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 After the first [[Pr.1204]] entered service, the boat's weak armaments became apparent, prompting an upgrade. Eventually, in 1970, later-built boats were equipped with a casemate-mounted [[BP "Plamya" (30 mm)|"Plamya"]] automatic grenade launcher, a [[BM-14-17|140 mm BM-14-17]] multiple rocket launcher system, and the replacement of the [[KPV (14.5 mm)|14.5 mm KPV]] heavy machine gun with the [[2M-3 (25 mm)|25 mm 2M-3]] autocannon. Even with these improvements, the Soviet Navy still felt the boat was underperforming, and nearly all were transferred to the Soviet Border Troops. Today, a small number of these boats remain in service with the Russian Navy and the Ukrainian State Border Guard.
-Introduced during [[Update 1.79 "Project X"]] when the Soviet fleet was implemented into the game, the Pr.1204M performs similarly to its predecessor, the Pr.191 armoured boat, but with improved speed, making it easier to navigate the map. Its main cannon, the [[D-56TS (76 mm)|76 mm D-56TS]], has both HE and APHE shells, capable of damaging light and heavily armoured targets. The 25mm 2M-3 autocannon can destroy light and medium armoured targets, as well as serve in an anti-aircraft role. It also has the 140 mm BM-14-17 MRLS, which is effective at destroying enemy destroyers. Additionally, it carries the same [[YAM-43 mine|YAM-43]] small coastal mine to block enemy paths to strategic points. One unique armament is the 30 mm "Plamya" grenade launcher, though it is not very effective beyond 1 km due to its limited range. Even if it hits the target, it does minimal damage due to its small explosive mass.
+Introduced during [[Update 1.79 "Project X"]] when the Soviet fleet was implemented into the game, the Pr.1204 late performs similarly to its predecessor, the Pr.191 armoured boat, but with improved speed, making it easier to navigate the map. Its main cannon, the [[D-56TS (76 mm)|76 mm D-56TS]], has both HE and APHE shells, capable of damaging light and heavily armoured targets. The 25mm 2M-3 autocannon can destroy light and medium armoured targets, as well as serve in an anti-aircraft role. It also has the 140 mm BM-14-17 MRLS, which is effective at destroying enemy destroyers. Additionally, it carries the same [[YAM-43 mine|YAM-43]] small coastal mine to block enemy paths to strategic points. One unique armament is the 30 mm "Plamya" grenade launcher, though it is not very effective beyond 1 km due to its limited range. Even if it hits the target, it does minimal damage due to its small explosive mass.
 == General info ==

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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a further development of the Pr.1204. After the first Pr.1204 entered service, the boat's weak armaments became apparent, prompting an upgrade. Eventually, in 1970, later-built boats were equipped with a casemate-mounted [[BP "Plamya" (30 mm)|"Plamya"]] automatic grenade launcher, a [[BM-14-17|140mm BM-14-17]] multiple rocket launcher system, and the replacement of the [[KPV (14.5 mm)|14.5mm KPV]] heavy machine gun with the [[2M-3 (25 mm)|25mm 2M-3]] autocannon. Even with these improvements, the Soviet Navy still felt the boat was underperforming, and nearly all were transferred to the Soviet Border Troops. Today, a small number of these boats remain in service with the Russian Navy and the Ukrainian State Border Guard.
+After the first [[Pr.1204]] entered service, the boat's weak armaments became apparent, prompting an upgrade. Eventually, in 1970, later-built boats were equipped with a casemate-mounted [[BP "Plamya" (30 mm)|"Plamya"]] automatic grenade launcher, a [[BM-14-17|140 mm BM-14-17]] multiple rocket launcher system, and the replacement of the [[KPV (14.5 mm)|14.5 mm KPV]] heavy machine gun with the [[2M-3 (25 mm)|25 mm 2M-3]] autocannon. Even with these improvements, the Soviet Navy still felt the boat was underperforming, and nearly all were transferred to the Soviet Border Troops. Today, a small number of these boats remain in service with the Russian Navy and the Ukrainian State Border Guard.
-In the game, this boat was introduced during [[Update 1.79 "Project X"]] when the Soviet fleet was implemented into the game. The boat performs similarly to its predecessor, the Pr.191 armored boat, but with improved speed, making it easier to navigate the map. Its main cannon, the [[D-56TS (76 mm)|76mm D-56TS]], has both HE and APHE shells, capable of damaging light and heavily armoured targets. The 25mm 2M-3 autocannon can destroy light and medium armoured targets, as well as serve in an anti-aircraft role. It also has the 140mm BM-14-17 MRLS, which is effective at destroying enemy destroyers. Additionally, it carries the same [[YAM-43 mine|YAM-43]] small coastal mine to block enemy paths to strategic points. One unique armament is the 30mm "Plamya" grenade launcher, though it is not very effective beyond 1 km due to its limited range. Even if it hits the target, it does minimal damage due to its small explosive mass.
+Introduced during [[Update 1.79 "Project X"]] when the Soviet fleet was implemented into the game, the Pr.1204M performs similarly to its predecessor, the Pr.191 armoured boat, but with improved speed, making it easier to navigate the map. Its main cannon, the [[D-56TS (76 mm)|76 mm D-56TS]], has both HE and APHE shells, capable of damaging light and heavily armoured targets. The 25mm 2M-3 autocannon can destroy light and medium armoured targets, as well as serve in an anti-aircraft role. It also has the 140 mm BM-14-17 MRLS, which is effective at destroying enemy destroyers. Additionally, it carries the same [[YAM-43 mine|YAM-43]] small coastal mine to block enemy paths to strategic points. One unique armament is the 30 mm "Plamya" grenade launcher, though it is not very effective beyond 1 km due to its limited range. Even if it hits the target, it does minimal damage due to its small explosive mass.
 == General info ==

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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet armoured gun boat {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during [[Update 1.79 "Project X"]] when the Soviet fleet was implemented into the game. It bears strong resemblance to the [[Pr.1124 (1940)]], and inherits its main gun and its tactics.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a further development of the Pr.1204. After the first Pr.1204 entered service, the boat's weak armaments became apparent, prompting an upgrade. Eventually, in 1970, later-built boats were equipped with a casemate-mounted [[BP "Plamya" (30 mm)|"Plamya"]] automatic grenade launcher, a [[BM-14-17|140mm BM-14-17]] multiple rocket launcher system, and the replacement of the [[KPV (14.5 mm)|14.5mm KPV]] heavy machine gun with the [[2M-3 (25 mm)|25mm 2M-3]] autocannon. Even with these improvements, the Soviet Navy still felt the boat was underperforming, and nearly all were transferred to the Soviet Border Troops. Today, a small number of these boats remain in service with the Russian Navy and the Ukrainian State Border Guard.
 == General info ==

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 Use HE whenever possible, especially at longer ranges, because the APHE needs a solid hit to damage anything.
-{{:D-56TS (76 mm)/Ammunition|OF-350M naval, 53-BR-354 naval}}
+{{:76 mm/52 D-56TS (76 mm)/Ammunition|OF-350M, BR-354}}
 === Secondary armament ===

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	Use HE whenever possible, especially at longer ranges, because the APHE needs a solid hit to damage anything.		Use HE whenever possible, especially at longer ranges, because the APHE needs a solid hit to damage anything.
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		+	{{:D-56TS (76 mm)/Ammunition\|OF-350M naval, 53-BR-354 naval}}

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	The dual 25 mm turret tears aircraft apart in a few hits, and it can help against very fast PT boats. A small group of these boats together with a destroyer have a decent combined AA.		The dual 25 mm turret tears aircraft apart in a few hits, and it can help against very fast PT boats. A small group of these boats together with a destroyer have a decent combined AA.
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		+	* '''Universal:''' {{Annotation\|AP-T\|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation\|FI-T\|Fragmentation incendiary tracer}}
		+	* '''25 mm HE magazines:''' {{Annotation\|FI-T\|Fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation\|FI-T\|Fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation\|FI-T\|Fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation\|AP-T\|Armour-piercing tracer}}
		+	* '''25 mm AP magazines:''' {{Annotation\|AP-T\|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation\|AP-T\|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation\|AP-T\|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation\|FI-T\|Fragmentation incendiary tracer}}
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		+	{{:2M-3 (25 mm)/Ammunition\|FI-T, AP-T}}

	=== Anti-aircraft armament ===		=== Anti-aircraft armament ===

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-The Pr.1204 (or "Shmel") class of river boats were developed in the mid 1960s as a successor to the USSR's ageing fleet of WWII era river boats. 118 Shmel class river boats were built between 1967 and 1974. The boats were designed specifically to operate in shallow waters, such as rivers or littoral waters. The Shmel class was designed to support operations in rivers or shallow water conditions such as denying waterway passages, protecting harbours supporting troop movements, as well as providing fire support from ship to shore scenarios. As of 2017, several are still in service with the Russian Navy, with at least 4 assigned to the Caspian fleet.<ref>https://www.militaryfactory.com/ships/detail.asp?ship_id=shmel-class-artillery-gunboat-soviet-union</ref>
+The Pr.1204 (or "Shmel") class of river boats were developed in the mid 1960s as a successor to the USSR's ageing fleet of WWII era river boats. 118 Shmel class river boats were built between 1967 and 1974. The boats were designed specifically to operate in shallow waters, such as rivers or littoral waters. The Shmel class was designed to support operations in rivers or shallow water conditions such as denying waterway passages, protecting harbours supporting troop movements, as well as providing fire support for ship to shore scenarios. As of 2017, several are still in service with the Russian Navy, with at least 4 assigned to the Caspian fleet.<ref>https://www.militaryfactory.com/ships/detail.asp?ship_id=shmel-class-artillery-gunboat-soviet-union</ref>
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-The turret is the most heavily armoured section of the ship with 15 mm of RHA, meaning that it cannot be knocked out by HE shells under 100 mm in calibre. In addition, the bridge and Automatic Grenade Launchers are protected by thin layer of hardened armour, making them more resistant against low-calibre HE. However, this armour is insufficient to stop large-calibre autocannon fire or armour-piercing machine gun rounds.
+The turret is the most heavily armoured section of the ship, with 15 mm of RHA, meaning that it cannot be knocked out by HE shells under 100 mm in calibre. In addition, the bridge and Automatic Grenade Launchers are protected by a thin layer of hardened armour, making them more resistant against low-calibre HE. However, this armour is insufficient to stop large-calibre autocannon fire or armour-piercing machine gun rounds.
 In addition, there is an armoured compartment protecting the engine. This gives some resistance against engine knockouts, which will help the stock grind (before FPE).
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 {{main|D-56TS (76 mm)}}
-The primary armament is roughly the same as the Pr. 1124, and offers no new shell types. It is conveniently mounted on the bow of the boat, with a blind spot directly behind the boat. Being moderately armoured, it is rarely knocked out. HE shells are sufficient against most boats, but it is sensible to carry some of the APHE as well especially to face some Russian armoured boats, where your 11 mm of penetration with HE rounds won't be enough.
+The primary armament is roughly the same as the Pr. 1124, and offers no new shell types. It is conveniently mounted on the bow of the boat, with a blind spot directly behind the boat. Being moderately armoured, it is rarely knocked out. HE shells are sufficient against most boats, but it is sensible to carry some APHE as well, especially to face some Russian armoured boats, where your 11 mm of penetration with HE rounds won't be enough.
 Use HE whenever possible, especially at longer ranges, because the APHE needs a solid hit to damage anything.
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 {{main|BP "Plamya" (30 mm)}}
-The "anti-air" armament of 4 x 30 mm grenade launchers is largely ineffective at ranges of over 1 km. It is useful, however, in close quarters fighting (though not recommended), or for fending off patrol boats that get too close, something that is very challenging with only the main gun. This is a major improvement over the Pr. 1124, which had to use its 12.7 mm machine guns for this, leaving it vulnerable from the air.
+The "anti-air" armament of 4 x 30 mm grenade launchers is largely ineffective at ranges of over 1 km. It is useful, however, in close quarters fighting (though not recommended), or for fending off patrol boats that get too close, something that is very challenging with only the main gun. This is a major improvement over the Pr. 1124, which had to use its 12.7 mm machine guns for this, leaving it vulnerable to the air.
 Note that the grenade launchers are classified as AA, but the true AA is your 25 mm gun, which you can use against pretty much anything.
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 Like prior Soviet river boats, there is an option to mount a Katyusha rocket launcher on the back. This can be effective against large or static targets, making up for the lack of torpedoes.
-Note: this artillery rocket launcher has a larger calibre than others in the tech tree. This will allow you to fire up to 17 rockets 3 km away, very effective against destroyers.
+Note: this artillery rocket launcher has a larger calibre than others in the tech tree. This allows you to fire up to 17 rockets 3 km away, very effective against destroyers.
 You also have the option to carry a few mines. These mines are very small, and were designed to be used in rivers. Using them against destroyers has very little effect, even several of them. These should be used against other PT boats, but are not really worth the trouble.
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 * Effective AA turret
 * Powerful main gun
-* Rocket launcher highly effective on a hit
+* Rocket launcher, highly effective on a hit
 * Moderate armour protects well against small arms fire
 * Good turn rate to avoid torpedoes
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 * 30 mm grenade launcher has short range
-* Only one AA turret easily overwhelmed
+* Only one AA turret, easily overwhelmed
 * Only one main gun, unlike Pr. 1124
 * Rocket launcher is very difficult to hit with (similar to [[MO-4]])
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-The Pr.1204 (or "Shmel") class of river boats were developed in the mid 1960's as a successor to the USSR's aging fleet of WWII era river boats. 118 Shmel class river boats were built between 1967 and 1974. The boats were designed specifically to operate in shallow waters, such as rivers or littoral waters. The Shmel class was designed to support operations in rivers or shallow water conditions such as denying waterway passages, protecting harbors supporting troop movements, as well as providing fire support form ship to shore scenarios. As of 2017, several are still in service with the Russian Navy, with at least 4 assigned to the Caspian fleet.<ref>https://www.militaryfactory.com/ships/detail.asp?ship_id=shmel-class-artillery-gunboat-soviet-union</ref>
+The Pr.1204 (or "Shmel") class of river boats were developed in the mid 1960s as a successor to the USSR's ageing fleet of WWII era river boats. 118 Shmel class river boats were built between 1967 and 1974. The boats were designed specifically to operate in shallow waters, such as rivers or littoral waters. The Shmel class was designed to support operations in rivers or shallow water conditions such as denying waterway passages, protecting harbours supporting troop movements, as well as providing fire support from ship to shore scenarios. As of 2017, several are still in service with the Russian Navy, with at least 4 assigned to the Caspian fleet.<ref>https://www.militaryfactory.com/ships/detail.asp?ship_id=shmel-class-artillery-gunboat-soviet-union</ref>
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 The "anti-air" armament of 4 x 30 mm grenade launchers is largely ineffective at ranges of over 1 km. It is useful, however, in close quarters fighting (though not recommended), or for fending off patrol boats that get too close, something that is very challenging with only the main gun. This is a major improvement over the Pr. 1124, which had to use its 12.7 mm machine guns for this, leaving it vulnerable from the air.
-Note that the grenade launchers are classified as AA, but the true AA is your 25mm gun, which you can use against pretty much anything.
+Note that the grenade launchers are classified as AA, but the true AA is your 25 mm gun, which you can use against pretty much anything.
 === Additional armament ===
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 {{main|BM-14-17|YAM-43 mine}}
-Like prior Soviet river boats, there is an option to mount a ''Katyusha'' rocket launcher on the back. This can be effective against large or static targets, making up for the lack of torpedoes.
+Like prior Soviet river boats, there is an option to mount a Katyusha rocket launcher on the back. This can be effective against large or static targets, making up for the lack of torpedoes.
 Note: this artillery rocket launcher has a larger calibre than others in the tech tree. This will allow you to fire up to 17 rockets 3 km away, very effective against destroyers.
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 == Usage in battles ==
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-The Pr. 1204 late is very similar in playstyle to the [[Pr.1124 (1940)]], which you will have played before this boat. Remaining at long range is still important due to your high repair cost and thin armour, however more ships have guns capable of engaging at range at the higher BR. You have better defence against fast and evasive enemies and air power thanks to your 25 mm AA gun and the 30 mm grenade launchers, but these can be easily overwhelmed by large numbers of enemies. You are also still relatively flammable, and going into close-quarters battle is not recommended.
+The Pr. 1204 late is very similar in playstyle to the [[Pr.1124 (1940)]], which you will have played before this boat. Remaining at long range is still important due to your thin armour, however more ships have guns capable of engaging at range at the higher BR. You have better defence against fast and evasive enemies and air power thanks to your 25 mm AA gun and the 30 mm grenade launchers, but these can be easily overwhelmed by large numbers of enemies. You are also still relatively flammable, and going into close-quarters battle is not recommended.
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 == Media ==
-''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
+<!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
 == See also ==
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 * ''reference to the series of the ship;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
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-* [https://www.militaryfactory.com/ships/detail.asp?ship_id=shmel-class-artillery-gunboat-soviet-union [Military Factory<nowiki>]</nowiki> Shmel (class) / Project 1204 Armored Artillery Gunboat / Patrol Boat]
+* [https://www.militaryfactory.com/ships/detail.asp?ship_id=shmel-class-artillery-gunboat-soviet-union <nowiki>[Military Factory]</nowiki> Shmel (class) / Project 1204 Armored Artillery Gunboat / Patrol Boat]
 === References ===

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