RN Andrea Doria - Revision history

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 The '''RN Andrea Doria''' was the lead ship of the Andrea Doria-class battleships, also referred to as the Duilio-class in Italian sources. The class consisted of the two ships Andrea Doria and [[RN Duilio|Duilio]], also referred to as Caio Duilio. The two ships were improved Conte di Cavour-class battleships and just like them, they shared the same main armament of thirteen 305 mm/46 Model 1909 guns. Secondary armament consisted of sixteen Ansaldo 152 mm/45 Model 1911 cannons and nineteen 76 mm QF-14 pdr Mk.I cannons together with three 450 mm torpedo tubes. Andrea Doria was named after 16th century Genoese admiral. She was launched on 30th March 1913 and completed on 13th March 1916. She saw little action during World War I. During the 1920s, she helped suppress rebels in Fiume and took part in the 1923 Corfu incident. Between 1937 and 1940, Andrea Doria underwent a refit just like her sister Duilio, changing her armament to two triple and two twin OTO 320 mm Model 1934 guns, four triple 135 mm/45 OTO 1937 cannons, ten 90 mm/53 Ansaldo anti-aircraft guns, six twin and three single 37 mm/54 Breda autocannons, and eight twin 20 mm Breda Model 35 autocannons, together with her torpedo tubes being removed. After the refit, Andrea Doria took part in the First Battle of Sirte during which she damaged the British K-class destroyer HMS Kipling with near misses. After the armistice was signed, on 9th September 1943, she sailed to internment at Malta where she remained until 8th June 1944, after which she returned to Taranto on 14th March 1945. After the war, she served as the flagship of the Italian Navy together with her sister Duilio. She was paid off on 16th September 1956 after serving for more than 40 years and broken up for scrap in La Spezia.
-The '''{{Specs|1=name}}''' was introduced in [[Update "Drone Age"]] as the second dreadnought of the Regia Marina after RN Dante Alighieri. She is in her pre-refit configuration, featuring her original thirteen 305 mm gun configuration without the enhanced anti-air suite. Her armour is also quite weak compared to other battleships she faces. Unlike other ships, she does not possess HE shells in her arsenal. Her SAP shells have issues overpenetrating destroyers and some light cruisers as they require 17 mm of armour to fuze. The same fuze sensitivity is required for her APCBC shell, which also carries only 5.66 kg TNT as opposed to heavier payload of her contemporaries.
+The '''{{Specs|1=name}}''' was introduced in [[Update "Drone Age"]] as the second dreadnought of the Regia Marina after RN Dante Alighieri. She is in her pre-refit configuration, featuring her original thirteen 305 mm gun configuration without the enhanced anti-air suite. Her armour is also quite weak compared to other battleships she faces. Unlike other ships, she does not possess HE shells in her arsenal. Her SAP shells have issues overpenetrating destroyers and some light cruisers as they require 17 mm of armour to fuse. The same fuse sensitivity is required for her APCBC shell, which also carries only 5.66 kg TNT as opposed to heavier payload of her contemporaries.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the first part of the description, cover the history of the ship's creation and military application. In the second part, tell the reader about using this ship in the game. Add a screenshot: if a beginner player has a hard time remembering vehicles by name, a picture will help them identify the ship in question.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was the lead ship of the Andrea Doria-class battleships, also referred to as the Duilio-class in Italian sources. The class consisted of the two ships Andrea Doria and [[RN Duilio|Duilio]], also referred to as Caio Duilio. The two ships were improved Conte di Cavour-class battleships and just like them, they shared the same main armament of thirteen 305 mm/46 Model 1909 guns. Secondary armament consisted of sixteen Ansaldo 152 mm/45 Model 1911 cannons and nineteen 76 mm QF-14 pdr Mk.I cannons together with three 450 mm torpedo tubes. Andrea Doria was named after 16th century Genoese admiral. She was launched on 30th March 1913 and completed on 13th March 1916. She saw little action during World War I. During the 1920s, she helped suppress rebels in Fiume and took part in the 1923 Corfu incident. Between 1937 and 1940, Andrea Doria underwent a refit just like her sister Duilio, changing her armament to two triple and two twin OTO 320 mm Model 1934 guns, four triple 135 mm/45 OTO 1937 cannons, ten 90 mm/53 Ansaldo anti-aircraft guns, six twin and three single 37 mm/54 Breda autocannons, and eight twin 20 mm Breda Model 35 autocannons, together with her torpedo tubes being removed. After the refit, Andrea Doria took part in the First Battle of Sirte during which she damaged the British K-class destroyer HMS Kipling with near misses. After the armistice was signed, on 9th September 1943, she sailed to internment at Malta where she remained until 8th June 1944, after which she returned to Taranto on 14th March 1945. After the war, she served as the flagship of the Italian Navy together with her sister Duilio. She was paid off on 16th September 1956 after serving for more than 40 years and broken up for scrap in La Spezia.
+The '''RN Andrea Doria''' was the lead ship of the Andrea Doria-class battleships, also referred to as the Duilio-class in Italian sources. The class consisted of the two ships Andrea Doria and [[RN Duilio|Duilio]], also referred to as Caio Duilio. The two ships were improved Conte di Cavour-class battleships and just like them, they shared the same main armament of thirteen 305 mm/46 Model 1909 guns. Secondary armament consisted of sixteen Ansaldo 152 mm/45 Model 1911 cannons and nineteen 76 mm QF-14 pdr Mk.I cannons together with three 450 mm torpedo tubes. Andrea Doria was named after 16th century Genoese admiral. She was launched on 30th March 1913 and completed on 13th March 1916. She saw little action during World War I. During the 1920s, she helped suppress rebels in Fiume and took part in the 1923 Corfu incident. Between 1937 and 1940, Andrea Doria underwent a refit just like her sister Duilio, changing her armament to two triple and two twin OTO 320 mm Model 1934 guns, four triple 135 mm/45 OTO 1937 cannons, ten 90 mm/53 Ansaldo anti-aircraft guns, six twin and three single 37 mm/54 Breda autocannons, and eight twin 20 mm Breda Model 35 autocannons, together with her torpedo tubes being removed. After the refit, Andrea Doria took part in the First Battle of Sirte during which she damaged the British K-class destroyer HMS Kipling with near misses. After the armistice was signed, on 9th September 1943, she sailed to internment at Malta where she remained until 8th June 1944, after which she returned to Taranto on 14th March 1945. After the war, she served as the flagship of the Italian Navy together with her sister Duilio. She was paid off on 16th September 1956 after serving for more than 40 years and broken up for scrap in La Spezia.
-Andrea Doria was introduced in [[Update "Drone Age"]] as the second dreadnought of the Regia Marina after RN Dante Alighieri. She is in her pre-refit configuration, featuring her original thirteen 305 mm gun configuration without the enhanced anti-air suite. Her armour is also quite weak compared to other battleships she faces. Unlike other ships, she does not possess HE shells in her arsenal. Her SAP shells have issues overpenetrating destroyers and some light cruisers as they require 17 mm of armour to fuze. The same fuze sensitivity is required for her APCBC shell, which also carries only 5.66 kg TNT as opposed to heavier payload of her contemporaries.
+The '''{{Specs|1=name}}''' was introduced in [[Update "Drone Age"]] as the second dreadnought of the Regia Marina after RN Dante Alighieri. She is in her pre-refit configuration, featuring her original thirteen 305 mm gun configuration without the enhanced anti-air suite. Her armour is also quite weak compared to other battleships she faces. Unlike other ships, she does not possess HE shells in her arsenal. Her SAP shells have issues overpenetrating destroyers and some light cruisers as they require 17 mm of armour to fuze. The same fuze sensitivity is required for her APCBC shell, which also carries only 5.66 kg TNT as opposed to heavier payload of her contemporaries.
 == General info ==
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 ;[[Duilio (Family)|Related development]]
 * [[RN Duilio]]

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the first part of the description, cover the history of the ship's creation and military application. In the second part, tell the reader about using this ship in the game. Add a screenshot: if a beginner player has a hard time remembering vehicles by name, a picture will help them identify the ship in question.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a lead ship of Andrea Doria-class battleship, also referred to as Duilio-class in Italian sources. The class consisted of two ships Andrea Doria and [[Duilio (Family)|Duilio]], referred to also as Caio Duilio. The two ships were improved Conte di Cavour-class battleships and just like them, they shared the same main armament of thirteen 305 mm/46 Model 1909 guns. Secondary armament consisted of sixteen Ansaldo 152 mm/45 Model 1911 cannons and nineteen 76 mm QF-14 pdr Mk.I cannons together with three 450 mm torpedo tubes. Andrea Doria was named after 16th century Genoese admiral. She was launched on 30th March 1913 and completed on 13th March 1916. She saw little action during World War I. During the 1920s she helped supress rebels in Fiume and took part in Corfu incident. Between 1937 and 1940, Andrea Doria underwent refit just like her sister Duilio, that changed her armament to two triple and two twin OTO 320 mm Model 1934 guns, four triple 135 mm/45 OTO 1937 cannons, ten 90 mm/53 Ansaldo anti-aircraft guns, six twin and three single 37 mm/54 Breda autocannons and eight twin 20 mm Breda Model 35 autocannons together with her torpedo tubes being removed. After the refit, Andrea Doria took part during First Battle of Sirte during which she damaged British K-class destroyer HMS Kipling with near misses. After the armistice signed, on September 9th 1943, she sailed to Malta into interment where she remained until 8th June 1944 after which she returned to Taranto on March 14th 1945. After the war, she served as flagship of Italian navy together with her sister Duilio. She was paid off on 16th September 1956  after serving for more than 40 years and broken up for scrap in La Spezia.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was the lead ship of the Andrea Doria-class battleships, also referred to as the Duilio-class in Italian sources. The class consisted of the two ships Andrea Doria and [[RN Duilio|Duilio]], also referred to as Caio Duilio. The two ships were improved Conte di Cavour-class battleships and just like them, they shared the same main armament of thirteen 305 mm/46 Model 1909 guns. Secondary armament consisted of sixteen Ansaldo 152 mm/45 Model 1911 cannons and nineteen 76 mm QF-14 pdr Mk.I cannons together with three 450 mm torpedo tubes. Andrea Doria was named after 16th century Genoese admiral. She was launched on 30th March 1913 and completed on 13th March 1916. She saw little action during World War I. During the 1920s, she helped suppress rebels in Fiume and took part in the 1923 Corfu incident. Between 1937 and 1940, Andrea Doria underwent a refit just like her sister Duilio, changing her armament to two triple and two twin OTO 320 mm Model 1934 guns, four triple 135 mm/45 OTO 1937 cannons, ten 90 mm/53 Ansaldo anti-aircraft guns, six twin and three single 37 mm/54 Breda autocannons, and eight twin 20 mm Breda Model 35 autocannons, together with her torpedo tubes being removed. After the refit, Andrea Doria took part in the First Battle of Sirte during which she damaged the British K-class destroyer HMS Kipling with near misses. After the armistice was signed, on 9th September 1943, she sailed to internment at Malta where she remained until 8th June 1944, after which she returned to Taranto on 14th March 1945. After the war, she served as the flagship of the Italian Navy together with her sister Duilio. She was paid off on 16th September 1956 after serving for more than 40 years and broken up for scrap in La Spezia.
-Andrea Doria was introduced in [[Update "Drone Age"]] as second dreadnought of Regia Marina after RN Dante Alighieri. The Andrea Doria in War Thunder is in her pre-refit configuration featuring her original thirteen 305 mm gun configuration without the enhanced anti-air suite. Her armour is also quite weak compared to other battleships she´s facing. Unlike other ships, she does not posses HE shells in her arsenal. Her SAP shells have issues overpenetrating destroyers and some light cruisers as they require 17 mm of armour to fuze. Same fuze sensitivity is required for her APCBC shell, which also carries only 5.66 kg TNT as opposed to heavier payload of her contemporaries.
+Andrea Doria was introduced in [[Update "Drone Age"]] as the second dreadnought of the Regia Marina after RN Dante Alighieri. She is in her pre-refit configuration, featuring her original thirteen 305 mm gun configuration without the enhanced anti-air suite. Her armour is also quite weak compared to other battleships she faces. Unlike other ships, she does not possess HE shells in her arsenal. Her SAP shells have issues overpenetrating destroyers and some light cruisers as they require 17 mm of armour to fuze. The same fuze sensitivity is required for her APCBC shell, which also carries only 5.66 kg TNT as opposed to heavier payload of her contemporaries.
 == General info ==
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 == History ==
 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ship in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the ship and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Ship-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the ship's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
-=== Devblog History ===
+=== [[wt:en/news/7842-development-andrea-doria-the-dreadnought-of-the-mediterranean-en|Devblog]] ===
 While Italy was ramping up its construction of dreadnought battleships in the early 1910s, the decision was made to construct another two battleships in order to meet its naval rearmament goals. As ships of the Conte di Cavour class were already under construction at the time, shipbuilders decided to base the new class off the design of the former, while only applying some minor changes. This design was completed within six months and construction was ordered in September 1911.

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the first part of the description, cover the history of the ship's creation and military application. In the second part, tell the reader about using this ship in the game. Add a screenshot: if a beginner player has a hard time remembering vehicles by name, a picture will help them identify the ship in question.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian battleship {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Drone Age"]].
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a lead ship of Andrea Doria-class battleship, also referred to as Duilio-class in Italian sources. The class consisted of two ships Andrea Doria and [[Duilio (Family)|Duilio]], referred to also as Caio Duilio. The two ships were improved Conte di Cavour-class battleships and just like them, they shared the same main armament of thirteen 305 mm/46 Model 1909 guns. Secondary armament consisted of sixteen Ansaldo 152 mm/45 Model 1911 cannons and nineteen 76 mm QF-14 pdr Mk.I cannons together with three 450 mm torpedo tubes. Andrea Doria was named after 16th century Genoese admiral. She was launched on 30th March 1913 and completed on 13th March 1916. She saw little action during World War I. During the 1920s she helped supress rebels in Fiume and took part in Corfu incident. Between 1937 and 1940, Andrea Doria underwent refit just like her sister Duilio, that changed her armament to two triple and two twin OTO 320 mm Model 1934 guns, four triple 135 mm/45 OTO 1937 cannons, ten 90 mm/53 Ansaldo anti-aircraft guns, six twin and three single 37 mm/54 Breda autocannons and eight twin 20 mm Breda Model 35 autocannons together with her torpedo tubes being removed. After the refit, Andrea Doria took part during First Battle of Sirte during which she damaged British K-class destroyer HMS Kipling with near misses. After the armistice signed, on September 9th 1943, she sailed to Malta into interment where she remained until 8th June 1944 after which she returned to Taranto on March 14th 1945. After the war, she served as flagship of Italian navy together with her sister Duilio. She was paid off on 16th September 1956  after serving for more than 40 years and broken up for scrap in La Spezia.
 == General info ==

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 * ''reference to the series of the ship;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
-* ''reference to the series of the ship;''
+;[[Duilio (Family)|Related development]]
-* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
+* [[RN Duilio]]
 == External links ==

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 * Effective secondary armament for light targets
-* Effective Main armament for most of naval targets
+* Effective Main armament for most naval targets
-* The 76mm present on top of Main guns have a rapid reload
+* The 76mm present on top of Main guns has a rapid reload
-* Average Speed and manouvrability
+* Average Speed and manoeuvrability
 '''Cons:'''
 * Very weak AAs
-* Very easily to destroy by other BB and Battlecruisers
+* Very easily destroyed by other BB and Battlecruisers
 == History ==

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 === Pros and cons ===
-<!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' -->
+<!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' -->'''Pros:'''
-'''Pros:'''
+* Effective secondary armament for light targets
+*
 '''Cons:'''
+*
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=it_battleship_andrea_doria Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

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 {{main|305 mm/46 Vickers model 1909 (305 mm)}}
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+''Provide information about the characteristics of the primary armament. Evaluate their efficacy in battle based on their reload speed, ballistics and the capacity of their shells. Add a link to the main article about the weapon: <code><nowiki>{{main|Weapon name (calibre)}}</nowiki></code>. Broadly describe the ammunition available for the primary armament, and provide recommendations on how to use it and which ammunition to choose.''
-! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
-|-
+{{:305 mm/46 Vickers model 1909 (305 mm)/Ammunition|305 mm SAP, 305 mm APCBC}}
 === Secondary armament ===
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 ''Some ships are fitted with weapons of various calibres. Secondary armaments are defined as weapons chosen with the control <code>Select secondary weapon</code>. Evaluate the secondary armaments and give advice on how to use them. Describe the ammunition available for the secondary armament. Provide recommendations on how to use them and which ammunition to choose. Remember that any anti-air armament, even heavy calibre weapons, belong in the next section. If there is no secondary armament, remove this section.''
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+{{:152 mm/45 Schneider model 1911 (152 mm)/Ammunition|152 mm HE Dirompente, 152 mm APHE Perforante, 152 mm APHE Perforante da 152/45-50}}
 === Anti-aircraft armament ===

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 {{Specs-Fleet-Armour}}
 [[File:RN Andrea Doria Armor.jpg|thumb|Overview of the protection scheme]]
-''Talk about the vehicle's armour. Note the most well-defended and most vulnerable zones, e.g. the ammo magazine. Evaluate the composition of components and assemblies responsible for movement and manoeuvrability. Evaluate the survivability of the primary and secondary armaments separately. Don't forget to mention the size of the crew, which plays an important role in fleet mechanics. Save tips on preserving survivability for the "Usage in battles" section. If necessary, use a graphical template to show the most well-protected or most vulnerable points in the armour.''
+<!-- ''Talk about the vehicle's armour. Note the most well-defended and most vulnerable zones, e.g. the ammo magazine. Evaluate the composition of components and assemblies responsible for movement and manoeuvrability. Evaluate the survivability of the primary and secondary armaments separately. Don't forget to mention the size of the crew, which plays an important role in fleet mechanics. Save tips on preserving survivability for the "Usage in battles" section. If necessary, use a graphical template to show the most well-protected or most vulnerable points in the armour.'' -->
 === Mobility ===