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 == Description ==
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 In the early 1940s, France placed an order for 30 PBY-5 Catalinas soon after the British placed their first production order for the aircraft. However, the delivery was never fulfilled since France capitulated before the aircraft could be delivered. France acquired 3 PBY-5A Catalinas from the Royal Canadian Air Force to serve in the Caribbean since their islands lacked proper airfields. These PBY-5As lacked the armament of the Catalina and were used in civil roles, mainly moving passengers.
-The French PBY-5A behaves just like its American counterpart, offering a very large bomb load at the cost of speed, manoeuvrability, and survivability for its BR. It can be used with effectiveness in all gamemodes, air, ground and naval battles thanks to its versatility. Its bomb load is capable of destroying several ground targets with carpet bombing or destroying bases in air battles, meanwhile it has access to torpedoes for naval combat.
+Introduced in [[Update "La Royale"]], the French PBY-5A behaves just like its American counterpart, offering a very large bomb load at the cost of speed, manoeuvrability, and survivability for its BR. It can be used with effectiveness in all gamemodes, air, ground and naval battles thanks to its versatility. Its bomb load is capable of destroying several ground targets with carpet bombing or destroying bases in air battles, meanwhile it has access to torpedoes for naval combat.
 == General info ==
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 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
-;'''Related development'''
+;Related development
 * [[PBY-5 (Family)]]

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 == Description ==
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-In the early 1940s, France placed an order for 30 PBY-5 Catalinas soon after the British placed their first production order for the aircraft. However, the delivery was never fulfilled since France capitulated before the aircraft could be delivered. France also acquired 3 PBY-5A Catalinas from the Royal Canadian Air Force to serve in the Caribbean since their islands lacked proper airfields. These PBY-5As lacked the armament of the Catalina and were used in civil roles, mainly moving passengers.
+The ▄PBY-5A Late is a Rank I premium French bomber introduced in [[Update "La Royale"]].
-Introduced in [[Update "La Royale"]], the French PBY-5A behaves just like its American counterpart, offering a very large bomb load at the cost of speed, manoeuvrability, and survivability for its BR. It can be used with effectiveness in all gamemodes, air, ground and naval battles thanks to its versatility. Its bomb load is capable of destroying several ground targets with carpet bombing or destroying bases in air battles, meanwhile it has access to torpedoes for naval combat.
+In the early 1940s, France placed an order for 30 PBY-5 Catalinas soon after the British placed their first production order for the aircraft. However, the delivery was never fulfilled since France capitulated before the aircraft could be delivered. France acquired 3 PBY-5A Catalinas from the Royal Canadian Air Force to serve in the Caribbean since their islands lacked proper airfields. These PBY-5As lacked the armament of the Catalina and were used in civil roles, mainly moving passengers.
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 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
-;Related development
+;'''Related development'''
 * [[PBY-5 (Family)]]

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 == Description ==
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-In the early 1940s France placed an order for 30 PBY-5 Catalinas, soon after the British placed their first production order for the aircraft, the delivery was never fulfilled since France capitulated before the aircrafts could be delivered. Aside from that, France acquired 3 PBY-5A Catalinas from the Royal Canadian Air Force to serve in the Caribbean since their islands lacked proper airfields, these PBY-5As lacked the armament of the Catalina and were used in civil roles, mainly moving passengers.
+In the early 1940s, France placed an order for 30 PBY-5 Catalinas soon after the British placed their first production order for the aircraft. However, the delivery was never fulfilled since France capitulated before the aircraft could be delivered. France also acquired 3 PBY-5A Catalinas from the Royal Canadian Air Force to serve in the Caribbean since their islands lacked proper airfields. These PBY-5As lacked the armament of the Catalina and were used in civil roles, mainly moving passengers.
-It was introduced in [[Update "La Royale"]]. In War Thunder, the French PBY-5A behaves just like its American counterpart, it offers a very large bomb load at the cost of speed, manoeuvrability and survivability for its BR. It can be used with effectiveness in all gamemodes, air, ground and naval battles thanks to its versatility. Its bomb load is capable of destroying several ground targets with annihilation bombing or destroy bases in air battles, meanwhile it has access to torpedoes for naval combat.
+Introduced in [[Update "La Royale"]], the French PBY-5A behaves just like its American counterpart, offering a very large bomb load at the cost of speed, manoeuvrability, and survivability for its BR. It can be used with effectiveness in all gamemodes, air, ground and naval battles thanks to its versatility. Its bomb load is capable of destroying several ground targets with carpet bombing or destroying bases in air battles, meanwhile it has access to torpedoes for naval combat.
 == General info ==
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 Although the PBY-5A technically is a medium bomber, it is best to fly high, as flying low will make you an easy target for fighters and AA. The best tactic for fending off enemy fighters is to use the rudders to direct one of the side gunners towards the attacking plane. It is also smart to use the guns manually in this situation, as the AI is often very inaccurate and will refuse to fire beyond a certain distance. In the worst case scenarios, a dive can be used to greatly increase the plane's speed to get to attack a ground target before a pursuing enemy fighter shoots it down.
 The plane is quite unmanageable, and its wings are very weak, being able to snap just by turning just a little too tight at higher speeds in realistic battles. It's also a huge target. Although the PBY-5A Catalina is slow and clunky, it offers a heavy payload that is sure to be a game changer if used properly.
 The armament on the PBY-5 Catalina is what makes up for its clunky movement. The plane is capable of carrying a heavy payload of bombs or torpedoes and has defensive gunners on all sides. The two side gunners have .50 cal machine guns, making it more than capable of destroying enemy aircraft that stay within their range.

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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} French bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "La Royale"]].
+In the early 1940s France placed an order for 30 PBY-5 Catalinas, soon after the British placed their first production order for the aircraft, the delivery was never fulfilled since France capitulated before the aircrafts could be delivered. Aside from that, France acquired 3 PBY-5A Catalinas from the Royal Canadian Air Force to serve in the Caribbean since their islands lacked proper airfields, these PBY-5As lacked the armament of the Catalina and were used in civil roles, mainly moving passengers.
 == General info ==
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 {{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
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 * 16 x 100 lb AN-M30A1 bombs (1,600 lb total)
 * 4 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
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 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is defended by:
 * 1 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gun, 2 x beam turrets (478 rpg)
 * 2 x 7.62 mm Browning machine guns, nose turret (1,050 rpg = 2,100 total)
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 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=pby-5a_late_france Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 ;Related development
 * [[PBY-5 (Family)]]

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 == Media ==
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-''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
 == See also ==

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 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 * 16 x 100 lb AN-M30A1 bombs (1,600 lb total)
 * 4 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
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 * 2 x 2,216 lb Mk.13-6 torpedoes
 * 2 x 2,216 lb Mk.13-6 Case torpedoes
 The PBY-5A features a massive payload: a whopping 4 x Type A Mark I mines (that function on the ground like 2,000 lb bombs). The French PBY-5A features custom payloads, meaning that you can generate your own larger (or smaller) payloads for certain scenarios (e.g. in AB, loading the maximum payload of 4 x Type A Mark Is + 12 x 100 lb bombs, although whether or not they are worth the effort is up to you, as they will slow down the already slow PBY).

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 <!-- ''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.'' -->
-Much like the American, British and Soviet PBYs that came before, the PBY-5A (Late) features surprisingly good survivability, owing to the large empty spaces in the hull and armor plates behind the pilots, allowing it to soak up lots of LMG and even some weaker HMG fire. The Wing-mounted fuel tanks are a weakspot, as a number of good incendiaries in them will send you on a very painful trip to the garage or the ground in flames.
+Much like the American, British and Soviet PBYs that came before, the PBY-5A (Late) features surprisingly good survivability, owing to the large empty spaces in the hull and armour plates behind the pilots, allowing it to soak up lots of LMG and even some weaker HMG fire. The Wing-mounted fuel tanks are a weak spot, as a number of good incendiaries in them will send you on a trip to the ground in flames.
-* 9.5mm Steel plates behind pilots and in front of nose gunner
+* 9.5 mm steel plates behind pilots and in front of nose gunner
-* 6.35mm armor behind tail gunner
+* 6.35 mm armour behind tail gunner
-* 6.35mm and 4.7mm steel plates in wing pylon
+* 6.35 mm and 4.7 mm steel plates in wing pylon
 === Modifications and economy ===
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 * 2 x 2,216 lb Mk.13-6 Case torpedoes
-The PBY-5A features a massive payload: a whopping 4 x Mk 13 Mod 0 Magnetic mines (that function on the ground like 2,000 lb bombs). The French PBY-5A features custom payloads, meaning that you can generate your own larger (or smaller) payloads for certain scenarios (e.g. in AB, loading the maximum payload of 4 x Mk 13s + 12 x 100 lb bombs, although whether or not they are worth the effort is up to you, as they will slow down the already slow PBY).
+The PBY-5A features a massive payload: a whopping 4 x Type A Mark I mines (that function on the ground like 2,000 lb bombs). The French PBY-5A features custom payloads, meaning that you can generate your own larger (or smaller) payloads for certain scenarios (e.g. in AB, loading the maximum payload of 4 x Type A Mark Is + 12 x 100 lb bombs, although whether or not they are worth the effort is up to you, as they will slow down the already slow PBY).
 === Defensive armament ===
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 * 1 x 7.62 mm Browning machine gun, ventral turret (500 rpg)
-The armament in the PBY-5A (Late) is a significant step up. For starters, the nose gun has been switched out for a twin .30 cal turret, making the frontal arc much more well defended. The biggest difference, however, is that the two beam turret .50 cals are now provided with late-war turret belts, which means access to the infamous M20 API-T rounds. Use of the Universal belts provides an API/I/API/API-T combination, making the turrets even more capable of shredding the biplanes and early monoplanes found at 1.7. Do remember to use manual control when enemies get up close, as you can bag a surprising number of air kills this way, even allowing you to act as an ad-hoc bomber hunter by flying alongside enemy bombers and using the .50 cals to spray them.
+The armament in the PBY-5A (Late) is a significant step up. For starters, the nose gun has been switched out for a twin .30 cal turret, making the frontal arc much more well-defended. The biggest difference, however, is that the two beam turret .50 cals are now provided with late-war turret belts, which means access to the infamous M20 API-T rounds. Use of the Universal belts provides an API/I/API/API-T combination, making the turrets even more capable of shredding the biplanes and early monoplanes found at 1.7. Use manual control when enemies get up close, as you can bag a surprising number of air kills this way, even allowing you to act as an ad-hoc bomber hunter by flying alongside enemy bombers and using the .50 cals to spray them.
 == Usage in battles ==
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 Although the PBY-5A technically is a medium bomber, it is best to fly high, as flying low will make you an easy target for fighters and AA. The best tactic for fending off enemy fighters is to use the rudders to direct one of the side gunners towards the attacking plane. It is also smart to use the guns manually in this situation, as the AI is often very inaccurate and will refuse to fire beyond a certain distance. In the worst case scenarios, a dive can be used to greatly increase the plane's speed to get to attack a ground target before a pursuing enemy fighter shoots it down.
-The plane is quite unmanageable, and its wings are very weak, being able to snap just by turning just a little too tight at higher speeds in a Realistic Battle. It's also a huge target. Although the PBY-5A Catalina is slow and clunky, it offers a heavy payload that is sure to be a game changer if used properly.
+The plane is quite unmanageable, and its wings are very weak, being able to snap just by turning just a little too tight at higher speeds in realistic battles. It's also a huge target. Although the PBY-5A Catalina is slow and clunky, it offers a heavy payload that is sure to be a game changer if used properly.
 The armament on the PBY-5 Catalina is what makes up for its clunky movement. The plane is capable of carrying a heavy payload of bombs or torpedoes and has defensive gunners on all sides. The two side gunners have .50 cal machine guns, making it more than capable of destroying enemy aircraft that stay within their range.

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 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can carry:
+{{main|AN-M30A1 (100 lb)|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)}}
-* 16 x 100lb bombs (800kg in weight, 392kg explosive)
+The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
-The PBY-5A features the same, massive payload that other PBYs have: a whopping 4 Mk 13 Mod 0 Magnetic mines (That function on the ground like 2000lb bombs). Unlike other PBYs, however, it is the first to feature custom payloads, meaning that you can generate your own larger (or smaller) payloads for certain scenarios (e.g. in AB, loading the maximum payload of 4 Mk 13s + 12 100lb bombs, although whether or not they are worth the effort is up to you, as they will slow down the already slow PBY).
+* 16 x 100 lb AN-M30A1 bombs (1,600 lb total)
 === Defensive armament ===
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 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is defended by:
 * 1 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gun, 2 x beam turrets (478 rpg)
 * 1 x 7.62 mm Browning machine gun, ventral turret (500 rpg)
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 == Usage in battles ==
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-Although technically a medium bomber, the PBY-5A's strategies are much like that of heavy bombers in higher tiers such as the B-17. It is best to fly high, as flying low will make you an easy target for fighters and AA. The best tactic for fending off enemy fighters is to use the rudders to direct one of the side gunners towards the attacking plane. It is also smart to use the guns manually in this situation, as the AI is often very inaccurate and will refuse to fire beyond a certain distance. In the worst case scenarios, a dive can be used to greatly increase the plane's speed to get to attack a ground target before a pursuing enemy fighter shoots it down.
+Although the PBY-5A technically is a medium bomber, it is best to fly high, as flying low will make you an easy target for fighters and AA. The best tactic for fending off enemy fighters is to use the rudders to direct one of the side gunners towards the attacking plane. It is also smart to use the guns manually in this situation, as the AI is often very inaccurate and will refuse to fire beyond a certain distance. In the worst case scenarios, a dive can be used to greatly increase the plane's speed to get to attack a ground target before a pursuing enemy fighter shoots it down.
 The plane is quite unmanageable, and its wings are very weak, being able to snap just by turning just a little too tight at higher speeds in a Realistic Battle. It's also a huge target. Although the PBY-5A Catalina is slow and clunky, it offers a heavy payload that is sure to be a game changer if used properly.
 The armament on the PBY-5 Catalina is what makes up for its clunky movement. The plane is capable of carrying a heavy payload of bombs or torpedoes and has defensive gunners on all sides. The two side gunners have .50 cal machine guns, making it more than capable of destroying enemy aircraft that stay within their range.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 '''Pros:'''
-*Good payload
+* Good payload
-*Good rear defensive armament with a high coverage angle
+* Good rear defensive armament with a high coverage angle
-*Durable
+* Durable
-*Can capture points (in Naval)
+* Can capture points in naval battles
 '''Cons:'''
-*Very bad at climbing
+* Very bad at climbing
-*Slow top speed
+* Slow top speed
 == History ==
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-The Consolidated Aircraft Corporation PBY-5A Catalina was based on the PBY-5 variant. The main difference was the addition of amphibious capability; the wing pontoons were removed and hydraulically actuated, retractable tricycle landing gear were added to the fuselage. It did retain the ability to land on and take off from water. The PBY-5A was powered by two 1,200 horsepower R-1830-92 engines, for a total of 2,200 hp. The first production batch of 124 was equipped with only one .30 cal (7.62 mm) bow machine gun, while later batches had two.
+{{main|PBY-5A_Catalina#History|l1=History of the PBY-5A Catalina}}
 == Media ==
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 ;Related development
 * [[PBY-5 (Family)]]