PB4Y-2 (France) - Revision history

U38088265: Edits

2023-08-04T09:21:55Z

Edits

U48664895: Updated description to new format and added flight performance section

2023-08-04T01:33:19Z

Updated description to new format and added flight performance section

U38088265: /* History */

2022-06-07T16:05:43Z

‎History

U4656018: /* History */ Brief history on French PB4Y

2022-06-07T15:37:10Z

‎History: Brief history on French PB4Y

U44629479: Edits

2022-01-09T22:51:13Z

Edits

U17577377: Preemptively Linking Art

2021-09-13T02:41:37Z

Preemptively Linking Art

U38088265: /* Flight performance */

2021-07-28T09:58:07Z

‎Flight performance

U38088265: /* Suspended armament */ Updated

2021-06-16T10:30:23Z

‎Suspended armament: Updated

U3312106: /* Details */

2021-02-17T10:34:42Z

‎Details

U3312106: /* External links */

2021-01-22T09:04:36Z

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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was given to France under the MDA (Mutual Defense Assistance Act) which was signed in 1949. A few years later, France would receive 22 PB4Ys and would use them in Vietnam during the first Indochina War as bombers. They served in the theater until the Battle of Dien Bien Phu which was a decisive loss for France.  Six of these PB4Ys were sent back to America while the rest were shipped to North Africa to fight in Algeria and then during the Suez Crisis. In the early 1960s, the PB4Ys were scrapped.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was given to France under the MDA (Mutual Defense Assistance Act) which was signed in 1949. A few years later, France would receive 22 PB4Ys and would use them in Vietnam during the first Indochina War as bombers. They served in the theater until the Battle of Dien Bien Phu which was a decisive loss for France. Six of these PB4Ys were sent back to America while the rest were shipped to North Africa to fight in Algeria and then during the Suez Crisis. In the early 1960s, the PB4Ys were scrapped.
-Introduced in [[Update 1.73 "Vive la France"]], the '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It is one of only two French bombers at rank IV and shares the same AB and RB battle rating as the [[Lancaster MR.7]]. It is also the highest ranking PB4Y with the Chinese and American one sitting a rank below. Although the PB4Y is a different rank, it is still the same BR as the others and is essentially the same plane. Players should expect the PB4Y to be very slow in level flight compared to other bombers but well-defended with one turret in the nose, two dorsal turrets, two beam turrets, and one turret in the tail.
+Introduced in [[Update 1.73 "Vive la France"]], the '''{{Specs|name}}''' is essentially the same as the PB4Ys in the American and Chinese trees. Players should expect the PB4Y to be very slow in level flight compared to other bombers but well-defended with one turret in the nose, two dorsal turrets, two beam turrets, and one turret in the tail.
 == General info ==
 === Flight performance ===
 {{Specs-Avia-Flight}}
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is virtually the same as the other PB4Ys in-game. It suffers at high altitudes due to its engines being tuned for low-altitude flying, so many enemy fighters will be able to intercept you. Even at low altitudes, the PB4Y is incredibly slow and struggles to hit speeds of 400 km/h (250 mph) at level flight. Furthermore, it accelerates very slowly so it takes a long time to reach its top speed. Like many other 4-engine bombers, the PB4Y has lackluster manoeuvrability. However, the PB4Y has a structural rip speed of 599 km/h (375.4 mph)  which is much higher than the [[B-17]] and extremely similar to the [[B-24]]'s structural limit. Many other 4-engine bombers at this BR share a similar rip speed of around 600 km/h (375 mph)
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is virtually the same as the other PB4Ys in-game. It suffers at high altitudes due to its engines being tuned for low-altitude flying, so many enemy fighters will be able to intercept you. Even at low altitudes, the PB4Y is incredibly slow and struggles to hit speeds of 400 km/h (250 mph) at level flight. Furthermore, it accelerates very slowly so it takes a long time to reach its top speed. Like many other 4-engine bombers, the PB4Y has lacklustre manoeuvrability. However, the PB4Y has a structural rip speed of 599 km/h (375.4 mph)  which is much higher than the [[B-17]] and extremely similar to the [[B-24]]'s structural limit. Many other 4-engine bombers at this BR share a similar rip speed of around 600 km/h (375 mph).
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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.73 "Vive la France"]].
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was given to France under the MDA (Mutual Defense Assistance Act) which was signed in 1949. A few years later, France would receive 22 PB4Ys and would use them in Vietnam during the first Indochina War as bombers. They served in the theater until the Battle of Dien Bien Phu which was a decisive loss for France.  Six of these PB4Ys were sent back to America while the rest were shipped to North Africa to fight in Algeria and then during the Suez Crisis. In the early 1960s, the PB4Ys were scrapped.
 == General info ==
 === Flight performance ===
 {{Specs-Avia-Flight}}
 <!-- ''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.'' -->
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 {{AirManufacturer Consolidated}}
 {{France bombers}}

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 == History ==
-After the WWII and at the dawn of Cold War, in view of rearming NATO allies, the United States passed '''''Mutual Defense Assistance Act''''' where they would provide equipment to the aforementioned allies; (the Third Republic of) France was among one of those nations. 22 of PB4Y-2 were then supplied to the '''Aéronavale (French Naval Aviation)''' and was first used during the '''First Indochina War''' to suppress the North Vietnamese forces until the tide of war turned against French; 4 of these bombers were lost during this 8-year war.
+<!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
-Later in mid-1950s, 6 of these aircrafts were returned to US and the remaining ones (22 of them) were then used in colony suppression against Algeria and Tunisia, after that the 1956 Suez Crisis. As newer P-2Vs were coming to French service, these remaining aircrafts were scrapped in 1961.<ref>http://www.aviation-history.com/consolidated/pb4y.html</ref>
+Later in the mid-1950s, 6 of these aircraft were returned to the US and the 12 remaining were then used for colony suppression in Algeria and Tunisia, as well as the 1956 Suez Crisis. As the newer P2Vs came into French service, these remaining aircraft were scrapped in 1961.<ref>http://www.aviation-history.com/consolidated/pb4y.html</ref>
 == Media ==

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 == History ==
-''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''
+After the WWII and at the dawn of Cold War, in view of rearming NATO allies, the United States passed '''''Mutual Defense Assistance Act''''' where they would provide equipment to the aforementioned allies; (the Third Republic of) France was among one of those nations. 22 of PB4Y-2 were then supplied to the '''Aéronavale (French Naval Aviation)''' and was first used during the '''First Indochina War''' to suppress the North Vietnamese forces until the tide of war turned against French; 4 of these bombers were lost during this 8-year war.
 == Media ==
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 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=pb4y-2_france Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

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 {{Specs-Card
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-|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|ArtImage_{{PAGENAME}}.png}}
+|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|ArtImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
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 == Media ==
-''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
+<!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
 == See also ==
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 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
 * ''other literature.'' -->

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 ! Stock
-| 384 || 369 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 39.4 || 41.0 || 1.3 || 1.3 || rowspan="2" | 950
+| 383 || 368 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 39.4 || 41.0 || 1.3 || 1.3 || rowspan="2" | 950
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 ! Upgraded
-| ___ || ___ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
+| 426 || 404 || 36.6 || 38.0 || 6.5 || 3.5
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 {{Specs-Card
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-|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_PB4Y-2France.jpg}}
+|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
 }}
 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
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 === Flight performance ===
 {{Specs-Avia-Flight}}
-<!--''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''-->
+<!-- ''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.'' -->
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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-{{main|AN-M30A1 (100 lb)|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)|AN-M66A2 (2,000 lb)}}
+{{main|AN-M30A1 (100 lb)|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)|AN-M66A2 (2,000 lb)|Type A Mark I mine}}
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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 * 8 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (8,000 lb total)
 * 4 x 2,000 lb AN-M66A2 bombs (8,000 lb total)
 === Defensive armament ===
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 == External links ==
-<!--''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
+<!-- ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
 * ''encyclopedia page on the aircraft;''
-* ''other literature.''-->
+* ''other literature.'' -->
 * [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/365067-consolidated-pb4y-2-privateer/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]

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 ! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
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-| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || 394 || 263 || ~3 || ~1
+| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || 360 || 263 || ~4 || ~2
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 |}