RN Comandante Margottini - Revision history

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the first part of the description, cover the history of the ship's creation and military application. In the second part, tell the reader about using this ship in the game. Add a screenshot: if a beginner player has a hard time remembering vehicles by name, a picture will help them identify the ship in question.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|1=name}}''' is one of the Comandanti Medaglie d'Oro class of destroyers, the most modern Italian World War II destroyer design incorporating lessons learned by the Regia Marina during the war. She and the rest of her class were laid down but never completed, thus the Margottini is present in the game in her planned configuration. She features heavier main guns than previous Italian destroyers, much improved anti-aircraft armament, and even an air-search radar.
+The '''RN Comandante Margottini''' is one of the Comandanti Medaglie d'Oro class of destroyers, the most modern Italian World War II destroyer design incorporating lessons learned by the Regia Marina during the war. She and the rest of her class were laid down but never completed, thus the Margottini is present in the game in her planned configuration. She features heavier main guns than previous Italian destroyers, much improved anti-aircraft armament, and even an air-search radar.
 Introduced in [[Update "Raining Fire"]], '''{{Specs|1=name}}''' is a destroyer with good speed and manoeuvrability perfect to dodge enemy salvos and torpedoes. For armament, the Margottini has a standard armament of four main cannons and one of the best AA armaments to use against enemy boats and planes. As additional armament, she can carry six torpedoes divided between 2 torpedo launchers. However, she has a poor survivability due to the relatively unprotected ammoracks, so avoid being hit in these areas by enemy ships.

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the first part of the description, cover the history of the ship's creation and military application. In the second part, tell the reader about using this ship in the game. Add a screenshot: if a beginner player has a hard time remembering vehicles by name, a picture will help them identify the ship in question.'' -->
-The Comandante Margottini is one of the Comandanti Medaglie d'Oro class of destroyers, the most modern Italian World War II destroyer design incorporating lessons learned by the Regia Marina during the war. She and the rest of her class were laid down but never completed, thus the Margottini is present in the game in her planned configuration. She features heavier main guns than previous Italian destroyers, much improved anti-aircraft armament, and even an air-search radar.
+The '''{{Specs|1=name}}''' is one of the Comandanti Medaglie d'Oro class of destroyers, the most modern Italian World War II destroyer design incorporating lessons learned by the Regia Marina during the war. She and the rest of her class were laid down but never completed, thus the Margottini is present in the game in her planned configuration. She features heavier main guns than previous Italian destroyers, much improved anti-aircraft armament, and even an air-search radar.
-Introduced in [[Update "Raining Fire"]], RN Comandate Margottini is a destroyer with good speed and manoeuvrability perfect to dodge enemy salvos and torpedoes. For armament, the Margottini has a standard armament of four main cannons and one of the best AA armaments to use against enemy boats and planes. As additional armament, she can carry six torpedoes divided between 2 torpedo launchers. However, she has a poor survivability due to the relatively unprotected ammoracks, so avoid being hit in these areas by enemy ships.
+Introduced in [[Update "Raining Fire"]], '''{{Specs|1=name}}''' is a destroyer with good speed and manoeuvrability perfect to dodge enemy salvos and torpedoes. For armament, the Margottini has a standard armament of four main cannons and one of the best AA armaments to use against enemy boats and planes. As additional armament, she can carry six torpedoes divided between 2 torpedo launchers. However, she has a poor survivability due to the relatively unprotected ammoracks, so avoid being hit in these areas by enemy ships.
 == General info ==

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 {{Specs-Fleet-Primary}}
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-{{main|135 mm/45 O.T.O. Mod. 1938 (135 mm)}}
+{{main|135 mm/45 O.T.O. Mod. 1937 (135 mm)}}
-The Margottini is armed with four 135/45 OTO Mod. 1938 main guns distributed in four single mounts, two in the bow and two in the stern. They fire heavier projectiles than the previous standard Italian destroyer weapon, the 120/50, but at a lower muzzle velocity. They also have a fairly low rate of fire of only 7.5 rounds/minute maximum with an aced crew. They do have greater elevation than previous Italian destroyer gun mounts, thus allowing some limited utility against aircraft.
+The Margottini is armed with four 135/45 OTO Mod. 1937 main guns distributed in four single mounts, two in the bow and two in the stern. They fire heavier projectiles than the previous standard Italian destroyer weapon, the 120/50, but at a lower muzzle velocity. They also have a fairly low rate of fire of only 7.5 rounds/minute maximum with an aced crew. They do have greater elevation than previous Italian destroyer gun mounts, thus allowing some limited utility against aircraft.
 The main guns can fire HE, HE-TF, and APHE. The HE has 1.8 kg of TNT, while the APHE has 1.4 kg of TNT. The HE-TF shell has the same amount of explosive as the HE but will detonate at the rangefinder's set range, thus allowing it to burst on air targets. In terms of ballistics, the HE, APHE, and HE-TF have a muzzle velocity of 825 m/s, which is slower than the shells of the 120/50 on the [[RN Dardo|Dardo]] and [[RN Corazziere|Corazziere]].
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 It is important to note that the stern-most turret (Y turret) has very poor traverse arcs because of the superstructure blocking it, requiring a large amount of broadside to be given in order to unmask the gun. The X turret ahead of it, in contrast, has full 360-degree traverse, and it can be brought into action very quickly.
-{{:135 mm/45 O.T.O. Mod. 1938 (135 mm)/Ammunition|135 mm HE Dirompente, 135 mm APHEBC Perforante, 135 mm HE-TF Contro-aerea}}
+{{:135 mm/45 O.T.O. Mod. 1937 (135 mm)/Ammunition|135 mm HE Dirompente, 135 mm APHEBC Perforante, 135 mm HE-TF Contro-aerea}}
 === Secondary armament ===

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 == Description ==
-<!-- ''In the first part of the description, cover the history of the ship's creation and military application. In the second part, tell the reader about using this ship in the game. Add a screenshot: if a beginner player has a hard time remembering vehicles by name, a picture will help them identify the ship in question.'' -->The Comandante Margottini is one of the Comandanti Medaglie d'Oro class of destroyers, the most modern Italian World War II destroyer design incorporating lessons learned by the Regia Marina during the war. She and the rest of her class were laid down but never completed, thus the Margottini is present in the game in her planned configuration. She features heavier main guns than previous Italian destroyers, much improved anti-aircraft armament, and even an air-search radar.
+<!-- ''In the first part of the description, cover the history of the ship's creation and military application. In the second part, tell the reader about using this ship in the game. Add a screenshot: if a beginner player has a hard time remembering vehicles by name, a picture will help them identify the ship in question.'' -->
-The RN Comandate Margottini was introduced in the [[Update "Raining Fire"|"Raining Fire" update]] , is a destroyer with good speed and manovrability perfect to dodge enemy salvos and torpedoes, for the armament the Margottini have a standard armament of four principal cannons and has one of best AA armament to use versus enemy boats and planes, as additional armament can carry six torpedoes divided in 2 Torpedo launchers and at has a pour survivability caused from his ammorack so attention when hitted by enemy ships.
+Introduced in [[Update "Raining Fire"]], RN Comandate Margottini is a destroyer with good speed and manoeuvrability perfect to dodge enemy salvos and torpedoes. For armament, the Margottini has a standard armament of four main cannons and one of the best AA armaments to use against enemy boats and planes. As additional armament, she can carry six torpedoes divided between 2 torpedo launchers. However, she has a poor survivability due to the relatively unprotected ammoracks, so avoid being hit in these areas by enemy ships.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
-<!-- ''In the first part of the description, cover the history of the ship's creation and military application. In the second part, tell the reader about using this ship in the game. Add a screenshot: if a beginner player has a hard time remembering vehicles by name, a picture will help them identify the ship in question.'' -->
+<!-- ''In the first part of the description, cover the history of the ship's creation and military application. In the second part, tell the reader about using this ship in the game. Add a screenshot: if a beginner player has a hard time remembering vehicles by name, a picture will help them identify the ship in question.'' -->The Comandante Margottini is one of the Comandanti Medaglie d'Oro class of destroyers, the most modern Italian World War II destroyer design incorporating lessons learned by the Regia Marina during the war. She and the rest of her class were laid down but never completed, thus the Margottini is present in the game in her planned configuration. She features heavier main guns than previous Italian destroyers, much improved anti-aircraft armament, and even an air-search radar.
-The Comandante Margottini is one of the Comandanti Medaglie d'Oro class of destroyers, the most modern Italian World War II destroyer design incorporating lessons learned by the Regia Marina during the war. She and the rest of her class were laid down but never completed, thus the Margottini is present in the game in her planned configuration. She features heavier main guns than previous Italian destroyers, much improved anti-aircraft armament, and even an air-search radar.
+The RN Comandate Margottini was introduced in the [[Update "Raining Fire"|"Raining Fire" update]] , is a destroyer with good speed and manovrability perfect to dodge enemy salvos and torpedoes, for the armament the Margottini have a standard armament of four principal cannons and has one of best AA armament to use versus enemy boats and planes, as additional armament can carry six torpedoes divided in 2 Torpedo launchers and at has a pour survivability caused from his ammorack so attention when hitted by enemy ships.
 == General info ==

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 The Margottini has a respectable top speed of 65 km/h, driven by two turbines with a total power of 60,000 HP. The rudder shift time is just 5 seconds, which is very useful in combat situations to change trajectory quickly and effectively. The wide hull and shallow draft allow Margottini to remain very stable even during sharp turns. The Margottini can travel at 36 km/h in reverse.
-{{NavalMobility}}
+{{NavalMobility
 === Modifications and economy ===

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 | 135 mm HE Dirompente || HE || 825 || 32.42 || 0 || 0.1 || 1.8 || 79° || 80° || 81°
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-| 135 mm APHEBC Perforante || APHE || 825 || 32.73 || 0.01 || 6 || 1.47 || 48° || 63° || 71°
+| 135 mm APHEBC Perforante || APHEBC || 825 || 32.73 || 0.01 || 6 || 1.47 || 48° || 63° || 71°
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 | 135 mm HE-TF Contro-aerea || HE-TF || 825 || 32.42 || 0 || 0.1 || 1.8 || 79° || 80° || 81°

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 It is important to note that the stern-most turret (Y turret) has very poor traverse arcs because of the superstructure blocking it, requiring a large amount of broadside to be given in order to unmask the gun. The X turret ahead of it, in contrast, has full 360-degree traverse, and it can be brought into action very quickly.
-{| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" style="text-align:center"
+{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
-! colspan="8" |Penetration statistics
+! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
 |-
-! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" |Ammunition
+! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
-! rowspan="2" |Type of
+! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
-warhead
+! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
 |-
-!1,000 m!!2,500 m!!5,000 m!!7,500 m!!10,000 m!!15,000 m
+! 1,000 m !! 2,500 m !! 5,000 m !! 7,500 m !! 10,000 m !! 15,000 m
 |-
-|135 mm HE Dirompente||HE||23||23||23||23||23||23
+| 135 mm HE Dirompente || HE || 23 || 23 || 23 || 23 || 23 || 23
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-|135 mm APHEBC Perforante||APHEBC||171||139||100||73||56||45
+| 135 mm APHEBC Perforante || APHEBC || 171 || 139 || 100 || 73 || 56 || 45
 |-
 |}
-{| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" style="text-align:center"
+{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
-! colspan="10" |Shell details
+! colspan="10" | Shell details
 |-
-! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" |Ammunition
+! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
 |-
-!0%!!50%!!100%
+| 135 mm HE Dirompente || HE || 825 || 32.42 || 0 || 0.1 || 1.8 || 79° || 80° || 81°
 |-
-|135 mm HE Dirompente||HE||825||32.42||N/A||0.1||1800||79°||80°||81°
+| 135 mm APHEBC Perforante || APHE || 825 || 32.73 || 0.01 || 6 || 1.47 || 48° || 63° || 71°
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-|135 mm APHEBC Perforante||APHE||825||32.73||0.01 s||6||1470||48°||63°||71°
+| 135 mm HE-TF Contro-aerea || HE-TF || 825 || 32.42 || 0 || 0.1 || 1.8 || 79° || 80° || 81°
 |-
 |}
 === Secondary armament ===
 {{Specs-Fleet-Secondary}}

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 It is important to note that the stern-most turret (Y turret) has very poor traverse arcs because of the superstructure blocking it, requiring a large amount of broadside to be given in order to unmask the gun. The X turret ahead of it, in contrast, has full 360-degree traverse, and it can be brought into action very quickly.
 === Secondary armament ===
 {{Specs-Fleet-Secondary}}
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 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
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 * ''reference to the series of the ship;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
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 * ''other literature.'' -->
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 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
 * ''other literature.''