Panzer IV/70(A) - Revision history

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 '''Cons:'''
-* Lacks a turret which limits its combat potential and makes it vulnerable to flankers like [[M24 (Family)|M24s]]
+* Lacks a turret which limits its combat potential and makes it vulnerable to flankers like [[M18 Hellcat (Family)|M18s]]
 * Closely packed crew meaning a penetration from any angle will likely to destroy the tank
 * Poor overall armor inadequate against almost all guns at and below its BR

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 '''Cons:'''
-* Lacks a turret which limits its combat potential and makes it vulnerable to flankers like [[M18 Hellcat (Family)|M18s]]
+* Lacks a turret which limits its combat potential and makes it vulnerable to flankers like [[M24 (Family)|M24s]]
 * Closely packed crew meaning a penetration from any angle will likely to destroy the tank
 * Poor overall armor inadequate against almost all guns at and below its BR

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 ===Arcade battles===
-In Arcade battles, with the shot indicator showing the player where shots will land, the high-velocity L/70 can accurately hit targets at long ranges, and targets on the move as the shells arrive quickly at the target.
+In Arcade battles, with the shot indicator showing the player where shots will land, the high-velocity L/70 can accurately hit targets at long ranges, and targets on the move as the shells arrive quickly at the target. The penetration indicator, which changes colour based on the chance of successful penetration, is a problem for the IV/70 (A). It highlights the weak areas of the tank to enemy players, making the weak spots obvious.
 Arcade tends to be faster-paced than Realistic and Simulator, so the lack of a turret may be a large detriment as being flanked is quite common in this mode.
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 This way the player can use the bushes to hide the Pz IV/70. If any opponent appears in the sight, the player can kill it easily with the great penetration, velocity and damage of the main cannon. If the enemy notices the player, either go back in cover until they are distracted, or utilise the sturdy frontal armour and be a "heavy tank". It can bounce quite some shells, given that the enemy's guns aren't strong enough.
-As the match progresses, the player can use the Pz IV/70 as a medium tank since it has good top speed and traverse. Go cap some points and help the teammates to push. With its low profile, the Pz IV/70 can find a comfortable corner around a point and ambush any point-cappers. Now the situational awareness comes into place, as this vehicle is turretless, meaning it cannot respond quickly to close-quarter sudden encounters. Also note that the side armour is extremely thin, so even if the player thinks they're just angling a little bit, shells like the Soviet 85 or 122 mm will still penetrate with ease.
+As the match progresses, the player can use the Pz IV/70 as a medium tank since it has good top speed and traverse. Go cap some points and help the teammates to push. With its low profile, the Pz IV/70 can find a comfortable corner around a point and ambush any point-cappers. Now the situational awareness comes into place, as this vehicle is turretless, meaning it cannot respond quickly to close-quarter sudden encounters. Also note that the side armour is extremely thin, so even if the player thinks they're just angling a little bit, shells like the Soviet 85 or 152 mm will still penetrate with ease.
 '''Enemies worth noting:'''
-* [[IS-2]], [[ISU-122]], [[SU-152|SU]]/[[ISU-152]]: The Pz IV/70 relies on its frontal armour a lot to survive, so the biggest threats are generally the vehicles with high penetration. These machines with high calibre guns pose the biggest threat, as their APHEBC shells will slice through the Pz IV/70's frontal armour like butter, and their damage is more than enough to kill all the crew inside. Try and finish them off first before they see you. If they do, quickly go to a nearby cover and either call for help, or wait until they fire / are distracted.
+* [[ISU-122]], [[SU-152|SU-152]]/[[ISU-152]]: The Pz IV/70 relies on its frontal armour a lot to survive, so the biggest threats are generally the vehicles with high penetration. These machines with high calibre guns pose the biggest threat, as their APHEBC shells will slice through the Pz IV/70's frontal armour like butter, and their damage is more than enough to kill all the crew inside. Try and finish them off first before they see you. If they do, quickly go to a nearby cover and either call for help, or wait until they fire / are distracted.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 '''Pros:'''
-* Excellent firepower: decent rate of fire and good accuracy for the main gun. Stock shell has great penetration and damage, and can easily penetrate and one-shot most opponents like T-34-85, [[M4A2]] / A3, [[IS-1]], etc
+* Excellent firepower: decent rate of fire and good accuracy for the main gun, the stock shell has great penetration and damage, and can easily penetrate and one-shot most opponents like [[T-34-85 (D-5T)|T-34-85s]], [[M4A2 (76) W|M4A2 (76)s]], etc.
 * Decent top speed of 40 km/h with good acceleration means excellent cross country performance
-* Adequate gun depression of 5 degrees for a compact hull.
+* Adequate gun depression of 5 degrees for a compact hull
 '''Cons:'''
-* Lacks a turret which limits its combat potential and makes it vulnerable to flankers like [[M18 GMC|M18]]
+* Lacks a turret which limits its combat potential and makes it vulnerable to flankers like [[M18 Hellcat (Family)|M18s]]
-* Closely packed crew meaning a penetration from any angle will likely to destroy the tank.
+* Closely packed crew meaning a penetration from any angle will likely to destroy the tank
-* Poor overall armor inadequate against almost all guns in and below its br.
+* Poor overall armor inadequate against almost all guns at and below its BR
-* The downward side of the gun mantlet is prone to trapshots (shell ricocheting down into the hull roof) which is lethal.
+* The downward side of the gun mantlet is prone to trapshots (shell ricocheting down into the hull roof) which can be lethal
 == History ==

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 == Description ==
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-The '''Panzer IV/70(A)''' is the second variant of the [[Pz.IV (Family)|Panzer IV medium tank]]-based tank destroyer family. Hitler ordered Alkett (A), the StuG III's manufacturer, to redesign the [[Jagdpanzer IV]] superstructure to accommodate the new main armament in July 1944 so that 75 mm Panzerjägerkanone 42 L/70 tank gun could be sent to the front as soon as possible. Due to the new armament being larger than the previous one, additional vertical steel plates had to be welded onto the chassis to compensate for height differences when mounting the redesigned superstructure onto the original Panzer IV medium tank chassis. From August 1944 to March 1945, only 278 were constructed.
+The '''Panzer IV/70(A)''' ([[Abbreviations#.28DE.29 Sd.Kfz. Index|Sd.Kfz. Index:]] '''Sd.Kfz. 162/1''') is the second variant of the [[Pz.IV (Family)|Panzer IV medium tank]]-based tank destroyer family. Hitler ordered Alkett (A), the StuG III's manufacturer, to redesign the [[Jagdpanzer IV]] superstructure to accommodate the new main armament in July 1944 so that 75 mm Panzerjägerkanone 42 L/70 tank gun could be sent to the front as soon as possible. Due to the new armament being larger than the previous one, additional vertical steel plates had to be welded onto the chassis to compensate for height differences when mounting the redesigned superstructure onto the original Panzer IV medium tank chassis. From August 1944 to March 1945, only 278 were constructed.
 Introduced in [[Update 1.41]], the Panzer IV/70(A) should only be used for defensive roles. Its primary armament is among the best for this class. With its high penetration and muzzle velocity, it can easily defeat all but the most resilient tanks. However, frontal protection is highly variable when under fire. If at all possible, steer clear of conflict and let the other players take the hits so that the player can decide when and how to engage. Always maintain a safe distance from the adversary and stay out of the main areas of combat.

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''Panzer IV/70(A)''' is the second variant of the [[Pz.IV (Family)|Panzer IV medium tank]]-based tank destroyer family. Hitler ordered Alkett (A), the StuG III's manufacturer, to redesign the [[Jagdpanzer IV]] superstructure to accommodate the new main armament in July 1944 so that 75 mm Panzerjägerkanone 42 L/70 armed vehicles could be sent to the front as soon as possible. Due to the new armament being larger than the previous one, additional vertical steel plates had to be welded onto the chassis to compensate for height differences when mounting the redesigned superstructure onto the original Panzer IV medium tank chassis. From August 1944 to March 1945, only 278 were constructed.
+The '''Panzer IV/70(A)''' is the second variant of the [[Pz.IV (Family)|Panzer IV medium tank]]-based tank destroyer family. Hitler ordered Alkett (A), the StuG III's manufacturer, to redesign the [[Jagdpanzer IV]] superstructure to accommodate the new main armament in July 1944 so that 75 mm Panzerjägerkanone 42 L/70 tank gun could be sent to the front as soon as possible. Due to the new armament being larger than the previous one, additional vertical steel plates had to be welded onto the chassis to compensate for height differences when mounting the redesigned superstructure onto the original Panzer IV medium tank chassis. From August 1944 to March 1945, only 278 were constructed.
 Introduced in [[Update 1.41]], the Panzer IV/70(A) should only be used for defensive roles. Its primary armament is among the best for this class. With its high penetration and muzzle velocity, it can easily defeat all but the most resilient tanks. However, frontal protection is highly variable when under fire. If at all possible, steer clear of conflict and let the other players take the hits so that the player can decide when and how to engage. Always maintain a safe distance from the adversary and stay out of the main areas of combat.

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 * Excellent firepower: decent rate of fire and good accuracy for the main gun. Stock shell has great penetration and damage, and can easily penetrate and one-shot most opponents like T-34-85, [[M4A2]] / A3, [[IS-1]], etc
 * Decent top speed of 40 km/h with good acceleration means excellent cross country performance
-* Adequate gun depression of 7 degrees for a compact hull.
+* Adequate gun depression of 5 degrees for a compact hull.
 '''Cons:'''
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 * Lacks a turret which limits its combat potential and makes it vulnerable to flankers like [[M18 GMC|M18]]
 * Closely packed crew meaning a penetration from any angle will likely to destroy the tank.
-* Poor side armour, extremely weak against APBCs like the Soviet 85 or 122 mm cannons.
+* Poor overall armor inadequate against almost all guns in and below its br.
 * The downward side of the gun mantlet is prone to trapshots (shell ricocheting down into the hull roof) which is lethal.
 == History ==
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=germ_pz_IV_L70_A Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 == See also ==
 ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 * ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

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-{{tankMobility|abMinHp=426|rbMinHp=265|AoAweight=0.45|weight=28|rbReverseSpeed=7.5}}
+{{tankMobility|abMinHp=426|rbMinHp=265|AoAweight=0.45}}
-Forward speed is sufficient, topping out at 40 km/h (approximately 25 mph) but the reverse speed of -7.5 km/h (approximately -4 mph), while acceptable, isn't anything special. This vehicle isn't a speed demon and isn't built for lightning fast flanking manoeuvres. It's much more comfortable behind the lines, acting like an anti-tank gun with treads that responds to threats rather than spearheading assaults.
+Forward speed is sufficient, topping out at 40 km/h (approximately 25 mph) but the reverse speed of -7 km/h (approximately -4 mph), while acceptable, isn't anything special. This vehicle isn't a speed demon and isn't built for lightning fast flanking manoeuvres. It's much more comfortable behind the lines, acting like an anti-tank gun with treads that responds to threats rather than spearheading assaults.
 === Modifications and economy ===
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=germ_pz_IV_L70_A Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 == See also ==
 ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 * ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''