SMS Elbing - Revision history

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 == Media ==
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 == See also ==

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-SMS ''Elbing'' was a light cruiser originally ordered by the Imperial Russian Navy with the name ''Admiral Nevelskoy''. However, after the start of WW1 she was confiscated and launched in 1914 as SMS ''Elbing'', being commissioned into the High Seas Fleet in September 1915.
+SMS Elbing was a light cruiser originally ordered by the Imperial Russian Navy with the name Admiral Nevelskoy. However, after the start of WW1 she was confiscated and launched in 1914 as SMS Elbing, being commissioned into the High Seas Fleet in September 1915.
-She only partook in 2 major operations, the first of which being the Bombardment of Yarmouth and Lowestoft, which were of some military importance with the main aim of the raid being to draw out defensive ships to be picked off by the German battlecruiser squadron or full High Seas Fleet if necessary. ''Elbing'' herself along with light cruiser ''Rostock'' attempted to draw the defensive force of cruisers and destroyers into the waiting guns of the German battlecruisers, but after seeing them, the British ships turned away. Light cruiser HMS ''Conquest'' and destroyer HMS ''Laertes'' still received heavy damage, as well as an unnamed light cruiser being slightly damaged. The result was inconclusive as the nearby British forces were too small to challenge the German ships and the attackers withdrew before significant forces like the British fast response battlecruiser squadron or Grand Fleet could arrive. Her second and final battle would be as part of the Battle of Jutland in May/June 1916, the only full scale battleship clash during the war and the last naval battle mainly fought by battleships. On 31st May ''Elbing'' was part of Scouting Group II - also containing her only sister ship SMS ''Pillau'' - where after first sighting the British 1st Light Cruiser Squadron after they opened fire on German torpedo boats, ''Elbing'' scored the first hit of the battle against light cruiser HMS ''Galatea'' at extreme range. After disengaging and a brief attempt to shoot down a British seaplane, Scouting Group II encountered and engaged HMS ''Chester'', scoring several hits. British battlecruisers intervened, disabling a light cruiser but scoring no hits on ''Elbing'' despite a torpedo passing under her without detonating. ''Elbing'' was later hit by a single shot from the 2nd Light Cruiser Squadron, knocking out her wireless station, killing 4 and wounding 12. After midnight, the German fleet found the British rear destroyer screen, at which time ''Elbing'' was on the port side of the line and opened fire just after dreadnought [[SMS Westfalen|SMS ''Westfalen'']] began the engagement. The destroyers launched a torpedo attack, forcing the 3 cruisers to turn starboard, straight towards the German line.
+She only partook in 2 major operations, the first of which being the Bombardment of Yarmouth and Lowestoft, which were of some military importance with the main aim of the raid being to draw out defensive ships to be picked off by the German battlecruiser squadron or full High Seas Fleet if necessary. Elbing herself along with light cruiser Rostock attempted to draw the defensive force of cruisers and destroyers into the waiting guns of the German battlecruisers, but after seeing them, the British ships turned away. Light cruiser HMS Conquest and destroyer HMS Laertes still received heavy damage, as well as an unnamed light cruiser being slightly damaged. The result was inconclusive as the nearby British forces were too small to challenge the German ships and the attackers withdrew before significant forces like the British fast response battlecruiser squadron or Grand Fleet could arrive. Her second and final battle would be as part of the Battle of Jutland in May/June 1916, the only full scale battleship clash during the war and the last naval battle mainly fought by battleships. On 31st May Elbing was part of Scouting Group II - also containing her only sister ship SMS Pillau - where after first sighting the British 1st Light Cruiser Squadron after they opened fire on German torpedo boats, Elbing scored the first hit of the battle against light cruiser HMS Galatea at extreme range. After disengaging and a brief attempt to shoot down a British seaplane, Scouting Group II encountered and engaged HMS Chester, scoring several hits. British battlecruisers intervened, disabling a light cruiser but scoring no hits on Elbing despite a torpedo passing under her without detonating. Elbing was later hit by a single shot from the 2nd Light Cruiser Squadron, knocking out her wireless station, killing 4 and wounding 12. After midnight, the German fleet found the British rear destroyer screen, at which time Elbing was on the port side of the line and opened fire just after dreadnought [[SMS Westfalen]] began the engagement. The destroyers launched a torpedo attack, forcing the 3 cruisers to turn starboard, straight towards the German line.
-''Elbing'' would not return from the Battle of Jutland, as during the turn to starboard she attempted to slot between battleships ''Nassau'' and ''Posen'', but ''Posen''<nowiki/>'s captain did not realize this until it was too late to avoid a collision. ''Posen'' turned hard to starboard, but still collided with ''Elbing''<nowiki/>'s starboard quarter, holing it below the waterline and flooding the starboard engine first. She took on a list of 18 degrees allowing the water to spread to the port engine room, forcing all engines to be shut down, causing the ship to lose all electrical power. She was immobilised but not in danger of sinking, so after a torpedo boat took off most of her crew, her commander and a few officers rigged an improvised sail to bring her closer to shore. This was short-lived, however, as British destroyers were sighted nearby and the order to scuttle the ship was given. The remaining men set off in the ship's cutter, rescuing a surgeon from HMS ''Tipperary'' before being met by a Dutch trawler which took them to Holland.
+Elbing would not return from the Battle of Jutland, as during the turn to starboard she attempted to slot between battleships Nassau and Posen, but Posen's captain did not realise this until it was too late to avoid a collision. Posen turned hard to starboard, but still collided with Elbing's starboard quarter, holing it below the waterline and flooding the starboard engine first. She took on a list of 18 degrees allowing the water to spread to the port engine room, forcing all engines to be shut down, causing the ship to lose all electrical power. She was immobilised but not in danger of sinking, so after a torpedo boat took off most of her crew, her commander and a few officers rigged an improvised sail to bring her closer to shore. This was short-lived, however, as British destroyers were sighted nearby and the order to scuttle the ship was given. The remaining men set off in the ship's cutter, rescuing a surgeon from HMS Tipperary before being met by a Dutch trawler which took them to Holland.
-Over the Battle of Jutland, ''Elbing'' expended 230 rounds of 15 cm ammunition and 1 torpedo, with only 4 men killed and 12 wounded.
+Over the Battle of Jutland, Elbing expended 230 rounds of 15 cm ammunition and 1 torpedo, with only 4 men killed and 12 wounded.
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 SMS ''Elbing'' was a light cruiser originally ordered by the Imperial Russian Navy with the name ''Admiral Nevelskoy''. However, after the start of WW1 she was confiscated and launched in 1914 as SMS ''Elbing'', being commissioned into the High Seas Fleet in September 1915.
-She only partook in 2 major operations, the first of which being the Bombardment of Yarmouth and Lowestoft, which were of some military importance with the main aim of the raid being to draw out defensive ships to be picked off by the German battlecruiser squadron or full High Seas Fleet if necessary. ''Elbing'' herself along with light cruiser ''Rostock'' attempted to draw the defensive force of cruisers and destroyers into the waiting guns of the German battlecruisers, but after seeing them, the British ships turned away. Light cruiser HMS ''Conquest'' and destroyer HMS ''Laertes'' still received heavy damage as well as an unnamed light cruiser being slightly damaged. The result was inconclusive as the nearby British forces were too small to challenge the German ships and the attackers withdrew before significant forces like the British fast response battlecruiser squadron or Grand Fleet could arrive. Her second and final battle would be as part of the Battle of Jutland in May/June 1916, the only full scale battleship clash during the war and the last naval battle mainly fought by battleships. On 31st May ''Elbing'' was part of Scouting Group II - also containing her only sister ship SMS ''Pillau'' - where after first sighting the British 1st Light Cruiser Squadron after they opened fire on German torpedo boats, ''Elbing'' scored the first hit of the battle against light cruiser HMS ''Galatea'' at extreme range. After disengaging and a brief attempt to shoot down a British seaplane, Scouting Group II encountered and engaged HMS ''Chester'', scoring several hits. British battlecruisers intervened, disabling a light cruiser but scoring no hits on ''Elbing'' despite a torpedo passing under her without detonating. ''Elbing'' was later hit by a single shot from the 2nd Light Cruiser Squadron, knocking out her wireless station, killing 4 and wounding 12. After midnight, the German fleet found the British rear destroyer screen, at which time ''Elbing'' was on the port side of the line and opened fire just after dreadnought [[SMS Westfalen|SMS ''Westfalen'']] began the engagement. The destroyers launched a torpedo attack forcing the 3 cruisers to turn starboard, straight towards the German line.
+She only partook in 2 major operations, the first of which being the Bombardment of Yarmouth and Lowestoft, which were of some military importance with the main aim of the raid being to draw out defensive ships to be picked off by the German battlecruiser squadron or full High Seas Fleet if necessary. ''Elbing'' herself along with light cruiser ''Rostock'' attempted to draw the defensive force of cruisers and destroyers into the waiting guns of the German battlecruisers, but after seeing them, the British ships turned away. Light cruiser HMS ''Conquest'' and destroyer HMS ''Laertes'' still received heavy damage, as well as an unnamed light cruiser being slightly damaged. The result was inconclusive as the nearby British forces were too small to challenge the German ships and the attackers withdrew before significant forces like the British fast response battlecruiser squadron or Grand Fleet could arrive. Her second and final battle would be as part of the Battle of Jutland in May/June 1916, the only full scale battleship clash during the war and the last naval battle mainly fought by battleships. On 31st May ''Elbing'' was part of Scouting Group II - also containing her only sister ship SMS ''Pillau'' - where after first sighting the British 1st Light Cruiser Squadron after they opened fire on German torpedo boats, ''Elbing'' scored the first hit of the battle against light cruiser HMS ''Galatea'' at extreme range. After disengaging and a brief attempt to shoot down a British seaplane, Scouting Group II encountered and engaged HMS ''Chester'', scoring several hits. British battlecruisers intervened, disabling a light cruiser but scoring no hits on ''Elbing'' despite a torpedo passing under her without detonating. ''Elbing'' was later hit by a single shot from the 2nd Light Cruiser Squadron, knocking out her wireless station, killing 4 and wounding 12. After midnight, the German fleet found the British rear destroyer screen, at which time ''Elbing'' was on the port side of the line and opened fire just after dreadnought [[SMS Westfalen|SMS ''Westfalen'']] began the engagement. The destroyers launched a torpedo attack, forcing the 3 cruisers to turn starboard, straight towards the German line.
-''Elbing'' would not return from the Battle of Jutland, as during the turn to starboard she attempted to slot between battleships ''Nassau'' and ''Posen'', but ''Posen''<nowiki/>'s captain did not realise this until it was too late to avoid a collision. ''Posen'' turned hard to starboard but still collided with ''Elbing''<nowiki/>'s starboard quarter, holing it below the waterline and flooding the starboard engine first. She took on a list of 18 degrees allowing the water to spread to the port engine room, forcing all engines to be shut down causing the ship to lose all electrical power. She was immobilised but not in danger of sinking, so after a torpedo boat took off most of her crew, her commander and a few officers rigged an improvised sail to bring her closer to shore. This was short-lived however, as British destroyers were sighted nearby and the order to scuttle the ship was given. The remaining men set off in the ship's cutter, rescuing a surgeon from HMS ''Tipperary'' before being met by a Dutch trawler which took them to Holland.
+''Elbing'' would not return from the Battle of Jutland, as during the turn to starboard she attempted to slot between battleships ''Nassau'' and ''Posen'', but ''Posen''<nowiki/>'s captain did not realize this until it was too late to avoid a collision. ''Posen'' turned hard to starboard, but still collided with ''Elbing''<nowiki/>'s starboard quarter, holing it below the waterline and flooding the starboard engine first. She took on a list of 18 degrees allowing the water to spread to the port engine room, forcing all engines to be shut down, causing the ship to lose all electrical power. She was immobilised but not in danger of sinking, so after a torpedo boat took off most of her crew, her commander and a few officers rigged an improvised sail to bring her closer to shore. This was short-lived, however, as British destroyers were sighted nearby and the order to scuttle the ship was given. The remaining men set off in the ship's cutter, rescuing a surgeon from HMS ''Tipperary'' before being met by a Dutch trawler which took them to Holland.
 Over the Battle of Jutland, ''Elbing'' expended 230 rounds of 15 cm ammunition and 1 torpedo, with only 4 men killed and 12 wounded.

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-''Some ships are fitted with weapons of various calibres. Secondary armaments are defined as weapons chosen with the control <code>Select secondary weapon</code>. Evaluate the secondary armaments and give advice on how to use them. Describe the ammunition available for the secondary armament. Provide recommendations on how to use them and which ammunition to choose. Remember that any anti-air armament, even heavy calibre weapons, belong in the next section. If there is no secondary armament, remove this section.''
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 === Additional armament ===

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 | Sprgr. L/4.1 Kz || HE || 21 || 21 || 21 || 21 || 21 || 21
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-| Sprgr. L/4.1 Bd.Z || SAPBC || 95 || 80 || 61 || 47 || 37 || 28
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 | Sprgr. L/4.1 Kz || HE || 835 || 45.3 || 0 || 0.1 || 1,600 || 79° || 80° || 81°
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-| Sprgr. L/4.1 Bd.Z || SAPBC || 835 || 45.3 || 0.01 || 7 || 1,050 || 48° || 63° || 71°
+| Sprgr. L/4.1 Bdz || SAPBC || 835 || 45.3 || 0.01 || 7 || 1,050 || 48° || 63° || 71°
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-| Sprgr. L/3.7 || APCBC || 835 || 45.3 || 0.015 || 7 || 990 || 48° || 63° || 71°
+| Psgr. L/3.7 || APCBC || 835 || 45.3 || 0.015 || 7 || 990 || 48° || 63° || 71°
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-SMS Elbing is a well protected ship, having a turtleback armor scheme (40mm thick, with 80mm panels at the front and rear), like many other heavier German ships. Additionally, it has coal bunkers, which can provide a bit of extra protection at times. Main batteries are shielded by 50mm of armor, which will protect them from most, if not all, HE shells which will come their way. Secondary cannons have no protection, but they arent very useful anyway. The bridge is protected by 75mm of armor on all sides. It is likely the single best protected ship at it's tier.
+SMS Elbing is a well protected ship, having a turtleback armour scheme (40 mm thick, with 80 mm panels at the front and rear), like many other heavier German ships. Additionally, it has coal bunkers, which can provide a bit of extra protection at times. Main batteries are shielded by 50 mm of armour, which will protect them from most, if not all, HE shells that will come their way. Secondary cannons have no protection, but they aren't very useful anyway. The bridge is protected by 75 mm of armour on all sides. It is a well-protected ship for its BR.
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