P-51C-11-NT (Japan) - Revision history

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‎Pros and cons: copy paste from p51c10

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 One issue that the plane has is quite disappointing armament, sometimes it takes some time to shoot down the enemy fighters and it is even worse against bombers and attackers with higher durability, but attacking with a speed advantage and surprising the enemy should solve it.
-The other issue is unsatisfactory turn rate at low speed, engaging other fighters in dogfight should be avoided (instantaneous turn rate is actually good when the plane has lots of energy to spare), especially the [[G.55 sottoserie 0|G.55]] or Spitfiress and anything that can turn better than them, the speed advantage should be used instead to beat them.
+The other issue is unsatisfactory turn rate at low speed, engaging other fighters in dogfight should be avoided (instantaneous turn rate is actually good when the plane has lots of energy to spare), especially the Bf 109 F-4, [[G.55 sottoserie 0|G.55]] or Yaks and anything that can turn better than them, the speed advantage should be used instead to beat them.
 Because of these points, the preferable tactics for this plane should be Boom and Zoom and other manoeuvres that do not purely depend on turn rate and more on the plane's speed. Dogfighting can work to some extent and against some planes like the [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190 A]] (which does not really stand a chance against the razorback Mustang) but while doing that the player will be forced to sacrifice speed advantage and make the plane vulnerable to attacks from slower planes with far better turn rates.
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 * Outstanding Boom & Zoom capability
 * Great performance at altitude
-* Very fast at all altitudes, especially in a shallow dive - Outruns nearly everything, especially in low altitude
+* Very fast at all altitudes, especially in a shallow dive
 * Very agile at high speeds due to laminar flow wings
 * Decent cockpit visibility
-* Fantastic top speed
+* Large fuel capacity (1 hour 45 minutes maximum flight time)
-* Good sustained climb rate and acceleration
+* Fantastic top speed and acceleration
-* Excellent synergy with MEC - Very little effect on top speed (~10km/h) , never overheats, and allows to burn fuel faster
+* Very good sustained climb rate
 '''Cons:'''
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 * High stall speed and mediocre low speed manoeuvrability
 * No suspended ordnance
-* Not very durable with bad aim
+* Not very durable
-* Too large fuel capacity (30min minimum fuel)
+* Roll rate, while not terrible, is not sufficient enough to shake enemy planes off or force overshoots
 == History ==
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=p-51c-11-nt_japan Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 ;Other Japanese-captured US planes
 * [[F4U-1A (Japan)]]
 * [[B-17E (Japan)]]
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 * [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/497252-p-51-c10/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]
 {{AirManufacturer NAA}}
 {{Japan fighters}}
 {{Japan premium aircraft}}

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 One issue that the plane has is quite disappointing armament, sometimes it takes some time to shoot down the enemy fighters and it is even worse against bombers and attackers with higher durability, but attacking with a speed advantage and surprising the enemy should solve it.
-The other issue is unsatisfactory turn rate at low speed, engaging other fighters in dogfight should be avoided (instantaneous turn rate is actually good when the plane has lots of energy to spare), especially the Bf 109 F-4, [[G.55 sottoserie 0|G.55]] or Yaks and anything that can turn better than them, the speed advantage should be used instead to beat them.
+The other issue is unsatisfactory turn rate at low speed, engaging other fighters in dogfight should be avoided (instantaneous turn rate is actually good when the plane has lots of energy to spare), especially the [[G.55 sottoserie 0|G.55]] or Spitfiress and anything that can turn better than them, the speed advantage should be used instead to beat them.
 Because of these points, the preferable tactics for this plane should be Boom and Zoom and other manoeuvres that do not purely depend on turn rate and more on the plane's speed. Dogfighting can work to some extent and against some planes like the [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190 A]] (which does not really stand a chance against the razorback Mustang) but while doing that the player will be forced to sacrifice speed advantage and make the plane vulnerable to attacks from slower planes with far better turn rates.
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 '''Pros:'''
 * Outstanding Boom & Zoom capability
 * Great performance at altitude
-* Very fast at all altitudes, especially in a shallow dive
+* Very fast at all altitudes, especially in a shallow dive - Outruns nearly everything, especially in low altitude
 * Very agile at high speeds due to laminar flow wings
 * Decent cockpit visibility
-* Large fuel capacity (1 hour 45 minutes maximum flight time)
+* Fantastic top speed
-* Fantastic top speed and acceleration
+* Good sustained climb rate and acceleration
-* Very good sustained climb rate
+* Excellent synergy with MEC - Very little effect on top speed (~10km/h) , never overheats, and allows to burn fuel faster
 '''Cons:'''
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 * High stall speed and mediocre low speed manoeuvrability
 * No suspended ordnance
-* Not very durable
+* Not very durable with bad aim
-* Roll rate, while not terrible, is not sufficient enough to shake enemy planes off or force overshoots
+* Too large fuel capacity (30min minimum fuel)
 == History ==

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 One issue that the plane has is quite disappointing armament, sometimes it takes some time to shoot down the enemy fighters and it is even worse against bombers and attackers with higher durability, but attacking with a speed advantage and surprising the enemy should solve it.
-The other issue is unsatisfactory turn rate at low speed, engaging other fighters in dogfight should be avoided (instantaneous turn rate is actually good when the plane has lots of energy to spare), especially the [[G.55 sottoserie 0|G.55]] or Spitfiress and anything that can turn better than them, the speed advantage should be used instead to beat them.
+The other issue is unsatisfactory turn rate at low speed, engaging other fighters in dogfight should be avoided (instantaneous turn rate is actually good when the plane has lots of energy to spare), especially the Bf 109 F-4, [[G.55 sottoserie 0|G.55]] or Yaks and anything that can turn better than them, the speed advantage should be used instead to beat them.
 Because of these points, the preferable tactics for this plane should be Boom and Zoom and other manoeuvres that do not purely depend on turn rate and more on the plane's speed. Dogfighting can work to some extent and against some planes like the [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190 A]] (which does not really stand a chance against the razorback Mustang) but while doing that the player will be forced to sacrifice speed advantage and make the plane vulnerable to attacks from slower planes with far better turn rates.
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 '''Pros:'''
 * Outstanding Boom & Zoom capability
 * Great performance at altitude
-* Very fast at all altitudes, especially in a shallow dive - Outruns nearly everything, especially in low altitude
+* Very fast at all altitudes, especially in a shallow dive
 * Very agile at high speeds due to laminar flow wings
 * Decent cockpit visibility
-* Fantastic top speed
+* Large fuel capacity (1 hour 45 minutes maximum flight time)
-* Good sustained climb rate and acceleration
+* Fantastic top speed and acceleration
-* Excellent synergy with MEC - Very little effect on top speed (~10km/h) , never overheats, and allows to burn fuel faster
+* Very good sustained climb rate
 '''Cons:'''
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 * High stall speed and mediocre low speed manoeuvrability
 * No suspended ordnance
-* Not very durable with bad aim
+* Not very durable
-* Too large fuel capacity (30min minimum fuel)
+* Roll rate, while not terrible, is not sufficient enough to shake enemy planes off or force overshoots
 == History ==

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 One issue that the plane has is quite disappointing armament, sometimes it takes some time to shoot down the enemy fighters and it is even worse against bombers and attackers with higher durability, but attacking with a speed advantage and surprising the enemy should solve it.
-The other issue is unsatisfactory turn rate at low speed, engaging other fighters in dogfight should be avoided (instantaneous turn rate is actually good when the plane has lots of energy to spare), especially the Bf 109 F-4, [[G.55 sottoserie 0|G.55]] or Yaks and anything that can turn better than them, the speed advantage should be used instead to beat them.
+The other issue is unsatisfactory turn rate at low speed, engaging other fighters in dogfight should be avoided (instantaneous turn rate is actually good when the plane has lots of energy to spare), especially the [[G.55 sottoserie 0|G.55]] or Spitfiress and anything that can turn better than them, the speed advantage should be used instead to beat them.
 Because of these points, the preferable tactics for this plane should be Boom and Zoom and other manoeuvres that do not purely depend on turn rate and more on the plane's speed. Dogfighting can work to some extent and against some planes like the [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190 A]] (which does not really stand a chance against the razorback Mustang) but while doing that the player will be forced to sacrifice speed advantage and make the plane vulnerable to attacks from slower planes with far better turn rates.
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 * Outstanding Boom & Zoom capability
 * Great performance at altitude
-* Very fast at all altitudes, especially in a shallow dive
+* Very fast at all altitudes, especially in a shallow dive - Outruns nearly everything, especially in low altitude
 * Very agile at high speeds due to laminar flow wings
 * Decent cockpit visibility
-* Large fuel capacity (1 hour 45 minutes maximum flight time)
+* Fantastic top speed
-* Fantastic top speed and acceleration
+* Good sustained climb rate and acceleration
-* Very good sustained climb rate
+* Excellent synergy with MEC - Very little effect on top speed (~10km/h) , never overheats, and allows to burn fuel faster
 '''Cons:'''
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 * High stall speed and mediocre low speed manoeuvrability
 * No suspended ordnance
-* Not very durable
+* Not very durable with bad aim
-* Roll rate, while not terrible, is not sufficient enough to shake enemy planes off or force overshoots
+* Too large fuel capacity (30min minimum fuel)
 == History ==
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=p-51c-11-nt_japan Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 ;Other Japanese-captured US planes
 * [[F4U-1A (Japan)]]
 * [[B-17E (Japan)]]
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 {{Japan fighters}}
 {{Japan premium aircraft}}

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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''', nicknamed '''"Evalina"''' after the girlfriend of its pilot: 1st Lt. Oliver E. Strawbridge. Captured by the Japanese after an emergency landing on the 16th of January, 1945. She was left in her original scheme with Hinomarus painted over the American stars before she was sent over back to Japan. There she would be thoroughly evaluated, examined & mock battled with by the Japanese Army until just before the end of the war.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''', nicknamed '''"Evalina"''' after the girlfriend of its pilot: 1st Lt. Oliver E. Strawbridge. Captured by the Japanese after an emergency landing on the 16th of January, 1945, she was left in her original scheme with Hinomarus painted over the American stars before she was sent over back to Japan. There she would be thoroughly evaluated, examined, and used in mock battles by the Japanese Army until just before the end of the war.
-It was introduced in [[Update "Red Skies"]]. It is a carbon copy of the American [[P-51C-10]] without any bomb ordinance. Being an early P-51 model, it still gets late war .50 belts as a result of being captured in 1945, offering the very deadly full AP-I/T belts putting any target it faces ablaze. The P-51 will be a whole different plane to the average Japanese pilot and will have to adjust to its American playstyle, flying fast and hitting hard before disengaging and regaining altitude with plenty of ammo to spare leaving the trigger open without little punishment to the ammo reserve.
+Introduced in [[Update "Red Skies"]], the P-51C-11-NT is a carbon copy of the American [[P-51C-10]] without any bomb ordnance. Being an early P-51 model, it still gets late war .50 cal belts as a result of being captured in 1945, offering the very deadly full AP-I/T belts putting any target it faces ablaze. The P-51 will be a whole different plane to the average Japanese pilot and they will have to adjust to its American playstyle, flying fast and hitting hard with plenty of ammo, before disengaging and regaining altitude.
 == General info ==

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 * 4 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns, wing-mounted (280 rpg outer + 350 rpg inner = 1,260 total)
-While the Evalina only has 4 x 12.7 mm's, she does get late-war belts for ammo choice, giving her relatively more consistency and firepower over the American [[P-51C-10]] with early war belts.
+While the Evalina only has 4 x 12.7 mm MGs, she does get late-war belts for ammo choice, giving her relatively more consistency and firepower over the American [[P-51C-10]] with early war belts.
 Since the guns are mounted in the wings, gun convergence should be considered. Anywhere between 400-600 metres should work well, but note that more distant convergence settings will make close-range shooting more difficult, especially considering the low volume of fire.
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 After the war, he returned to his hometown and picked up on agriculture as all of Japan's military would be dismantled. While starting a new life as a farmer, he ended up running on food shortage and got into some shady business and poor life choices and got into debt.
-He moved to Tokyo and managed to join the JASDF (Japanese Air Self Defense Force). As an experienced pilot in both propellor- and jet-driven planes he got back into the Air Force and returned to his balanced life. He was sent abroad to study in the Royal Air Force in Britain for a year and returned to Japan eventually climbing up to the rank of Major General.
+He moved to Tokyo and managed to join the JASDF (Japanese Air Self Defense Force). As an experienced pilot in both propeller- and jet-driven planes he got back into the Air Force and returned to his balanced life. He was sent abroad to study in the Royal Air Force in Britain for a year and returned to Japan eventually climbing up to the rank of Major General.
 One day in 1965 Maj.Gen. Kuroe went fishing off the Echizen coast, Fukui Prefecture during bad weather and eventually drowned in the high waves. He was buried on December 7 of that year.
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 == Media ==
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 == See also ==