Pr.191 - Revision history

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Description

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U38088265: /* Primary armament */

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‎Primary armament

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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet armoured gun boat {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.83 "Masters of the Sea"]].
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Soviet armoured boat developed in 1945 to replace the outdated [[Pr.1124 (Family)|Pr.1124]] armoured boats. The engineers learned from wartime experiences and the predecessor’s design to create a new boat with enhanced armor and anti-air defense, as well as slightly higher speed. The first prototype of the Pr.191 was slower than its predecessor, but it featured new armor and an updated design layout. Although only one prototype was built, the mass-production version, the [[Pr.191M]], was equipped with M-50 engines and more powerful heavy machine gun armaments.
 == General info ==
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ussr_pr_191 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

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 ** Small crew complement of 14 crew members, very low among the Soviet armoured gun boats
 * 12.7 mm guns drop off in effectiveness rapidly with range, limiting their usefulness as anti-aircraft weapons
-* Shallow draught caused the boat to be constantly rocking in sea conditions, hampering accuracy
+* Shallow draught causes the boat to constantly rock in sea conditions, hampering accuracy
 == History ==

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 ** Small crew complement of 14 crew members, very low among the Soviet armoured gun boats
 * 12.7 mm guns drop off in effectiveness rapidly with range, limiting their usefulness as anti-aircraft weapons
 == History ==

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 ==== Ammunition ====
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+{{:85 mm/54.6 ZIS-C-53 (85 mm)/Ammunition|85 mm O-365K, 85 mm BR-365}}
 === Secondary armament ===
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 === Additional armament ===

← Older revision		Revision as of 17:00, 28 October 2022
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		+	\| about = Soviet armoured gun boat '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
		+	\| usage = the other version
		+	\| link = Pr.191M
		+	}}
	{{Specs-Card		{{Specs-Card
	\|code=ussr_pr_191		\|code=ussr_pr_191

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 == Media ==
-''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
+<!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
 == See also ==

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 ! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 ! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
-! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
+! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
 |-
 ! 100 m !! 1,000 m !! 2,000 m !! 3,000 m !! 4,000 m !! 5,000 m
 |-
-| 85 mm O-365K || HE || 38 || 30 || 24 || 20 || 16 || 11
+| 85 mm O-365K || HE || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11
 |-
-| 85 mm BR-365 || APHEBC || 132 || 112 || 193 || 77 || 65 || 55
+| 85 mm BR-365 || APHEBC || 133 || 112 || 92 || 76 || 63 || 52
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 |}
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 ! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
 ! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
-! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
+! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>mass (kg)
 ! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
 ! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
-! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
+! rowspan="2" | Explosive mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
 ! colspan="3" | Ricochet
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 | 85 mm O-365K || HE || 785 || 9.54 || 0 || 1 || 741 || 79° || 80° || 81°
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-| 85 mm BR-365 || APHEBC || 792 || 9.2 || 1.2 || 15 || 164 || 48° || 63° || 71°
+| 85 mm BR-365 || APHEBC || 792 || 9.2 || 1.2 || 14 || 164 || 48° || 63° || 71°
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 |}
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 {{main|MIRAB mine}}
-This ship comes with 10 MIRAB mines. They are rather small, and should be used only against corvette and smaller sized ships, Several hits may sink a destroyer from flooding. The best use for these mines is to lay them at a capture point and hope that an enemy ship runs over the mine and gets blown up; however, it may be the best option to simply not carry them at all, as they do pose a risk of detonating when hit.
+This ship comes with 10 MIRAB mines. They are rather small, and should be used only against corvette and smaller sized ships. Several hits may sink a destroyer from flooding. The best use for these mines is to lay them at a capture point and hope that an enemy ship runs over the mine and gets blown up; however, it may be the best option to simply not carry them at all, as they do pose a risk of detonating when hit.
 == Usage in battles ==
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 The Pr. 191 can work very well in certain situations, particularly longer-range engagements. This is because of its great weapons load, namely the 85 mm cannon mounted in front of the bridge. Assuming that you have decent accuracy, you can easily sink enemy vessels with a few hits. The Pr. 191 also carries two dual 12.7 mm DShK machine gun turrets, which provide a surprisingly good measure of anti-aircraft and anti-MTB defence. Note that the anti-aircraft armament is otherwise bare, meaning that the ship is very poorly defended from aerial threats at longer ranges, where the DShKs are less effective.
-The Pr. 191 is rather lacking in survivability compared to some of its peers. The ship has a crew of 14 sailors, which isn't particularly impressive for a Soviet armoured gun boat. As well, the Pr. 191 lacks heavy armour, with 30 mm protecting the turret and just 7 mm of hull armour. This means that the ship can, and will, be shredded by any enemy cannon fire. As a result, captains should make use of island cover to maximize survivability. One additional good strategy is to stay bow-in on the enemy at longer ranges. This prevents enemies from hitting all three of the ship's sections at once, which greatly reduces the risk of being shredded.
+The Pr. 191 is rather lacking in survivability compared to some of its peers. The ship has a crew of 14 sailors, which isn't particularly impressive for a Soviet armoured gun boat. As well, the Pr. 191 lacks heavy armour, with 30 mm protecting the turret and just 7 mm of hull armour. This means that the ship can, and will, be shredded by any enemy cannon fire. As a result, captains should make use of island cover to maximise survivability. One additional good strategy is to stay bow-in on the enemy at longer ranges. This prevents enemies from hitting all three of the ship's sections at once, which greatly reduces the risk of being shredded.
-Finally, the Pr. 191 suffers from a rather mediocre manoeuvrability, with a poor turning circle and a rather disappointing top speed of 29 km/h in RB. Thus, the ship cannot be relied upon to capture zones, as it will take ages just to get to the capture point. In general, this ship should be played as a longer-range sniper, maximizing the use of its powerful armament.
+Finally, the Pr. 191 suffers from a rather mediocre manoeuvrability, with a poor turning circle and a rather disappointing top speed of 29 km/h in RB. Thus, the ship cannot be relied upon to capture zones, as it will take ages just to get to the capture point. In general, this ship should be played as a longer-range sniper, maximising the use of its powerful armament.
 === Pros and cons ===

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 <!-- ''Write about the ship's mobility. Evaluate its power and manoeuvrability, rudder rerouting speed, stopping speed at full tilt, with its maximum forward and reverse speed.'' -->
-{{NavalMobility}}In general, the Pr. 191 has pretty bad mobility. The ship has a max speed of 29 km/h spaded in RB, which is slow even for Soviet armoured gun boats. As well, the ship isn't too responsive and doesn't have a great turning circle. All in all, the ship should not rely on it's mobility due to it's poor turn and speed capabilities.
+In general, the Pr. 191 has pretty bad mobility. The ship has a max speed of 29 km/h spaded in RB, which is slow even for Soviet armoured gun boats. As well, the ship isn't too responsive and doesn't have a great turning circle. All in all, the ship should not rely on its mobility due to its poor turn and speed capabilities.
 === Modifications and economy ===
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 {{main|MIRAB mine}}
-This ship comes with 10 MIRAB mines. These mines are rather small, and should be used only against corvette and smaller sized ships Several hits may sink a destroyer from flooding. The best use for these mines is to lay them at a capture point and hope that an enemy ship runs over the mine and gets blown up; however, it may be the best option to simply not carry them at all, as they do pose a risk of detonating when hit.
+This ship comes with 10 MIRAB mines. They are rather small, and should be used only against corvette and smaller sized ships Several hits may sink a destroyer from flooding. The best use for these mines is to lay them at a capture point and hope that an enemy ship runs over the mine and gets blown up; however, it may be the best option to simply not carry them at all, as they do pose a risk of detonating when hit.
 == Usage in battles ==
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-The Pr. 191 is quite an interesting ship to play, due to its unique set of characteristics - heavy armament, good armour, and rediculously bad manoeuvrability. This ship excels at longer range combat, making full use of it's super-heavy main armament.
 '''Tactics:'''
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 The Pr. 191 can work very well in certain situations, particularly longer-range engagements. This is because of its great weapons load, namely the 85 mm cannon mounted in front of the bridge. Assuming that you have decent accuracy, you can easily sink enemy vessels with a few hits. The Pr. 191 also carries two dual 12.7 mm DShK machine gun turrets which provide a surprisingly good measure of anti-aircraft and anti-MTB defence. Note that the anti-aircraft armament is otherwise bare, meaning that the ship is very poorly defended from aerial threats at longer ranges where the DShKs are less effective.
-The Pr. 191 is rather lacking in survivability compared to some of it's peers. The ship has a crew of 14 sailors, which isn't particularly impressive for a Soviet armoured gun boat. As well, the Pr. 191 lacks heavy armour, with 30 mm protecting the turret and just 7 mm of hull armour. This means that the ship can, and will, be shredded by any enemy cannon fire. As a result, captains should make use of island cover to maximise survivability. One additional good strategy is to stay bow-in on the enemy at longer ranges. This prevents enemies from hitting all three of the ship's sections at once, which greatly reduces the risk of being shredded.
+The Pr. 191 is rather lacking in survivability compared to some of its peers. The ship has a crew of 14 sailors, which isn't particularly impressive for a Soviet armoured gun boat. As well, the Pr. 191 lacks heavy armour, with 30 mm protecting the turret and just 7 mm of hull armour. This means that the ship can, and will, be shredded by any enemy cannon fire. As a result, captains should make use of island cover to maximise survivability. One additional good strategy is to stay bow-in on the enemy at longer ranges. This prevents enemies from hitting all three of the ship's sections at once, which greatly reduces the risk of being shredded.
 Finally, the Pr. 191 suffers from a rather mediocre manoeuvrability, with a poor turning circle and a rather disappointing top speed of 29 km/h in RB. Thus, the ship cannot be relied upon to capture zones, as it will take ages just to get to the capture point. In general, this ship should be played as a longer-range sniper, maximising the use of its powerful armament.
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 * Possesses a powerful 85 mm cannon to pick off targets quickly
 * Decent secondary armament of four (2 x 2) 12.7 mm DShK machine guns in dual mounts
-* Relatively thin profile, presents a rather small target when facing enemy face-on
+* Relatively thin profile, presents a rather small target when facing an enemy head-on
 * Can carry naval mines which could be potentially deadly towards heavier enemies
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