a similar manner to the preceding [[Mystere IVA (Israel)|Mystere IVA]], with excellent {{Annotation|AOA|Angle-of-attack}} at low airspeeds, behaving similarly to later delta-winged designs. This allows it to shed off energy and allow pilots to force aircraft that are on their tail to overshoot; however, this can allow the Sambad to be easily trapped in a low energy state, and the poor acceleration will not be able to save the pilot. Unlike the Mystere, the Sambad compresses at higher airspeeds (usually above {{Annotation|900 km/h|560 mph, 486 knots}}), restricting it to around 8-10 Gs of pull. This allows the Sambad to maintain energy and maintain higher airspeeds, and pilots are advised to use this to their advantage. This can make up for the lacklustre acceleration at the lower end of performance, allowing pilots to bleed the speed of opposing aircraft whilst keeping their own speed high. The roll rate is average, better than the [[MiG-17|MiG-17]] but below that of the [[F-86 Sabre (Family)|Sabres]], and pilots should be able to evade shots easily in most cases.
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 * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552 cannons, chin-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)
 [[File:Sambad guns.PNG|thumb|300px|Arrangement of 30 mm  DEFAs on Sambad]]
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 == History ==
-<!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
+<!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->[[File:Super Mystere B2.jpg|thumb|457x457px|Sambad in public display - [[wikipedia:File:Super_Mystere_Hatzerim_2901101.jpg|Contributions to Wikipedia]]]]
-''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''
+The '''Super Mystere B2 Sambad''' was operated by the IAF after an order for 24 aircrafts was placed in 1958. Operated mainly as a single seat bomber, it was the IAFs first supersonic, with an afterburner fighter and was used as its first-line plane from 1958-1962. The plane first entered service with the 105 Squadron at Hazor AFB. Some encounters during small border skirmishes between the Mig-17 and the Sambad occured in the late 1950s to early 1960s with no clear superior fighter at the end.
 == Media ==
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=md_460_sambad Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 ;Related development
 * [[Mystere (Family)]]
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 ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
-* ''topic on the official game forum;''
+* [https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/dassault-super-mystere IAF Aircraft Inventory: Dassault Super Mystere]
-* ''other literature.''
+* [https://www.iaf.org.il/183-16712-en/IAF.aspx?indx=3 IAF - Dassault Super-Mystere B2 (Hebrew nickname: 'Sambad')]
 {{AirManufacturer Dassault}}
 {{Israel jet aircraft}}

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 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-{{main|100/50 kg G.P. (100 kg)|250/50 kg G.P. (250 kg)|500/50 kg G.P. (500 kg)}}
+{{main|100/50 kg G.P. (100 kg)|250/50 kg G.P. (250 kg)|500/50 kg G.P. (500 kg)|Mk.2 incendiary}}
 {{main|Shafrir|SNEB type 23|T10 151}}
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 * 2 x 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (500 kg total)
 * 2 x 500/50 kg G.P. bombs (1,000 kg total)
 * 12 x T10 151 rockets
 * 38 x SNEB type 23 rockets

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 [[File:Sambad guns.PNG|thumb|300px|Arrangement of 30 mm  DEFAs on Sambad]]
-The Sambad is equipped with 2 x DEFA 552 30 mm cannons mounted on the underside of the nose; 150 rounds per gun giving a trigger time of 7.5 seconds. The DEFAs will be familiar to Israeli pilots, as every rank 6 Israeli jet uses the 30 mm DEFA. The cannons have good fire rate, great damage but a relatively low muzzle velocity at 810 m/s; although this is still higher than the Soviet [[GSh-23L (23 mm)|GSh-23]]. Pilots should expect to require plenty of lead, but the good damage and great ammo capacity for a cannon will serve well once well practiced.
+The Sambad is equipped with 2 x DEFA 552 30 mm cannons mounted on the underside of the nose; 150 rounds per gun giving a trigger time of 7.5 seconds. The DEFAs will be familiar to Israeli pilots, as every rank 6 Israeli jet uses the 30 mm DEFA. The cannons have good fire rate, great damage but a relatively low muzzle velocity at 810 m/s. Pilots should expect to require plenty of lead, but the good damage and great ammo capacity for a cannon will serve well once well practiced.
 === Suspended armament ===

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	* 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552 cannons, chin-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)		* 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552 cannons, chin-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)
		+	[[File:Sambad guns.PNG\|thumb\|300px\|Arrangement of 30 mm DEFAs on Sambad]]
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		+	The Sambad is equipped with 2 x DEFA 552 30 mm cannons mounted on the underside of the nose; 150 rounds per gun giving a trigger time of 7.5 seconds. The DEFAs will be familiar to Israeli pilots, as every rank 6 Israeli jet uses the 30 mm DEFA. The cannons have good fire rate, great damage but a relatively low muzzle velocity at 810 m/s; although this is still higher than the Soviet [[GSh-23L (23 mm)\|GSh-23]]. Pilots should expect to require plenty of lead, but the good damage and great ammo capacity for a cannon will serve well once well practiced.

	=== Suspended armament ===		=== Suspended armament ===

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 == Usage in battles ==
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-''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
 === Pros and cons ===

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 <!-- ''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.'' -->
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 === Survivability and armour ===