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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} American motor torpedo boat {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Ground Breaking"]].
-The PT-174 is one of the more distinctive member of the Elco PT boat family. Instead of focusing its firepower at a chasing enemy from the stern, the PT-174's main firepower, a powerful 100
+The PT-174 is one of the more distinctive member of the Elco PT boat family. Instead of focusing its firepower at a chasing enemy from the stern, the PT-174's main firepower, a powerful 40 mm Bofors autocannon, is placed at the bow instead. This allows the PT-174 to be played more aggressively than its counterparts. Although it does share the weak hull of the Elco family, the PT-174 has a great potential when its strengths and weaknesses are well understood, thus allowing it to tackle even the seemingly superior coastal boats at higher ranks.
 == General info ==

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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} American motor torpedo boat {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Ground Breaking"]].
-The PT-174 is one of the more distinctive member of the Elco PT boat family. Instead of focusing its firepower at a chasing enemy from the stern, the PT-174's main firepower, a powerful 40 mm Bofors autocannon, is placed at the bow instead. This allows the PT-174 to be played more aggressively than its counterparts. Although it does share the weak hull of the Elco family, the PT-174 has a great potential when its strengths and weaknesses are well understood, thus allowing it to tackle even the seemingly superior coastal boats at higher ranks.
+The PT-174 is one of the more distinctive member of the Elco PT boat family. Instead of focusing its firepower at a chasing enemy from the stern, the PT-174's main firepower, a powerful 100
 == General info ==

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 While having a frontally-mounted Bofors has many benefits, it's not without downsides. The gun lacks any shield to protect it and its gunner from any enemy fire, exposing it to any incoming shot and made it rather easy to get disabled and leaving the boat vulnerable. The PT-174 is also a rather unstable gun platform at high speed, which significantly hampers the gun handling, especially in rough sea conditions. This can be partially remedied by slowing the boat down to around 60-70 km/h.
 === Secondary armament ===
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 The PT-174 features a single 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.II autocannon at the stern as a secondary armament. While not as impressive as the Bofors at the bow, the Oerlikon offers good damage output within the 2 km range. Due to the vulnerable broadsides of the boat, however, the Oerlikon is best reserved for countering flankers and inbound aircraft.
 === Anti-aircraft armament ===

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 {{main|AN-M2 (12.7 mm)}}
-As with the other 80 ft Elco boats, the PT-174 features two pairs of 12.7 mm AN-M2 Browning machine guns in an offset basket. These guns offers reasonable supplementary firepower against both surface and air targets alike. In case the Bofors autocannon is disabled, these machine guns are a failsafe weapon to retaliate against the enemy while repairing your main gun.
+As with the other 80 ft Elco boats, the PT-174 features two pairs of 12.7 mm AN-M2 Browning machine guns in offset baskets. These guns offers reasonable supplementary firepower against both surface and air targets alike. In case the Bofors autocannon is disabled, these machine guns are a failsafe weapon to retaliate against the enemy while repairing your main gun.
 === Additional armament ===

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 {{Specs-Fleet-Armour}}
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-Being one of the numerous 80 ft Elco PT boats, the PT-174's protection is rather poor. The 12.7 mm of the Oerlikon autocannon gun shield and the 6.35 mm of armour around the helmsman being the only protection this wooden-hull boat has to offer. The boat has a crew of 12 men, up to 9 of them can be lost before the boat starts to sink. Due to the boat has only three sections with three crews each, it is particularly vulnerable against shell with high penetration at the front and any autocannons at the sides.
+Being one of the numerous 80 ft Elco PT boats, the PT-174's protection is rather poor. The 12.7 mm of the Oerlikon autocannon gun shield and the 6.35 mm of armour around the helmsman being the only protection this wooden-hull boat has to offer. The boat has a crew of 12 men, up to 9 of them can be lost before the boat starts to sink. Due to the boat having only three sections with three crews each, it is particularly vulnerable against shell with high penetration at the front and any autocannons at the sides.
 === Mobility ===
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 {{main|AN-M2 (12.7 mm)}}
-As with the other 80 ft Elco boats, the PT-174 features two pairs of 12.7 mm AN-M2 Browning machine guns in an offset baskets. These guns offers reasonable supplementary firepower against both surface and air targets alike. In case the Bofors autocannon is disabled, these machine guns are a failsafe weapon to retaliate against the enemy while repairing your main gun.
+As with the other 80 ft Elco boats, the PT-174 features two pairs of 12.7 mm AN-M2 Browning machine guns in an offset basket. These guns offers reasonable supplementary firepower against both surface and air targets alike. In case the Bofors autocannon is disabled, these machine guns are a failsafe weapon to retaliate against the enemy while repairing your main gun.
 === Additional armament ===
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 {{main|Mk.13 (569 mm)}}
-The PT-174 carries four standard-issued Mk.13 torpedoes. The torpedoes were positioned almost directly forward and thus is easy to aim. While each individual torpedoes is fairly slow with a top speed of 50 km/h and has a small warhead of 173 kg TNT equivalent. They can be useful as an ambush weapon against slower and larger ship, especially in a saturation barrage.
+The PT-174 carries four standard-issued Mk.13 torpedoes. The torpedoes were positioned almost directly forward and thus is easy to aim. While each individual torpedo is fairly slow with a top speed of 50 km/h and has a small warhead of 173 kg TNT equivalent. They can be useful as an ambush weapon against a slower and larger ship, especially in a saturation barrage.
 == Usage in battles ==
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 While it is tempting to chase the enemy across the open water, sometimes it is better to stick behind some cover and strike at the right moment. The PT-174 offers such an opportunity, as the boat's great handling characteristic allows you to travel around and precisely stop at the right spot behind some cover. Here is where the frontally-mounted Bofors comes into play, as the boat's positioning can be adjusted more easily than for the rear-mounted counterparts. You can either wait for some unwitting enemy to venture within your firing range or come out at the right moment when your allies make a push to provide a surprise fire support. Against larger or slower vessels, the four torpedoes will come in handy to bring them down.
-Due to the Bofors' range and accuracy, the PT-174 is also capable in a fire support role. At 2.5 km effective range, the Bofors outranges most of the PT boats within its BR range, and is capable of dealing significant damage against boats at higher BRs. You can either sit behind some low cover at range, within a pack of friendly boats or the line of sight of a certain choke point, then reposition when a looming threats i.e certain sub-chasers or frigates with high-calibre guns appear or an incoming artillery barrage is inbound.
+Due to the Bofors' range and accuracy, the PT-174 is also capable in a fire support role. At 2.5 km effective range, the Bofors outranges most of the PT boats within its BR range, and is capable of dealing significant damage against boats at higher BRs. You can either sit behind some low cover at range, within a pack of friendly boats or the line of sight of a certain choke point, then reposition when a looming threat i.e. certain sub-chasers or frigates with high-calibre guns appear or an incoming artillery barrage is inbound.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 '''Pros:'''
 * Features a frontally-mounted Bofors autocannon with wide coverage
 * Rapid-firing and accurate Bofors autocannon offers great damage output, especially at longer ranges (~ 2.5 km)
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 '''Cons:'''
 * Very poor survivability, especially from the sides
 * The lack of gun shield makes the Bofors autocannon quite easy to disable
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 === References ===
 * [http://www.pt103.com/PT_Boat_Manufacturers.html PT103.com's database of the Elco PT boats]

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 === References ===
-* [http://www.pt103.com/PT_Boat_Manufacturers.html|PT103.com's database of the Elco PT boats]
+* [http://www.pt103.com/PT_Boat_Manufacturers.html PT103.com's database of the Elco PT boats]
 {{ShipManufacturer Elco}}
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 == Usage in battles ==
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-The PT-174 can be best described as a glass cannon, as its powerful and easy-to-use 40 mm Bofors autocannon is balanced by its poor protection. Unlike the other Elco boats which primarily excels at hit-and-run, however, the PT-174 has more utility compared to its counterparts owning to the frontal-heavy firepower, thus allows the ship to tackle almost any enemy it faces if its capabilities were utilized to its fullest.
+The PT-174 can be best described as a glass cannon, as its powerful and easy-to-use 40 mm Bofors autocannon is balanced by its poor protection. Unlike the other Elco boats which primarily excels at hit-and-run, however, the PT-174 has more utility than its counterparts owing to the frontal-heavy firepower, thus allowing the ship to tackle almost any enemy if its capabilities are utilized to its fullest.
-Due to a rather mediocre broadsides firepower, exposing the vulnerable sides of the boat to use both the Bofors and Oerlikons are not recommended. Instead, try to minimize your side profile as much as possible and going "bow-in" while engaging. The boat can easily dispatches most boats in a 1-on-1 engagements, though it can be easily overwhelmed by a group of enemies, situation awareness is a key to know when to engage and when to retreat to avoid overextending.
+Due to a rather mediocre broadsides firepower, exposing the vulnerable sides of the boat to use both the Bofors and Oerlikons are not recommended. Instead, try to minimize your side profile as much as possible and going "bow-in" while engaging. The boat can easily dispatch most boats in 1-on-1 engagements, though it can be easily overwhelmed by a group of enemies. Situation awareness is a key to know when to engage and when to retreat to avoid overextending.
-While it is tempting to chase the enemy across the open water, sometimes it is better to stick behind some cover and strike at the right moment. The PT-174 offers such an oppotunity, as the boat's great handling characteristic allows you to travel around and precisely stop at the right spot behind some cover. Here is where the frontally-mounted Bofors comes into play, as the boat's positioning can be adjusted easier compared to the rear-mounted counterparts. You can either wait for some unwitting enemy to venture within your firing range or came out at the right moment when your allies made a push to provide a surprise fire support. Against larger or slower vessel, the four torpedoes will comes into handy to bring them down.
+While it is tempting to chase the enemy across the open water, sometimes it is better to stick behind some cover and strike at the right moment. The PT-174 offers such an opportunity, as the boat's great handling characteristic allows you to travel around and precisely stop at the right spot behind some cover. Here is where the frontally-mounted Bofors comes into play, as the boat's positioning can be adjusted more easily than for the rear-mounted counterparts. You can either wait for some unwitting enemy to venture within your firing range or come out at the right moment when your allies make a push to provide a surprise fire support. Against larger or slower vessels, the four torpedoes will come in handy to bring them down.
-Due to the Bofors's range and accuracy, the PT-174 is also a capable as a fire support. At 2.5 km effective range, the Bofors outranges most of the PT boats withing its BR range, and is capable at dealing significant damage against boats from higher BRs. You can either sit behind some low cover at range, within a pack of friendly boats or the line of sight of a certain choke point, then reposition when a looming threats i.e certain sub-chaser or frigates with high-caliber guns or an incoming attrillery barrage comes.
+Due to the Bofors' range and accuracy, the PT-174 is also capable in a fire support role. At 2.5 km effective range, the Bofors outranges most of the PT boats within its BR range, and is capable of dealing significant damage against boats at higher BRs. You can either sit behind some low cover at range, within a pack of friendly boats or the line of sight of a certain choke point, then reposition when a looming threats i.e certain sub-chasers or frigates with high-calibre guns appear or an incoming artillery barrage is inbound.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 * Features a frontally-mounted Bofors autocannon with wide coverage
 * Rapid-firing and accurate Bofors autocannon offers great damage output, especially at longer ranges (~ 2.5 km)
-* High mobility and manoverability, easy to move and reposition around
+* High mobility and manoeuvrability, easy to move and reposition around
-* Four Browning MGs and Oeklikon autocannons provides good anti-air coverage
+* Four Browning MGs and Oerlikon autocannons provides good anti-air coverage
 * Has four torpedoes for saturated barrage
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 == History ==
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-[[File:Ussatascosa.jpg|300px|thumb|right|USS Atascosa (AO-66) carrying four Elco 80 ft PT boats. The PT-174 were located at the aft starboard (centre right) of the ship.]]
+[[File:PT boats on USS Atascosa.jpg|300px|thumb|right|USS Atascosa (AO-66) carrying four Elco 80 ft PT boats. The PT-174 were located at the aft starboard (centre right) of the ship.]]
-PT-174 was the Elco 80 ft-class PT boat of the United States Navy. The boat was one of the first batch of the 93 PT-103 sub-class of the Elco PT boats, which is the first standardnized design of the Elco PT boats to be mass-produced. The PT-174 was laid down and completed in January 1943. As with the other PT-103 sub-class, it was built by the Electric Launch Company (Elco).
+The PT-174 was the Elco 80 ft-class PT boat of the United States Navy. The boat was one of the first batch of the 93 PT-103 sub-class of the Elco PT boats, which is the first standardized design of the Elco PT boats for mass-production. The PT-174 was laid down and completed in January 1943 by the Electric Launch Company (Elco)
 == Media ==
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 == External links ==
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+* ''topic on the official game forum;''
-[[http://www.pt103.com/PT_Boat_Manufacturers.html|PT103.com's database of the Elco PT boats]]
+* ''other literature.'' -->
 {{ShipManufacturer Elco}}
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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} American motor torpedo boat {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Ground Breaking"]].
 == General info ==
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 {{Specs-Fleet-Armour}}
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-Being one of the numerous 80 ft Elco PT boats, the PT-174's protection is rather poor. The 6.35 mm of armor around the helmsman being the only protection this wooden-hull boat has to offer. The boat has a crew of 12 men, up to 9 of them can be lost before the boat starts to sink. Due to the boat has only three sections with three crews each, it is particularly vulnerable against shell with high penetration at the front and any autocannons at the sides.
+Being one of the numerous 80 ft Elco PT boats, the PT-174's protection is rather poor. The 12.7 mm of the Oerlikon autocannon gun shield and the 6.35 mm of armor around the helmsman being the only protection this wooden-hull boat has to offer. The boat has a crew of 12 men, up to 9 of them can be lost before the boat starts to sink. Due to the boat has only three sections with three crews each, it is particularly vulnerable against shell with high penetration at the front and any autocannons at the sides.
 === Mobility ===
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 The PT-174 features the 40 mm Bofors L/60 Mark 3 autocannon placed at the bow of the boat. This peculiar placement is unusual compared to the other Elco boats, as they were usually placed at the stern, and this feature cannot be found until the rank V [[PT-810]]. Due to this, the PT-174 has a unique offensive capability compared to its brethren. Unlike the other Elco boats that were forced to show its broadsides to utilize their Bofors, the PT-174 is capable of going "bow-in" against the enemy, and offers easy gun handling while reducing the boat's vulnerability to enemy fire in the process.
-The Bofors utilize two shells; an AP-T round with high penetration of 58 mm at 1,000 m and 41 mm at 2,000 m, and an HEFI-T shell with a large explosive filler. Due to the boat's fragile hull, the AP-T belt is preferred due to its effectiveness at long range engagements, although an "Universal" belt with a balance mix of AP-T and HEFI-T can also be considered for engaging aircraft.
+The Bofors utilize two shells; an AP-T round with high penetration of 58 mm at 1,000 m and 41 mm at 2,000 m, and an HEFI-T shell with a large explosive filler. Due to the boat's fragile hull, the AP-T belt is preferred due to its effectiveness at long range engagements (up to 2.5 km), although an "Universal" belt with a balance mix of AP-T and HEFI-T can also be considered for engaging aircraft.
-While having a frontally-mounted Bofors has many benefits, it's not without downsides. The gun lacks any shield to protect it and its gunner from any enemy fire, exposing it to the enemy fire and made it rather easy to get disabled and leaving the boat vulnerable. The PT-174 is also a rather unstable gun platform at high speed, which significantly hampers the gun handling, especially in rough sea conditions.
+While having a frontally-mounted Bofors has many benefits, it's not without downsides. The gun lacks any shield to protect it and its gunner from any enemy fire, exposing it to any incoming shots and made it rather easy to get disabled and leaving the boat vulnerable. The PT-174 is also a rather unstable gun platform at high speed, which significantly hampers the gun handling, especially in rough sea conditions. This can be partially remedied by slowing the boat down to around 60-70 km.
 === Secondary armament ===
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 {{main|20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mk.II (20 mm)}}
-''Some ships are fitted with weapons of various calibres. Secondary armaments are defined as weapons chosen with the control <code>Select secondary weapon</code>. Evaluate the secondary armaments and give advice on how to use them. Describe the ammunition available for the secondary armament. Provide recommendations on how to use them and which ammunition to choose. Remember that any anti-air armament, even heavy calibre weapons, belong in the next section. If there is no secondary armament, remove this section.''
+The PT-174 features a single 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.II autocannon at the stern as a secondary armament. While not as impressive as the Bofors at the bow, the Oerlikon offers good damage output within the 2 km range. Due to the vulnerable boardsides of the boat, however, the Oerlikon is best reserved from countering flankers and inbound aircrafts.
 === Anti-aircraft armament ===
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 {{main|AN-M2 (12.7 mm)}}
-''An important part of the ship's armament responsible for air defence. Anti-aircraft armament is defined by the weapon chosen with the control <code>Select anti-aircraft weapons</code>. Talk about the ship's anti-air cannons and machine guns, the number of guns and their positions, their effective range, and about their overall effectiveness – including against surface targets. If there are no anti-aircraft armaments, remove this section.''
+As with the other 80 ft Elco boats, the PT-174 features two pairs of 12.7 mm AN-M2 Browning machine guns in an offset baskets. These guns offers reasonable supplementary firepower against both surface and air targets alike. As the Bofors autocannon will be frequently disabled, these machine guns is also useful as a failsafe weapon to retaliate against the enemy while repairing your main gun.
 === Additional armament ===
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 {{main|Mk.13 (569 mm)}}
-''Describe the available additional armaments of the ship: depth charges, mines, torpedoes. Talk about their positions, available ammunition and launch features such as dead zones of torpedoes. If there is no additional armament, remove this section.''
+The PT-174 carries four standard-issued Mk.13 torpedoes. The torpedoes were positioned almost directly forward and thus is easy to aim. While each individual torpedoes is fairly slow with a top speed of 50 km/h and has a small warhead of 173 kg of TNT equivalent. They can be useful as an ambush weapon against slower and larger ship, especially in a saturation barrage.
 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the technique of using this ship, the characteristics of her use in a team and tips on strategy. Abstain from writing an entire guide – don't try to provide a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought. Talk about the most dangerous opponents for this vehicle and provide recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of playing with this vehicle in various modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-''Describe the technique of using this ship, the characteristics of her use in a team and tips on strategy. Abstain from writing an entire guide – don't try to provide a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought. Talk about the most dangerous opponents for this vehicle and provide recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of playing with this vehicle in various modes (AB, RB, SB).''
+The PT-174 can be best described as a glass cannon, as its powerful and easy-to-use 40 mm Bofors autocannon is balanced by its poor protection. Unlike the other Elco boats which primarily excels at hit-and-run, however, the PT-174 has more utility compared to its counterparts owning to the frontal-heavy firepower, thus allows the ship to tackle almost any enemy it faces if its capabilities were utilized to its fullest.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 '''Pros:'''