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 == Description ==
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-During the early stage of the Pacific war, the United States Navy pressed the largely unmodified [[B-24D-25-CO|B-24 Liberator]] into service as the "PB4Y-1 Liberator" to fulfilling their urgent need for long range maritime patrol aircraft. Observing these development and success of the PB4Y-1, the Consolidated Aircraft Company made a proposal to the US Navy in 1943 for a purposes-built maritime version of the Liberator, to which the US Navy accepted as it deemed the dedicated naval version of the Liberator to be a significant improvement.
+During the early stages of the Pacific war, the United States Navy pressed the largely unmodified [[B-24D-25-CO|B-24 Liberator]] into service as the "PB4Y-1 Liberator" to fulfilling their urgent need for long range maritime patrol aircraft. Observing these developments and the success of the PB4Y-1, the Consolidated Aircraft Company made a proposal to the US Navy in 1943 for a purpose-built maritime version of the Liberator, to which the US Navy accepted as it deemed the dedicated naval version of the Liberator to be a significant improvement. To accomplish its duty, the '''Consolidated PB4Y-2 Privateer''' featured several drastic changes compared to the original Liberator, most noticeably its lengthened fuselage to accommodate the flight engineer position to reduce the crew's overall fatigue in long range missions, and a tall single tail fin modified from the cancelled B-24N prototype of the USAAF as opposed to the twin tails of the Liberator, intended to give better stability at low altitudes. Other notable changes including the removal of superchargers from the engine to optimize them for maritime operations, as well as several changes in the arrangements of the defensive turret positions. The Privateer would enter service in late 1944 and go on to serve in various roles, such as maritime and ASW patrol, weather tracking, reconnaissance flight, and signal tracking with the US Navy until 1954, with some unarmed Privateers retired from the US Coast Guard four years later. In total, 739 Privateers were built, with some were supplied [[PB4Y-2 (France)|to France]] [[PB4Y-2 (China)|and Taiwan]] as a part of defensive pact.
-To accomplish its duty, the '''Consolidated PB4Y-2 Privateer''' features several drastic changes compared to the original Liberator, most noticeably its lengthened fuselage to accommodate the flight engineer position to reduce the crew's overall fatigue in long range mission, and a tall single tail fin modified from the cancelled B-24N prototype of the USAAF as opposed to the twin tails of the Liberator, intended to give better stability at low altitudes. Other notable changes including the removal of superchargers from the engine to optimize them for maritime operations, as well as several changes in the arrangements of the defensive turret positions.
+Introduced in [[Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica"]], the '''{{PAGENAME}} Privateer''' is a maritime patrol/reconnaissance aircraft derived from the [[B-24D-25-CO|B-24 Liberator]]. With several changes to better fit its new roles such as the removal of superchargers and longer fuselage, the Privateer is noticeably much slower than the Liberator. High-altitude bombing is a struggle, as the engine loses output the higher it gets. As such, Privateer pilots will often be forced to descend to lower altitudes to get to the enemy bases, effectively exposing them to enemy's attention in the process. Since the plane would usually be flying at lower altitude, the Privateer comes with 14 Browning machine guns covering the upper portion of the plane as its defensive armaments. However, these turrets have a rather mediocre coverage at the rear and can be easily bypassed by enemy fighters at certain angles, especially below the plane.
-The Privateer would later entered service in late 1944 and would went on to serve in various roles, such as maritime and ASW patrol, weather tracking, reconnaissance flight, and signal tracking with the US Navy until 1954, with some unarmed Privateers retired from the US Coast Guard four years later. In total, 739 Privateers were built, with some were supplied [[PB4Y-2 (France)|to France]] [[PB4Y-2 (China)|and Taiwan]] as a part of defensive pact.
+Because of this, the only truly positive quality of the Privateer is its ridiculously heavy payload in the form of eight Type A naval mines, each with as much explosive as an average 1,000 kg bomb. Since these mines behave like a normal air-dropped bombs in-game (save for when being dropped into water), the Privateer can easily destroy several bases or level off enemy ground vehicles with ease, provided that you are not intercepted by enemy planes or shot down by anti-aircraft fire.
 == General info ==

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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American heavy bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica"]].
+During the early stage of the Pacific war, the United States Navy pressed the largely unmodified [[B-24D-25-CO|B-24 Liberator]] into service as the "PB4Y-1 Liberator" to fulfilling their urgent need for long range maritime patrol aircraft. Observing these development and success of the PB4Y-1, the Consolidated Aircraft Company made a proposal to the US Navy in 1943 for a purposes-built maritime version of the Liberator, to which the US Navy accepted as it deemed the dedicated naval version of the Liberator to be a significant improvement.
-Historically a maritime patrol/reconnaissance aircraft derived from the [[B-24D-25-CO|B-24 Liberator]], the Privateer performs the function of a heavy bomber, optimized for dumping large amounts of high explosive on enemy bases.
+To accomplish its duty, the '''Consolidated PB4Y-2 Privateer''' features several drastic changes compared to the original Liberator, most noticeably its lengthened fuselage to accommodate the flight engineer position to reduce the crew's overall fatigue in long range mission, and a tall single tail fin modified from the cancelled B-24N prototype of the USAAF as opposed to the twin tails of the Liberator, intended to give better stability at low altitudes. Other notable changes including the removal of superchargers from the engine to optimize them for maritime operations, as well as several changes in the arrangements of the defensive turret positions.
 == General info ==

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 * Mediocre stock payload
-* No survivability, extremely susceptible to any kind of damage.
+* Mediocre survivability
 * Extremely slow and sluggish, even for a heavy bomber
 * Poor engine performance at high altitude (optimized for low altitude)

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 * Large payload (8 x naval mines) allows the plane to be used for area denial in ground and naval battles
 * Great defensive coverage except from below
 * Tricycle landing gear helps the plane to land without the risk of nosing over
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 * Mediocre stock payload
 * Extremely slow and sluggish, even for a heavy bomber
 * Poor engine performance at high altitude (optimized for low altitude)
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=pb4y-2 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

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 The other approach is to fly at very low altitude. This has two advantages: it makes it extremely difficult for enemies to attack from below, and the engines are optimized for this altitude. It will also tempt enemy fighters to dive on an "easy" target, which will, in turn, make them easy targets for your own fighters. Unfortunately, flying at low altitude will make the aircraft very vulnerable to anti-aircraft guns.
-Shallow diving:
+;Shallow diving:
 Diving is probably the most risky way of trying to bomb but it is the quickest if you do it right. Start by spawning in then dive at about -10 degrees. This will make sure you will not overspeed before reaching the bombing point. However enemy interceptors with air spawn can potentially catch you in a head on, which is an extremely dangerous situation.
-Steep diving:
+;Steep diving:
 Upon spawning, dive at an angle of about -40 degrees. The PB4Y will gradually pick up speed to around 500 km/h. Once you reach 580 km/h, cut throttle to avoid over speeding. If you are close to the bomb base, turn into shallow diving or level out and prepare for the bombing. Once bombs are out, bank towards your airfield while keep diving, you should fly at no more than 100 m above the ground.
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 In general, when engaged by fighters, one should attempt to force them to attack from oblique angles from above. This will allow the largest amount of machine guns to engage the attacker. Only the rear turret can engage aircraft directly behind the Privateer; thus, one should turn the Privateer or use the rudder to "wag the tail" which will allow other gunner positions to engage tail-chasing fighters. Under no circumstances should the belly be exposed to enemy fire; it usually becomes quickly fatal for the bomber.
-'''Enemies worth noting:'''
+;Enemies worth noting:
 * [[Do 335 (Family)|Do 335]]: this interceptor posts a huge threat to the PB4Y due to its destructive firepower. An experienced Do 335 player might open fire from a far distance of 2.5 km away, at this range its MK108/MK103 shells still have adequate accuracy and damage to cripple the PB4Y, while the PB4Y's Browning M2 can barely do any damage. The PB4Y's tail is also prone to being blown off by a few HE cannon shells.
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 '''Pros:'''
-* Best payload of any American bomber (8 x naval mines) before [[B-29A-BN|B-29]]
+* Large payload (8 x naval mines) allows the plane to be used for area denial in ground and naval battles
 * Great defensive coverage except from below
 * Highly survivable, with critical modules spread out to help absorb the damage
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 '''Cons:'''
-* Near-useless stock payload
+* Mediocre stock payload
 * Extremely slow and sluggish, even for a heavy bomber
 * Poor engine performance at high altitude (optimized for low altitude)

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 === Modifications and economy ===
 {{Specs-Economy}}
+The first priority for the Privateer pilots is to unlock its best payload; the naval mines, which can be unlocked early on by researching "Mk 13 Mod 0" modification at rank II. After this, you can either choose between flight performance or survivability upgrade. The other payload options is less effective compared to the mines and can be left until spaded.
 == Armaments ==
 {{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
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 '''Pros:'''
-* Best payload of any American bomber before the B-29
+* Best payload of any American bomber (8 x naval mines) before [[B-29A-BN|B-29]]
-* Side turrets can fire down giving 360° coverage in all directions, meaning full coverage of the bomber, with no blindspots whatsoever
+** Large number of powerful mines allows the plane to be used for area denial in ground and naval battles
-* Waist turrets can swivel nearly 180° vertically and horizontally
+* Great defensive coverage except from below
-* Nose and tail turrets have excellent fields of fire
+* Highly survivable, with critical modules spread out to help absorb the damage
-* Large amount of .50 cal machine guns, the same as the B-29
+* Tricycle landing gear helps the plane to land without the risk of nosing over
 '''Cons:'''
 * Near-useless stock payload
-* No ventral turrets
+* Extremely slow and sluggish, even for a heavy bomber
 * Poor engine performance at high altitude (optimized for low altitude)
 * Gear retraction and lowering is rather slow

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-| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || 360 || 263 || ~4 || ~2
+| 599 <!-- {{Specs|destruction|body}} --> || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || 360 || 263 || ~4 || ~2
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−	When stock, the Privateer is loaded with 20 x 100 lb AN-M30A1 bombs, which are near useless at anything other than picking off light stationary targets. Fortunately, the Privateer gets its best payload option once you've researched the "Mk 13 Mod 0" modification at rank II: 8 x Type A Mark I naval mines, with 508 kg of TNT equivalent each (compared to 4 x 2,000 lb AN-M66A2 bombs). This is the most potent payload for any American bomber until the B-29 Superfortress. These will do more damage to a base than the equivalent weight in 2,000 lb bombs that the B-17 Flying Fortress or B-24 Liberator can carry. Against ground targets, the Type A naval mine will work like an ordinary bomb (will explode upon ground ~~contract~~ after the fuse timer is up). Due to quantity of bombs and explosives, the Privateer can be used to either destroy the base or destroy a column of heavy vehicles.	+	When stock, the Privateer is loaded with 20 x 100 lb AN-M30A1 bombs, which are near useless at anything other than picking off light stationary targets. Fortunately, the Privateer gets its best payload option once you've researched the "Mk 13 Mod 0" modification at rank II: 8 x Type A Mark I naval mines, with 508 kg of TNT equivalent each (compared to 4 x 2,000 lb AN-M66A2 bombs). This is the most potent payload for any American bomber until the B-29 Superfortress. These will do more damage to a base than the equivalent weight in 2,000 lb bombs that the B-17 Flying Fortress or B-24 Liberator can carry. Against ground targets, the Type A naval mine will work like an ordinary bomb (will explode upon ground contact after the fuse timer is up). Due to quantity of bombs and explosives, the Privateer can be used to either destroy the base or destroy a column of heavy vehicles.

	Against naval targets, however, the naval mines will not explode when missed but instead armed itself underwater and wait for enemy contact. This reduces the overall effectiveness against stationary naval targets (as it requires a direct hit to trigger a detonation) but provides an additional use in naval battles, as you can lay these mines on various choke points and capture zones, as well as trapping any moving enemy vessel that comes too close to it.		Against naval targets, however, the naval mines will not explode when missed but instead armed itself underwater and wait for enemy contact. This reduces the overall effectiveness against stationary naval targets (as it requires a direct hit to trigger a detonation) but provides an additional use in naval battles, as you can lay these mines on various choke points and capture zones, as well as trapping any moving enemy vessel that comes too close to it.

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−	When stock, the Privateer is loaded with 20 x 100 lb AN-M30A1 bombs, which are near useless other than picking off light stationary targets. Fortunately, the Privateer gets its best payload option once you've researched the "Mk 13 Mod 0" modification at rank II: 8 x Type A Mark I naval mines, with 508 kg of TNT equivalent each (compared to 4 x 2,000 lb AN-M66A2 bombs). This is the most potent payload for any American bomber until the B-29 Superfortress. These will do more damage to a base than the equivalent weight in 2,000 lb bombs that the B-17 Flying Fortress or B-24 Liberator can carry.	+	When stock, the Privateer is loaded with 20 x 100 lb AN-M30A1 bombs, which are near useless at anything other than picking off light stationary targets. Fortunately, the Privateer gets its best payload option once you've researched the "Mk 13 Mod 0" modification at rank II: 8 x Type A Mark I naval mines, with 508 kg of TNT equivalent each (compared to 4 x 2,000 lb AN-M66A2 bombs). This is the most potent payload for any American bomber until the B-29 Superfortress. These will do more damage to a base than the equivalent weight in 2,000 lb bombs that the B-17 Flying Fortress or B-24 Liberator can carry. Against ground targets, the Type A naval mine will work like an ordinary bomb (will explode upon ground contract after the fuse timer is up). Due to quantity of bombs and explosives, the Privateer can be used to either destroy the base or destroy a column of heavy vehicles.
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−	Against ground targets, the Type A naval mine will work like an ordinary bomb (will explode upon ground contract after the fuse timer is up). Due to quantity of bombs and explosives, the Privateer can be used to either destroy the base or destroy a column of heavy vehicles.

	Against naval targets, however, the naval mines will not explode when missed but instead armed itself underwater and wait for enemy contact. This reduces the overall effectiveness against stationary naval targets (as it requires a direct hit to trigger a detonation) but provides an additional use in naval battles, as you can lay these mines on various choke points and capture zones, as well as trapping any moving enemy vessel that comes too close to it.		Against naval targets, however, the naval mines will not explode when missed but instead armed itself underwater and wait for enemy contact. This reduces the overall effectiveness against stationary naval targets (as it requires a direct hit to trigger a detonation) but provides an additional use in naval battles, as you can lay these mines on various choke points and capture zones, as well as trapping any moving enemy vessel that comes too close to it.