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 '''Arcade''' - In Arcade, the P-47 can make the most of its capability. In Arcade, engine overheating is not a problem and the Jug can get an air start. Keep WEP on automatic and climb as high as possible. Watch out for Spitfires and Bf 109s, which have the capability to climb as high and as quickly as the P-47. Once a height of around 4,000-5,000 m is reached (bomber level), go for the bombers. Approach from underneath - they will try to dive away otherwise, and your big radial engine likes to eat up enemy gunner bullets, so approach from the least covered angle. If there's an escort, kill the escort first. Stay at altitude and prey on any high-flying aircraft. Bf 109s and Spitfires are the biggest threats - it's possible in Arcade to outturn a 190 A, and most Russian fighters can't keep up at altitude. If in a head-on fight, start shooting early - if your enemy dodges, you can follow him easier. Keep your head on a swivel - if you're caught off-guard there is little you can do to maneuver out of it; your only hope is to dive away to friendly forces and hope a teammate gets him off your tail. Your high-speed handling is very good compared to other planes; do with that what you will.
-'''Realistic''' - In realistic, one has to be much more careful with how he/she uses the P-47. On takeoff, climb to as high as possible before an engine overheat. If Radiator is installed overheating will still be a problem, but not nearly as bad a one as a stock P-47 will be. If overheating does occur, pull the throttle to around 90% and do a slow climb away from the enemy. If using MEC, set propeller pitch to 85%, mixture to 90%, and radiators to 0% (increase if the engine starts to overheat) for a slight boost in performance. Once high enough, attack high-altitude marauders or use BnZ. In high-speed dives (BnZ), make sure not to make "blackout" turns, because the Jug will rip its wings, even though it has fantastic durability. Keep in mind the fact that the plane will respond more sluggishly in Realistic- one should not try to be an acrobat.
+'''Realistic''' - In realistic, one has to be much more careful with how they use the P-47. On takeoff, climb to as high as possible before an engine overheat. If Radiator is installed overheating will still be a problem, but not nearly as bad a one as a stock P-47 will be. If overheating does occur, pull the throttle to around 90% and do a slow climb away from the enemy. If using MEC, set propeller pitch to 85%, mixture to 90%, and radiators to 0% (increase if the engine starts to overheat) for a slight boost in performance. Once high enough, attack high-altitude marauders or use BnZ. In high-speed dives (BnZ), make sure not to make "blackout" turns, because the Jug will rip its wings, even though it has fantastic durability. Keep in mind the fact that the plane will respond more sluggishly in Realistic- one should not try to be an acrobat.
 '''Simulator''' - The Jug is one of the best planes available for SB. Not only is the only fighter with a full-blown "bubble canopy" to provide a great view, but it also has full high-calibre machine gun armament, which is invaluable for beginners. The machine guns are very forgiving due to easy adjustment, high rate of fire, and large ammunition capacity. Its control handling is also smooth, making it forgiving for beginners. Take advantage of the high durability, as well. Other than that the physics of the Jug are identical to RB.

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 In War Thunder, much like in real life, all Thunderbolt variants have tremendous potential as a high altitude fighter, but can also be used very effectively as ground attack aircraft, thanks to their impressive payload capacity. When fighting against enemy aircraft, boom and zoom tactics are a must, never try to dogfight with the Jug. When diving on a target, if you don't secure the kill, don't try to turn and finish him, use the speed you built in the dive and climb up, circle around and do it all again. Don't be afraid to go head-on; you have a radial engine and 8 x .50 calibre machine guns.
-Except for having a different propeller, and (as of patch 1.77) 70" HG of boost, there are very few differences between the [[P-47D-25]] and D-28. The D-25 uses a Hamilton Standard Hydromatic 13 ft. 7/8 in. diameter propeller, while the D-28 uses a Curtiss Electric "sleeved" propeller with 13 ft diameter. Despite a popular misconception that the D-28 uses a "paddle-blade" propeller whereas the D-25 doesn't, both were in fact called "paddle-blade" propellers and offered virtually identical performance. The origin of this misconception is that the early Thunderbolt variants used a smaller Curtiss Electric propeller with only 12 ft. 2 in. diameter, which proved insufficient for the R-2800 engine's power output. Larger propellers were needed to transform more engine power into thrust, giving the Thunderbolt a boost in climb rate and acceleration. These propellers were used starting from the Thunderbolt D-series manufacturing block 22 (P-47D-22) and the main distinction between these propellers was simply that aircraft manufactured on Republic's Evansville plant received the new Curtiss Electric propellers, while the Long Island manufacturing facility used Hamilton Standard propellers.
+Except for having a different propeller, and 70" HG of boost, there are very few differences between the [[P-47D-25]] and D-28. The D-25 uses a Hamilton Standard Hydromatic 13 ft. 7/8 in. diameter propeller, while the D-28 uses a Curtiss Electric "sleeved" propeller with 13 ft diameter. Despite a popular misconception that the D-28 uses a "paddle-blade" propeller whereas the D-25 doesn't, both were in fact called "paddle-blade" propellers and offered virtually identical performance. The origin of this misconception is that the early Thunderbolt variants used a smaller Curtiss Electric propeller with only 12 ft. 2 in. diameter, which proved insufficient for the R-2800 engine's power output. Larger propellers were needed to transform more engine power into thrust, giving the Thunderbolt a boost in climb rate and acceleration. These propellers were used starting from the Thunderbolt D-series manufacturing block 22 (P-47D-22) and the main distinction between these propellers was simply that aircraft manufactured on Republic's Evansville plant received the new Curtiss Electric propellers, while the Long Island manufacturing facility used Hamilton Standard propellers.
 Compared to the D-25, the D-28 variant offers the M10 Bazookas as an additional armament option, although it's better to use the HVAR rockets as it is far more destructive than the bazookas.

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-The P-47 can carry a frightfully large payload: 3 large bombs (2 x 1,000 lb, 1 x 500 lb - enough for one base) and a max of 10 HVAR rockets. Thus, a P-47 can be vital to a ground strike mission. Its speed, combined with climb rate and durability make it a great attacker on its own.
+The P-47 can carry a frightfully large payload: 3 large bombs (2 x 1,000 lb, 1 x 500 lb) and a max of 10 HVAR rockets. Thus, a P-47 can be vital to a ground strike mission. Its speed, combined with climb rate and durability make it a great attacker on its own.
 The D-28 has two different rocket types to choose from: Bazookas and High-Velocity-Attack-Rockets, the latter being simply far superior to the former.

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-The P-47 can carry a frightfully large payload: 3 large bombs (2 x 1,000 lb, 1 x 500 lb) and a max of 10 HVAR rockets. Thus, a P-47 can be vital to a ground strike mission. Its speed, combined with climb rate and durability make it a great attacker on its own.
+The P-47 can carry a frightfully large payload: 3 large bombs (2 x 1,000 lb, 1 x 500 lb - enough for one base) and a max of 10 HVAR rockets. Thus, a P-47 can be vital to a ground strike mission. Its speed, combined with climb rate and durability make it a great attacker on its own.
 The D-28 has two different rocket types to choose from: Bazookas and High-Velocity-Attack-Rockets, the latter being simply far superior to the former.

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 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 * Without load
-* 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (500 lb total)
+* 6 x M8 rockets
 * 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
-* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (2,500 lb total)
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 The P-47 can carry a frightfully large payload: 3 large bombs (2 x 1,000 lb, 1 x 500 lb) and a max of 10 HVAR rockets. Thus, a P-47 can be vital to a ground strike mission. Its speed, combined with climb rate and durability make it a great attacker on its own.

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	* Planes that the P-47 will face will be between in its BR range. Depending on what planes one equips, one can expect planes from the [[Fw 190 A-1]] to the [[Fw 190 A-4\|A-4]], and from the [[Bf 109 F-1]] to the [[Bf 109 F-4\|F-4]].		* Planes that the P-47 will face will be between in its BR range. Depending on what planes one equips, one can expect planes from the [[Fw 190 A-1]] to the [[Fw 190 A-4\|A-4]], and from the [[Bf 109 F-1]] to the [[Bf 109 F-4\|F-4]].
		+	* Bf 109 F-4 (all variants): This thing is a monster in Arcade. It can outturn you, outgun you, and if you're not careful, outclimb you. Your only advantage against it is speed: you can outrun it at altitude. If you see one of these, hard-focus them until they're no longer a threat. Sometimes it's best to either not engage at all, or if you have teammates, have them cover you. If you really want to take it out yourself, approach with a huge altitude advantage, and don't stick around to dogfight - its energy retention is better than you think, and compared to you, it turns on a dime. If you think you have good aim, a head-on attack is always an option; most 109 pilots will eagerly take up your offer, but this is by far the riskiest option and there's a good chance you won't make it out alive.

	* [[Me 264]]: This giant is one of the few bombers who get air spawns in Sim, so it usually flies higher than you think. On top of this, the Me 264 is armed with large calibre MG and cannons all over it, therefore tailing a 264 is basically suicide unless all of their gunners are knocked out. You can treat the Me 264 almost like a B-17 as they are very similar in both design and defensive capabilities. It is best to enage frontally the 264 if you can as you can easily knock out the pilots due to its glazed nose while also taking minimal damage. However the bomber lacks a ventral turret on its belly, making it easy to deal damage from below, but be wary of the downwards facing rear 20 mm cannon near the tail. The safest way to attack is from a higher altitude, dive at an oblique angle and focus fire on the wings and nose. Never engage if you have no altitude advantage.		* [[Me 264]]: This giant is one of the few bombers who get air spawns in Sim, so it usually flies higher than you think. On top of this, the Me 264 is armed with large calibre MG and cannons all over it, therefore tailing a 264 is basically suicide unless all of their gunners are knocked out. You can treat the Me 264 almost like a B-17 as they are very similar in both design and defensive capabilities. It is best to enage frontally the 264 if you can as you can easily knock out the pilots due to its glazed nose while also taking minimal damage. However the bomber lacks a ventral turret on its belly, making it easy to deal damage from below, but be wary of the downwards facing rear 20 mm cannon near the tail. The safest way to attack is from a higher altitude, dive at an oblique angle and focus fire on the wings and nose. Never engage if you have no altitude advantage.

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 =====Modes=====
-'''Arcade''' - In Arcade, the P-47 can make the most of its capability. In Arcade, engine overheating is not a problem and the Jug can get an air start. Keep WEP on automatic, and climb as high as possible. Watch out for Spitfires, Focke-Wulfs, and Bf 109s, which have the capability to climb as high and as quickly as the P-47. Once a height of around 4,000-5,000 m is reached (bomber level), go for the bombers. If rockets are equipped, expend them against the bombers. Then initiate the tactics seen in "shredding planes". You can stay at altitude and prey on any high-flying aircraft. Beware, the Fw 190 will be your competitor as well.
+'''Arcade''' - In Arcade, the P-47 can make the most of its capability. In Arcade, engine overheating is not a problem and the Jug can get an air start. Keep WEP on automatic and climb as high as possible. Watch out for Spitfires and Bf 109s, which have the capability to climb as high and as quickly as the P-47. Once a height of around 4,000-5,000 m is reached (bomber level), go for the bombers. Approach from underneath - they will try to dive away otherwise, and your big radial engine likes to eat up enemy gunner bullets, so approach from the least covered angle. If there's an escort, kill the escort first. Stay at altitude and prey on any high-flying aircraft. Bf 109s and Spitfires are the biggest threats - it's possible in Arcade to outturn a 190 A, and most Russian fighters can't keep up at altitude. If in a head-on fight, start shooting early - if your enemy dodges, you can follow him easier. Keep your head on a swivel - if you're caught off-guard there is little you can do to maneuver out of it; your only hope is to dive away to friendly forces and hope a teammate gets him off your tail. Your high-speed handling is very good compared to other planes; do with that what you will.
 '''Realistic''' - In realistic, one has to be much more careful with how he/she uses the P-47. On takeoff, climb to as high as possible before an engine overheat. If Radiator is installed overheating will still be a problem, but not nearly as bad a one as a stock P-47 will be. If overheating does occur, pull the throttle to around 90% and do a slow climb away from the enemy. If using MEC, set propeller pitch to 85%, mixture to 90%, and radiators to 0% (increase if the engine starts to overheat) for a slight boost in performance. Once high enough, attack high-altitude marauders or use BnZ. In high-speed dives (BnZ), make sure not to make "blackout" turns, because the Jug will rip its wings, even though it has fantastic durability. Keep in mind the fact that the plane will respond more sluggishly in Realistic- one should not try to be an acrobat.
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 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=p-47d-28 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 == See also ==
 ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
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 == External links ==
 ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
 * ''other literature.''

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 A total of 750 D-28 model P-47s were built. The aircraft is very similar to the [[P-47D-25]] except for one primary difference. This model introduced the Curtiss Electric 13ft paddle-blade propeller. The addition of this larger propeller helped cure the P-47's issues of low altitude climbing by converting more power from the enormous R-2800 engine into thrust.
-=== In-game description ===
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 Republic P-47D-28 Thunderbolt single-engine army heavy escort fighter/fighter-bomber
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 Aircraft of the D-28-RA batch built in Evansville were used in the Pacific quite sparingly, due to the lack of airfields with runways of appropriate length. The Thunderbolts became deeply involved in the Pacific only after the appearance of the N version, which was specially designed for the Pacific theatre of war.
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