SU-152 - Revision history

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New Description Project - USSR Priority: SU-152

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‎Pros and cons

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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during the Closed Beta Test for Ground Forces before [[Update 1.41]].
+The '''SU-152''' is a Soviet self-propelled heavy howitzer used during World War II. Operation Uranus, the counteroffensive against Stalingrad, revealed how desperately the Soviet Army needed mobile heavy firepower to destroy German fortifications. The Soviet front-line ground forces lacked the firepower to destroy pillboxes and other fortifications. During this period, most Soviet howitzers and heavy guns were towed rather than self-propelled. Since towed guns were frequently pulled by horses or their crews, they were susceptible to counterattacks while travelling. The development of the SU-152 began when Soviet engineers installed a 152 mm ML-20S howitzer on a [[KV-1S]] heavy tank chassis. It was dubbed Zveroboy, which translates to "beast slayer", due to its impromptu role as a heavy tank destroyer that could take out heavy German armoured vehicles.
-A self-propelled gun built atop the KV heavy tank chassis, the vehicle carries the impressive [[ML-20S (152 mm)|152 mm ML-20S]] howitzer. To house the large gun, the vehicle structure itself is also large, which withers away the design's ability to conceal itself like other casemate structure tank destroyers.
+Introduced in the Closed Beta Test for Ground Forces before Update 1.41, the SU-152 is a tank destroyer that can serve many different purposes. Since most of the enemy at this point is heavily armoured, armour-piercing shells are the recommended ammunition of choice for engagement. However, in combat, high-explosive shells remain a viable option, particularly when targeting lightly armoured vehicles. However, as this vehicle takes a very long time to reload, players must make sure every shot counts.
 == General info ==
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ussr_su_152 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 ;Related development
 * [[ISU-152]]
 * [[ISU-152 (China)]]

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 * Makes up for speed with great turning time when stopped
-* Very powerful HE shells
+* Powerful HE shells
-* Impressive armor piercing damage
+* Impressive armour piercing damage
 * High penetration on AP shells
-* Generally good armor
+* Generally good armour
 * Good off-road manoeuvrability
 * Lowest profile of all of the 152 mm-armed tanks, allows for limited stealth
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 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ussr_su_152 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 ;Related development
 * [[ISU-152]]
 * [[ISU-152 (China)]]

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 * Makes up for speed with great turning time when stopped
-* Powerful HE shells
+* Very powerful HE shells
-* Impressive armour piercing damage
+* Impressive armor piercing damage
 * High penetration on AP shells
-* Generally good armour
+* Generally good armor
 * Good off-road manoeuvrability
 * Lowest profile of all of the 152 mm-armed tanks, allows for limited stealth
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ussr_su_152 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 ;Related development
 * [[ISU-152]]
 * [[ISU-152 (China)]]

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 ==== Ammunition ====
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+{{:ML-20S (152 mm)/Ammunition|BR-540, OF-540, BR-540B}}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====

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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ussr_su_152 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 ;Videos
-{{Youtube-gallery|LZFmnEDmbXM|'''{{PAGENAME}} Tank Review''' - ''NUSensei''|e54cLYJnH1g|'''The {{PAGENAME}} "Beast Slayer", Soviet Tier-3, Tank Destroyer''' - ''Angry Nerd Gaming''}}
+{{Youtube-gallery|e54cLYJnH1g|'''The SU-152 "Beast Slayer", Soviet Tier-3, Tank Destroyer''' - ''Angry Nerd Gaming''}}
 == See also ==

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 After Kursk, the SU-152 continued to serve as the Soviet Army's primary anti-fortification weapon in all of its front lines, especially during its Operation Bagration offensive in summer of 1944. However, production ended in December 1943 and thus combat losses caused a decrease in SU-152 quantity in Soviet inventory. This halt in the production was due to the introduction of the better armoured and more reliable [[ISU-152]], which was based on the newer [[IS-2]] heavy tank while still keeping the same gun and combat role. Despite that, the SU-152 remained in service until 1954, when the Soviets decommissioned, scrapped, or sold their remaining SU-152s to other allies such as Syria and Egypt.
-=== In-game description ===
+{{break}}
 This SPG was put into production and service in February 1943. It holds a unique record in that the design and construction of its prototype model took only 25 days. The vehicle was created based on the KV-1S tank. The powerful 152 mm ML-20 howitzer-gun's elevating mass with a 28.8 calibre barrel length was installed practically unaltered in its frame. Its crew of five were housed in a specially designed fighting compartment. The vehicle's hull and cabin were welded from rolled armour plates of 20, 30, 60 and 70 mm thickness. The gun mantlet was 60 mm thick. Its direct firing range came to 3,800 m, and its maximum range was 6,200 m. The howitzer-gun's rate of fire was 2 shots per minute. The vehicle's ammunition complement consisted of 20 separate loading quick-fire shells.
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 Thanks to its combination of mobility and high firepower, the SU-152 was used in three separate roles: assault weapon, tank destroyer and self-propelled howitzer. However, the weapon's low rate of fire and elevation angle along with its closed fighting compartment significantly hampered the vehicle's effectiveness. The SPG's other disadvantages were the absence of a defensive machine gun, its insufficient frontal armour for 1943 and its crowded fighting compartment. The lack of forced draught ventilation in the fighting compartment, particularly when the engine stalled, often lead to the crew suffocating during firing operations.
 == Media ==

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 | OF-540 || HE || 49 || 49 || 49 || 49 || 49 || 49
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-| BR-540B || APHEBC || 166 || 164 || 157 || 148 || 140 || 133
+| BR-540B || APHEBC || 166 || 164 || 156 || 146 || 137 || 129
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 ! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
 ! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
-! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
+! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>mass (kg)
 ! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
 ! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
-! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
+! rowspan="2" | Explosive mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
 ! colspan="3" | Ricochet
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 {{main|ML-20S (152 mm)}}
-The SU-152 carries, as the vehicle name suggests, a massive 152 mm gun. The gun has a massive 20+ second reload time, and packs a similarly-massive punch. The ML-20S is a Soviet WWII-era howitzer, developed from a WWI-era howitzer. The weapon can fire an extremely powerful APHE shell with 170 mm of penetration, while still packing 740 grams of TNT filler. The tank can also fire HE shells with 5.9 kilograms of explosive, as well as an APHEBC shell with more TNT filler. Thus, the shells can easily penetrate the frontal armour of most medium and heavy tanks at the SU-152's BR. In particular, the APHE/APHEBC shells can come as a nasty surprise, as they pack an impressive punch combined with strong penetration ability.
+The SU-152 carries, as the vehicle name suggests, a massive 152 mm gun. The gun has a massive 20+ second reload time, and packs a similarly-massive punch. The ML-20S is a Soviet WWII-era howitzer, developed from a WWI-era howitzer. The weapon can fire an extremely powerful APHE shell with 170 mm of penetration, while still packing 740 grams of TNT filler. The tank can also fire HE shells with 5.9 kg of explosive, as well as an APHEBC shell with more TNT filler. Thus, the shells can easily penetrate the frontal armour of most medium and heavy tanks at the SU-152's BR. In particular, the APHE/APHEBC shells can come as a nasty surprise, as they pack an impressive punch combined with strong penetration ability.
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-Notes:
+'''Notes''':
 * Shells disappear when all shells in the racks have been fired or loaded.
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 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-The SU-152 is a tank destroyer that serves many different purposes; the most accurate way to observe this vehicle is as somewhat of a "big brother" to the [[SU-122]] and as the "cousin" of the [[KV-2 (Family)|KV-2]]. However, this vehicle features many differences from its closest predecessors. For example, the SU-152's [[Battle ratings|BR]] is higher without any noticeable gain in firepower over its relatives. This presents a problem as the SU-152 will no longer be able to perform its trademark "one-shot" hits with the high-explosive rounds as often. However, unlike the other vehicles that fill the same role, the SU-152 gains access to highly effective armour piercing high explosive (APHE) ammo. This is the pinnacle of the SU-152's effectiveness. Nonetheless, turret shots with HE shells are still a viable option in combat. Due to the vehicle's BR, players are more likely to know and counter your strategy. Thus, the 152's new armour piercing rounds may come as a rude surprise.
+The SU-152 is a tank destroyer that serves many different purposes; the most accurate way to observe this vehicle is as somewhat of a "big brother" to the [[SU-122]] and as the "cousin" of the [[KV-2 (Family)|KV-2]]. However, this vehicle features many differences from its closest predecessors. For example, the SU-152's [[Battle ratings|BR]] is higher without any noticeable gain in firepower over its relatives. This presents a problem as the SU-152 will no longer be able to perform its trademark knock-outs with one hit thanks to the high-explosive rounds as often. However, unlike the other vehicles that fill the same role, the SU-152 gains access to highly effective armour piercing high explosive (APHE) ammo. This is the pinnacle of the SU-152's effectiveness. Nonetheless, turret shots with HE shells are still a viable option in combat. Due to the vehicle's BR, players are more likely to know and counter your strategy. Thus, the 152's new armour piercing rounds may come as a rude surprise.
-The biggest threats you will encounter at any point whilst playing the SU-152 are enemy tank destroyers. The dreaded Panzer IV-derived tank destroyers pose a significant threat; they can punch through the SU-152's armour at ranges of more than 1000m with the L70 gun while remaining at the extreme edge of your own effective firing range. Another frequent threat are the [[M10 GMC|M10]] and [[M18_GMC|M18]] tank destroyers. Boasting both range and speed, these machines can either destroy you from distances that you cannot hope to match or completely avoid your fire while still creeping closer. The final threat to this TD is actually centred on the vehicle itself: an extremely long reload time that leaves little room for error. One missed shot from within your enemy's effective firing range can mean your undoing.
+The biggest threats you will encounter at any point whilst playing the SU-152 are enemy tank destroyers. The dreaded Panzer IV-derived tank destroyers pose a significant threat; they can punch through the SU-152's armour at ranges of more than 1,000 m with the L70 gun while remaining at the extreme edge of your own effective firing range. Another frequent threat are the [[M10 GMC|M10]] and [[M18_GMC|M18]] tank destroyers. Boasting both range and speed, these machines can either destroy you from distances that you cannot hope to match or completely avoid your fire while still creeping closer. The final threat to this TD is actually centred on the vehicle itself: an extremely long reload time that leaves little room for error. One missed shot from within your enemy's effective firing range can mean your undoing.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 ;Skins
-* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=ussr&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=ussr_su_152 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
+* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ussr_su_152 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 ;Videos
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 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
-;Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
+;Related development
 * [[ISU-152]]
 * [[ISU-152 (China)]]
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 * [https://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/soviet/soviet_SU-152.php <nowiki>[Tanks Encyclopedia]</nowiki> SU-152]
 {{USSR tank destroyers}}

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 {{Specs-Tank-Armour}}
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-The SU-152 has decent protection for a tank destroyer, but still is inadequately-protected against any enemy projectiles. The vehicle is armoured mainly with 60 mm of rolled homogenous armour (RHA), covering the sides, back and glacis. The only thicker armour section covers the gun mantlet and corresponding front plate, armoured with 65 mm of cast homogenous armour and 75 mm of RHA, respectively. The top of the vehicle is armoured with 20 mm of RHA, meaning that most cannon-calibre aircraft projectiles will penetrate it with ease.
+The SU-152 has decent protection for a tank destroyer, but still is inadequately-protected against any enemy projectiles. The vehicle is armoured mainly with 60 mm of rolled homogeneous armour (RHA), covering the sides, back and glacis. The only thicker armour section covers the gun mantlet and corresponding front plate, armoured with 65 mm of cast homogeneous armour and 75 mm of RHA, respectively. The top of the vehicle is armoured with 20 mm of RHA, meaning that most cannon-calibre aircraft projectiles will penetrate it with ease.
 In terms of survivability, the SU-152's five crew members are relatively spaced out, meaning that the chances of an instant crew-knock are smaller. However, the main weakness in the SU-152's protection are it's ammo racks. The vehicle has two large ammo racks (shells on the left side, charges on the right side) that sit directly underneath the side 60 mm RHA belts. This means that any shot that penetrates the side of the hull will likely cause an ammo rack detonation. The engine is located at the very rear of the vehicle, covered by fuel tanks.
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 ! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 ! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
-! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
+! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
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 * Generally good armour
 * Good off-road manoeuvrability
-* Lowest profile of all of the 152mm-armed tanks, allows for limited stealth
+* Lowest profile of all of the 152 mm-armed tanks, allows for limited stealth
 * Great reverse speed (18 km/h)