S-68 (57 mm) - Revision history

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 * {{Specs-Link|ussr_zsu_57_2}}
-* {{Specs-Link|il_zsu_57_2}} (Israel)
+* {{Specs-Link|it_zsu_57_2}}
-* {{Specs-Link|sw_zsu_57_2}} (Finland)
+* {{Specs-Link|sw_zsu_57_2}}
-* {{Specs-Link|it_zsu_57_2}} (Hungary)
+* {{Specs-Link|il_zsu_57_2}}
 == General info ==
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 {{USSR anti-aircraft guns}}
 {{Sweden anti-aircraft guns}}
-{{Israel anti-aircraft guns}}{{Italy anti-aircraft guns}}
+{{Israel anti-aircraft guns}}
 [[Category:Anti-aircraft guns]]

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 * {{Specs-Link|il_zsu_57_2}} (Israel)
 * {{Specs-Link|sw_zsu_57_2}} (Finland)
-* {{Specs-Link|it_zsu_57_2}}(Hungary)
+* {{Specs-Link|it_zsu_57_2}} (Hungary)
 == General info ==

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 * {{Specs-Link|ussr_zsu_57_2}}
-* {{Specs-Link|il_zsu_57_2}} (Israel)
+* {{Specs-Link|il_zsu_57_2}} (Israel)
-* {{Specs-Link|sw_zsu_57_2}} (Sweden)
+* {{Specs-Link|sw_zsu_57_2}} (Finland)
 == General info ==
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 === Available ammunition ===
 <!-- ''Describe the shells that are available for the weapon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).'' -->
 * '''Default:''' {{Annotation|HE*|High-explosive fragmentation (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|APCBC|Armour-piercing capped ballistic capped}} - Half the rounds in this belt are useless against tanks or planes. However, against other SPAA this belt can reliably take out crew, armament, ammo and engine. Having one belt in reserve can help.
 * '''BR-281SP:''' {{Annotation|APCBC|Armour-piercing capped ballistic capped}} - An anti-tank belt, it is comprised of APCBC shells that can penetrate most tanks from the side. However, the shells do not contain any explosive filler, so it is recommended to upgrade to the BR-281U belt when possible.
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 === Comparison with analogues ===
 <!-- ''Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns that have firepower equal to this weapon.'' -->
 * [[WA318 (57 mm)|57 mm WA318]] - Chinese equivalent of the S-68, the S-68 has a better traverse speed but the WA318 has access to HE-VT shell which vastly boost its anti-aircraft capabilities.
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 == See also ==
 ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 * ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;''
 * ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''
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 == External links ==
 ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
 * ''other literature.''
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 {{USSR anti-aircraft guns}}
 {{Sweden anti-aircraft guns}}
-{{Israel anti-aircraft guns}}
+{{Israel anti-aircraft guns}}{{Italy anti-aircraft guns}}
 [[Category:Anti-aircraft guns]]

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 <!-- ''Describe the shells that are available for the weapon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).'' -->
 * '''Default:''' {{Annotation|HE*|High-explosive fragmentation (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|APCBC|Armour-piercing capped ballistic capped}} - Half the rounds in this belt are useless against tanks or planes. However, against other SPAA this belt can reliably take out crew, armament, ammo and engine. Having one belt in reserve can help.
-* '''BR-281:''' {{Annotation|APCBC|Armour-piercing capped ballistic capped}} - This will be your main anti-tank belt, it is comprised of fully APCBC shells that can penetrate most tanks from the side.
+* '''BR-281SP:''' {{Annotation|APCBC|Armour-piercing capped ballistic capped}} - An anti-tank belt, it is comprised of APCBC shells that can penetrate most tanks from the side. However, the shells do not contain any explosive filler, so it is recommended to upgrade to the BR-281U belt when possible.
-* '''OR-281U:''' {{Annotation|HE*|High-explosive fragmentation (self-destroying)}} - Versus planes. One or two hits usually gets the job done. Heavy armoured attackers and bombers may require more though.
+* '''OR-281U:''' {{Annotation|HE*|High-explosive fragmentation (self-destroying)}} - For use against planes. One or two hits usually gets the job done. Heavy armoured attackers and bombers may require more though.
-* '''BR-281U:''' {{Annotation|APCBC|Armour-piercing capped ballistic capped}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HE*|High-explosive fragmentation (self-destroying)}} - A mix of APCBC and HE shells, it is not recommended to use this belt as there is no extra penetration and the mix of APCBC and HE is extremely detrimental when compared to BR-281 belt.
+* '''BR-281U:''' {{Annotation|APCBC|Armour-piercing capped ballistic capped}} - Very similar to the preceding BR-281SP belt; however, the shells now have a small amount of explosive filler, making them slightly more efficient against ground vehicles.
-{{:{{PAGENAME}}/Ammunition|APCBC, HE*}}
+{{:{{PAGENAME}}/Ammunition|BR-281SP, OR-281U, BR-281U}}
 === Comparison with analogues ===

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 * '''BR-281U:''' {{Annotation|APCBC|Armour-piercing capped ballistic capped}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HE*|High-explosive fragmentation (self-destroying)}} - A mix of APCBC and HE shells, it is not recommended to use this belt as there is no extra penetration and the mix of APCBC and HE is extremely detrimental when compared to BR-281 belt.
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+{{:{{PAGENAME}}/Ammunition|APCBC, HE*}}
 === Comparison with analogues ===

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 * {{Specs-Link|ussr_zsu_57_2}}
 * {{Specs-Link|il_zsu_57_2}} (Israel)
-* ▄{{Specs-Link|sw_zsu_57_2}} (Sweden)
+* {{Specs-Link|sw_zsu_57_2}} (Sweden)
 == General info ==
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 == History ==
 <!-- ''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>.'' -->
-During the Great Patriotic War (Eastern Front of WW2), Soviets soon realized that their anti-aircraft gun inventory was insufficient to handle targets at higher altitudes (both 25 mm and 37 mm couldn't travel very far before being ineffective, and larger calibre guns required long reload time); it was deemed that a new anti-aircraft gun must be made to cover the mid-calibre range.
+During the Great Patriotic War (Eastern Front of WW2), Soviets soon realized that their anti-aircraft gun inventory was insufficient to handle targets at higher altitudes (both 25 mm and 37 mm couldn't travel very far before being ineffective, and larger calibre guns required long reload time); it was deemed that a new anti-aircraft gun must be made to cover the mid-calibre range.
 While they had acquired examples of German 5 cm FlaK41, the Soviets also acquired a prototype gun dubbed ''5,5 cm Gerät 58''; this became the basis of a later prototype gun with a 57 mm calibre in 1946, after years of field tests, the gun was certified for service in early 1950s as the AZP S-60. While this gun had a radar and a rangefinder for target tracking, in the era of supersonic jets, the S-60 was soon phrased out in favor for SAMs; although later experiences from Vietnam showed that it was still effective against low-flying targets and should be kept as a supplement for the underperforming SAMs of the era, where ground clutters severely affected its tracking capabilities.
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 {{USSR anti-aircraft guns}}
 [[Category:Anti-aircraft guns]]

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	* {{Specs-Link\|ussr_zsu_57_2}}		* {{Specs-Link\|ussr_zsu_57_2}}
		+	* {{Specs-Link\|il_zsu_57_2}} (Israel)
		+	* ▄{{Specs-Link\|sw_zsu_57_2}} (Sweden)

	== General info ==		== General info ==

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 |}
 === Comparison with analogues ===
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 While they had acquired examples of German 5 cm FlaK41, the Soviets also acquired a prototype gun dubbed ''5,5 cm Gerät 58''; this became the basis of a later prototype gun with a 57 mm calibre in 1946, after years of field tests, the gun was certified for service in early 1950s as the AZP S-60. While this gun had a radar and a rangefinder for target tracking, in the era of supersonic jets, the S-60 was soon phrased out in favor for SAMs; although later experiences from Vietnam showed that it was still effective against low-flying targets and should be kept as a supplement for the underperforming SAMs of the era, where ground clutters severely affected its tracking capabilities.
-Aside from the base model S-60, there were the navalised versions AK-725 and ZIF-72, as well as the S-68 on ZSU-57-2. Although most of the surviving S-60s are seen in different warfare overseas, sometimes even mounted onto a dump-truck as improvised platform, the Russian Ground Forces built a new 57 mm unmanned weapon system based on S-60, known as AU-220M and was first seen as on an Armata Universal Platform in late 2010s.
+Aside from the base model S-60, there were the navalised versions AK-725 and ZIF-72, as well as the S-68 on ZSU-57-2. Although most of the surviving S-60s are seen in different warfare overseas, sometimes even mounted onto a dump-truck as improvised platform, the Russian Ground Forces built a new 57 mm unmanned weapon system based on S-60, known as AU-220M and was first seen as on an Armata Universal Platform in the late 2010s.
 == Media ==

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 === Available ammunition ===
 <!-- ''Describe the shells that are available for the weapon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).'' -->
-* '''Default:''' HE* · APCBC - 50% of this belt are useless against tanks or planes. However, against other SPAA this belt can reliably take out crew, armament, ammo and engine. Having one belt in reserve does not hurt.
+{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
-* '''BR-281:''' APCBC - For use against ground vehicles. With around 150 mm of penetration at point blank, this belt can go through side armour and take out lightly armoured targets. Actual MBTs can typically resist it from the front. It does not contain much explosive filler per round, but since the WZ305 has two cannons (each with a clip of 4 rounds) multiple penetrations have a high chance of knocking out the target.
+! colspan="7" | Penetration statistics
-* '''OR-281U:''' HE* - For use against planes. One or two hits usually get the job done. However, heavy armoured attackers and bombers may require several hits.
+|-
-* '''BR-281U:''' APCBC · HE* - For use against ground vehicles. A solid shot projectile, it currently has the same penetration as the ordinary BR-281 APCBC and there is thus no real reason to use it.
+! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Belt
+! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
-{| class="wikitable sortable"
+|-
-! colspan="7" |Penetration statistics
+! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
 |-
-! rowspan="2" |Belt
+|}
-! colspan="6" |Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
+{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 |-
-!10 m
+! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
-!100 m
+! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
-!500 m
+! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
-!1,000 m
+! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
-!1,500 m
+! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
-!2,000 m
+! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
 |-
-|Default
+! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
 |-
-|BR-281
+| BR-281 || APCBC || 1,000 || 2.8 || 1.2 || 9 || 20.02 || 48° || 63° || 71°
 |-
-|OR-281U
+| OR-281U || HE* || 1,000 || 2.8 || 0 || 0.1 || 235.62 || 79° || 80° || 81°
 |-
 |}
 === Comparison with analogues ===

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 == Description ==
-The S-68 (C-68 in Russian), based on AZP S-60 57 mm anti-aircraft gun, is the twin-barrel variant of the latter; serving as the main weapon of ZSU-57-2.
+<!-- ''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.'' -->
+The 57 mm S-68 (C-68 in Russian) is a Soviet anti-aircraft cannon. It is the twin-barrel variant of 57 mm AZP S-60 anti-aircraft gun.
 === Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
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 == General info ==
-=== Available shells ===
+<!-- ''Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.'' -->
 * '''Default:''' HE* · APCBC - 50% of this belt are useless against tanks or planes. However, against other SPAA this belt can reliably take out crew, armament, ammo and engine. Having one belt in reserve does not hurt.
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 === Comparison with analogues ===
-[[WA318 (57 mm)|WA318]]''-'' it's Chinese cousin, while sharing most of same traits, S-68 has a better traverse speed; but WA318 has access to HE-VT shell which vastly boost its anti-aircraft capabilities.
+<!-- ''Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns that have firepower equal to this weapon.'' -->
 == Usage in battles ==
-At its tier, twin-barrel 57 mm gun stands out among vehicles at similar tiers. Thanks to its high rate of fire and penetration, for lightly-armored vehicles or those who showed their sides, this gun is the nightmare for them as the APHE/APCBC shells on it works fantastically against armored targets, 8 shots at very short time can certainly knock down most of the enemies it might ever face (aside from [[Maus]] or the rare [[E-100]]).
+<!-- ''Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against notable opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.'' -->
-While S-68 doesn't do really well in its intended purpose: anti-aircraft operations (it was intended to be guided by radar and rangefinders), thanks to the sheer caliber and enough explosive filler, a solid hit on the target certainly means severe or lethal damage against them; at higher tier where helicopters are present, when aimed properly, it can score a surprise kill even at 3-4 km away.
+While the S-68 doesn't do really well in its intended purpose: anti-aircraft operations (it was intended to be guided by radar and rangefinders), thanks to the sheer calibre and enough explosive filler, a solid hit on the target certainly means severe or lethal damage against them; at higher tier where helicopters are present, when aimed properly, it can score a surprise kill even at 3-4 km away.
 === Pros and cons ===
 '''Pros:'''
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 * Sufficient rate of fire and ammo pool
 * High explosive content
-* Straight ballistic
+* Straight ballistics
 '''Cons:'''
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 * Lightly-protected
 * Huge profile
 == History ==
-During the Great Patriotic War (Eastern Front of WWII), Soviets soon realized that their current anti-aircraft gun inventory was insufficient to handle targets at higher altitudes (both 25 mm and 37 mm wouldn't travel very far before being ineffective; larger caliber guns requires long reload time); it was deemed that a new anti-aircraft gun must be made to cover the mid-caliber range.
+<!-- ''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>.'' -->
-While they have acquired examples of Germans' 5 cm FlaK41, Soviets also acquired a prototype gun dubbed ''5,5 cm Gerät 58''; these became the basis of a later prototype gun with a 57 mm caliber in 1946, after years of field tests, the gun was certificated for service in early 1950s as the AZP S-60. While these guns has radar and rangefinder for target tracking, in the era of supersonic jets, S-60 were soon phrased out in favor for SAMs; although later experiences from Vietnam showed that it was still effective against low flyer and should be kept as a supplement for the underperforming SAMs at the era, where ground clutters severely affect its tracking capabilities.
+While they had acquired examples of German 5 cm FlaK41, the Soviets also acquired a prototype gun dubbed ''5,5 cm Gerät 58''; this became the basis of a later prototype gun with a 57 mm calibre in 1946, after years of field tests, the gun was certified for service in early 1950s as the AZP S-60. While this gun had a radar and a rangefinder for target tracking, in the era of supersonic jets, the S-60 was soon phrased out in favor for SAMs; although later experiences from Vietnam showed that it was still effective against low-flying targets and should be kept as a supplement for the underperforming SAMs of the era, where ground clutters severely affected its tracking capabilities.
-Aside from the base model S-60, there were navalized version AK-725 and ZIF-72, as well as S-68 on ZSU-57-2; although most of the S-60s survived today are seen in different warfare overseas, sometimes even mounted onto a dump-truck as improvise platform, the Russian Ground Forces built a new 57 mm unmanned weapon system based on S-60, known as AU-220M and was first seen as on an Armata Universal Platform in late 2010s.
+Aside from the base model S-60, there were the navalised versions AK-725 and ZIF-72, as well as the S-68 on ZSU-57-2. Although most of the surviving S-60s are seen in different warfare overseas, sometimes even mounted onto a dump-truck as improvised platform, the Russian Ground Forces built a new 57 mm unmanned weapon system based on S-60, known as AU-220M and was first seen as on an Armata Universal Platform in late 2010s.
 == Media ==
-''An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''
+''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
 == See also ==
 ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 * ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;''
 * ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''
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 == External links ==
 ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
 * ''other literature.''